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		<title>By: Alan Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HSV I just don&#039;t want one.</description>
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		<title>By: dreamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you drive the car just 5000km/year, in 20years time that&#039;d be 100000km on the odometer. would anyone pay a large sum of money for a so-call collectible? there are more better ways to invest $150000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you drive the car just 5000km/year, in 20years time that&#8217;d be 100000km on the odometer. would anyone pay a large sum of money for a so-call collectible? there are more better ways to invest $150000.</p>
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		<title>By: not so blind</title>
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		<dc:creator>not so blind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A COMMODORE FOR $150,000?oh what a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A COMMODORE FOR $150,000?oh what a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, as this car is killed off with barely a quarter of the scheduled run built due to lack of buyer acceptance and HSV’s greed, it will be forever known as the failed HSV that didn’t sell, and the Australian public can proudly hold their heads up and say, “we Walkinshawed Walkinshaw!” Millatime 
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Well said, you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head exactly on the sweet spot.   What a beautiful comment, you should print that out, frame it and hang it on the wall.

Anyone with half a brain after a serious Australian performance car at a fair and reasonable price is buying an F6 or regular Clubsport and doing some work on it themselves, mind you with the new FG F6 you hardly need bother modifying it, Im quite happy to get one and keep it stock, those things are absolute weapons.

Note to Walkingshaw, grossly excessive greed will land you in trouble, many of the Wall street bankers have learned this and if the lack of market accpetance for your grossly over-priced baby has cost you a financial penalty / (loss), my heart bleeds for you, NOT !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, as this car is killed off with barely a quarter of the scheduled run built due to lack of buyer acceptance and HSV’s greed, it will be forever known as the failed HSV that didn’t sell, and the Australian public can proudly hold their heads up and say, “we Walkinshawed Walkinshaw!” Millatime<br />
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Well said, you&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head exactly on the sweet spot.   What a beautiful comment, you should print that out, frame it and hang it on the wall.</p>
<p>Anyone with half a brain after a serious Australian performance car at a fair and reasonable price is buying an F6 or regular Clubsport and doing some work on it themselves, mind you with the new FG F6 you hardly need bother modifying it, Im quite happy to get one and keep it stock, those things are absolute weapons.</p>
<p>Note to Walkingshaw, grossly excessive greed will land you in trouble, many of the Wall street bankers have learned this and if the lack of market accpetance for your grossly over-priced baby has cost you a financial penalty / (loss), my heart bleeds for you, NOT !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car is 5 years too late and $30,000 too expensive,if they made it 5 years ago it would have sold like hot cakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car is 5 years too late and $30,000 too expensive,if they made it 5 years ago it would have sold like hot cakes.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveH</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27758/last-chance-to-order-an-hsv-w427/comment-page-2/#comment-127179</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hummerbug, I think people have a right to be precious when they are spending $150K on something like this.

HSV should have stripped all of the weight out of this car and made it a barely disguised race car for the road, in the spirit of the old GTHO&#039;s and A9X Torana&#039;s etc.  Strip a few hundred kilo&#039;s out of it and see how fast it would be then.  Also get rid of that red interior.  If they did want to compare it to the M5&#039;s and AMG&#039;s of this world, why give it such a tacky interior?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummerbug, I think people have a right to be precious when they are spending $150K on something like this.</p>
<p>HSV should have stripped all of the weight out of this car and made it a barely disguised race car for the road, in the spirit of the old GTHO&#8217;s and A9X Torana&#8217;s etc.  Strip a few hundred kilo&#8217;s out of it and see how fast it would be then.  Also get rid of that red interior.  If they did want to compare it to the M5&#8217;s and AMG&#8217;s of this world, why give it such a tacky interior?</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha nice play on words hun.

Wonder where the break even point was on the project ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha nice play on words hun.</p>
<p>Wonder where the break even point was on the project ?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27758/last-chance-to-order-an-hsv-w427/comment-page-2/#comment-127158</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be getting close to being only &quot;Australia fatest specially hand built car&quot; then?

