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2009 Lexus IS-F Review & Road Test

LEXUS IS F

Pros: Great package, handling, exhaust noise, looks

Cons: Too many gears, hard ride, power delivery, the $5 green LED clock

By Karl Peskett |
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2009 Lexus IS-F Review & Road Test

Lexus is getting there…

Model Tested:

  • 2009 Lexus IS-F,  5.0-litre V8, eight-speed automatic – $129,900

Options:

  • None fitted

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- by Karl Peskett and Alborz Fallah

Photography by www.ozcarsightings.com and Tristan Schoonens

Alborz and I are going to have an argument and it’s going to be big. That’s the beauty of having differing personalities I guess, you each get to think what you want.

The problem comes when you need to give your opinion, and when you do it together, they can sometimes clash. As it stands, I personally believe that BMW’s M3 Sedan is possibly the best car of 2009, because it ticks every box that I can think of.

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But Alborz’s opinion on things is a little different. He thinks that Lexus’s IS-F is the best car he’s driven, and that is where our opinions diverge.

Read the rest of Karl’s Review

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Karl is an idiot. We spent an entire month travelling across Europe together on the Full Throttle trip, arguing over the IS-F versus the BMW M3, so much so that we decided to write two reviews just so we could argue with each other publicly.

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Here is the thing with the IS-F, it’s so far my favourite car under $150,000 for 2009. There are a lot of mixed reviews about Lexus’ first attempt at the luxury performance market. Most like the car but consistently say that the BMW M3 is the better choice and you know what, I agree, but I’d still buy the Lexus, so let me tell you why.

Read the rest of Alborz’s Review.

Alborz and I are going to have an argument and it’s going to be big. That’s the beauty of having differing personalities I guess, you each get to think what you want.

The problem comes when you need to give your opinion, and when you do it together, they can sometimes clash. As it stands, I personally believe that BMW’s M3 Sedan is possibly the best car of 2009, because it ticks every box that I can think of.

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But Alborz’s opinion on things is a little different. He thinks that Lexus’s IS-F is the best car he’s driven, and that is where our opinions diverge.

Don’t get me wrong, the IS F is a mighty nice car. Witness the fact that Lexus was good enough to hand us both the car for two weeks each, instead of the usual seven days, which meant we were able to fully assess every facet of the car.

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So, it was in with the baby seat, shopping in the boot, wife in the passenger’s seat (actually, she booted me out of the driver’s seat more often than not), and ready for a proper road test.

For me, the most dominant feature is that engine. The 5.0-litre V8 is just a phenomenal piece of engineering. With the tacho climbing past 3800rpm, the intake and exhaust work together in optimised harmony, and the engine clears its throat, and turns the volume up to 11.

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The bellowing roar is like a V8 Supercar that’s been cleaned up, washed, polished and chamoised. There’s a level of sophistication to it that means that anyone who hears it, from the Queen of England to a Brooklyn gangster, will immediately fall in love.

lexus-is-f-160The only problem is that below that magic mark of 3800rpm, there’s little, if anything, happening. You have to wait for an eternity for the revs to climb, and if you’re stuck in the wrong gear, you’ve been passed by the M3 driver who has his torque on tap all the time.

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Of course, once you’ve got it on song, there’s not a lot stopping it. The on paper specifications tell the story.

Zero to 100km/h in 4.7 seconds. Make sure that you do it in manual mode, too, because left in automatic, there’s a brief pause between each gear, facilitating smooth changes. Shifting with the paddles, it’s almost DSG-like with a shift time in milliseconds, and you can feel it, too.

Left in drive, under normal driving conditions, the eight-speed auto gearbox is smooth as silk, and there’s a muted V8 rumble to accompany the Mark Levinson stereo. It’s beautifully quiet, and solidly built, too, meaning no rattles, squeaks, or shaking from anywhere in the cabin. The integrity of the bodywork means it just feels tight and free of any chassis wobble.

lexus-is-f-034That means when you throw it into bends, it’s very stable, and confidence inspiring. The hard ride pays off with supreme grip, and if you want, you can explore the limits quite safely. With the VDC off, the diff is not a limited slip, so it only slides out so far before it comes back. If you’re pushing it, then the M3 is a better bet due to its better more absorbent damping and proper LSD.

So here’s the problem. To get the best result, you need to get it above 4000rpm and if you’re doing that, you are going to be speeding. Because it only really sounds good at more than legal speeds, you need a track, but then it doesn’t have the grip levels to match up to its speed potential.

So, you’re either going too fast with no way to exploit it, or you’re going too slow with an overly firm ride and muted soundtrack.

