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	<title>Comments on: Australian Drivers &#8211; Keep Left Please</title>
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		<title>By: KEV</title>
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		<dc:creator>KEV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbourne drivers are amongst the worst in the WORLD!!!

Every day I am almost run of the road be the terrible drivers here. Solid white lines dont seem to mean a thing!! And as to driving on the left the only time they do that is when there cutting infront of you at the last minute to get off the freeways!! I find it hilarious that the govermant spend so much money on drink driving campaigns when you can jump in the traffic jam on the monash and see plenty of drivers with a beer in there hand!!
And its the same with speeding!! the road speed is slow here in comparison with other countries and still there are plenty of accidents!

As a former HGV driver i think its about time the goverment do something to stop the bad HGV drivers here (in 4yrs i havent seen one drive on the left) in th UK HGV drivers rule the road and help keep the motorways flowing, here they seem to block the freeways!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbourne drivers are amongst the worst in the WORLD!!!</p>
<p>Every day I am almost run of the road be the terrible drivers here. Solid white lines dont seem to mean a thing!! And as to driving on the left the only time they do that is when there cutting infront of you at the last minute to get off the freeways!! I find it hilarious that the govermant spend so much money on drink driving campaigns when you can jump in the traffic jam on the monash and see plenty of drivers with a beer in there hand!!<br />
And its the same with speeding!! the road speed is slow here in comparison with other countries and still there are plenty of accidents!</p>
<p>As a former HGV driver i think its about time the goverment do something to stop the bad HGV drivers here (in 4yrs i havent seen one drive on the left) in th UK HGV drivers rule the road and help keep the motorways flowing, here they seem to block the freeways!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry mate, NSW drivers are the worst for not keeping left! It is THE largest sign on the roads and yet the most unobeyed. Why don&#039;t the cops target basic road rules that people seem to forget - oh no hang on, seems as though we aren&#039;t even teaching the new drivers how to drive as more P platers are oblivious to most sign posted rules, particularly stop signs, what are they optional to stop at now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry mate, NSW drivers are the worst for not keeping left! It is THE largest sign on the roads and yet the most unobeyed. Why don&#8217;t the cops target basic road rules that people seem to forget &#8211; oh no hang on, seems as though we aren&#8217;t even teaching the new drivers how to drive as more P platers are oblivious to most sign posted rules, particularly stop signs, what are they optional to stop at now?</p>
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		<title>By: Paulw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, HAND IN YOUR LICENCE AND GET YOUR MATES TO DO THE SAME AND THAT WILL MORE THAN LIKELY REDUCE THE ROAD TOLL FOR NEXT YEAR. A fixed speed camera does nothing unless you cant read or choose to run the gauntlet hoping there is no camera in the box. However the sleazy hiden cop with the radar gun will get you and eventualy your licence. The more often you actualy lose points (or your licence) the more chance you will slow down. This is an affective way of reducing road toll. I also agree with driver education. I further more believe that car drivers driving interstate should also have to comply with the same log book rules as bus and truck drivers, fatigue is one of the biggest killers on our roads and it amazes me continuously that a bus or truck driver can only drive 12 hours within in ant 24 hour period. And must have a rest stop for at least 30 mins every 5 hours, however a car driver can drive 72 hours straight if they choose. I once sat in a car with a guy that drove non stop from Mackay in Queensland to Melbourne, this took a terifying 27 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, HAND IN YOUR LICENCE AND GET YOUR MATES TO DO THE SAME AND THAT WILL MORE THAN LIKELY REDUCE THE ROAD TOLL FOR NEXT YEAR. A fixed speed camera does nothing unless you cant read or choose to run the gauntlet hoping there is no camera in the box. However the sleazy hiden cop with the radar gun will get you and eventualy your licence. The more often you actualy lose points (or your licence) the more chance you will slow down. This is an affective way of reducing road toll. I also agree with driver education. I further more believe that car drivers driving interstate should also have to comply with the same log book rules as bus and truck drivers, fatigue is one of the biggest killers on our roads and it amazes me continuously that a bus or truck driver can only drive 12 hours within in ant 24 hour period. And must have a rest stop for at least 30 mins every 5 hours, however a car driver can drive 72 hours straight if they choose. I once sat in a car with a guy that drove non stop from Mackay in Queensland to Melbourne, this took a terifying 27 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About bad drivers...let me say this - it depends what you define as a &quot;bad driver&quot;, and Australians have got it all wrong - it amazes me .. Australians are just so arrogant when it comes to driven...holding ourselves in such high regard.

