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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-150146</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to u guys that has a c63...how much discount did u get?? thax in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to u guys that has a c63&#8230;how much discount did u get?? thax in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-148940</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was typical person taking part in performance Holden Vs Ford discussions in the past, displaying the usual negative justification of owning the BMW/Merc performance vehicles. Having had opportunity to get frequent exposure to European vehicles through European contacts in Germany, namely BMW and Mercedes products, I have certainly changed my mind and consequently became an owner of a BMW performance vehicle. One has to appreciate vehicle technicalities and handling precision. I think the best demonstration of vehicle drive precision is to push a vehicle on an Australian road on a dark rainy night. The preciseness of the handling in the Euro vehicle will confidently allow a lot higher relaxed cruise speed. i.e. if the speedo was blanked off, a driver would be driving at consistently higher speeds due to the better feel of the vehicle. This same idea of a blanked off speedo does apply during day time also, where typical drivers will drive at higher speeds simply because the vehicle feels better. Of course the high price of the Euro vehicles cannot be justified by those who do not have the financial means, and most GM/Ford owners are not presented with the opportunity for a lengthy drive of a performance Euro vehicle. Also a recommendation for anyone who visits Germany to go to the BMW Nurburg Ring facility and go for a drive with a test driver in M3/M5, it will be an experience one will appreciate and remember for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was typical person taking part in performance Holden Vs Ford discussions in the past, displaying the usual negative justification of owning the BMW/Merc performance vehicles. Having had opportunity to get frequent exposure to European vehicles through European contacts in Germany, namely BMW and Mercedes products, I have certainly changed my mind and consequently became an owner of a BMW performance vehicle. One has to appreciate vehicle technicalities and handling precision. I think the best demonstration of vehicle drive precision is to push a vehicle on an Australian road on a dark rainy night. The preciseness of the handling in the Euro vehicle will confidently allow a lot higher relaxed cruise speed. i.e. if the speedo was blanked off, a driver would be driving at consistently higher speeds due to the better feel of the vehicle. This same idea of a blanked off speedo does apply during day time also, where typical drivers will drive at higher speeds simply because the vehicle feels better. Of course the high price of the Euro vehicles cannot be justified by those who do not have the financial means, and most GM/Ford owners are not presented with the opportunity for a lengthy drive of a performance Euro vehicle. Also a recommendation for anyone who visits Germany to go to the BMW Nurburg Ring facility and go for a drive with a test driver in M3/M5, it will be an experience one will appreciate and remember for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-147110</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the great things about this car is I bet that the manual gearbox would be mostly boring in big-engined low-revving cars as you could just use any gear and speed up. Reading a review of the Zonda they mentioned you could easily accelerate from 60 in 6th or you could downshift but deliberately mostly. This BMW small V8 is perfect for a manual gearbox whilst I am sure it still provides sufficent torque low down you would no doubt need to work the gearbox a little and according to the review that would be more enjoyable than anything else. If your going to have lots of torque across the rev band, may as well have a 4 speed auto, let it do the shifting and it wouldn&#039;t need many gears anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the great things about this car is I bet that the manual gearbox would be mostly boring in big-engined low-revving cars as you could just use any gear and speed up. Reading a review of the Zonda they mentioned you could easily accelerate from 60 in 6th or you could downshift but deliberately mostly. This BMW small V8 is perfect for a manual gearbox whilst I am sure it still provides sufficent torque low down you would no doubt need to work the gearbox a little and according to the review that would be more enjoyable than anything else. If your going to have lots of torque across the rev band, may as well have a 4 speed auto, let it do the shifting and it wouldn&#8217;t need many gears anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-131656</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M3 is a nice car, but &quot;everyday&quot;, dunno bout that, everyday i reckon needs 4 doors, so it would have to be a 4 door M3 or a C63. 

