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	<title>Comments on: New QLD Driver License Laws &#8211; Our Opinion</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-101977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought, perhaps its because of the huge volume of new drivers and the fact that there is no way the current tracks and facilities would cater for all these people, add this to the fact that these facilities cost millions of dollars to make and you might start to see why this decision was made. On any one day you could only train a handfull of newbies on a track as apposed to perhaps thousands on the road whilst providing each one of those driving trainers a job, in what looks like recession time that might be a great idea.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I think advanced driver training is a great thing but I think the logistics of this have been overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought, perhaps its because of the huge volume of new drivers and the fact that there is no way the current tracks and facilities would cater for all these people, add this to the fact that these facilities cost millions of dollars to make and you might start to see why this decision was made. On any one day you could only train a handfull of newbies on a track as apposed to perhaps thousands on the road whilst providing each one of those driving trainers a job, in what looks like recession time that might be a great idea.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I think advanced driver training is a great thing but I think the logistics of this have been overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-72963</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody know if V8 turbo diesels are exempt from the new laws? The government is trying to stop japanese imports (we all know its true) that have plenty of power, are cheap and are in abundance. But they are missing the point completely, stopping P platers from driving the family 4wd or sedan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know if V8 turbo diesels are exempt from the new laws? The government is trying to stop japanese imports (we all know its true) that have plenty of power, are cheap and are in abundance. But they are missing the point completely, stopping P platers from driving the family 4wd or sedan.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone ever seen people who could be parents as really bad drivers. Doing stuff like taking 10 minutes to get out of parks and doing 80 in a 100 zone, not indicating on roundabouts and not being capable to pass a truck doing 80 in a 100 zone. These incopetent people are teching their kid how to drive! Im not saying that all parents are bad drivers, but some are and they teach their bad habits to kids who dont know any better! ? one more thing, why cant anyone drive when it rains, everyone crashes, yer sure roads are a bit more slipperery but it doesnt mean you can do 60 the highway! thats how you casue accidents, people doing 80 or faster have to quickly change lanes and brake which causes chaos! I hate you people! Also, if you lowered the age to get your learners sya to 15. Kids are not so confident when they are 15 yet they have all the confidence in the world at 17+. If they learn to drive at 15, get their p&#039;s at 15 6 months or 16, wotever, they would have far mor eexperience for when their confidence kicks in. i know this worked for me, got my learners in nz at 15, got p&#039;s at 15 and half, moved to aussie and its sweet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever seen people who could be parents as really bad drivers. Doing stuff like taking 10 minutes to get out of parks and doing 80 in a 100 zone, not indicating on roundabouts and not being capable to pass a truck doing 80 in a 100 zone. These incopetent people are teching their kid how to drive! Im not saying that all parents are bad drivers, but some are and they teach their bad habits to kids who dont know any better! ? one more thing, why cant anyone drive when it rains, everyone crashes, yer sure roads are a bit more slipperery but it doesnt mean you can do 60 the highway! thats how you casue accidents, people doing 80 or faster have to quickly change lanes and brake which causes chaos! I hate you people! Also, if you lowered the age to get your learners sya to 15. Kids are not so confident when they are 15 yet they have all the confidence in the world at 17+. If they learn to drive at 15, get their p&#8217;s at 15 6 months or 16, wotever, they would have far mor eexperience for when their confidence kicks in. i know this worked for me, got my learners in nz at 15, got p&#8217;s at 15 and half, moved to aussie and its sweet!</p>
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		<title>By: Megan Emily Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan Emily Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholehartedly to this article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholehartedly to this article!</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did defensive driving and advanced driver training when I gained my licence because they reduced the amount of time I spend on a P plate in New Zealand.
I also used the skills I obtained there to drive much faster than I should have, regularly getting up to 180kmph on public roads.
Luckily I have grown out of it, and it was a long time since I last exceeded the speed limit. Now those defensive skills have saved my skin a few times, and I&#039;m lucky enough to have had no crashes and no speeding tickets ever.