Let me just say this - Australian drivers are one of the most selfish, spoiled, intolerant and inconsiderate in the world. I&#039;ve driven in Japan, France, Canada, as well as Italy. The Italian drivers do not follow the road rules at all, speed like crazy, and park everywhere (due to the lack of space), BUT in Italy and the other countries I mentioned - road rage is very rare, unlike in Australia where drivers so self-reightous and oblivious to the needs of others.

The Canadians, in my experience, are the best drivers.

E.g. Australian drivers on the freeway (or highways) never slow down for the cars having difficulty merging in, which is idiotic, and a case of bad driving. Sure, the road rules don&#039;t say that you HAVE to slow down for someone having trouble merging in - but it&#039;s common sense and the only proper thing to do. I *always* change to the right lane to let in a driver who is having difficulty getting in. It&#039;s also something called &quot;civilised&quot;, although I doubt Australian drivers can see through their ow arrogance to understand the term.

Another example - many drivers think its their right to beep like crazy at slow drivers. This is another example of true bad driving. If you think the driver in front is slow, deal with a few minutes lost to your life, or overtake when safe. It&#039;s not their responsibility to satisfy your desire to speed (and probably run people over). In any case, the driver is probably from interstate (looking for a street) or elderly (slower reflexes), and that&#039;s why they are driving slow.

I think *one* of the reasons why Australians are so selfish and have a total lack of consideration for other drivers is that we have too much space (in the country), and when we feel our space violated, we go nuts. Well, the space we have is a privilege - be an un-spoiled adult and deal with it. Try living in less prosperous places on the plane where it&#039;s more crowded.

Finally - racism on the road. I&#039;ve heard *a lot* about racism-related road rage from many of my friends. It&#039;s totally appalling. This is one of the worst facets of Australian roads (let alone Australian society).

