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		<title>By: Future Man</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/28162/expert-believes-australian-car-industry-wont-survive/#comment-128035</link>
		<dc:creator>Future Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theres too many Multi&#039;s on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theres too many Multi&#8217;s on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: eveready</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/28162/expert-believes-australian-car-industry-wont-survive/#comment-127998</link>
		<dc:creator>eveready</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure the bulk of the supplier base are foreign owned - it doesn&#039;t detract from the fact they employ thousands and thousands of engineers, logistics, administration and process workers, let alone the amount of expenditure they do on R&amp;D. Vehicle manufacturing is one of the last major value add industries left in Australia... 

Most industries are dominated by foreign owned companies anyway, be it IT or financial services - it doesnt mean they are any less important to the health of Australia&#039;s economy.

btw - the BA/BF faclon was reported to contain around 80% local content - although the FG is not that high - it is nowhere near as low as 30%... I think you will find 50-60% is a more accurate figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure the bulk of the supplier base are foreign owned &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t detract from the fact they employ thousands and thousands of engineers, logistics, administration and process workers, let alone the amount of expenditure they do on R&amp;D. Vehicle manufacturing is one of the last major value add industries left in Australia&#8230; </p>
<p>Most industries are dominated by foreign owned companies anyway, be it IT or financial services &#8211; it doesnt mean they are any less important to the health of Australia&#8217;s economy.</p>
<p>btw &#8211; the BA/BF faclon was reported to contain around 80% local content &#8211; although the FG is not that high &#8211; it is nowhere near as low as 30%&#8230; I think you will find 50-60% is a more accurate figure.</p>
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		<title>By: the fact</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/28162/expert-believes-australian-car-industry-wont-survive/#comment-127993</link>
		<dc:creator>the fact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well..this is from drive.With previous Commodores, Holden boasted about the local content of its cars. Now it refuses to divulge details. Taillights from Korea, fuel injectors from China, wheels made in Thailand, body-moulding tools made in Japan. And that&#039;s just a taste.

&quot;We don&#039;t discuss that level of detail,&quot; is the stern response from Holden&#039;s spokesman Jason Laird. &quot;We don&#039;t discuss local content&quot;.Every model Commodore - from the VB launched in 1978 to the VT of 1997 - started life as a European Opel sedan that was heavily reworked to become an Australian Commodore.wondering how you could you  spent 1 billion for so called a new VE.(wasn&#039;t that all new)..with carried over nosiy imported engine,transmission.of course...we won&#039;t know how much tax payers in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well..this is from drive.With previous Commodores, Holden boasted about the local content of its cars. Now it refuses to divulge details. Taillights from Korea, fuel injectors from China, wheels made in Thailand, body-moulding tools made in Japan. And that&#8217;s just a taste.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t discuss that level of detail,&#8221; is the stern response from Holden&#8217;s spokesman Jason Laird. &#8220;We don&#8217;t discuss local content&#8221;.Every model Commodore &#8211; from the VB launched in 1978 to the VT of 1997 &#8211; started life as a European Opel sedan that was heavily reworked to become an Australian Commodore.wondering how you could you  spent 1 billion for so called a new VE.(wasn&#8217;t that all new)..with carried over nosiy imported engine,transmission.of course&#8230;we won&#8217;t know how much tax payers in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fact - here is an exerpt form an article about the VE from Goauto.com.au - its from an interview with former Holden CEo after the launce of the VE..... pay particular attention to the 2nd paragraph

GM HOLDEN maintains the VE Commodore is the most Australian car it has ever built after developing the vehicle architecture and designing and engineering the car from a &quot;clean sheet&quot;.

Acknowledging that about A THIRD [that&#039;s 33%] of the car’s components, including big-ticket and big-budget items such as engines and transmissions, ARE SOURCED FROM OVERSEAS. GM Holden Managing Director Denny Mooney said: &quot;This car was 100 per cent designed here. 