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The other problem is the interior. It’s so well appointed, and so well built, there’s little to fault it. The touchscreen display works perfectly, too. So why are there duplicate buttons everywhere? For example, there’s an audio button where you can choose your radio station from the touch screen, but there are also AM and FM buttons below the screen. Why?

When you press the FM button, you then have to go to the touchscreen to choose the station. Why not just choose FM from the touchscreen also? Same goes for the climate control, why not just use the screen for everything?

lexus-is-f-043The other problem is the clock. The time should be displayed on the touchscreen, or the instrument cluster. Instead, there’s a green on black LCD clock taken straight out of a 1988 Toyota Tarago. It ruins the ambience of what could be a near perfect cabin. Penny pinching at its best.

There’s a more than few disappointments, which you just don’t get with the IS-F’s main rival, the M3 Sedan. You get a better ride. You get a better sound. You get a more instant throttle response. You get better handling. You get a more controllable rear end, and you don’t get a crappy clock.

I know Alborz will disagree, but for me, the M3 Sedan is it.

Read Alborz’s Review.

Karl is an idiot. We spent an entire month travelling across Europe together on the Full Throttle trip, arguing over the IS-F versus the BMW M3, so much so that we decided to write two reviews just so we could argue with each other publicly.

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Here is the thing with the IS-F, it’s so far my favourite car under $150,000 for 2009. There are a lot of mixed reviews about Lexus’ first attempt at the luxury performance market. Most like the car but consistently say that the BMW M3 is the better choice and you know what, I agree, but I’d still buy the Lexus, so let me tell you why.

Monday morning, I still hadn’t got out of bed and Anthony called me up all excited. Normally this doesn’t faze me because Anthony is generally always excited about something, either it’s about some completely random and stupidly fast car he has booked for us in Europe or it’s something as simple as having just beaten a GSXR-1000 in a diesel Peugeot around some bends. Either way, he has to tell us all, at 8am in the morning.

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“Aston Martin is giving us the first Australian drive of the DBS auto in Brisbane” – okay, so now I was excited too. Not often I get a supercar car up my way.

“We’ve got the car for three days, but we need a fast chase car to head up the sunshine coast with, what have you got booked that week?” I looked at my calendar and the words biopower SAAB 9-3 convertible stood out like a sore thumb.

“@#$^ that, we need something really quick,” Anthony said.

A few emails to Lexus and they kindly gave me the IS-F for two weeks. I’ll admit, I wanted the M3 originally, but that was unavailable and up until the point where I stepped on the throttle in the IS-F, I still wanted the M3.

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Before you rush to the comments section and argue for the BMW, let me explain a few things about Lexus.

The Toyota jokes are really starting to wear thin, I spent two weeks with the IS-F and it took all those two weeks to get to fall in love with the car, had I spent one week with it, I would probably be writing a different review.

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I can recall the moment that I realised the IS-F was a car worthy of its claims. It was raining rather heavily up through the Glasshouse Mountains and in front of me was former racing driver Kevin Bartlett in a Aston Martin DBS, my task? Keep up with him at full pace, ah I love my job!

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I could see the back of the Aston sliding out slightly as he pushed harder and harder around the corners. I suppose seeing a blue Lexus consistently behind you must have been a rather annoying sight.

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Our photographer, who was sitting next to me at the time, was starting to get worried as the battle up the mountain intensified. He had just bought a house and still intended to live at least another 60 years, so sitting next to a guy chasing a racing driver in a superior car up a mountain in the wet wasn’t his idea of a risk-free afternoon.

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Needless to say, KB couldn’t lose me. We finally pulled over and he slowly climbed out of the Aston and looked over at the Lexus. He didn’t say much at first but finally he broke his silence: “that thing is pretty quick”.

I’d love to take all the credit here, after all mountain driving is my speciality, but it wasn’t me, all I was doing was following his line and the IS-F did the rest.

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So there it was, a sub $150,000 car keeping up with James Bond’s car. Could the M3 do the same? Probably, so why buy the IS-F you ask?

Well, for once, I can say the Lexus is more unique. How many IS-Fs have you seen? Not many, and how many new M3s have you seen? It’s quicker from 0-100km/h than all its rivals and the sound, well, you just have to hear it.

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I don’t know what I liked better, the V12 note from the Aston or the V8 in the Lexus, or both of them put together in a symphony.

After our mission with the Aston had finished, I still had the IS-F for another week and as the return date got closer I was starting to feel anxious about giving it back.

