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2009 Kia Soul Released in Australia

By David Twomey |

Kia has continued its revolution with the launch of the all-new Soul a distinctive new offering that the Korean company says has both Generation Y and the young-at-heart firmly in its sights.

The Kia Soul goes on sale from today and with a starting price of just $20,990 it’s bound to strike the right cord with both young and not-so-young buyers.

The Soul rises through three grades to a top of the range price of $30,890 for the Soul 3. A package that includes a reversing camera, coolly displayed in the rear-view mirror, and a sunroof, costs an additional $2000.

The reversing camera is an Australian first in that it displays in the rear-vision mirror when reverse gear is engaged.

2009 Kia Soul

Soul presents consumers with such a broad selection of styling, comfort and equipment choices, that it redefines the concept of freedom and individuality and creates a new category for the young and young-at-heart.

2009 Kia Soul

The all-new Soul closely follows the concept first shown to the world in 2006. Kia Motors Corporation’s chief design officer, Peter Schreyer, has overseen the evolution of Kia Soul from 2006 concept fantasy to its 2009 production reality.

“Conceived in the US, developed in Korea and fine-tuned in Europe, the Soul will be a breakthrough vehicle for Kia on its journey to be seen as a design-led company and the maker of distinctive cars which consumers aspire to own,” Mr. Schreyer has said about the Soul.

2009 Kia Soul

“Kia Soul is all about creating a car that demonstrates our passion for automotive design, gets Kia talked about the media and the public, and generates an irresistible customer appeal.”

As Kia says the Soul is a brand new urban car packed full of liberating ideas – a car that challenges consumers to ‘free their minds’, to build an emotional bond with their new car and to rethink everything they know about Kia.

2009 Kia Soul

Soul is available with Kia’s refined and ultra-reliable 91kW 1.6-litre petrol and 94kW turbo diesel engines. Both deliver excellent driveability and efficiency, and both are Euro-4 compliant.

The 1.6-litre U2-series CRDi engine was designed and engineered at Kia’s ‘centre of diesel excellence’ in Russelsheim, just outside Frankfurt.

2009 Kia Soul

With 260Nm of torque peaking at just 1900rpm and peak power of 94kW at 4000rpm, the CRDi engine ensures excellent flexibility and open-road performance.

Under the official ADR81/02 combined consumption test, the Soul diesel can achieve up to 5.2 litres per 100kms (manual transmission) and 5.9L/100kms (automatic).

The new all-aluminium 1.6-litre Gamma series petrol engine, seen here in Australia for the first time, develops 91kW at 6300rpm, with a healthy 156 Nm of torque at 4200rpm.

2009 Kia Soul

The standard gearbox in Soul is a five-speed manual based on that used in the ground-breaking Kia cee’d but with revised ratios for the 1.6-litre petrol model.

The optional four-speed automatic gearbox is an ‘intelligent’ system governed by an electronic controller which monitors several parameters to ensure smooth shifting at all times, taking into account individual driving styles and adapting as it ‘learns’.

As Kia somewhat reasonably claims, lots of cars aspire to be ‘fashionable’ and ‘different’ with their exterior styling, but fail to carry that through to the interior – the area where owners actually spend time.

2009 Kia Soul
Kia has not fallen into the same trap with Soul, and from the colour schemes and trim a choice to the personalisation options, audio systems – and even safety features – Soul ensures that what is promised on the outside is delivered inside.

Owners can virtually create their own unique Soul through the accessories that are available either as factory-fit options or though the Kia dealer network.

2009 Kia Soul

Pricing:

Soul – petrol 0nly- $20,990 (manual); $22,990 (automatic)

Soul2 -$23,190 (petrol/manual); $25,190 (petrol/auto); $26,690 (diesel/manual); $28,690 (diesel/auto)

Soul3 – $27,390 (petrol/auto); $30,890 (diesel/auto)

CarAdvice is currently covering the launch of the Kia Soul and our First Steer impressions of the car on the road will be on the site tomorrow.


