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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-150145</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Smith, many states in the USA it is in fact illegal to talk on the mobile while driving.
NY just for one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Smith, many states in the USA it is in fact illegal to talk on the mobile while driving.<br />
NY just for one!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-150144</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. You did the wrong thing. 
2. It was probably safe given traffic was at a standstill.
3. The government loves the revenue from fines.
4. Its not going to change.
5. It really sucks police choose not to use more discretion.
6. Life isn&#039;t fair.
7. $234 could have bought a pretty decent handsfree - and saved points.
8. Sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. You did the wrong thing.<br />
2. It was probably safe given traffic was at a standstill.<br />
3. The government loves the revenue from fines.<br />
4. Its not going to change.<br />
5. It really sucks police choose not to use more discretion.<br />
6. Life isn&#8217;t fair.<br />
7. $234 could have bought a pretty decent handsfree &#8211; and saved points.<br />
8. Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: Traffic-jam-talker</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-150140</link>
		<dc:creator>Traffic-jam-talker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just pulled over, literally 2 hours ago for checking my voicemail while stuck in a traffic jam. Anyone who lives in Melbourne and knows what Chapel street is like will know that you can get stuck in the same spot for quite a while. 
I hadn&#039;t moved for a while and thought I&quot;d check my voicemail - granted this is illegal and yes I agree a stupid thing to do knowing it was illegal.

However to me whats more stupid and indeed should be as illegal as white collar fraud as in my mind it&#039;s a set up to make money - is that an unmarked policecar - bright green it was, was parked on chapel st and then pulled me over and booked me with a $234 fine and 3demerit points.

he then went back to his parking spot to lurk in hiding waiting for his next victim.

I am Ok with paying the fine, I did something wrong I agree but it was a judged decision in a traffic jam that I would not hurt anyone. Don&#039;t they always tell you to drive to the conditions?

I find it very hard to understand why this action by me is booked the same demerit points as driving over 30kms over the speed limit which causes devastating effects?

Is this just a money making scheme by the government in Victoria to put their police into places to trap drivers?

I&quot;m happy pay the fine but the demerit points I think is ridiculous.

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just pulled over, literally 2 hours ago for checking my voicemail while stuck in a traffic jam. Anyone who lives in Melbourne and knows what Chapel street is like will know that you can get stuck in the same spot for quite a while.<br />
I hadn&#8217;t moved for a while and thought I&#8221;d check my voicemail &#8211; granted this is illegal and yes I agree a stupid thing to do knowing it was illegal.</p>
<p>However to me whats more stupid and indeed should be as illegal as white collar fraud as in my mind it&#8217;s a set up to make money &#8211; is that an unmarked policecar &#8211; bright green it was, was parked on chapel st and then pulled me over and booked me with a $234 fine and 3demerit points.</p>
<p>he then went back to his parking spot to lurk in hiding waiting for his next victim.</p>
<p>I am Ok with paying the fine, I did something wrong I agree but it was a judged decision in a traffic jam that I would not hurt anyone. Don&#8217;t they always tell you to drive to the conditions?</p>
<p>I find it very hard to understand why this action by me is booked the same demerit points as driving over 30kms over the speed limit which causes devastating effects?</p>
<p>Is this just a money making scheme by the government in Victoria to put their police into places to trap drivers?</p>
<p>I&#8221;m happy pay the fine but the demerit points I think is ridiculous.</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-131013</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been using the roads both in car and bike for 24 years now and im angry at people using their cars like a lounge ,taking on mobile phones treating the road as a distraction to their social life,
come on lets get tough and inforce the law and make money,thus my suggestion make laws that employ private or public traffic officers who have the power to enforce traffic offences such as mobile phone use via mobile traffic cammers , i know i can stand on most busy streets facing traffic and wittness at least four drivers per min using phones,a photo and fine in mail with lots of revenue to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been using the roads both in car and bike for 24 years now and im angry at people using their cars like a lounge ,taking on mobile phones treating the road as a distraction to their social life,<br />
come on lets get tough and inforce the law and make money,thus my suggestion make laws that employ private or public traffic officers who have the power to enforce traffic offences such as mobile phone use via mobile traffic cammers , i know i can stand on most busy streets facing traffic and wittness at least four drivers per min using phones,a photo and fine in mail with lots of revenue to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-130088</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schuey in charge of the Pedestrian council now?