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Every car that comes through the Brisbane offices goes up Mounts Nebo and Glorious and the IS-F had its turn. My own car has always kept the record for a Mount Nebo run and the IS-F didn’t beat it, nor did it beat the Evo X, but then again it’s not made for that. What is amazing about the IS-F is the level of grip for a relatively large car.

If you turn the rather annoying nanny controls off, you actually get to experience what it feels like to drive a proper, raw, well powered, well engineered, modern V8 muscle car. You can argue about the electronic differential but it does the job.

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The back comes out ever so slightly as you push it past its limits around tight corners, but if there was ever a car you could easily control around bends, this would be it.

Originally I was going to give the IS-F 4.5 stars but there are a few issues. Firstly, the internal clock. I have no idea how the idea got passed final inspection because to include a stand alone, green LED digital clock taken out of a 1987 Toyota Camry in the company’s first serious performance car is, frankly, embarrassing.

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Even on the IS250 it’s a bad idea, but on the IS-F? Please, remove the clock! It will increase the appeal of the interior ten fold.

Then there is the eight-speed gearbox, do you really need eight gears in a performance car? Not unless you can do it right. What happens is the IS-F will spend half its time trying to work out which gear is appropriate and by the time it has done that you’ve lost the momentum. Also it fails to drop down rapidly when you plant it.

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The gearbox does eventually learn your driving style but it never feels like it agrees with you.

The other problem is the power delivery and the noise. I love the noise, but why does it have to come on at 4500rpm plus? I’d like it to start at around 3500rpm. Same with the power, in-gear acceleration isn’t as linear as the M3.

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From the outside, I’d also like to see the IS-F show a bit more aggression, I know Lexus are going for a subtle performance car, similar to the Germans, but flared guards and a rear diffuser is needed to give it that extra bit of anger.

Many have complained about the IS-F’s harsh ride and this is very evident in the rear seats. The front seats are rather comfortable and you’re not going to hear many complaints. Sit in one of the two rear seats and you’ll start to realise that the suspension is made for better roads.

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There are some notable advantages in picking the Lexus. Being Japanese you can be assured it will be running for another 20 years without hassles. Servicing is significantly cheaper than the German brands as well but resale value is still a question for the IS-F.

So here is how it works. If you have got about $150,000 to spend on a luxury performance car you’ve got a few choices.

Of course if you don’t want luxury you can always attempt to get one of the few Nissan GT-Rs available in Australia and it will slaughter any of the aforementioned cars.

If you want a mixture of power, brand value and performance, you can either pick the Audi RS4, which at the moment is still waiting to be updated with the new model, or the Mercedes-Benz AMG C63, which is an awesome machine but lacks the finesse of the M3 and the IS-F.

The BMW M3 is the obvious choice, but it’s everyone’s favourite, which gives it a common feel, or you can pick the IS-F.

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If you want a two door coupe, you have to buy the M3 and as a two-door, the BMW works and looks magnificent. However as a four door, the competition really steps up.

It my opinion the M3 doesn’t work as a four-door, it just looks awkward. It pretty much comes down to the C63 and the IS-F. Many can’t go past the Mercedes badge and given the similar price and performance of the two cars, it’s a hard choice.

My Advice? Drive them both, get to know the IS-F before you rule it out because it’s one of those cars that takes a while to fall in love with, but those are the ones you want to keep.

Read Karl’s Review.

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  • Mad Max

    There is no doubt that it is a very very good car. But a GREAT car? I’m not convinced. I have never driven one (only an IS250 and they are very different cars) but I think if I was spending this kind of money, I would be looking at BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc. Lexus are so reliable and are always at or near the top of the JD Powers surveys, just like regular Toyota’s. They are well built, reliable, but…
    This is only my opinion and I am sure their will be plenty of you who will disagree, but to me Lexus is just Toyota wearing different clothes. They seem to depreciate pretty quickly as well. Maybe thats just the older models and the newer ones will be better.
    Its just that if I am spending that money, I want the name, the brand and yes I guess in a way, the snob value that goes with it. I also want it to hold its value a bit better as well.

  • ODOG

    I agree with Max overpriced if your going to spend that much on a Toyota why not pay a bit more and get at GT-R 35 which we would all agree is a far far better car.

  • VW Freak

    Car Advice says:

    “Too many gears, hard ride, power delivery, the $5 green LED clock”

    Guys, the clock does not use an LED-type display, it is a VFD (Vacuum Fluorescent Display) type. You’re probably right about the $5 cost though, lol.

  • Shane

    Agreed with Mad Max also, I would just go Euro to begin with not Japanese aimed at Euro. They are a very nice sounding engine which I have heard and they look OK, but the M3 just has it all in my opinion. I really think the interior needs a lot of work, it still screams Toyota which at this price or level is not a good thing.