Australians - take a long hard look in the mirror before holding yourselves in such high regard, and next time you&#039;re about to go psychotic with the horn at a slow driver  - THINK, and BE CIVILISED (and not only to those of your own skin colour).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About bad drivers&#8230;let me say this &#8211; it depends what you define as a &#8220;bad driver&#8221;, and Australians have got it all wrong &#8211; it amazes me .. Australians are just so arrogant when it comes to driven&#8230;holding ourselves in such high regard.</p>
<p>Let me just say this &#8211; Australian drivers are one of the most selfish, spoiled, intolerant and inconsiderate in the world. I&#8217;ve driven in Japan, France, Canada, as well as Italy. The Italian drivers do not follow the road rules at all, speed like crazy, and park everywhere (due to the lack of space), BUT in Italy and the other countries I mentioned &#8211; road rage is very rare, unlike in Australia where drivers so self-reightous and oblivious to the needs of others.</p>
<p>The Canadians, in my experience, are the best drivers.</p>
<p>E.g. Australian drivers on the freeway (or highways) never slow down for the cars having difficulty merging in, which is idiotic, and a case of bad driving. Sure, the road rules don&#8217;t say that you HAVE to slow down for someone having trouble merging in &#8211; but it&#8217;s common sense and the only proper thing to do. I *always* change to the right lane to let in a driver who is having difficulty getting in. It&#8217;s also something called &#8220;civilised&#8221;, although I doubt Australian drivers can see through their ow arrogance to understand the term.</p>
<p>Another example &#8211; many drivers think its their right to beep like crazy at slow drivers. This is another example of true bad driving. If you think the driver in front is slow, deal with a few minutes lost to your life, or overtake when safe. It&#8217;s not their responsibility to satisfy your desire to speed (and probably run people over). In any case, the driver is probably from interstate (looking for a street) or elderly (slower reflexes), and that&#8217;s why they are driving slow.</p>
<p>I think *one* of the reasons why Australians are so selfish and have a total lack of consideration for other drivers is that we have too much space (in the country), and when we feel our space violated, we go nuts. Well, the space we have is a privilege &#8211; be an un-spoiled adult and deal with it. Try living in less prosperous places on the plane where it&#8217;s more crowded.</p>
<p>Finally &#8211; racism on the road. I&#8217;ve heard *a lot* about racism-related road rage from many of my friends. It&#8217;s totally appalling. This is one of the worst facets of Australian roads (let alone Australian society).</p>
<p>Australians &#8211; take a long hard look in the mirror before holding yourselves in such high regard, and next time you&#8217;re about to go psychotic with the horn at a slow driver  &#8211; THINK, and BE CIVILISED (and not only to those of your own skin colour).</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MELBOURNE DRIVERS ARE SHIT, THE COPS ARE WORTHLESS PIECES OF CRAP WHO HAVE ROAD RULES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEN THE NORMAL ROAD RULES FOR EVERY ONE ELSE.
I&#039;VE SEEN SO MANY NEAR MISSES DUE TO CARS THAT BLOCK YOUR VIEW WHEN TURNING OUT OF YOUR GARAGE OR DRIVEWAY.
TRUCK DRIVERS ARE FAIRLY GOOD IN GEELONG CONSIDERING THAT PEOPLE IN CARS TRY AND PUT THEM TO FAME. PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY SPEEDING AND GOING PAST A COP, ALL THE COP DID WAS SPED UP AND ZOOMED PAST HIM.
LAST WEEK I SAW THIS WOG IN A SKYLINE THAT PULLED OUT OF A STREET THAT WAS LIKE 50 METERS AWAY AND WAS PULLED UP BY A COP SO FUNNY AND IT LOOKED LIKE ALL HE GOT WAS A WARNING. THE COPS IN VICTORIA ARE THE WEAKEST PEOPLE I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO ROAD RULES.
IM ONLY A PASSENGER COZ IM NOT OLD ENOUGH TOO DRIVE AND THE PEOPLE ESPICIALLY OLDIES AND SOME YOUNG ONES ARE THE WORST ON THE ROAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MELBOURNE DRIVERS ARE SHIT, THE COPS ARE WORTHLESS PIECES OF CRAP WHO HAVE ROAD RULES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEN THE NORMAL ROAD RULES FOR EVERY ONE ELSE.<br />
I&#8217;VE SEEN SO MANY NEAR MISSES DUE TO CARS THAT BLOCK YOUR VIEW WHEN TURNING OUT OF YOUR GARAGE OR DRIVEWAY.<br />