What happened to Scruby? Run-over by a pensioner with a runaway walking frame on a pedestrian bridge?

I&#039;m all for strict enforcement of mobile phone use. I&#039;ll admit it is IMPOSSIBLE to SMS or hold a phone and be 100% in control of a vehicle. 

For professional driver&#039;s it&#039;s simply INEXCUSABLE to not have a handsfree device if based in the car, especially given it can be claimed on tax and costs even less again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schuey in charge of the Pedestrian council now?</p>
<p>What happened to Scruby? Run-over by a pensioner with a runaway walking frame on a pedestrian bridge?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for strict enforcement of mobile phone use. I&#8217;ll admit it is IMPOSSIBLE to SMS or hold a phone and be 100% in control of a vehicle. </p>
<p>For professional driver&#8217;s it&#8217;s simply INEXCUSABLE to not have a handsfree device if based in the car, especially given it can be claimed on tax and costs even less again.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-130075</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RoFlmaTiC Says: 
April 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm 
Does that guy not have a right ear? 

Nah, right ear has been neuked by the microwave energy from his mobile! But that&#039;s another argument.

Oh and the GPS should be over further - it doesn&#039;t totally block his view of the road where it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoFlmaTiC Says:<br />
April 27th, 2009 at 8:15 pm<br />
Does that guy not have a right ear? </p>
<p>Nah, right ear has been neuked by the microwave energy from his mobile! But that&#8217;s another argument.</p>
<p>Oh and the GPS should be over further &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t totally block his view of the road where it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-130071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just in the US for a month and talking on the phone while driving is completely legal.  Cops are more concerned there about whether you come to a complete stop at a stop sign.  My uncle was driving us down to the airport on the freeway (going about 115-120 km/h) and talking on his phone at the same time.  We mentioned that what he&#039;s doing would be illegal in Australia.  He said &quot;well, this is America.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just in the US for a month and talking on the phone while driving is completely legal.  Cops are more concerned there about whether you come to a complete stop at a stop sign.  My uncle was driving us down to the airport on the freeway (going about 115-120 km/h) and talking on his phone at the same time.  We mentioned that what he&#8217;s doing would be illegal in Australia.  He said &#8220;well, this is America.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-130070</link>
		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that guy not have a right ear?</description>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-130069</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is talking on the phone more dangerous than talking to a passenger? Because with a mobile phone you don&#039;t have both hands on the wheel. Try and do an emergency manouver with 1 hand, if you lose control your done. How hard is it to use a handsfree kit? You can get bluetooth aftermarket kits for about $90 Anybody driving with a phone to their ear or texting should be shot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is talking on the phone more dangerous than talking to a passenger? Because with a mobile phone you don&#8217;t have both hands on the wheel. Try and do an emergency manouver with 1 hand, if you lose control your done. How hard is it to use a handsfree kit? You can get bluetooth aftermarket kits for about $90 Anybody driving with a phone to their ear or texting should be shot</p>
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		<title>By: thomasrdotorg</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/29887/victorians-worst-mobile-phone-culprits/#comment-130055</link>
		<dc:creator>thomasrdotorg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All non driving activities increase you chances of crashing, but many can be stopped when the driving situation becomes hazardous. A passenger shuts up when there&#039;s a ripple of brake lights. You (should) only change the radio when safe to do so. But there&#039;s no safe time to talk on the phone- hands free or not- because the person on the other end does not know when to shut up.

And this is not an opinion, MUARC and others have done extensive testing. Google it for hours of reading.

I&#039;ve always said there&#039;s a simple solution- no fine, just take the mobile phone and drop it in a bucket of water. People would soon stop doing it.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All non driving activities increase you chances of crashing, but many can be stopped when the driving situation becomes hazardous. A passenger shuts up when there&#8217;s a ripple of brake lights. You (should) only change the radio when safe to do so. But there&#8217;s no safe time to talk on the phone- hands free or not- because the person on the other end does not know when to shut up.</p>
<p>And this is not an opinion, MUARC and others have done extensive testing. Google it for hours of reading.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always said there&#8217;s a simple solution- no fine, just take the mobile phone and drop it in a bucket of water. People would soon stop doing it.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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