  • Jazrod

    this is still the older model – the newer one has updated tail-lights like on the new IS250.
    Great car otherwise.

  • Danman2

    Nice review AF!

    The run between Samford and the Mt Nebo climb must be fun..
    As AF said, give this car two weeks in the driveway and then judge. I havn’t had that pleasure but got a lift into the CBD last year in one of these and they are soooo nice. A Jap V8 is a great piece of technology, hand built too. Plus Lexus dont sting you for silly things ($3000 met paint, anyone..)and the customer service is the best in the world. This matters.

  • Acfsambo

    I look at all the competitors before spending this kind of money.
    Lexus have done a good job with the IS-F, but they havn’t been doing it as long as the Germans and don’t have the background knowledge that BMW/Merc/Audi/ect. have in building these cars. Though in saying that, the next IS-F will be better and they will keep getting better, probably at a faster rate than BMW/Merc/Audi/ect. as they have more to improve on. I say wait maybe 5 years than see where they are compared to a BMW.

  • Mad Max

    Danman, from what I have heard, you are spot on with customer service from Lexus. I have read a few US based websites and the Lexus customer service appears to be brilliant.
    Looking at this car I can see glimpses of Aurion from certain angles 93 quarter rear). Its probably a Toyota style type thing.
    I just wish Toyota Aust made an Aurion that looked as good as this does. But they seem to want to stay conservative which for a large percentage of the car buying public, is just the right thing to do.

  • SteveH

    They really should have the option of a proper manual gearbox with this. It seems like BMW are the only ones still prepared to do this. Compared to the German rivals, this car is a lot better value in my opinion, I suppose its just a matter of driving them all and making your mind up if the Germans are worth the extra.

  • B-Man

    I actualy saw one of these on the road the other day, and to be honest, it looked very average. The bonnet doesn’t look right, and the badging and fake exhaust make it look cheap.
    And with regards to servicing price, you would be suprised how expensive lexus parts can be.
    Still, wouldn’t mind a drive.

  • FrugalOne

    I would rather the Lexus too, more reliabel and less complet, PLUS [and this is a good thing] its made by Toyota mentality, which suits me fine.

    THE most important thing to remember is that this is BigT’s[tm.F-0] FIRST GO at making a super sports sedan.

    The others have got to be s/hitting themselves, S2 will raise the bar again.

    Finally, being a Lexus is superior by non-association, they don’t do vans, cheap A Class [Or Smart's{Stupid?Ed.] cheap 116i’s etc. Lexus are all $55k and up, a PREMIUM brand as it should be.

    Well done A/F and Well done Lexus!

    V10 LF-A SuperCar to follow!

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Alec

    Yeh but frugal one,
    They do suffer by association.
    Dont forget that every Lexus is based off a Toyota… and Toyota does do Vans and even CHEAPER 116i competitors!

    Isn’t the IS still based off an Altezza?

  • S

    Alec, It was the other way around the Altezza was based off the IS series and that was only in Japan where Lexus was not offered until a couple of years ago. This has now stopped as Lexus is offered in Japan.

  • Alec

    S,

    Are you sure.. Altezza released in 1998, Lexus in 1999?? Lexus is now offered in Japan but pretty sure the Toyota equivalents are still sold to other markets still, lExus just has different body styles

  • Alan

    Alec, there is no more Altezza in Japan now as Lexus is on sale on Japan now, so the IS platform is not derived from Toyota.
    Either way i’m not big fan of te IS-F, the bonnet bulge, fake pipe and the general body kit looks after market rice car. For me, M3 is the one to have, even in sedan guise it is still the best looking of this sector. Only downside to the M3 i can think of is the rather cramped rear seats compared to C63 and the new S4 (and eventually the RS4), mind you IS has a rather cramped rear seats too.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ alborz

    Alec, not every Lexus is not based on a Toyota. Of course they share engineering and platforms but they are inherently different cars. Similar in the same way that VW is to Audi.

  • Alan

    Alec, not sure about which of first gen IS and Altezza went on sale first (though i think you’re right with Altezza being first), but i’m very sure the current IS is only sold as a Lexus, no more Altezza

  • Alec

    Regardless who is correct with IS/Altezza.
    Suffer by association still applies to
    Landcruiser/Lexus LX
    Camry/Lexus ES

  • Alec

    Alborz, I guess that was what I was getting at also re Platform Sharing

  • D

    Give me an M3 or C63 anyday, I wouldn’t even look at the Lexus.

  • S

    Many car companies share platforms and engineering Alec, nothing wrong with it.

