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	<title>Comments on: BMW Pushing For Driver Training</title>
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		<title>By: adil</title>
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		<dc:creator>adil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>verry good and good presentation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>verry good and good presentation</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 05:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the stats also show that increased regulations aernt working either, they previously upped the hours for Ls, made both greens and reds tests harder, banned high performance cars etc in NSW... yet the road toll has shown no downward trend, in fact its been up and down and all about!

As for driving course, I couldnt be bothered looking at that link just yet, but Id be interested in how they determined it had no effect... its a rather ambiguous thing. And as I just highlighted, the stats indicate more restrictions aernt working yet they went with that, I dont think they didnt include driver training courses because of the research... they didnt include it becuause it would almost certainly cost them money. The restrictions they have brough in on ther other hand dont cost them jack, if anything earning them more through increased failure rates, fines from passenger restrictions, costs in having to reinstate your license after losing it from one speeding offence etc etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the stats also show that increased regulations aernt working either, they previously upped the hours for Ls, made both greens and reds tests harder, banned high performance cars etc in NSW&#8230; yet the road toll has shown no downward trend, in fact its been up and down and all about!</p>
<p>As for driving course, I couldnt be bothered looking at that link just yet, but Id be interested in how they determined it had no effect&#8230; its a rather ambiguous thing. And as I just highlighted, the stats indicate more restrictions aernt working yet they went with that, I dont think they didnt include driver training courses because of the research&#8230; they didnt include it becuause it would almost certainly cost them money. The restrictions they have brough in on ther other hand dont cost them jack, if anything earning them more through increased failure rates, fines from passenger restrictions, costs in having to reinstate your license after losing it from one speeding offence etc etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is plenty of research internationally that shows that post-licence driver training does not reduce accidents.  Would seem to intuitively do so, but the studies consistently show it does not work.  More research is needed.  There is a summary of the research at this link: www.qoh.com.au/resources/newsletters/driver-training

Need to develop new techniques. There are some links to the research articles in this area. I suspect this is why to authorities are not acting.  Certainly graduated licensing programs do work and Australia is well ahead of many countries in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of research internationally that shows that post-licence driver training does not reduce accidents.  Would seem to intuitively do so, but the studies consistently show it does not work.  More research is needed.  There is a summary of the research at this link: <a href="http://www.qoh.com.au/resources/newsletters/driver-training" rel="nofollow">http://www.qoh.com.au/resource.....r-training</a></p>
<p>Need to develop new techniques. There are some links to the research articles in this area. I suspect this is why to authorities are not acting.  Certainly graduated licensing programs do work and Australia is well ahead of many countries in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need to own a BMW to register for BMW Driver Training, but if you bought a BMW under the Employee Preferential Pricing (EPP) plan, you&#039;re entitled to your first course at a discounted rate of ~$150 (usually $700-$800). The website is at http://www.bmwdrivertraining.com.au/ - I&#039;ve booked mine, and i&#039;m looking forward to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to own a BMW to register for BMW Driver Training, but if you bought a BMW under the Employee Preferential Pricing (EPP) plan, you&#8217;re entitled to your first course at a discounted rate of ~$150 (usually $700-$800). The website is at <a href="http://www.bmwdrivertraining.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmwdrivertraining.com.au/</a> &#8211; I&#8217;ve booked mine, and i&#8217;m looking forward to it!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 11:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re crapping on about road safety all that much. It&#039;s automotive news, so it&#039;s all relevant.

It&#039;s a pity that third parties must offer driver training of any kind rather then the Governemtn enforcing it.

Though they will happily make motorcyclists go and learn to defensively ride a bike first before getting their license, or even allowing them to take the test.

pipsqeek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re crapping on about road safety all that much. It&#8217;s automotive news, so it&#8217;s all relevant.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity that third parties must offer driver training of any kind rather then the Governemtn enforcing it.</p>
<p>Though they will happily make motorcyclists go and learn to defensively ride a bike first before getting their license, or even allowing them to take the test.</p>
<p>pipsqeek</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 10:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Driver training should be enforced at all levels,
BMW driver training, by all accounts, is fantastic, but there is of course the limitation, that you have to own a BMW to participate (i believe) or otherwise its rather costly.

I think its time state governments enforce driver training for ALL drivers, even ones currently on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driver training should be enforced at all levels,<br />
BMW driver training, by all accounts, is fantastic, but there is of course the limitation, that you have to own a BMW to participate (i believe) or otherwise its rather costly.</p>
<p>I think its time state governments enforce driver training for ALL drivers, even ones currently on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 09:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to do the course with the M3s {strangely enough} for my 40th but they don&#039;t come over to Perth a whole lot so you had to do it QLD then I think. I think there a great idea , and especially with performance cars you get to learn a lot about your cars and your own capabilities. Not sure if anyone else does it but FPV gave a free day driving course with your own car when you first purchased them . Hubby had lots of fun in his. Not much left of the tyres at the end of the day and the brembos and the standard brakes on the GT&#039;s under normal stopping conditions were the same,only around the track were the Brembos an advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to do the course with the M3s {strangely enough} for my 40th but they don&#8217;t come over to Perth a whole lot so you had to do it QLD then I think. I think there a great idea , and especially with performance cars you get to learn a lot about your cars and your own capabilities. Not sure if anyone else does it but FPV gave a free day driving course with your own car when you first purchased them . Hubby had lots of fun in his. Not much left of the tyres at the end of the day and the brembos and the standard brakes on the GT&#8217;s under normal stopping conditions were the same,only around the track were the Brembos an advantage.</p>
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