Also I know that RACQ does send many of its staff to the Mt Cotton driver training facility. You can check with either company if you want validation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did defensive driving and advanced driver training when I gained my licence because they reduced the amount of time I spend on a P plate in New Zealand.<br />
I also used the skills I obtained there to drive much faster than I should have, regularly getting up to 180kmph on public roads.<br />
Luckily I have grown out of it, and it was a long time since I last exceeded the speed limit. Now those defensive skills have saved my skin a few times, and I&#8217;m lucky enough to have had no crashes and no speeding tickets ever.</p>
<p>Also I know that RACQ does send many of its staff to the Mt Cotton driver training facility. You can check with either company if you want validation.</p>
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		<title>By: Camela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 06:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No the turbo and supercharged laws do you apply to turbo diesels.</description>
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		<title>By: damien harris</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-18247</link>
		<dc:creator>damien harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with the new laws how it affects turbocharged or supercharged cars........ is it also affecting turbo diesel vehicles becuase i was driving around in my little hyundai excel and i was driving a turbo diesel triton and my car hase a lot more acceleration and higher speed...... i  am just wonderin if the new laws affect turbo diesel because the performance in them are nothing compared to a four cylindar car like mine??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with the new laws how it affects turbocharged or supercharged cars&#8230;&#8230;.. is it also affecting turbo diesel vehicles becuase i was driving around in my little hyundai excel and i was driving a turbo diesel triton and my car hase a lot more acceleration and higher speed&#8230;&#8230; i  am just wonderin if the new laws affect turbo diesel because the performance in them are nothing compared to a four cylindar car like mine??</p>
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		<title>By: tara</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-18021</link>
		<dc:creator>tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 July.</p>
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		<title>By: ME</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-17570</link>
		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are these laws coming into place.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are these laws coming into place.?</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And does anyone know where the list of &#039;banned&#039; cars are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And does anyone know where the list of &#8216;banned&#8217; cars are.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-17472</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I had the same idea. Im glad some one backs me up on it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I had the same idea. Im glad some one backs me up on it..</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article... and Ive also been telling people in relation to this argument a driver training course is the way. For mine increasing Ls isnt going to do much, driving with a parent next to you and solo are COMPLETELY different! Its like when you have a cop behind you, you dont do anything stupid do you! Its authority. The way I see it, for some having an emergency situation is inevitable, they will be stupid and push their car to far and potentially lose control... doing an extra 50 hours of driving like a granny isnt going to help you in this situation where you need to know for RWD cars to use opposite lock or for cars without ABS to pump the brakes etc. For these individuals (who would be the majority who are involved in fatal crashes), a driver training course can very well save their life. Even everyone else can benefit because we all know most younger drivers also have older cars which dont have even basic features like ABS, in the wet incidents which wouldnt occur with ABS, EBD and BA etc without these easily occur... a course will teach drivers to pump their brakes in a non-ABS vehicle and how to be more aware of the cars dynamics, such as when braking around a corner the tendency for them to brake lift and oversteer etc etc etc. All situations that either ABS or EBD would taken care of... younger drivers dont have the luxuries, so they need to be taught what to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article&#8230; and Ive also been telling people in relation to this argument a driver training course is the way. For mine increasing Ls isnt going to do much, driving with a parent next to you and solo are COMPLETELY different! Its like when you have a cop behind you, you dont do anything stupid do you! Its authority. The way I see it, for some having an emergency situation is inevitable, they will be stupid and push their car to far and potentially lose control&#8230; doing an extra 50 hours of driving like a granny isnt going to help you in this situation where you need to know for RWD cars to use opposite lock or for cars without ABS to pump the brakes etc. For these individuals (who would be the majority who are involved in fatal crashes), a driver training course can very well save their life. Even everyone else can benefit because we all know most younger drivers also have older cars which dont have even basic features like ABS, in the wet incidents which wouldnt occur with ABS, EBD and BA etc without these easily occur&#8230; a course will teach drivers to pump their brakes in a non-ABS vehicle and how to be more aware of the cars dynamics, such as when braking around a corner the tendency for them to brake lift and oversteer etc etc etc. All situations that either ABS or EBD would taken care of&#8230; younger drivers dont have the luxuries, so they need to be taught what to do!</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liquor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liquor!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/3020/new-qld-driver-license-laws-our-opinion/comment-page-1/#comment-16455</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Alborz. As the mother of 3...(2 licensed and 1 learning) I can see the Govt is trying to ensure new drivers get the maximum amount of experience before driving solo...BUT...certainly dont agree with them discriminating against parents who choose to teach their children to drive (an hour is an hour..whether its with an instructor or parent)and not taking defensive driving courses into account, as part of the total logbook hours is just plain ridiculous. Driver training should be mandatory. The experience gained from these courses in panic/emergency situations are what could save lives in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Alborz. As the mother of 3&#8230;(2 licensed and 1 learning) I can see the Govt is trying to ensure new drivers get the maximum amount of experience before driving solo&#8230;BUT&#8230;certainly dont agree with them discriminating against parents who choose to teach their children to drive (an hour is an hour..whether its with an instructor or parent)and not taking defensive driving courses into account, as part of the total logbook hours is just plain ridiculous. Driver training should be mandatory. The experience gained from these courses in panic/emergency situations are what could save lives in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with politics is that politicians like to appear as doing something. They are not worried about whether the actions are beneficial. 