    Anyway, I appreciate what Lexus have achieved in their short existence. If it wasn’t for the original LS the Germans (Mercedes, BMW and Audi) would not have upped their game in the way that they have. More competition means more choice for the customer so we all win by having better quality product from all manufacturers.

  • Devil666

    C63 lacks the finesse of IS-F? What have you guys been smoking?!

    There really is no love for Mercs or AMG around here. Sad, really :(

  • SteveH

    Alec, I don’ think that the Camry and ES share the same platform any more. When the ES was first released it did, but the ES is now rear wheel drive, so it may be similar, but not the same.

  • Alec

    I am not attempting to detract from Lexus as I do like a few of their cars they offer, particularly the IS250 and original LS400. However I am just replying to Frugal One’s comment about Merc/BMW’s association with lesser cars in their range.

    Steve H, the ES is still front wheel drive and does share the Camry platform. Check the US website.

    I personally would choose a C63. Tough looking car with an awesome sounding exhaust!

  • nobody

    I’ve seen these things parked at shopping centres before and not a fan of the look. As stated in the review, it needs to look more angry exterior wise. Though I’ve never heard one of these things in action I’m sure the soundtrack is quite amazing, too bad it takes awhile to start playing.

    The C63 AMG sounds great almost immediately. There’s quite afew around my area and it’s always nice when one passes by on the street. I think it’s just a great luxury performance car for just everyday driving on the street. Whereas the M3 is the overall well balanced champion for everything, but I don’t think it’s entertaining as the AMG for everyday suburbia driving.

    The Lexus really is just the other car, it doesn’t have the road presence and power delivery isn’t as good so it seems it wouldn’t be as fun to drive as the other two. But having said that it feels a gap in the market for people who want cars that have that Lexus way of doing things and that deliver performance. Though I think Audi’s RS range covers it better.

    However either way you look at it, it’s a great first attempt from Lexus though, the next IS F will definitely be a killer. LF-A already looks a monster, hopefully it will be a wonderful performance car on which the company can build on for their future performance products.

  • Alex

    FrugalOne wrote “Being a Lexus is superior by non-association, they don’t do vans, cheap A Class [Or Smart's{Stupid?Ed.] cheap 116i’s etc. Lexus are all $55k and up, a PREMIUM brand as it should be.”

    Hate to rain on your parade but Lexus is trying to get into the cheaper 1 Series market. There have been spy shots of a covered up Lexus hatch (about the size of a 1 Series) out testing and it’s expected for Europe at some point in the next couple of years. I’m sure it will come to Australia as well.
    And what does pricing have to do with what’s premium or prestigious? I could go and buy a Rolls Royce for $10,000 and you couldn’t tell me that it wasn’t premium. It’s about the actual car, not what you pay for it. And even if it was what you pay for it, how exactly is $55,000 expensive enough to be counted as premium? Demeans the word a bit if you ask me.

  • Steve-Poyza

    I would take this over an M3 sedan and I’m pretty sure its because I subconsciously think that the M3 is too common these days, while the Lexus is still a rare car to see. I saw one the other day and my heart melted. Wow that was a funny experience.
    The funny thing is, honestly, even though the C63 AMG is more common than the IS-F, its not nearly as regular as the M3 and I love it a lot so I don’t know. Its between the IS-F and the C63 AMG. And, if I had to choose an M3 it would be the coupé any day!
    Thanks for the brilliant review. If only I could have it for two weeks, even one week.
    *sighs*

  • Alex

    I can’t stand this car and it’s all because of one stupid little thing that would have been so easy for them to fix. WHY AREN’T THE BLOODY EXHAUST PIPES CONNECTED UP! This is a company that prides itself on build quality, well things like the pipes not doing anything really ruin that image.
    As for the actual car, my cousin bought one and I had a great drive in it while I was last in the UK but sorry, if your forced to have an auto anyway, the C63 is a better car. No doubt at all.
    I would take an M3, I’m the sort that wants the finesse and precision of a BMW if I’m buying this sort of car and it also really matters to me that one should be able to buy a manual version. The automatics are fine but they’re not as satisfying as a manual. I just think that we should choose, not them.
    The Lexus doesn’t have much presence either. A bright red M3 in traffic, I will notice that. A blue Lexus? Looks like an IS250 with a body kit and look, the exhausts aren’t even connected up…

  • HJP

    I got to admit IS-F is a very damn fine car although it was Lexus’ first attempt to challenge European upper performance division eg. AMG, M. Lexus done a good job on this meaning they still have lots of improvements to catch up with European. I have driven IS250 and very satisfied with the build quality and high level of standard equipment. IS-F is too expensive although it’s better to be priced around $100K drive away but not $140k drive away. With its $140k price I would rather spend little more to get C63 instead. Good job Lexus but not quite there yet.