 
  • Ravith

    By the face of it, it looks a bizarre car. Is it shaped like a SUV? But has only 1.6 L engine. >20000 for a kia 1.6 L is surely a way to get them nowhere. Correct price is 14000.

  • crouchy

    Suzuki SX4 is a much more attractive buy in my opinion.

  • Iz

    You’d think (ala MINI Cooper) that even the top-spec has the option to retain a plain old manual gearbox. Had a look on the KIA website at the indicatory specs, it seems they were a little cheeky with what they did.

    You’re pretty much allowed to do whatever you want if you have the top spec model, but at that money, you’re slowly walking into some very decent cars (Golf, Mazda3 etc).

    But I guess they’re hoping people think and compare it to the likes of the Mini Cooper, which starts ~10k more than the top spec model, so I guess its cheap in that sense.

  • http://caradvice Blue Blood

    They should do a Race version,

    Kia R-SOUL !!!!, everybody has one LOL

    Go Ford

  • Dan

    My god, this car looks horrid! The exterior looks like it’s been conceived back in the 80s! Way too boxy! Everything is out of proportion. Did Picasso design this car or something? And what’s with the rice accessories?? Neons in the speaker grilles?? Well, I always knew Kias were tacky, so no surprise there, I just never thought they’d go shopping at Supercheap Auto for their ‘fashion rice’ accessories that’s all. Yuck, this car is repulsive!

  • Falcodore

    Concieved in the US hay…no wonder it looks like one of them butt-ugly Scions!

    Do think the reverse camera in the rearview mirror is a good idea though, as thats what a lot of people naturally do, look at the mirrors.

  • Tim

    The only thing going for it is the looks and the cheap price for the attention. Must congratulate Kia though, looks different. But then you get over the looks and you look at the average transmissions, engines, interior, option list…and you realise that this is a bit of a joke.

    And its not ‘cool’ either Kia – especially for younger drivers (I’m one of them).

  • Dan

    I’ve seen these mirror reversing cameras on Ebay like 5 years ago… good idea, but the screen is too small. Prefer if it used the 7″ satnav screens you get in other cars…

  • RoFlmaTiC

    The nissan micra just moved down a notch on my most ugly cars list :D

  • t39

    Petrol: too slow. Diesel: too expensive, considering basic transmissions. Petrol 1.6 sounds like something inviting an aftermarket supercharger.

  • Bob

    The reversing camera is an Australian first in that it displays in the rear-vision mirror when reverse gear is engaged.

    Not True.

    Commodore Sportwagon has been offering this since last year, as has Hummer H3 Luxury from 12/08 Production

  • Scotto

    Australian first with the reverse camera in the rear view mirror?????
    Been on Toyota’s since mid last year and a few other brands I believe too.

    But cool lights around me stezza speakers would be fully sic……….?

  • o

    i quite like it though a tad to expensive. should have been a 1000$ premium over cerato

  • Jimbo

    Not my cup of tea. Kia needs to drop $3-5K off the price unless they wont sell, even if they do turn out to be great cars. Deserved or not that Kia badge on the front makes this car too expensive.

  • Frontman

    What surprises me is that Toyota have let them get away with it looking so much like the Scion xB. Nothing wrong with trying to look individual. But I am surprised that the reverse Camera passed ADR as the same style after market is not approved?

  • Yianni

    Very quirky indeed.

    A little on the expensive side though. It should have been priced just a little over the Cerato. Maybe a starting price of 19,990 would have been better.

    Also $22,990 for an automatic is pushing it in to territory with a lot of other decent cars for a similar price.

    Someone must REALLY want one of these to spend that much on it. I don’t think it will sell very well.

  • Dan

    Frontman, what’s toyota got to do with this abortion??

  • Frontman

    Funny thing is the first car I see in this things radar is the i30. Wonder how big brother will like that? i30 becoming the darling of the bowls set with Soul taking the up & commers?

