Comments on: Ford Falcon XR8 vs Holden Commodore SS AFM fuel economy challenge

By: james ficarro

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By: Turbodewd

Turbodewd — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:50:42 +0000

William, I am a Ford guy but pls spare us your emotional rants.

If Holden can achieve things using pushrods good on them. You dont judge an engine by its tech, you truly judge it by its output. If a 6.0L pushrod engine can put out the same power and economy as a rotary or 4cyl turbo…then whats the drama???

Judge by output…

By: William

William — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:22:07 +0000

and another worst thing is when you see a loser buy a brand new VE SS and parks it in front of his house sad??? he may think that he achieved something

instead of buying Aussie engineered he is buying the “other” and his new VE SS is a bottomless cave where he’ll spend $1000s more on fixing it!!!! its all good while its new, wait 10000ks and it will cost ya!

buy Ford, its better, more reliable and you will never kill it.

from a proud taxi driver William R, my car: AU1 1392000ks on clock , still new! and original engine.

By: William

William — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:17:38 +0000

And worst of all, try telling that to the naive uneducated and unwilling to understand public? to a typical yobbo fag who drinks beer and listens to acdc and thinks that a holden is an Aussie icon, where in fact a Ford Falcon is everything to be called an icon! its been around here longer and its everything to us.

Most reliable, most comfortable and most powerful and torque rich factory produced cars are by FORD, especially Ford Falcon Australia and Ford Crown Victoria USA!

they are an icon, a standard which can never be out performed! or beaten!

Ford is the best, strongest company auto maker on the planet, nothing beats Fords ingenuity, knowledge of Ford engineers and their effort!

it is very sad to see a stock FG XT Falcon, white 3500km 5 speed auto 195kW/391Nm on RON91 and 198kW/411Nm on RON98 beat and totally destroy a so called piece of crap high tech Aurion V6 and match a supercharged version of it!!!!???

very sad!

it is sad indeed!

its sad to see that, that a stock FG Barra195 is actually de-tuned from 220ish kW and 430ish Nm of torque on RON91 petrol! to only 191/391 just to let the poor losing competition stay alive!!!!

shame!

a total shame!!!!!!!!!

Ford all the way! say what you want. Educate yourself 1st and then make a comment about cars!!!!!!

Ford Falcons 1989 – 2009 any day over any crapppaddore!

HOLDEN = holes, oil leaks, dents, engine noise they are not as reliable as Ford , they are no where near as flawless as Ford.

adios amigos

By: William

William — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:10:32 +0000

And at the end of the day i still see stupid, dumb and naive misinformed, illiterate and egocentric public going and buying a totally flawed Alloytec 190 and 195kW V6 commodores, and i see them waste $30000? 40000? on stupid crappy VE utes with a crappy V6 and still being given a run for their money by an old shit box EAII 3.9L Falcon and EL or an AU taxi …. and totally destroyed with today very cheap and affordable BA Falcon XT 2003 models which you can acquire for less than $8000 now days vs a shit box thats slow and has no torque at all for $40000 EG: SV6 commodore total shit

how about a 60th anniversary VE? a total flaw!!!!! does 0-100km/h in 9.5s, a stock 3.0L camry V6 does under 8s

a stock EL does 8s 0-100km/h, a stock AUIII does just under 8s.

a stock BA XT does just over 7s, any other model such as XR6 or SR or Classic do flat out 7s from a stock 4.0L 182/190kW I6 3984cc 4.0L DOHC VCT six engine.

its a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a shame!!!!! a stock Falcon XT auto $6999 with 244000km on clock beats a 2008 VE SV6 manual with 15000ks on clock!

its a shame!!!!!!!

a shame!!!!!!!!!!!! booo on you boooo!!!!!

By: William

William — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:03:39 +0000

a stock FG XR8 makes 302kW with RON98, 290 or 288.8kW constant on a hot day on RON91 petrol. SS commodore makes 248kW on RON91 and 266.2kW on RON98 again wrongly advertising and its NOT 270kW!, its a piece of a crap of a car = HOLDEN VE SS. It is less economical than any 5.4Litre Boss engine so far and it loses in TORQUE and tractable power from a long gone indestructible 3V Barra220 engine.

At the end of the day Holden cars are not AUSTRALIAN cars at all, they are just re badged from something that is known as CHEV and wrongly preached to us as one of our own brands “HOLDEN” that is.

Pontiac GT and G8 are basically CHEV and Pontiac and are NOT Australian Commodore, its just the naive public whom are brainwashed in to believeing that its actually an Aussie icon. But in fact its all 100% USA and UK renamed to a Holden and then built here and then falsely re named and exported to USA, while a Ford Falcon has been an Australian engineered and designed 100% ground up since late early 60s.

Ford Falcon as a car, especially from the E series till now is 100% Australian owned patent, Australian engineered, built, designed and tested.

It only has a Ford badge on it, where in fact it has nothing really to do with Ford USA apart from Boss260/290/302/315 engines and 3V F-150/250 “Barra220/230″.

As far as a car goes, the Inline SIX is all 100% Aussie and the rest of the sheet metal and nuts and bolts.

Commodore is the biggest scam, rubbish car, useless crap!

a stock 290kW 6 speed manual XR8 FG will eat a stock 6 speed manual VE SS.

end of story.

Not to mention that it will go well over 500000miles vs 200000 miles for a crappy inferior GEN4 piece of crap with only 16Valves and 90 year old push rod crap!

By: Donna

Donna — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:55:59 +0000

I own a 5.4l 2004 fairmont ghia 4 speed auto, and this car is a keeper, it still has the same new car feel as the 1st time i got it in jan 04 and so far i have managed to outrun every single car on the road to date! and don\’t forget it just reached 200000km today! and still as new!

By: brendan

brendan — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:33:11 +0000

What a load of garbage, there is no way in this world that, that 5.4 Ford V8 is more economical than the SS manual let alone the auto with the AFM on it.
This goes against every test ever done on these cars buy Wheels, Motor and Top gear. They drove an AFM equipped Calai from Melbourne to Sydney on one tank of fuel there is no way the Ford could do that.
Also the SS runs mis to low 5′s, with AFM will and has run mid to high 5′s with the XR8 somewhere back in the dust.
The FPV GT barely get’s under the 6 second barrier.
How much did FORD pay for this????

By: Heath

Heath — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:28:33 +0000

Well goin out to all the holden boys out there. I have a current FG XR6T Manual. and on regular occasions i get people in Auto VE HSV GTS Commodores come up to me and try to give me runs and can gladly say that I will take on allcomers. Because for value for money and the price difference between the two of them. My car takes the pants off of them. Good old fashioned boat anchor V8′s. Just love it. Turbo six is way of the future!!!!

By: Barry

Barry — Thu, 07 May 2009 21:29:26 +0000

The commodoer outsell the falcon 3 to 1..
falcon rubbish, why bother ford..