  • SteveH

    Alex, I stand corrected, I was thinking of the GS series. The ES series has not been sold in Australia for a few years now.

    Agree about the exhausts, but they are just s styling exercise. The Mazda 6 MPS also has fake exhausts, but its for the look more than anything

  • The Realist

    M3 or C63 AMG for me over this car.

    But top first effort from Lexus. Imagine what they’ll do for the next model.

  • S

    @ Alex, the IS F is not the only car to have so called fake exhaust tips. Here is a list of a few:

    Audi R8
    Ferrari F430 Scuderia and California
    Bugatti Veyron
    Lamborghini LP640
    Mazda 6 MPS

    Personally I don’t think this will detract me from buying the above cars.

    Alborz, were the exhaust tips on your test cars connected? I heard that they were only disconnected on pre-production models.

  • kf

    Not a fan of this car nor the review – no idea how you can come to the conclusion to take it over an M3, RS4 or C63 when even the reviewer concedes it has:
    * a crap gearbox
    * no low-down torque
    * a lack of visual appeal
    * toyota-like interior

    The only real reason given to choose it is that it is more unique… well of course it is, no one buys it because all the other cars are better!! But seriously, $130K and all the above issues? No thanks!

  • Frontman

    Sorry but got to agree with the thinkers here. Sure, damn fine car for a first attempt. (reverse engineering at it’s finest) But with 6 design faults (admittedly the clock is a quible more than fault and looks are personal) I couldn’t bring myself to the same conclusion Alborz.
    If you are going to have to wring it’s neck to get performance from it then the motor is not suitable to this application, and I would be very suspect on the longevity of any such engine (probably be a real weapon in a ferrari type contender though). A high performance car only available in an auto that gets easily confused? Sorry. Lack of limited slip diff in a car of this potential?? Didn’t G6E Turbo get crucfied for that?
    M3 may be more common, but when you re the benchmark that is what you must expect. If you are the best in this very personal catagory then you will sell more. It ticks all the boxes and is better in areas that really count for a vehicle of this type so I reckon it still has the crown firmly on its head. (also doesn’t have the ricer pipes ou the back)
    Personally I’d chose the RS4 and live with the extra bank deficit.

  • Golfschwein

    If you turn up in one of these, you’ve arrived in a Lexus. If you turn up in a C63 or M3, you’ve arrived.

  • realcars

    Couldn’t agree more about the platform sharing.

    130k car based on a 30k car platform.

    Excellent buying for the Camry buyer.lol.

  • Tomas79

    Realcars, whats the difference between that and a 155k w427 based of a omega??

  • realcars

    No smoke and mirrors??

  • isf rules

    Unlike a number of keyboard warriors on here i can actually afford to buy one of these and i did! i chose the isf over the m3 and amg for a number of reasons but first things first, the isf body is only available in the is series lexus no other car in the range and nothing from toyota, the exhaust tips are connected both of them they end in a diffuser like the lamborghini and bugatti veyron and trust me they go, quarter mile times in the 12′s and 4.7sec 0-100kph,i chose the lexus over the bmw m3 because firstly the bmw is ugly has no torque and you have to rev the hell out of it to be any where near the power of the lexus or amg63 both the amg and m3 are around $20 dearer and for my dollar the lexus won hands down in power,sound transmission(i think it’s a treat)finish,equipment,looks and servicing,and buy the way every one is sold that comes into the country, lexus only get 10 a month australia wide i waited 8 months for mine! so do yourself’s a big favour if you are in the market for a $140+ super sedan drive the lexus isf after you have driven the bmw and benz that’s what i did! and “alborz” great report i agree with you on 95% of your road test! but you should have given it a 5.

  • Bait Fish

    I will go out on a limb here and say I WOULD HAVE THE W427 over this,GO ahead laugh,but who would be laughing in 10years time???

  • ChineseDriver

    Realcars,

    The IS is not based on the camry platform… It is a RWD.

    And it’s got good handling as the review said.

  • Ferodo

    isf rules Says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
    “Unlike a number of keyboard warriors on here i can actually afford to buy one of these”

    Daddy’s money I’m guessing, because anyone with you poor grasp of English and grammar couldn’t pull a job to buy a Barina.

    OR JUST ANOTHER TOYLEXUS RAVER WHO MAKES UP B/S!