But then again I always thought that this was a bit of a &quot;hand  job&quot; anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be getting close to being only &#8220;Australia fatest specially hand built car&#8221; then?</p>
<p>But then again I always thought that this was a bit of a &#8220;hand  job&#8221; anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27758/last-chance-to-order-an-hsv-w427/comment-page-2/#comment-127154</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>120 Bret............</description>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27758/last-chance-to-order-an-hsv-w427/comment-page-2/#comment-127145</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have missed it but how many will actually be built now.
Initially it was 427, then 200. Now they&#039;re closing the books on the 200 early.
How many have actually sold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have missed it but how many will actually be built now.<br />
Initially it was 427, then 200. Now they&#8217;re closing the books on the 200 early.<br />
How many have actually sold?</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quite like the idea of stuffing a 7 litre engine into anything at all really, nothing wrong with that at all. More grunt equals more tyre smoke - perfect.

However, where it all goes horribly wrong and just a little bit pear shaped is all the attached hype, rubbish, nonsense, and ridiculous grand standing that inevitably comes along with it.

By anyones and everyones definition a supercar is a supercar, and that means a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani or the mighty Ascari, Koenigsegg and Bugatti. These are SUPERCARS, low slung two seat mid engined monstrously powerful exotics.

Which the W427 isn’t.

It’s only a Commodore with a big engine.

So forget all this supercar rubbish.

What it is though is a massively, massively overpriced car.
It’s double the price of any other HSV. And for twice the money it should be a LOT lighter, meaner, more distinct looking and definately quicker..

In a final act of desperation it&#039;s now not being marketed on it&#039;s merits as a performance car, but as an investment!

Whatever you think of Skaife, it is widely believed Walkinshaw shafted him, hence the saying &quot;you&#039;ve been Walkinshawed.&quot; Holden and HSV tried to &quot;Walkinshaw&quot; the Australian public with the pricing on this car, including raising the asking in a cynical money grab after initially setting the price. Now, as this car is killed off with barely a quarter of the scheduled run built due to lack of buyer acceptance and HSV&#039;s greed, it will be forever known as the failed HSV that didn&#039;t sell, and the Australian public can proudly hold their heads up and say, &quot;we Walkinshawed Walkinshaw!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quite like the idea of stuffing a 7 litre engine into anything at all really, nothing wrong with that at all. More grunt equals more tyre smoke &#8211; perfect.</p>
<p>However, where it all goes horribly wrong and just a little bit pear shaped is all the attached hype, rubbish, nonsense, and ridiculous grand standing that inevitably comes along with it.</p>
<p>By anyones and everyones definition a supercar is a supercar, and that means a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani or the mighty Ascari, Koenigsegg and Bugatti. These are SUPERCARS, low slung two seat mid engined monstrously powerful exotics.</p>
<p>Which the W427 isn’t.</p>
<p>It’s only a Commodore with a big engine.</p>
<p>So forget all this supercar rubbish.</p>
<p>What it is though is a massively, massively overpriced car.<br />
It’s double the price of any other HSV. And for twice the money it should be a LOT lighter, meaner, more distinct looking and definately quicker..</p>
<p>In a final act of desperation it&#8217;s now not being marketed on it&#8217;s merits as a performance car, but as an investment!</p>
<p>Whatever you think of Skaife, it is widely believed Walkinshaw shafted him, hence the saying &#8220;you&#8217;ve been Walkinshawed.&#8221; Holden and HSV tried to &#8220;Walkinshaw&#8221; the Australian public with the pricing on this car, including raising the asking in a cynical money grab after initially setting the price. Now, as this car is killed off with barely a quarter of the scheduled run built due to lack of buyer acceptance and HSV&#8217;s greed, it will be forever known as the failed HSV that didn&#8217;t sell, and the Australian public can proudly hold their heads up and say, &#8220;we Walkinshawed Walkinshaw!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hummerbug</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27758/last-chance-to-order-an-hsv-w427/comment-page-2/#comment-127122</link>
		<dc:creator>Hummerbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No sat nav ? Geez Realist you might have to pre plan your trip? Its not hard grab a melways ... People these days are getting very very precious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No sat nav ? Geez Realist you might have to pre plan your trip? Its not hard grab a melways &#8230; People these days are getting very very precious</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27758/last-chance-to-order-an-hsv-w427/comment-page-2/#comment-127121</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about we just leave it at that Realist,we all know you have no appreciation for Holden and Ford so why would you think this car has any appeal ?