I hope my lotto ticket wins 2moro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M3 is a nice car, but &#8220;everyday&#8221;, dunno bout that, everyday i reckon needs 4 doors, so it would have to be a 4 door M3 or a C63. </p>
<p>I hope my lotto ticket wins 2moro.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GTR sure has the performance and road presence. If that is what you want, there is NOTHING better for the money. It is an awesome pice of kit. The M3 on the other hand, other than the 1st generation, has been more of a &quot;Q&quot; car. It&#039;s looks don&#039;t shout out performance other than a couple of subtle bulges and vents etc. Some people like that and don&#039;t want to attract too much attention. BMW market the M3 as more of an &quot;everyday&quot;, practicle high performance car. With the M3 you only need the one car to take the family on holidays etc or go for a hard fang at your local track. If you have bucket loads of money for a &quot;weekend&quot; car, the GTR is the way to go as you would buy another car for everyday use. But if you could only have one car, for me it would be the M3. That is what the M3 has over the GTR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GTR sure has the performance and road presence. If that is what you want, there is NOTHING better for the money. It is an awesome pice of kit. The M3 on the other hand, other than the 1st generation, has been more of a &#8220;Q&#8221; car. It&#8217;s looks don&#8217;t shout out performance other than a couple of subtle bulges and vents etc. Some people like that and don&#8217;t want to attract too much attention. BMW market the M3 as more of an &#8220;everyday&#8221;, practicle high performance car. With the M3 you only need the one car to take the family on holidays etc or go for a hard fang at your local track. If you have bucket loads of money for a &#8220;weekend&#8221; car, the GTR is the way to go as you would buy another car for everyday use. But if you could only have one car, for me it would be the M3. That is what the M3 has over the GTR.</p>
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		<title>By: Hayzel</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-129863</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With that much money I would no doubt will buy a nissan GTR instead. Not sure about the passenger but performance and looks wise GTR wil definitely take the cake. You get respects on the road too where the GTR will turn heads. M3 don&#039;t have the same presence on the road. With 100k plus I definitely want presence on the road...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With that much money I would no doubt will buy a nissan GTR instead. Not sure about the passenger but performance and looks wise GTR wil definitely take the cake. You get respects on the road too where the GTR will turn heads. M3 don&#8217;t have the same presence on the road. With 100k plus I definitely want presence on the road&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: figjam</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-129505</link>
		<dc:creator>figjam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have driven all 3 in this class the m3, lexus isf &amp; the AMG c63 and from a drivers point of view the m3 by a whisker, for looks the isf hands down and for straight out power the isf &amp; c63 both are awesome, so depending on what you are going to do with your ride all have great +&#039;s and -&#039;s in my eyes the bmw m3 just over the lexus isf &amp; then the c63 but if its dollars and sheer bang for buck and value for money the lexus isf! but as &quot;camski&quot; said all are bloody great cars and would sit proud in anyone&#039;s driveway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have driven all 3 in this class the m3, lexus isf &amp; the AMG c63 and from a drivers point of view the m3 by a whisker, for looks the isf hands down and for straight out power the isf &amp; c63 both are awesome, so depending on what you are going to do with your ride all have great +&#8217;s and -&#8217;s in my eyes the bmw m3 just over the lexus isf &amp; then the c63 but if its dollars and sheer bang for buck and value for money the lexus isf! but as &#8220;camski&#8221; said all are bloody great cars and would sit proud in anyone&#8217;s driveway</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil666 Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:55 am 
&quot;The problem with a high revving engine is that all 309kw come at over 7000 rpm. Who wants to have to rev it that hard to get maximum power? Just how often are you driving a private track? Who is ever going to rev to 8300 to overtake someone?&quot;

That may be true with Honda VTEC engines Devil666, however this is a BMW engine. BMW engines still have good low rev torque as well. This engine has so much technology and computing power it gives you the best of both worlds. You don&#039;t need to rev the @$%@ out of it to overtake someone because you have a minimum of 340Nm of torque available from just 2000rpm up to well over 6500rpm. That is the same as the maximum torque of the &quot;High Output&quot; V6 in the Commodore. When in a smaller, lighter car with good gearing, it doesn&#039;t take rocket science to work it out. Sure it is not &quot;C63 style&quot; lazy grunt, but you wouldn&#039;t call it a slug either. It is more tractable than you think... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil666 Says:<br />
April 17th, 2009 at 9:55 am<br />
&#8220;The problem with a high revving engine is that all 309kw come at over 7000 rpm. Who wants to have to rev it that hard to get maximum power? Just how often are you driving a private track? Who is ever going to rev to 8300 to overtake someone?&#8221;</p>
<p>That may be true with Honda VTEC engines Devil666, however this is a BMW engine. BMW engines still have good low rev torque as well. This engine has so much technology and computing power it gives you the best of both worlds. You don&#8217;t need to rev the @$%@ out of it to overtake someone because you have a minimum of 340Nm of torque available from just 2000rpm up to well over 6500rpm. That is the same as the maximum torque of the &#8220;High Output&#8221; V6 in the Commodore. When in a smaller, lighter car with good gearing, it doesn&#8217;t take rocket science to work it out. Sure it is not &#8220;C63 style&#8221; lazy grunt, but you wouldn&#8217;t call it a slug either. It is more tractable than you think&#8230; <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When u owned a car in Australia, what sticker do u have to put on the front window?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When u owned a car in Australia, what sticker do u have to put on the front window?</p>
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		<title>By: AussieCars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27307/2009-bmw-m3-review-road-test/#comment-128893</link>
		<dc:creator>AussieCars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coupe looks a hell of alot better IMO. 4 door looks plain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coupe looks a hell of alot better IMO. 4 door looks plain.</p>
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