  • Joober

    Bait Fish, no problems with saying that, people like different things, some people may prefer a gogo mobil from all things, and your preference for resale as a collector is a valid point that the ISF cannot match for, not a m3, c63 etc.

    Good review, and worth the rating, Topgears review places it behind the m3 but not too far. Good attempt for Lexus for their first run of the mill.

  • isf rules

    The w427 is based on the basic commodore omega platform the lexus isf is all is rear wheel drive, unique to lexus only!

  • http://www.checkwebhosting.com Neutral

    I reckon Lexus would sell better if it’s alliance with Toyota had been kept a secret from the very first day the Lexus brand was introduced. Although Lexus do not share anything with Toyota and is built in an entirely different factory, people still think Lexus = Toyota.

  • Neo Utopia

    My anti-spam word was Audi, yeah how apt for my opinion. I like the Audi RS4, why, well it’s many things which my desires can’t be explained. I suppose that’s why there is choice in different products for us consumers. If I was fortunate enough to have a drive of this car and the RS4 then I may change my opinion, but until then the Audi has a bit seems to have a bit more kudos than the Lexus. Badge snobbery, may be, so is a Lexus IS over a Honda accord.

  • Daniel W

    as a good a car as it may be……..it has no heritage. personally if i were to blow $130k on a set of wheels id want more than a LEXUS. Merc C63 AMG PLEASE! still agree that M3 is the benchmark though.
    i can see the market for this car tho, 60-70 yr old go fast posers.

    where theres a market, theres money to be made i guess!

  • Alex

    Ferodo wrote -

    “Daddy’s money I’m guessing, because anyone with you poor grasp of English and grammar couldn’t pull a job to buy a Barina.”

    Well that’s ironic.

  • Alex

    Isf Rules, your comment is very hard to read and I tend to agree with Ferodo; how can somebody who’s writing is as poor as yours work up to owning a $130,000 car?
    Still, I’m glad your happy with your purchase. You don’t need to defend the car though, I don’t think anybody here thinks its a bad car as such, we just believe that the competition is better. Especially the M3, what do you mean it has no torque? The M3 is a better drive than this, no doubt about it.
    Finally, you think the M3 is ugly and not this? Um, OK then. You have looked at it haven’t you? Oh well, each to their own.

  • Camski

    Agree with Alborz, the noise is truly impressive. What makes it more impressive is that it comes from the engine bay, not just the exhaust. I like to compare it to the RS4 and James May’s (TGUK) description of the RS4 “sonorous – a tribute to Pavaroti”.

    M3 – There’s little that can be debated about this car.

    RS4 – Aging gracefully, still looks the part that’s for sure. AWD does give you a certain amount of reassurance when you’re trying to put power down and plow out of an apex.

    C63 – I may be biased (you can guess why) but for general appeal, this is it. It’s got that big thumpy big displacement V8 exhaust note to match it’s crazy power delivery. The look at me factor is all in the exhaust which is quite something to the ear when you hear one plumetting towards the first corner at 7000rpm. ECU reflash puts it up around the 400+KW mark as well, a touch above it’s non-de-tuned brothers.

    R35 GT-R – Yes this is the obvious track choice (duh… =D), this thing is just in a different league to the above cars, you dont even have to drive it to realise this. As a passenger, this thing is so glued to the road round bends it could do your back in. Mind you though, bloody hell it rides hard (and no, you don’t drive it stock ;) ).

    Still, if you have any one of these, your biggest concern isn’t losing to the other, it’s where to park it at Westfield or whether or not you want to leave it down that dark street at Bankstown =P

  • Eddie

    Once again, Realcars is reborn at the sight of a Lexus or Toyota title via Ctrl+F. Mindless brand bashing – take it elsewhere mate.

    I think the IS-F is lagging the competition but it will will ensure that this segment remains competitive which is only a good thing.

  • isf rules

    “alex” when i drove the m3 4door it does not have the same torque band that the lexus isf & amg has both lexus and benz are awsome to drive the bmw lacks that sheer grunt factor! and a large number of journalists agree the 4door m3 is ugly and not in keeping with the 2door m3 which is a lot better looking car, in my opinion in this segment its isf 1st. amg63 2nd. m3 3rd. and before i decided on the lexus i took the lot for a good drive, i never looked at the audi rs4 its way to out dated!

  • Damian

    “I will go out on a limb here and say I WOULD HAVE THE W427 over this,GO ahead laugh,but who would be laughing in 10years time???”

    What makes you think your W427 will last 10 years? Your glorified taxi will start falling apart in 2 years…

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au OSU811

    I agree with Karl the M3 sedan IS a better car, but only with the PROPER 6 SPEED MANUAL GEARBOX, with the optional smg they would be pretty line ball for me, but as I would never buy an auto no matter how good, its the Manual M3 all the way for me, IMO.