TRUCK DRIVERS ARE FAIRLY GOOD IN GEELONG CONSIDERING THAT PEOPLE IN CARS TRY AND PUT THEM TO FAME. PEOPLE ARE CONSTANTLY SPEEDING AND GOING PAST A COP, ALL THE COP DID WAS SPED UP AND ZOOMED PAST HIM.<br />
LAST WEEK I SAW THIS WOG IN A SKYLINE THAT PULLED OUT OF A STREET THAT WAS LIKE 50 METERS AWAY AND WAS PULLED UP BY A COP SO FUNNY AND IT LOOKED LIKE ALL HE GOT WAS A WARNING. THE COPS IN VICTORIA ARE THE WEAKEST PEOPLE I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO ROAD RULES.<br />
IM ONLY A PASSENGER COZ IM NOT OLD ENOUGH TOO DRIVE AND THE PEOPLE ESPICIALLY OLDIES AND SOME YOUNG ONES ARE THE WORST ON THE ROAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a former Driver trainer (Post license) and performing that particular job all over the country these are my own observations.
Queenslanders drive with horse racing blinkers on and are habitual tailgaiters with no obvious clue to the road rules and...it gets worse the further north you go (Mackay has to be the epicentre of scary drivers in this country).
They dont like to keep-left because they are still under the assumption that you have to let drivers in on freeways (not the rule at all as that is the merge rule and not the &#039;lane-end&#039; rule which applies to freeway on-ramps).  
The solution is simple Queensland. Accelerate to the speed on the on-ramp and you might be surprised at how easy it is to get onto the motorway...from there stay in that lane until you are either going to overtake or the traffic is heavy enough that the keep left rule is void. Keep left unless over taking is not keep left unless doing the speed limit or close to it.
 Big 4-wheel drives and taller vehicles should also be aware that the people behind them can&#039;t see past them (whereas these drivers are able to see over the top of other cars) so they should keep as far left of the lane they are in as well. Also....there is no fog, so turn the bloody fog lights off. They make no difference whatsoever to your vision and in actual fact do nothing but piss other drivers off (Take note 3,6,SS,XR6/8 and all Subaru owners). I could go on...but havent even got to the other states yet...thought I would start with the worst first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a former Driver trainer (Post license) and performing that particular job all over the country these are my own observations.<br />
Queenslanders drive with horse racing blinkers on and are habitual tailgaiters with no obvious clue to the road rules and&#8230;it gets worse the further north you go (Mackay has to be the epicentre of scary drivers in this country).<br />
They dont like to keep-left because they are still under the assumption that you have to let drivers in on freeways (not the rule at all as that is the merge rule and not the &#8216;lane-end&#8217; rule which applies to freeway on-ramps).<br />
The solution is simple Queensland. Accelerate to the speed on the on-ramp and you might be surprised at how easy it is to get onto the motorway&#8230;from there stay in that lane until you are either going to overtake or the traffic is heavy enough that the keep left rule is void. Keep left unless over taking is not keep left unless doing the speed limit or close to it.<br />
 Big 4-wheel drives and taller vehicles should also be aware that the people behind them can&#8217;t see past them (whereas these drivers are able to see over the top of other cars) so they should keep as far left of the lane they are in as well. Also&#8230;.there is no fog, so turn the bloody fog lights off. They make no difference whatsoever to your vision and in actual fact do nothing but piss other drivers off (Take note 3,6,SS,XR6/8 and all Subaru owners). I could go on&#8230;but havent even got to the other states yet&#8230;thought I would start with the worst first!</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Left Lane or Right Lane:
I would have to agree that the left lane should be the slower one, no question about that. That would particularly apply in the freeway situation, eventhough you&#039;re traveling at the speed limit, try to keep on the left lane unless overtaking. I don&#039;t worry about people giving me the finger if i&#039;m traveling at the right lane and trying to find a spot to move left, while he&#039;s so impatient to put his foot down and see how long he can go before he crashes....