  • Frontman

    Dan Toyota own Scion and this looks so close to a bltant copy of the xB

  • Yanzo

    interior is pretty good but damn it’s pretty ugly looking. if they making it for the young people then they should make it really easy to customize.

  • crouchy

    Yanzo.. you really think the interior is good? I think it reeks of cheap plastic :(

  • Simon

    The engines sound good. 91KW from a NA 1.6 is pretty good. Shame about that boxy rear end.
    What Kia should do if offer this diesel at a cheap price so diesel cars can be embraced by those looking for a cheap new car. That would cause this thing to sell in droves.

  • ComradeVodka

    Here we go again, people take one quick look at the general shape and the badge, and automatically start saying things like its a “copy” and that it will be crappy.
    -
    This has its market, and you red neck bogans, clearly aren’t it.

  • Tim

    Lol, excuse me Comrade?

  • Hummerbug

    Quote ” Yanzo.. you really think the interior is good? I think it reeks of cheap plastic” It’s even starting to sound like a Toyota CHEAP PLASTIC….

  • http://skyline The Salesman’s Soul is different

    The Soul is truly a revolution in car design and customizability. You can not categorize this car. Because there is nothing to compare it against (In Australia Frontman, I know Sicon) Dan, someone as worldly as you should know this design of car is very popular with uni students in the USA and Europe (Again see Toyota-Sicon)
    Target customers are y generation (Under 25) you will have over 61 customizable items so you can truly create your own soul. On the website http://www.notwosouls.com.au you will be able to design your own Soul and compare it to other people Souls.
    This car will get a five star euro ncap rating and five stars on the Australian green vehicle guide. This will mean Kia will have two cars in the top 20 on the green vehicle guide list. (Soul and Cerato) Kia’s will be not only more environmentally friendly to purchase privately but will be very attractive to fleet buyers looking to off set their carbon emissions.

  • Falcodore

    Comrade, it looks so much like a Scion that they could’ve come out of the same factory! Its scary really.

  • Falcodore

    Salesman, when you called the scion sicon were you just havin a dig? If so, good one.

    Sorry but i wont be pushed around by a salesman, i wont be visiting that website thank you very much! :)

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    I did not say it was for every one. It’s a bold design and definitely not to everyone’s taste. I have had one out the front for three days and it certainly turns heads, for good reasons and bad. As they say, any advertising is good advertising, as long as they are talking about the product then its working.

  • Dan

    Salesman said – “The Soul is truly a revolution in car design and customizability.”

    Let’s not get ahead of ourselves :) Car design “revolution”? Please clarify what exactly is “revolutionary” in its design. It’s a boxy hatchback. That’s it. Customizability “revolution”? Clicked on the website, choice of engine, transmission, colour, wheels, and bodykit. Quite standard choice you would get with most other manufacturers, what’s so “revolutionary” here Salesman? Ah, you can add some ‘body art’ to the paintwork. That’s it. Body art. Perhaps not all manufacturers do body art, but to claim it is revolutionary is quite an outrageous claim Salesman. Anyone who buys this car for the reason of being “revolutionary” is a gullible idiot.

    Salesman said – “for good reasons and bad. As they say, any advertising is good advertising, as long as they are talking about the product then its working.”

    If they point at it, and laugh at how ugly and ridiculous it looks, is that also “good advertising”?

    Perhaps it may be popular with chicks. Like the similarly ugly Nissan Micra. You don’t even see many of those though.

  • HAL

    he, he….it does look sort of weird, sorry Salesman. But hey, there will be people who love it, probably just not on this website……..other than the Salesman of course :-)

  • Stevothedevo

    Kia Soul, Kia Soul, Kia Soul – try saying that 20 times as fast as possible.

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    Dan, from the CA Article above (you should read it)

    “Soul presents consumers with such a broad selection of styling, comfort and equipment choices, that it redefines the concept of freedom and individuality and creates a new category for the young and young-at-heart”.

    You might want to reserve judgment until the new Web site launches.

    Dan says,
    If they point at it, and laugh at how ugly and ridiculous it looks, is that also “good advertising”?

