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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130890</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 08:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the Photo... what is it exactly that we are meant to STOP the POLICE from doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the Photo&#8230; what is it exactly that we are meant to STOP the POLICE from doing?</p>
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		<title>By: midi</title>
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		<dc:creator>midi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 00:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mum was driving hahhaa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mum was driving hahhaa</p>
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		<title>By: flow</title>
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		<dc:creator>flow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 14:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FFS... I wondered what that was. 

I live right near where it was set up. It was on Neapan Hwy in Cheltenham facing south just past the ped lights, past Southland. It looked just like a normal cop van without decals.

Okay - It&#039;s a VW wagon with 2 guys in it. No gear out the front like a normal speed camera. Unlike a speed cam van, it was parked at a slight angle. This I now assume was to get a better show of the plates. Or perhaps they couldn&#039;t park it right. Unsure the IT crap in it, but the operator had a monitor infront of him which he was watching. Perhaps just for calibrating. Unsure.

There was an unmarked 6cyl cop car (again dark blue) idling in the slip lane too. Open drivers side window - waiting for a chase signal? dunno.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFS&#8230; I wondered what that was. </p>
<p>I live right near where it was set up. It was on Neapan Hwy in Cheltenham facing south just past the ped lights, past Southland. It looked just like a normal cop van without decals.</p>
<p>Okay &#8211; It&#8217;s a VW wagon with 2 guys in it. No gear out the front like a normal speed camera. Unlike a speed cam van, it was parked at a slight angle. This I now assume was to get a better show of the plates. Or perhaps they couldn&#8217;t park it right. Unsure the IT crap in it, but the operator had a monitor infront of him which he was watching. Perhaps just for calibrating. Unsure.</p>
<p>There was an unmarked 6cyl cop car (again dark blue) idling in the slip lane too. Open drivers side window &#8211; waiting for a chase signal? dunno.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130727</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frenchie its number plate recognition not photography. The registration numbers are automatically recorded and match to records.
Many traffic cops in the UK have cameras on the rear of their roofs with an interior display that immediately lets then know when a suspect car is matched. Love it, lets get the crooks and nonpayers off the road. It&#039;s a fair system that does not allow interpretation of a cop, blck and white law really. Roll it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frenchie its number plate recognition not photography. The registration numbers are automatically recorded and match to records.<br />
Many traffic cops in the UK have cameras on the rear of their roofs with an interior display that immediately lets then know when a suspect car is matched. Love it, lets get the crooks and nonpayers off the road. It&#8217;s a fair system that does not allow interpretation of a cop, blck and white law really. Roll it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130705</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify the &quot;other&quot; 3 car accident was on the way home tonight. that&#039;s 2 x 3 car tail enders in one afternoon within a couple of km&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify the &#8220;other&#8221; 3 car accident was on the way home tonight. that&#8217;s 2 x 3 car tail enders in one afternoon within a couple of km&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130704</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were out in force in Broadmeadows today and boy did they have a cache of cars parked on the side of the road. A god 10 cars parked. Quite a queue of traffic.

On the way back some muppet ran up the back of another car waiting in traffic, forcing it into a third, 100m short of the 3 police cars. Incredible. Victorians and traffic always means accidents. Saw another 3 car accident (the usual nose to tail to nose) in traffic again.

If we all drove Volvos with that crash avoidance City Safety thingy Victorian Police would have nothing to do anymore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were out in force in Broadmeadows today and boy did they have a cache of cars parked on the side of the road. A god 10 cars parked. Quite a queue of traffic.</p>
<p>On the way back some muppet ran up the back of another car waiting in traffic, forcing it into a third, 100m short of the 3 police cars. Incredible. Victorians and traffic always means accidents. Saw another 3 car accident (the usual nose to tail to nose) in traffic again.</p>
<p>If we all drove Volvos with that crash avoidance City Safety thingy Victorian Police would have nothing to do anymore!</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130700</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frenchie there is NO PHOTO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frenchie there is NO PHOTO.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frenchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon there will be an electronic tag on your vehicle instead of a registration sticker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon there will be an electronic tag on your vehicle instead of a registration sticker.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frenchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the photo shows the driver of the vehicle at the time of the offence and number plate?