However, I believe that you should be more understanding when traveling at a road that permits right turns. Some driver might stay on the right lane to turn right, he might be driving slower because he&#039;s having difficulties in finding the street name, etc....
I come to understand this as I travel on Albany Hwy every day in Perth.

For slow drivers I think I don&#039;t mind them too much as long as they don&#039;t break the rule. I understand that they are slower to react (especially for the ederly) and therefore need to drive slower. BUT PLEASE KEEP LEFT UNLESS YOU&#039;RE TURNING RIGHT!!!! So annoying, when I see a slow car in front on the right lane, i keep thinking it&#039;s alright, he/she is going to turn right at the traffic light, but no, he&#039;s still going straight after the traffic light....

And another thing, it pisses me off when I see a truck on the right lane at the traffic lights while there is a normal car on the left....why?? you think you can drag the sedan and beat it???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left Lane or Right Lane:<br />
I would have to agree that the left lane should be the slower one, no question about that. That would particularly apply in the freeway situation, eventhough you&#8217;re traveling at the speed limit, try to keep on the left lane unless overtaking. I don&#8217;t worry about people giving me the finger if i&#8217;m traveling at the right lane and trying to find a spot to move left, while he&#8217;s so impatient to put his foot down and see how long he can go before he crashes&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, I believe that you should be more understanding when traveling at a road that permits right turns. Some driver might stay on the right lane to turn right, he might be driving slower because he&#8217;s having difficulties in finding the street name, etc&#8230;.<br />
I come to understand this as I travel on Albany Hwy every day in Perth.</p>
<p>For slow drivers I think I don&#8217;t mind them too much as long as they don&#8217;t break the rule. I understand that they are slower to react (especially for the ederly) and therefore need to drive slower. BUT PLEASE KEEP LEFT UNLESS YOU&#8217;RE TURNING RIGHT!!!! So annoying, when I see a slow car in front on the right lane, i keep thinking it&#8217;s alright, he/she is going to turn right at the traffic light, but no, he&#8217;s still going straight after the traffic light&#8230;.</p>
<p>And another thing, it pisses me off when I see a truck on the right lane at the traffic lights while there is a normal car on the left&#8230;.why?? you think you can drag the sedan and beat it???</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, who made you the enforcer of the law. You don&#039;t see people pushing you out of the right lane to &quot;enforce the law&quot;. So why are you picking one rule to follow and forcing others to, while at the same time your breaking another law (keep left). Sounds hypocritical to me.
 The AUSTRALIAN road rules not only state to keep left it also states that it is illegal to drive in a manner that stops someone from overtaking you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, who made you the enforcer of the law. You don&#8217;t see people pushing you out of the right lane to &#8220;enforce the law&#8221;. So why are you picking one rule to follow and forcing others to, while at the same time your breaking another law (keep left). Sounds hypocritical to me.<br />
 The AUSTRALIAN road rules not only state to keep left it also states that it is illegal to drive in a manner that stops someone from overtaking you.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep left in Australia is a waste of time. We are all restricted to the same speed limit? So whats the issue. Most of our roads are not designed to encourage you to keep left (thats any road from which you can turn right from a right hand lane) in fact you could argue that its plain dangerous to encourage people to travel &quot;faster&quot; in the right lanes of these roads. Keeping left (right) in Europe works really well (yes I lived there and drove there for many years) for a number of reasons . 3+ lane freeways. Trucks restricted to the left lane (middle lane for passing), trucks restricted to a SIGNIFICANTLY different speed limit to cars, drivers much more disciplined than Australians, a somewhat more laissez faire attitude to max posted speed limit, meaning you can pull out and pass a slower car and not worry about getting pinged for speeding.   I really don&#039;t get the problem in Aus if your traveling on the speed limit in whichever lane who is going to pass you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep left in Australia is a waste of time. We are all restricted to the same speed limit? So whats the issue. Most of our roads are not designed to encourage you to keep left (thats any road from which you can turn right from a right hand lane) in fact you could argue that its plain dangerous to encourage people to travel &#8220;faster&#8221; in the right lanes of these roads. Keeping left (right) in Europe works really well (yes I lived there and drove there for many years) for a number of reasons . 3+ lane freeways. Trucks restricted to the left lane (middle lane for passing), trucks restricted to a SIGNIFICANTLY different speed limit to cars, drivers much more disciplined than Australians, a somewhat more laissez faire attitude to max posted speed limit, meaning you can pull out and pass a slower car and not worry about getting pinged for speeding.   I really don&#8217;t get the problem in Aus if your traveling on the speed limit in whichever lane who is going to pass you?</p>
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		<title>By: Keepleft, Mot Adv-NSW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keepleft, Mot Adv-NSW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One needn&#039;t have motorway traffic lanes dedicated to certain speeds, all that is required is adherence to lane discipline, &#039;keep left-not middle when on lengths bearing more three or more traffic lanes&#039;.

Another thread here somewhere that also covers this topic, but again, only NSW teaches via its driver handbook (RUH) its pupils how to correctly use traffic lanes on motorway lenghts bearing more than two lanes.

The ongoing development of the National Driver Licensing Scheme, which you can recognise as the adoption of uniform license categories and features (L, P1, P2 - Log books etc) has its emphasis on the &#039;defensive driving&#039; components, this is appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One needn&#8217;t have motorway traffic lanes dedicated to certain speeds, all that is required is adherence to lane discipline, &#8216;keep left-not middle when on lengths bearing more three or more traffic lanes&#8217;.</p>
<p>Another thread here somewhere that also covers this topic, but again, only NSW teaches via its driver handbook (RUH) its pupils how to correctly use traffic lanes on motorway lenghts bearing more than two lanes.</p>
<p>The ongoing development of the National Driver Licensing Scheme, which you can recognise as the adoption of uniform license categories and features (L, P1, P2 &#8211; Log books etc) has its emphasis on the &#8216;defensive driving&#8217; components, this is appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: ShaunL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShaunL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for you folks back home, I learnt on the weekend that trucks are not allowed on the road on weekends and on the autobahn/highway all trucks are to stay in the left lanes.