Did you get that 1/3 of the cars components comes from overseas.. which means approximately two thirds [or 66%] of the cars components come from local suppliers; some of which may be foreign owned but have factories in Australia making various parts for the local car companies.. Not just Holden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fact &#8211; here is an exerpt form an article about the VE from Goauto.com.au &#8211; its from an interview with former Holden CEo after the launce of the VE&#8230;.. pay particular attention to the 2nd paragraph</p>
<p>GM HOLDEN maintains the VE Commodore is the most Australian car it has ever built after developing the vehicle architecture and designing and engineering the car from a &#8220;clean sheet&#8221;.</p>
<p>Acknowledging that about A THIRD [that's 33%] of the car’s components, including big-ticket and big-budget items such as engines and transmissions, ARE SOURCED FROM OVERSEAS. GM Holden Managing Director Denny Mooney said: &#8220;This car was 100 per cent designed here. </p>
<p>Did you get that 1/3 of the cars components comes from overseas.. which means approximately two thirds [or 66%] of the cars components come from local suppliers; some of which may be foreign owned but have factories in Australia making various parts for the local car companies.. Not just Holden</p>
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		<title>By: the fact</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/28162/expert-believes-australian-car-industry-wont-survive/#comment-127978</link>
		<dc:creator>the fact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am not saying 30%.i am saying less than 30%.i am not guessing just ask the commodore magazine(wheels magazine)or find other reviews of that dinosaur a few year back.do not just put your face in the sand.just face the reality.is it so hard to accept the true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am not saying 30%.i am saying less than 30%.i am not guessing just ask the commodore magazine(wheels magazine)or find other reviews of that dinosaur a few year back.do not just put your face in the sand.just face the reality.is it so hard to accept the true?</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fact; your statement that the Local content of both the Falcon and Commodore is just 30% is purely a guesstimation that you have made to try and support your arguement 

because there used to be a Federal Government Policy whereby the locally made cars had to be made up of at least 80% locally made parts/components as well as list the names of their suppliers - but that policy no longer exists

Therefore; Holden don&#039;t release what % of their cars is made up of Locally produced parts/components nor do they list the suppliers names.. and as far as I am aware neither do Ford or Toyota they are quite coy about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fact; your statement that the Local content of both the Falcon and Commodore is just 30% is purely a guesstimation that you have made to try and support your arguement </p>
<p>because there used to be a Federal Government Policy whereby the locally made cars had to be made up of at least 80% locally made parts/components as well as list the names of their suppliers &#8211; but that policy no longer exists</p>
<p>Therefore; Holden don&#8217;t release what % of their cars is made up of Locally produced parts/components nor do they list the suppliers names.. and as far as I am aware neither do Ford or Toyota they are quite coy about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luvalambi .............turn the caps lock off . When have I ever needed anyone to speak for me ? 

I dont remember even having a conversation with you anyway on this subject, so take your own advice perhaps ;)

What two wrongs are you referring too ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luvalambi &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.turn the caps lock off . When have I ever needed anyone to speak for me ? </p>
<p>I dont remember even having a conversation with you anyway on this subject, so take your own advice perhaps <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What two wrongs are you referring too ?</p>
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		<title>By: the fact</title>
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		<dc:creator>the fact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL....try to say that to these 2 dinosaurs then..why local contents still less than 30% if we have so much local suppliers here and the commodore is the least local contents of any cars made here.how many times we heard on news that car factories have to shut down because of there a strike in bolts or nuts suppliers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL&#8230;.try to say that to these 2 dinosaurs then..why local contents still less than 30% if we have so much local suppliers here and the commodore is the least local contents of any cars made here.how many times we heard on news that car factories have to shut down because of there a strike in bolts or nuts suppliers?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eveready,
All foreign owned!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eveready,<br />
All foreign owned!!</p>
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		<title>By: eveready</title>
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		<dc:creator>eveready</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have many local suppliers?  

Try saying that to Dana, Continental, Sumitomo, Autoliv, Venture, Futuris, Plexicor, Bosch, PBR, Sckefenacher to name a few - building everything from IRS modules to stamping tools, Airbags, brakes, interior and exterior mouldings and trim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have many local suppliers?  </p>
<p>Try saying that to Dana, Continental, Sumitomo, Autoliv, Venture, Futuris, Plexicor, Bosch, PBR, Sckefenacher to name a few &#8211; building everything from IRS modules to stamping tools, Airbags, brakes, interior and exterior mouldings and trim&#8230;</p>
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