    Yes, because it is top of mind, if you are laughing at it then you must be thinking of it.

  • Dan

    No offence to you Salesman nor CA, but that statement isn’t really saying much. It merely states you have a broad selection of styling (ie. have the extra option to have body art). In terms of equipment choices and comfort, surely a luxury car will have more broader list of those, so nothing revolutionary there. What does “it redefines the concept of freedom and individuality” mean? I understand by “individuality” it means the body art (big deal). What is freedom? Seriously? That whole statement just sounds like something directly out of a gullible marketing brochure. It says something fancy, but effectively means not much. in the end, this “revolution” only comes down to body art. Or am I missing something here?

  • Tentacles

    I like it bar the granny looking auto.

  • Frontman

    seeing as the salesman is coping it today (He He He) this and the Scion both look like Daihatsu Moves on Steroides (IMHO) :-)

  • Elitist

    Rather have the Fiat Panda HP100…
    Also rather have USB connectivity than a reverse camera in a short car.

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    OK Dan, i see your point and i hope this helps.
    Can you think of another car with 61 different options including trim levels? Their is literally thousands of ways you can customize your Soul. This is not a Luxury car; it is marketed to the Y generation who want something completely different and as individual as they are. Freedom to choose to be different, stand out. Be honest if you saw one of these drive down the road you would take notice, the kids who buy these want you to look at them, they are show offs, come to think of it, they are like you but with less money :) When the marketing rolls out i think you might be impressed, what would Dan’s Soul look like?

    Frontman, Thanks for the support :) One day i hope to repay the favour. Then we will see who is laughing.

  • Dan

    Salesman said – “Can you think of another car with 61 different options including trim levels?”

    You make it sound like a lot, whereas in fact, it isn’t.

    Let’s start from beginning

    Engine – 2 options
    Transmission – 2 options
    Exterior colours – 11 options
    Wheels – 4 options (including steelies)
    Bodykit – 1 option
    Chrome kit – 1 option
    Sports kit – 1 option
    Body art – 6 options
    Dash colour – 3 options
    Seat colour – 3 options

    I’m sorry, where did you get 61 options from? The above is straight from the website. Looking through it, seems like a reasonable number of trim options any manufacturer would have. What is so ‘revolutionary’ here apart from body art? The car will stand out because of the rice. That’s it. Guys won’t buy it, only chicks. This reaminds me of the Daihatsu (I belive it was) YRV, which was short for Your Recreational Vehicle from few years ago. Everytime some manufacturer comes up with a car of this sort and focuses it on the youth market believing that it is ‘cool’, it fails! Ask any teenager what they think of small econoboxes. They definately do not buy one to be cool in! I think you Kia guys should spend more time on market research, less time chatting on automotive websites ;)

  • Boney Maroney

    I like it…..quirky…different to other cars on the road……one in diesel would be nice run around town car……..will reserve final judgement till i see how big the boot is, from the pics it looks small

  • Sam

    I’m looking forward to taking one of these for a spin! I enjoy the styling, especially the back. Congratulations to Kia. I bet they sell like hotcakes. However, its not AWD tho is it? That could be the deal breaker which pushes me back toward something like a Suzuki SX4.

  • HAL

    Salesman, doesn’t Mini have that many (if not more) ways to individualise their cars? Just thought there were literally dozens of ways to you coul mix & match things with those too?

  • HAL

    I do like this quote “Conceived in the US, developed in Korea and fine-tuned in Europe, ” ……trying to be everything to everyone there by the sounds of it.

  • David

    I don’t get why people think the Soul looks so bad. I think the soul is quite attractive. If you want to see horrendous you should check out the Nissan Cube. From the american car review sites, the soul was rated higher than the scion and cube and it’s selling like hot cakes there. Although the performance of the car could be better, the car is more comfortable, has more standard features. No matter what people think about the car, it’s going to be hard to get one because Kia Australia is only allocated 500 Souls for this year.

