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	<title>Comments on: Ford Falcon XR8 vs Holden Commodore SS</title>
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		<title>By: CalaisV</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30255/ford-falcon-xr8-vs-holden-commodore-ss-the-final-verdict/#comment-328465</link>
		<dc:creator>CalaisV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My pre AFM Calais V, with a dyno tune, cold air intake and extractors puts out 260rwkw (c320kw at the flywheel) and over 610NM.  With direct injected gas, I run high 12secs 400s and get 450km out of a tank of gas for around $45.  Most xr6t&#039;s are embarrassed by the Calais and I have dual zone climate control, 13 speaker BOSE system, DVD player, Sat NAV (aftermarket) and rear camera and 6 airbags including curtain (standard).  This is the first Holden I have ever owned and I am very impressed (also the quad 2.5 inch exhaust sounds incredible).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pre AFM Calais V, with a dyno tune, cold air intake and extractors puts out 260rwkw (c320kw at the flywheel) and over 610NM.  With direct injected gas, I run high 12secs 400s and get 450km out of a tank of gas for around $45.  Most xr6t&#8217;s are embarrassed by the Calais and I have dual zone climate control, 13 speaker BOSE system, DVD player, Sat NAV (aftermarket) and rear camera and 6 airbags including curtain (standard).  This is the first Holden I have ever owned and I am very impressed (also the quad 2.5 inch exhaust sounds incredible).</p>
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		<title>By: Seymour Butts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seymour Butts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever heard of the Pontiac G8???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of the Pontiac G8???</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30255/ford-falcon-xr8-vs-holden-commodore-ss-the-final-verdict/#comment-248880</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. I&#039;m a Yankee down under for a short time. I love the Holden SS I&#039;m a GM fan in the States... I have a 1969 Camaro, a 2002 Z06 Corvette, and my wife drives an SS Trailblazer. I would love to buy the Holden in a LH version and bring it back home with me if it were possible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. I&#8217;m a Yankee down under for a short time. I love the Holden SS I&#8217;m a GM fan in the States&#8230; I have a 1969 Camaro, a 2002 Z06 Corvette, and my wife drives an SS Trailblazer. I would love to buy the Holden in a LH version and bring it back home with me if it were possible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bradxr6t</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradxr6t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VE SS and the XR8 are no much for the XR6T, with just a $500 flash tuner running 10psi,I&#039;m running flat 13&#039;s. As for fuel economy though even with the ZF 6 speed I&#039;m in the mid 14&#039;s maybe it&#039;s just that I drive it hard. Anyway who cares about economy when you are smashing HSV&#039;s that cost 20k more and making 6ltr SS&#039;s look like a joke. Also I dont know why you would by an XR8 it handles worse, uses more fuel and gets creamed buy the turbo, the only thing going for it is the cool looking bonnet. So what if it sounds better give me speed over sound anyday you can cut ya centre muffler out and boost the turbo to give it a nice tune. It&#039;s also about torque, max torque in the turbo is at 2000 rpms the V8&#039;s take dbl that, the race is already won before those sort of revs are acheived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VE SS and the XR8 are no much for the XR6T, with just a $500 flash tuner running 10psi,I&#8217;m running flat 13&#8242;s. As for fuel economy though even with the ZF 6 speed I&#8217;m in the mid 14&#8242;s maybe it&#8217;s just that I drive it hard. Anyway who cares about economy when you are smashing HSV&#8217;s that cost 20k more and making 6ltr SS&#8217;s look like a joke. Also I dont know why you would by an XR8 it handles worse, uses more fuel and gets creamed buy the turbo, the only thing going for it is the cool looking bonnet. So what if it sounds better give me speed over sound anyday you can cut ya centre muffler out and boost the turbo to give it a nice tune. It&#8217;s also about torque, max torque in the turbo is at 2000 rpms the V8&#8242;s take dbl that, the race is already won before those sort of revs are acheived.</p>
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		<title>By: etry</title>
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		<dc:creator>etry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 06:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well we all know that the holden is the better car, it looks 100x better then that ugly ford and as they say i waould rather push my holden then drive a ford!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well we all know that the holden is the better car, it looks 100x better then that ugly ford and as they say i waould rather push my holden then drive a ford!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a stock VZII SS commodore, as crap of a car that really is, in fact is faster than a mildly boosted F6 typhoon that makes slightly more power than standard 270 or 310kW when you only do a full software tune up.

any commodore from VT to VZ are nothing but rubbish, but the one with a 6.0L engine, even though that engine is crap too and LS1 5.7 in 285kW and 300kW version was a better engine power vs engine size. The 6.0L with just a tune as i said above will in fact beat a mildly tuned 310kW F6 FG Falcon.

Not to mention when you install an over the radiator air intake, full exhaust, a Falcon can have 100-200Nm more or 50-100kW more when with a hair dryer bolted on it, but the V8 will always win , be more economical and more reliable.

In this case a Falcon being more reliable by default due to its advanced and bulletproof and an amazing I6 4.0L engine which will do over 1000,000km versus a crappy 5.0,5.7l strokerrrrr engines doing a max of 300,000 in their life time before needing to be replaced, the 5.7L LS1 (all variants) wont last more than 250,000-300,000km in an VT-VZ guise and a 6.0-6.2L the same story. 