  • HAL

    Alex, although some of the time you do come across as being a little, shall we say, pompous, I also have to admit that you do actually make a lot of sense in most of your comments.

    And well spotted with the Ferodo comment, how ironic indeed.

  • Neo Utopia

    Can someone please tell me why a person can missspell the word “too” and be able to afford a $130,000 car?

  • Golfschwein

    Good point there, Neo Utopia. Although, it might have been a slip on the keyboard, like “Missspell”.

    Speaking of whom, how is she these days? :)

  • Neo Utopia

    Yeah sorry for that, it’s pretty hard to try and type on a phone while on the buss when the buss driver is driving like he stole it!

  • Neo Utopia

    I do think though that this car looks sooooo much better than the old lexuses. Gee, three posts from me on this article, I must be bored after a quite day at work, when will this economy pick up?

  • Shak

    Neo Utopia this isnt twitter where you can just post complete garbage. If you got something to say about the car, then say it, if not no one wants to know about your working life.

  • figjam

    Great Car, Great Write Up “ALBORZ” This Is a Winner Over The Overrated M3 In My Books! Best 4 Door High Performance Car Of 2009! ANTI-SPAM BMWM3 HA! HA!

  • figjam

    “Neo Utopia” go away and play somewhere else,and what model push bike do you own?

  • Shawn

    It’s just a Toyota in fancy clothes…I would go for an equivalent MERC or BMW anyday. And why would you spend $130,000 when for a little more you can get C63 AMG or a M3.

    Also I never really liked the interior or exterior design of this car.

  • Camski

    The funny thing about all this is the assumption, that, one can afford an extra “10%” of a cars value, given that, what is $13,000 to someone who can afford $129,000?

    10% of a cars price is huge (the difference between $129,000 and $143,000 – IS F, C63, respectively). Let me put this into perspective, a Kia Cerato (entry level) is about $20,000. 10% is quite obviously, $2,000 and so that brings us to $22,000. Do you have an idea how much a) $2,000 is and b) how hard you have to work to bargain a cars price by even an insignifican sounding figure of but 1% (or $200)?

    If a car is in high demand (M3, C63 – IS F included), good luck getting anything off it, second hand ones sell for above RRP. This is where the IS F plays it’s major trump card, price. $13,000 is a huge saving for someone who’s going to be using this as a daily driver but want’s something more than a HSV Senator. Like has been said, there’s a good chance they’re leased anyway but do consider that, $13,000 is a substantial figure and that’s money that could be better spent elsewhere.

  • charles

    I Agree Shawn, I don`t like the style of this car either, because it has no style. There is no doubting they can build a good reliable car but they have absolutely no sense of style and seriously I can`t name one Lexus that is desirable. Seriously guys when was the last time you looked at a Lexus and went whoaaaa , yeah I`m guessing never.

  • figjam

    “CHARLIE” there’s only one thing on this site that has no style and there’s no way it’s the lexus isf buddy!

  • Neo Utopia

    Ok I appologize to readers for briefly digressing off topic, but for a person to tell me to go away will definitely be reported to the moderator of this website, I don’t take bullying from no one, all bullyers should be reprimanded!

  • figjam

    “neo utopia” it just seems to me that you have very little knowledge of this vehicle, there is no bullying in that! read up on the vehicle first so as you can add an educiated comment!

  • http://www.musclebeach.com.au Mike

    You cant knock a great car, the ISF is just that, I get tired of reading comments from people that somehow must seem to believe, that unless the car can perform like a rocket on rails, but feel like your lying under the summer pacific skys sipping on champane…then the car is not much chop. I would fall in love with either the m3 or the ISF, no doubts there, they are both extrodinary.

  • http://facebook.com/Lukasamba Lukasamba

    Very very nice car :P

  • Mickyv

    It seems a lot of comments are from uninformed people that have a biased against Japanese cars and more importantly the relationship that Lexus has to Toyota. I have had a BMW 335i convertible for the past four years and absolutely loved every minute.
    My car was written off and I was in the market for a new car. After driving the M3, the S5, the RS5, the C63 and the ISF, it was the ISF that I was saddest when giving the keys back. Don’t get me wrong the others were all great cars and I had all of them for at least two days each but the ISF was the best car for day to day driving as well as hard driving and don’t get me started on that wonderful note that kicks in just before 4000 revs. I pick my new ISF up at lunch time today….can’t wait! And BTW every option was included in the price….by far best seats as well.