No that is what we should do in Australia.  The Germans call trucks hogging both lanes on the highway/road &quot;elephant racing&quot;.  How true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for you folks back home, I learnt on the weekend that trucks are not allowed on the road on weekends and on the autobahn/highway all trucks are to stay in the left lanes.</p>
<p>No that is what we should do in Australia.  The Germans call trucks hogging both lanes on the highway/road &#8220;elephant racing&#8221;.  How true.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Eggs &#38; Spam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Eggs &#38; Spam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think it&#039;s time we fire evry politicion over 50 and bring young fresh and uncorrupted minds (especially the ones that plan the construction of the roads and the rules) can I get an amen brothers?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think it&#8217;s time we fire evry politicion over 50 and bring young fresh and uncorrupted minds (especially the ones that plan the construction of the roads and the rules) can I get an amen brothers?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: macca</title>
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		<dc:creator>macca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geelong drivers are the same as drivers everywhere, good and bad. As soon as people start understanding that it&#039;s not their right to drive it&#039;s a privilege and realise that they don&#039;t own the patch of road their car is driving on and learn to share(remember sharing is that thing your parents and teachers taught you when you were young)the easier driving in congested areas willo be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geelong drivers are the same as drivers everywhere, good and bad. As soon as people start understanding that it&#8217;s not their right to drive it&#8217;s a privilege and realise that they don&#8217;t own the patch of road their car is driving on and learn to share(remember sharing is that thing your parents and teachers taught you when you were young)the easier driving in congested areas willo be.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, Im sick of the way these governments treat road users, considering NSW previous premier didnt have a driver&#039;s license. To me no license means no say.

Anyways how do I get into one of these company&#039;s to change everything. Noone else will do it so I&#039;m going to have to.

If I was in charge,

Speed Cameras would be moved from safe straight roads to actual black spots (mainly dangerous corners) and be sign posted so people slow down for those black spots.

Speed Limits would be increased on major freeways and multi lane Highways eg. Hume Freeway should be at least 130km/h.

Australian Standards would be enforced on all roads so the RTA doesn&#039;t just reduce speed limits on badly damaged roads instead of fixing them (Bucketts Way in NSW went from 100km/h to 90km/h because road was stuffed)

Aim to have a major Autobarn style road going from Melbourne to Brisbane with 150+kmh lane with strict enforcment for people going too slow in those lanes.

Change licensing so every driver must attend an advanced driving course, not just learn how to reverse park.

Must speak english to be able to drive (I&#039;m not racist but all road signs are in english so if you can&#039;t read roadsigns then your not a safe driver)

Scrap current P-plate car list and design one that allows them to drive a v8 with less power than current family 6-cylinder.