Falcon wins in the end overall, but a stock VZII SS or Calais/Berlina with just a software tune will match and just about beat a mildly tuned F6 310kW. This is a fact, we need to be objective.

Darin, Lindas bf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a stock VZII SS commodore, as crap of a car that really is, in fact is faster than a mildly boosted F6 typhoon that makes slightly more power than standard 270 or 310kW when you only do a full software tune up.</p>
<p>any commodore from VT to VZ are nothing but rubbish, but the one with a 6.0L engine, even though that engine is crap too and LS1 5.7 in 285kW and 300kW version was a better engine power vs engine size. The 6.0L with just a tune as i said above will in fact beat a mildly tuned 310kW F6 FG Falcon.</p>
<p>Not to mention when you install an over the radiator air intake, full exhaust, a Falcon can have 100-200Nm more or 50-100kW more when with a hair dryer bolted on it, but the V8 will always win , be more economical and more reliable.</p>
<p>In this case a Falcon being more reliable by default due to its advanced and bulletproof and an amazing I6 4.0L engine which will do over 1000,000km versus a crappy 5.0,5.7l strokerrrrr engines doing a max of 300,000 in their life time before needing to be replaced, the 5.7L LS1 (all variants) wont last more than 250,000-300,000km in an VT-VZ guise and a 6.0-6.2L the same story. </p>
<p>Falcon wins in the end overall, but a stock VZII SS or Calais/Berlina with just a software tune will match and just about beat a mildly tuned F6 310kW. This is a fact, we need to be objective.</p>
<p>Darin, Lindas bf</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>both cars are sweet, but a 5.4L DOHC Boss290 is a much more advanced engine than a typical LS2 block with L76 aka L98 heads. The Falcon FG XR8 makes just over 230rwkw while the VE SS in both 260 and 270kW guise makes just over 210rwkw. It might have a better power to weight ration on paper but by less than 2%, yet the Falcon&#039;s power and torque consistency make it a better and more drive able package. The 6 speed ZF is much faster gearbox than an improvised 4 speed with 2 extra gears the rubbish VE SS 6 speed auto which is very slow, in fact slower than a typical BA 4 speed auto due to its inferior 25 year old mechanics. Ford all the way, it is good to be bias when truth and honesty come to the reviewers mind. After all these guys who have tested these two cars, one of them being an absolute fake xenon light projector eye lighted piece of crap ve ss commodore, these guys are both engineers and are more competent to make comments than you Zeek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>both cars are sweet, but a 5.4L DOHC Boss290 is a much more advanced engine than a typical LS2 block with L76 aka L98 heads. The Falcon FG XR8 makes just over 230rwkw while the VE SS in both 260 and 270kW guise makes just over 210rwkw. It might have a better power to weight ration on paper but by less than 2%, yet the Falcon&#8217;s power and torque consistency make it a better and more drive able package. The 6 speed ZF is much faster gearbox than an improvised 4 speed with 2 extra gears the rubbish VE SS 6 speed auto which is very slow, in fact slower than a typical BA 4 speed auto due to its inferior 25 year old mechanics. Ford all the way, it is good to be bias when truth and honesty come to the reviewers mind. After all these guys who have tested these two cars, one of them being an absolute fake xenon light projector eye lighted piece of crap ve ss commodore, these guys are both engineers and are more competent to make comments than you Zeek.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these two have always been biast when it comes to holden and ford, funny how they always tend to favor the falcon, as ford men them selves usualy do. The commodore has a better power to weight ratio and the auto is a quicker car than the manual, why? the auto shifts at every peak tourqe point in the gear range resulting in peak power through out the gears, the auto has been proven to shift up to 15 times quiker than even race driver could shift a manual gearbox. and for all the petrol heads out there AUTOS DO DO BETTER BURN OUTS! i have had racing experience with both transmissions and a former mechanic, so please don&#039;t tell me other wise. So many advantages of semi auto&#039;s have on manuals, u dont even have to change the clutch every 80&#039;000kms...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these two have always been biast when it comes to holden and ford, funny how they always tend to favor the falcon, as ford men them selves usualy do. The commodore has a better power to weight ratio and the auto is a quicker car than the manual, why? the auto shifts at every peak tourqe point in the gear range resulting in peak power through out the gears, the auto has been proven to shift up to 15 times quiker than even race driver could shift a manual gearbox. and for all the petrol heads out there AUTOS DO DO BETTER BURN OUTS! i have had racing experience with both transmissions and a former mechanic, so please don&#8217;t tell me other wise. So many advantages of semi auto&#8217;s have on manuals, u dont even have to change the clutch every 80&#8217;000kms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a holden fan and owned a holden all my life always having the V8 and V6 and 2 weeks ago i brought the 2010 XR8 and won&#039;t go back to a holden. 

The Ford has better handling, better features, better gear box, better looks etc.

I suggest for any wanting to buy a 2008-2010 Holden, test drive the Ford. You will love everything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a holden fan and owned a holden all my life always having the V8 and V6 and 2 weeks ago i brought the 2010 XR8 and won&#8217;t go back to a holden. </p>
<p>The Ford has better handling, better features, better gear box, better looks etc.</p>
<p>I suggest for any wanting to buy a 2008-2010 Holden, test drive the Ford. You will love everything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrotum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares anyways... Coyote is coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares anyways&#8230; Coyote is coming!</p>
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