It&#039;s time for a motoring group with credibility (perhaps BMW Driver Training) to call Mrs McIntyre and Gary Fites on their lies. At best, those two are towing the government party line which makes me ask, why? Why on earth would they advocate drivers not getting the training they need to handle emergency situations?

Regardless, I belive it&#039;s time for me to find another insurer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with politics is that politicians like to appear as doing something. They are not worried about whether the actions are beneficial. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for a motoring group with credibility (perhaps BMW Driver Training) to call Mrs McIntyre and Gary Fites on their lies. At best, those two are towing the government party line which makes me ask, why? Why on earth would they advocate drivers not getting the training they need to handle emergency situations?</p>
<p>Regardless, I belive it&#8217;s time for me to find another insurer.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but that would mean they will  back track, and admit wrong. They might even have a law suit on their hands from those who have had an accident after taking the advice of QLD transport and not doing a driver training (you never know)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but that would mean they will  back track, and admit wrong. They might even have a law suit on their hands from those who have had an accident after taking the advice of QLD transport and not doing a driver training (you never know)</p>
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		<title>By: Aston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alborz, even if the pollies did admit driver training was beneficial, they don&#039;t have to fund it. Just have the individual pay, the same as you would if you want a licence, you have to pay for it and it is compulsory to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alborz, even if the pollies did admit driver training was beneficial, they don&#8217;t have to fund it. Just have the individual pay, the same as you would if you want a licence, you have to pay for it and it is compulsory to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aston, the problem is, if they admit that driver training is beneficial then they must also fund the courses - hence denial is the ideal way. Remember, first lesson in politics, when in doubt, deny everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aston, the problem is, if they admit that driver training is beneficial then they must also fund the courses &#8211; hence denial is the ideal way. Remember, first lesson in politics, when in doubt, deny everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Aston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, how do these clowns like Mrs McIntyre and Gary Fites get these positions. They should make advanced driver training mandatory. I know when my friends and I went to Mt Cotton driver training centre, we became better more responsible drivers. Afterall, this is where police and firies train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, how do these clowns like Mrs McIntyre and Gary Fites get these positions. They should make advanced driver training mandatory. I know when my friends and I went to Mt Cotton driver training centre, we became better more responsible drivers. Afterall, this is where police and firies train.</p>
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		<title>By: troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many of our BEST drivers, Professional drivers, ( race cars etc ) gained experience as kids in GO karts, etc????


How many were great drivers before they got their licences???


Im thinking.......

ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of our BEST drivers, Professional drivers, ( race cars etc ) gained experience as kids in GO karts, etc????</p>
<p>How many were great drivers before they got their licences???</p>
<p>Im thinking&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!</p>
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