Ummm there is more but elect me to find out :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Im sick of the way these governments treat road users, considering NSW previous premier didnt have a driver&#8217;s license. To me no license means no say.</p>
<p>Anyways how do I get into one of these company&#8217;s to change everything. Noone else will do it so I&#8217;m going to have to.</p>
<p>If I was in charge,</p>
<p>Speed Cameras would be moved from safe straight roads to actual black spots (mainly dangerous corners) and be sign posted so people slow down for those black spots.</p>
<p>Speed Limits would be increased on major freeways and multi lane Highways eg. Hume Freeway should be at least 130km/h.</p>
<p>Australian Standards would be enforced on all roads so the RTA doesn&#8217;t just reduce speed limits on badly damaged roads instead of fixing them (Bucketts Way in NSW went from 100km/h to 90km/h because road was stuffed)</p>
<p>Aim to have a major Autobarn style road going from Melbourne to Brisbane with 150+kmh lane with strict enforcment for people going too slow in those lanes.</p>
<p>Change licensing so every driver must attend an advanced driving course, not just learn how to reverse park.</p>
<p>Must speak english to be able to drive (I&#8217;m not racist but all road signs are in english so if you can&#8217;t read roadsigns then your not a safe driver)</p>
<p>Scrap current P-plate car list and design one that allows them to drive a v8 with less power than current family 6-cylinder.</p>
<p>Ummm there is more but elect me to find out :P</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 21:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing erks me more than the whole &#039; I&#039;ll sit in the right lane because I&#039;m going as fast as anyone should go. 
 It&#039;s usually accompanied by the mindset that one second distance is plenty distance&#039;. 
 There are two posible scenerios (sp?) for our highways. The First which we see everyday in Australia is people sitting in the right lane. The result is (as there will always be a natural variation in driving speeds)cars all being grouped together behind the right hand block. Drivers getting fustrated and driving to close to each other, WHICH IS ANYTHING UNDER TWO SECONDS DISTANCE. Many of these drivers fustrated looking to weave through either on the left or right. Quite often there will be a large part of the highway now free of cars ahead of this ever growing clot. (Forming into a traffic jam given enough time).
      The second is everyone keeping left. The result, Cars spreading out over the highway in accordance with peoples natural speed variation. Room to change lane as needed. Always knowing exactly what every other car is going to do - Overtake on the right, return to the left. Speed is not the enemy people. Speed, plus driving to close, not indicating early (really what is the piont of indicating as you change lanes) and not sticking to the correct lane all put together kills. Don&#039;t believe me. Watch any european motorway for five minutes and compare it to our roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing erks me more than the whole &#8216; I&#8217;ll sit in the right lane because I&#8217;m going as fast as anyone should go.<br />
 It&#8217;s usually accompanied by the mindset that one second distance is plenty distance&#8217;.<br />
 There are two posible scenerios (sp?) for our highways. The First which we see everyday in Australia is people sitting in the right lane. The result is (as there will always be a natural variation in driving speeds)cars all being grouped together behind the right hand block. Drivers getting fustrated and driving to close to each other, WHICH IS ANYTHING UNDER TWO SECONDS DISTANCE. Many of these drivers fustrated looking to weave through either on the left or right. Quite often there will be a large part of the highway now free of cars ahead of this ever growing clot. (Forming into a traffic jam given enough time).<br />
      The second is everyone keeping left. The result, Cars spreading out over the highway in accordance with peoples natural speed variation. Room to change lane as needed. Always knowing exactly what every other car is going to do &#8211; Overtake on the right, return to the left. Speed is not the enemy people. Speed, plus driving to close, not indicating early (really what is the piont of indicating as you change lanes) and not sticking to the correct lane all put together kills. Don&#8217;t believe me. Watch any european motorway for five minutes and compare it to our roads.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jared
lexus is japanese</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jared<br />
lexus is japanese</p>
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		<title>By: jared hadfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>jared hadfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amen...the only good american cars made today are lexus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amen&#8230;the only good american cars made today are lexus</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i bought a ford in 1990 anf its the worst piece of shit i ever owned. theres no recourse and no hopeto ever get the shity junk heap to ever run. dont buy american they make trash and shit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i bought a ford in 1990 anf its the worst piece of shit i ever owned. theres no recourse and no hopeto ever get the shity junk heap to ever run. dont buy american they make trash and shit</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found this on the Street Fords web site listed today .

The plan to infect NSW with undercover speed vans has been killed off by opposing pressure from the State Government and the Opposition.

The NSW Roads and Traffic Authority have been pushing for plans to use covert speed surveillance vans as a way to reduce the amount of speeding motorists on the road, a theory which the RTA believes will help save lives. While most motorists believe that automated speeding enforcement is not a step in the right direction, is seems finally the government is catching on to the beat of the opposing motorists drum. 

Roads Minister Eric Roozendaal  has today said that be prefers the use of high visibility measures to slow speeding drivers down, rather than to catch them in the act and then having them realise they were speeding a few weeks down the track.

The Opposition were quick to slam the idea by claiming more highway patrol officers were the answer, with these sneaky revenue tactics being a profitable band-aid fix.

Despite all the negative pressure from the RTA’s proposed sneak tactics, the Pedestrian Council of Australia has backed the idea stating that the idea was revenue raising, but life-saving.  