Oh and yes you can change the interior colour ,boring black more you ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about we just leave it at that Realist,we all know you have no appreciation for Holden and Ford so why would you think this car has any appeal ?</p>
<p>Oh and yes you can change the interior colour ,boring black more you ;)</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bavarian Missile (.)(.) Says: 
April 8th, 2009 at 11:51 am 
&quot;Realist ,comparing those that buy M3’s and C63’s, even IS-F’s AROUND the world is a silly statement .&quot;

You starting to lose it BM. I was speaking about the Australian market.

I read this big mac mobile doesn&#039;t even have satellite navigation - please confirm? Can you change the leather from bogan red to say something a little more understated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bavarian Missile (.)(.) Says:<br />
April 8th, 2009 at 11:51 am<br />
&#8220;Realist ,comparing those that buy M3’s and C63’s, even IS-F’s AROUND the world is a silly statement .&#8221;</p>
<p>You starting to lose it BM. I was speaking about the Australian market.</p>
<p>I read this big mac mobile doesn&#8217;t even have satellite navigation &#8211; please confirm? Can you change the leather from bogan red to say something a little more understated?</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confused

One last piece of advice; if you go for the Passat you will have absolutely no street cred, and people will think you are gay....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused</p>
<p>One last piece of advice; if you go for the Passat you will have absolutely no street cred, and people will think you are gay&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frenchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading all these comments the reason why the 427 didn,t sell what was originally intended is simply price.
Like it or hate it, the price enters peoples minds the rest is just BS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading all these comments the reason why the 427 didn,t sell what was originally intended is simply price.<br />
Like it or hate it, the price enters peoples minds the rest is just BS!</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think The main reason for HSV not being able to find 227 more people to buy the 427 is because of its name.... it lacks heritage.. 
Given that it&#039;s got a 7.0 litre engine maybe they should have called it the SL/R 7000?

Funny thing is a couple of years ago HSV built a Monaro with a similar hand built enginel upgraded brakes etc like the W427.. it was called the Monaro 427
HSV received way more advanced orders than what they were expecting.
  
However; in the end HSV decided not to build the Monaro 427 [which was going to be a limited edition of 427] because they said it would have cost approx $150-200K which they thought was a bit too much for most car entusiasts.

Yet at an Auction last year one of the 2 prototypes of the Monaro 427 sold for over $800K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think The main reason for HSV not being able to find 227 more people to buy the 427 is because of its name&#8230;. it lacks heritage..<br />
Given that it&#8217;s got a 7.0 litre engine maybe they should have called it the SL/R 7000?</p>
<p>Funny thing is a couple of years ago HSV built a Monaro with a similar hand built enginel upgraded brakes etc like the W427.. it was called the Monaro 427<br />
HSV received way more advanced orders than what they were expecting.</p>
<p>However; in the end HSV decided not to build the Monaro 427 [which was going to be a limited edition of 427] because they said it would have cost approx $150-200K which they thought was a bit too much for most car entusiasts.</p>
<p>Yet at an Auction last year one of the 2 prototypes of the Monaro 427 sold for over $800K</p>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fair enough, thanks guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fair enough, thanks guys.</p>
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		<title>By: -_-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-_-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is next generation HSV will use similar 7L V8
So no point pay $ 150 000... just few years time it will be
half price</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is next generation HSV will use similar 7L V8<br />
So no point pay $ 150 000&#8230; just few years time it will be<br />
half price</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confused

Just as Andrew M says, not that much haggling required :-)</description>
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<p>Just as Andrew M says, not that much haggling required :-)</p>
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