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it is available in Europe, so i guess you can easily import it. Bolero pick up is the cheapest and most reliable base farm pick up.

Cheers !!

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He failed to acknowledge my point that I have driven Indian produced cars and found them very sturdy and very appropriate to extreme road conditions. The technology is basic, but that is not a bad thing.

I have also been involved with the motor trade for many years and I can tell you the weak links in most brands regardless of country of origin. Most Japanese cars used to rust badly, generally had flimsy interiors, but these things improve over time.

Competition and technology help the consumer and improve the breed.

One the most sturdy and reliable vehciles I have driven and owned is an Isuzu Crosswind, it was basic, well built and so economical. It is a car built in the Philippines and for the road conditions very appropriate, I agree with you most Aussies have no idea with what the rest of the world has to offer and pass judgement without driving or having knowledge of these cars.

I’ve driven many of them and I respect them, if they are a good product the market will reward those who make them.

All the best

I can understand the trouble with certain section of the community’s resistence to things from India. There is a shift in this attitude all over the world. Here is Australia we have just not caught up with it, because, here in this melting potty, people are pushing their own flags. Stop looking at where it is from, evaluate the technology. Say somethinh useful so that people can use the information to make a good decision.

Cheers Vailixi

You may be right with some of the body issues with the 1600 over the longer term and at least you agree with me over the motor, which is the correct comparison I wanted to paint with the mechaicals of the Indian beast, so thanks for that.

Face the fact that Mitsubishi built absolute garbage for 30 years and wonders why folk would not buy the 380 a half decent car, because like me they were scared. So be frank, no ones skipping decades I can remember colts needing engines every 60000klm when a comparable corolla would keep on going, mitsubishi has always built crap, coz if they didn\’t they would be Toyota or even VW, at a stretch you could blame them for much of the global warming thanks to their smoking engines all over the globe.

Hyundais only improved when they severred links with Mitsubishis engine Dept. The early stuff was crap.

Remember Realcars, everyone has a valid opinion

Im still with Steve on this, Indian stuff is certainly tough.

Magna was a good car in it’s time as was the Sigma.A couple of known problems but no more than anything else during that era.

Datsun 1600 was a piece of crap out of the factory and I know first hand as my father owned a 72 gl from new, the last of the series. A truly biodegradable car except for the motor.

1st gen Hyundais have proved very reliable oddly enough.

People have got to stop skipping decades when compare manufacturers and models for quality and reliability!!!

Not suggesting I would buy one, but as some others have said, you would avoid giving an apprentice a $35K (Thai made) Hilux to trash, better off with one of these and get rid of it before the warranty expires, for a farmer, maybe they could keep it a bit longer.

I will never agree that the Chinese build and engineer better cars than those from the sub continent, I\’ve driven some of the Chinese utes and cherry cars in SE Asia and they are tinny with a Captital T and down right scary, the Indian creations seem to be more rugged, not so tinny and built stronger for the rougher roads.

Reliability is a big question and so is longevity, but people will buy them.

I disagree the market is small, the market is big, (people bought the original Hiluxes etc when others were laughing, whos laughing now), Aussies tend be suckers for these cheapie cars, look at the rubbish GM and Ford have delivered us over the years and please dont be offended we all know of the tales of sadness many an owner has endured, myself included.

I also remember the countless 1st gen Hyundais and Daewoos Aussies bought, a cheap car with a warranty will always appeal here.

We do have a cheap car mentality in OZ, it has lessened I admit, but people do buy cheap rubbish here and flog it till it collapses, look at the Ford Festiva (Kia Pride)(a poorly made poo box if ever there was one, in Asia, they used them as taxis and they died years ago), but Aussies still drive them, If Aussies were not attracted by cheap poo cars Mitsubishi would\’ve left in the mid 80\’s, anyone remember the Sigma, what a car that was, I aint even going to mention the magna, thats a Uni Thesis for someone.

I am not pro Jap or pro Euro or pro Aussie for cars, I am pro reliability, quality, longevity and very few makers have been able to maintain that constant throughout the years. Toyota has come close, VW in some cases, Mercedes up until the 1980\’s, Nissan up until the late 80\’s, Some Fords and Some GM products, but there are very few constants here.

It all depends on the car, a Datsun 1600 or a Datsun Stanza, two similar concepts with very different outcomes, the base level engineering and sum of the parts creates what we better know as reliability.

Feel free to disagree, I\’ve seen it from the early Jap cars up to the present.

Tony, Telcoline’s were dirt cheap as well, but they were cra* (Sorry shouldn’t say that), better to say they weren’t up to the standard of early seventies Australian built Leyland Marinas. If the M&M is anything like them (or the original willys jeep styled ones) then they are far better left alone.

If I were an Aussie bloke tradie, I think I would feel embarrassed to say this is my car when parked to all my mates’ Rodeos, Hiluxes, Tritons etcs…

I would say the target market for this car is going to be quite small… I don’t think the bang for buck mentality here is Australia is that quite as of India…

slap on a $1k alloy tray you got a fine work ute

drive it until it’s out of warranty, get another one (maybe Jap this time)

what i’m saying is that for a work ute carting around tools and crap it’s fine

maybe even better if you give it to apprentices or other employees… stuff giving them a $35k Hilux!

btw. no airbags, no abs?

Im suspecting some one with power @ Mahindra saw “Brokeback Mountain” and decided that Australia was the ‘perfect target market” =(

Makes sense though :P

Oh, and it is ugly. I think some vomit just came out :-(