With speed deterrent tactics copping massive pressure everyday of the week by parties claiming all the methods chosen are based upon revenue raising, it seems a more logical approach would be to eliminate the concept of a fine all together and  concentrate more on the demerit form of punishment system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this on the Street Fords web site listed today .</p>
<p>The plan to infect NSW with undercover speed vans has been killed off by opposing pressure from the State Government and the Opposition.</p>
<p>The NSW Roads and Traffic Authority have been pushing for plans to use covert speed surveillance vans as a way to reduce the amount of speeding motorists on the road, a theory which the RTA believes will help save lives. While most motorists believe that automated speeding enforcement is not a step in the right direction, is seems finally the government is catching on to the beat of the opposing motorists drum. </p>
<p>Roads Minister Eric Roozendaal  has today said that be prefers the use of high visibility measures to slow speeding drivers down, rather than to catch them in the act and then having them realise they were speeding a few weeks down the track.</p>
<p>The Opposition were quick to slam the idea by claiming more highway patrol officers were the answer, with these sneaky revenue tactics being a profitable band-aid fix.</p>
<p>Despite all the negative pressure from the RTA’s proposed sneak tactics, the Pedestrian Council of Australia has backed the idea stating that the idea was revenue raising, but life-saving.  </p>
<p>With speed deterrent tactics copping massive pressure everyday of the week by parties claiming all the methods chosen are based upon revenue raising, it seems a more logical approach would be to eliminate the concept of a fine all together and  concentrate more on the demerit form of punishment system.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam: The government has set up a strawman argument. They&#039;ve stated that they&#039;d like to reduce the death toll on roads (a reasonable goal) and speed cameras are needed to accomplish this (not true).

If the &#039;speed kills&#039; statement from the government was true, half the population of Germany would be dead. The truth is that less than 2% of road fatalities are caused by driving above the set limit (this figure is from the government&#039;s own &#039;Queensland Government Parliamentary Travelsafe Committee Study #15&#039;). Unsafe driving, badly maintained roads and cars without safety features (such as ABS) kill. If the government wanted to save lives, they would address these with 1) mandatory driver training courses, 2) better maintained roads (there are potholes on Parramatta Road the size of a bowling ball), and 3) reduced stamp duty (or abolish stamp duty) on cars with safety features (the entry-level Barina in Australia does not contain ABS because of price).

Lobby groups like the RACQ tow the government line and brand anybody who disagree as &#039;hoons&#039;. 

Saying this, the attitude of the government on road safety is entirely consistent with their attitude on other matters: they present the average punter with a false dichotomy (increased road tolls or speed cameras?) and then take the more politically feasible option (reduced stamp duty for 7.0L/100km hybrids, extra stamp duty for 6.0L/100km diesels).

My opinion of Queensland Transport is so low that they would have to work extremely hard to disappoint me further. QT is filled with complacent bureaucrats who cause the death of drivers through inaction, misuse of facts and lack of leadership.

If I ever unleash a genie from a bottle, my second and third wish will be to disband Queensland Transport and the NSW RTA.

Gosh, I should write for CarAdvice, i&#039;m certainly angry enough :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam: The government has set up a strawman argument. They&#8217;ve stated that they&#8217;d like to reduce the death toll on roads (a reasonable goal) and speed cameras are needed to accomplish this (not true).</p>
<p>If the &#8217;speed kills&#8217; statement from the government was true, half the population of Germany would be dead. The truth is that less than 2% of road fatalities are caused by driving above the set limit (this figure is from the government&#8217;s own &#8216;Queensland Government Parliamentary Travelsafe Committee Study #15&#8242;). Unsafe driving, badly maintained roads and cars without safety features (such as ABS) kill. If the government wanted to save lives, they would address these with 1) mandatory driver training courses, 2) better maintained roads (there are potholes on Parramatta Road the size of a bowling ball), and 3) reduced stamp duty (or abolish stamp duty) on cars with safety features (the entry-level Barina in Australia does not contain ABS because of price).</p>
<p>Lobby groups like the RACQ tow the government line and brand anybody who disagree as &#8216;hoons&#8217;. </p>
<p>Saying this, the attitude of the government on road safety is entirely consistent with their attitude on other matters: they present the average punter with a false dichotomy (increased road tolls or speed cameras?) and then take the more politically feasible option (reduced stamp duty for 7.0L/100km hybrids, extra stamp duty for 6.0L/100km diesels).</p>
<p>My opinion of Queensland Transport is so low that they would have to work extremely hard to disappoint me further. QT is filled with complacent bureaucrats who cause the death of drivers through inaction, misuse of facts and lack of leadership.</p>
<p>If I ever unleash a genie from a bottle, my second and third wish will be to disband Queensland Transport and the NSW RTA.</p>
<p>Gosh, I should write for CarAdvice, i&#8217;m certainly angry enough :)</p>
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