It was my Twin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the photo shows the driver of the vehicle at the time of the offence and number plate?</p>
<p>It was my Twin?</p>
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		<title>By: JML</title>
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		<dc:creator>JML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I meant in terms of unlicensed drivers, not unregistered vehicles. I thought it was a camera and letter in the mail system, however if the police are pulling you over just down the road then you&#039;re nicked. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I meant in terms of unlicensed drivers, not unregistered vehicles. I thought it was a camera and letter in the mail system, however if the police are pulling you over just down the road then you&#8217;re nicked. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Yanzo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130671</link>
		<dc:creator>Yanzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 04:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so what if i cover my numberplate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what if i cover my numberplate?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuzz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130666</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when do we get the number plates with barcodes? Its a good idea to get cars and people whom should not be on the road, and are more than likely uninsured which isnt fair when they whack into someone who pays their rego and licencing costs. Only flaw i see is that i can drive my unregistered brown 20 year old commodore as long as the plates from my silver late model commodore are attached. If an officer was conducting the check an 07 silver commodore ss would come up on the screen though he would be pulling over a 91 brown commodore. When will they have a system ready that can distinguish models/ colours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when do we get the number plates with barcodes? Its a good idea to get cars and people whom should not be on the road, and are more than likely uninsured which isnt fair when they whack into someone who pays their rego and licencing costs. Only flaw i see is that i can drive my unregistered brown 20 year old commodore as long as the plates from my silver late model commodore are attached. If an officer was conducting the check an 07 silver commodore ss would come up on the screen though he would be pulling over a 91 brown commodore. When will they have a system ready that can distinguish models/ colours?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JML,
I think you&#039;ll find that this isn&#039;t like a speed camera that takes your picture and you get the notice in the post weeks later. Once detectied you are pulled over immediately.
In SA these are mounted in patrol cars, so the police are &quot;scanning&quot; thousands of cars a day just driving around in the course of their normal duties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JML,<br />
I think you&#8217;ll find that this isn&#8217;t like a speed camera that takes your picture and you get the notice in the post weeks later. Once detectied you are pulled over immediately.<br />
In SA these are mounted in patrol cars, so the police are &#8220;scanning&#8221; thousands of cars a day just driving around in the course of their normal duties.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaser</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130658</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were trialling this in Broadmeadows VIC earlier this year... same van, same setup. It stopped the traffic for a fair distance - they obviously found a lot of reasons to pull people over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were trialling this in Broadmeadows VIC earlier this year&#8230; same van, same setup. It stopped the traffic for a fair distance &#8211; they obviously found a lot of reasons to pull people over!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130651</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; No use recognizing the plate if you can just nominate a &gt;&gt; family member/fried as the driver at the time. Next.

Yes there is, as the owner of the vehicle should still be liable if their car is being driven on public roads without rego/ctp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; No use recognizing the plate if you can just nominate a &gt;&gt; family member/fried as the driver at the time. Next.</p>
<p>Yes there is, as the owner of the vehicle should still be liable if their car is being driven on public roads without rego/ctp.</p>
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		<title>By: NRD80Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>NRD80Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have been using them in the ACT as well. They set up on the Monaro Hwy around Fyshwick where the Hwy mearges into one lane across a bridge, them a few hundred metres down the road just before the road splits back to two lanes, there is usually about 3 or 4 Police to pull over the vehiclesthat the camera had picked up being unregistered etc and provide on the spot fine. Much better then just taking a picture then sending it and much harder to dispute.

Only problem is they do this around 5-6pm so cause a bit of traffic jam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been using them in the ACT as well. They set up on the Monaro Hwy around Fyshwick where the Hwy mearges into one lane across a bridge, them a few hundred metres down the road just before the road splits back to two lanes, there is usually about 3 or 4 Police to pull over the vehiclesthat the camera had picked up being unregistered etc and provide on the spot fine. Much better then just taking a picture then sending it and much harder to dispute.</p>
<p>Only problem is they do this around 5-6pm so cause a bit of traffic jam.</p>
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		<title>By: JML</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/30161/wheres-my-spy-camera/comment-page-1/#comment-130646</link>
		<dc:creator>JML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No use recognizing the plate if you can just nominate a family member/fried as the driver at the time. Next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No use recognizing the plate if you can just nominate a family member/fried as the driver at the time. Next.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dlr1 Says: 

This technology has been in use for a while in NSW, but one of the main aims has been to catch out unregisterd vehicles. Unregistered=no insurance, personal or property.

Do you know how many of these cameras are in NSW? I&#039;ve only saw them a couple times in the last few years. A little disappointing as i&#039;m on the road probably 40,000km or more annually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dlr1 Says: </p>
<p>This technology has been in use for a while in NSW, but one of the main aims has been to catch out unregisterd vehicles. Unregistered=no insurance, personal or property.</p>
<p>Do you know how many of these cameras are in NSW? I&#8217;ve only saw them a couple times in the last few years. A little disappointing as i&#8217;m on the road probably 40,000km or more annually.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea. Although the camera&#039;s which do the same thing in NSW can scan a couple of cars a second. So are able to read probably 5000/hr compared to 700/hr.

They can (and do) distort their figures any way they want but it is clear that this is a worthwhile technology.

The commonly bandied about figure of 30% deaths caused by speed actually includes more than 1/3rd of that figure not wearing a seatbelt/helmet and/or drink driving. ie 10% of all deaths. 

There is also a good chance that the 10% of unlicensed deaths are a 1/3rd of the speeding deaths too since it was probably speeding which lost them their licences in the first place.

I personally think their is too much of an emphasis on speed, rather than pathetic driver behaviour and skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea. Although the camera&#8217;s which do the same thing in NSW can scan a couple of cars a second. So are able to read probably 5000/hr compared to 700/hr.</p>
<p>They can (and do) distort their figures any way they want but it is clear that this is a worthwhile technology.</p>
<p>The commonly bandied about figure of 30% deaths caused by speed actually includes more than 1/3rd of that figure not wearing a seatbelt/helmet and/or drink driving. ie 10% of all deaths. </p>
<p>There is also a good chance that the 10% of unlicensed deaths are a 1/3rd of the speeding deaths too since it was probably speeding which lost them their licences in the first place.</p>
<p>I personally think their is too much of an emphasis on speed, rather than pathetic driver behaviour and skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Dlr1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlr1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This technology has been in use for a while in NSW, but one of the main aims has been to catch out unregisterd vehicles. Unregistered=no insurance, personal or property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This technology has been in use for a while in NSW, but one of the main aims has been to catch out unregisterd vehicles. Unregistered=no insurance, personal or property.</p>
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