  • Dan

    HAL, from what’s written, it appears most of the budget in developing this car was spent by the marketing department. No doubt a lot of people buy cars based on what salesmen and marketing brochures tell them. Here it seems like all that marketing genius with the fancy (though meaningless) words and what not has really done a good job at polishing this turd. And good point on the Mini. I made it a rule to never believe in anything salesmen tell you, for a good reason. This is one prime example :)

  • nobody

    It’s ugly and certainly in an American way. However it’s not ugly in a good way either, like the PT Cruiser kinda was. Definitely get noticed in one of those, but not sure in the right way. Nevertheless it’s a step forward for Kia taking in account for what they used to make. Probably not a good follow up to the Cerato though.

    Though there’s definitely a market for these types of cars, good luck for people who like them.

  • Iz

    The Soul has its merits. Some people will just “get it” and some don’t. Conservative markets (and conservatively minded people) might not take well to it, but thats as to be it. If it happens, it happens.

    There’s only so much worth trying to defend/justify a car’s position in the marketplace (or even existing at all) sometimes. Case in point with KIA’s latest products; the Cerato has a ton of nay-sayers saying it looks like a Honda, or that its just not good enough, or the Soul, saying it looks like a Scion (a car we don’t actually get here in Aus, so a moot point really).

    In reality, the Cerato is a properly decent and honest car and (compared to the heap that came before it) deserves to do well in the marketplace.

    The Soul, too, deserves its place. Some have said that its a parts-bin special from Halfords/Supercheap Auto etc, but if you ask me, that cheekiness is its appeal. Its pleasingly different in a market (like Aus) where the humdrum saloon reigns supreme.

    It has its pros and cons, but in all seriousness, what car doesn’t?

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    That information is from Kia’s press release book. The Soul web site is not up and running yet (just the teaser so far). Do you think a global car company (Number 5 in the world) wouldn’t look at markets viability before it invested millions of dollars to introduce a product to the market? I guess they could have saved a lot of money and time if they asked you first. If you like I have a full market evaluation and break down I can send to you, maybe you should review it and tell them what changes need to be made.

  • Dan

    Salesman – “Do you think a global car company (Number 5 in the world) wouldn’t look at markets viability before it invested millions of dollars to introduce a product to the market?”

    Yes. GM is prime example of a FAILure :) A lot of global businesses ‘get it wrong’. I;m sorry but this car is suitable for a clown. It’s just that bad.

    So how many body art choices is there in the press release to make up the numbers? 12? 18? I just want to know what is so “revolutionary” that’s all…

  • Eddy The Expert

    It’s obvious who this car is aimed at. Why would such a tiny car need a reverse camera? Especially when you look out that back window, and that’s the end of the car!

  • luvalambi

    Dan mate i totally agree its a clown car and ” Salesman” god knows how you got that title you have’nt convinced me to purchase this tin microwave with all the extra’s??

  • Jet

    Cars like this are best viewed from a distance…. About 2 kilometres or more. That this is hideous.

  • http://integra axel

    Korean take on japanese funk , trouble is its a bit beige ,guys “THE CLOWN ” i like that .

  • Dan

    It will be popular for the circus folk. Circus performers, after finishing a show, doing a batman line: “To the Clown Mobile!” And off they go haha.
    If they ever reshoot the first Dumb and Dumber movie, the scene with the car looking like a dog, this Soul one will suit it very well! Cool… this car ain’t haha.

  • luvalambi

    Yeah thank Dan for the clown skit Axel his words haaa ! I was thinking more like this car would drive in the circus and have a dozen ninja midgets jump out yelling KIIIIIIII YA!

  • http://integra axel

    Hahahahah nice one dan , i cant quite understand the 70s stick on vynal thingy on the back door of the white one ,is it left over draw liner material .

  • Tony

    Too dear for a Kia

  • http://integra axel

    yep SHINTARO , the grey ninja would love this they could blend into the beige interior .

    hey nice to see you online luvalambi , always love your wit and cupid stunts , even dan seems to be mellowing and going for more comedy , good on him .

  • http://integra devo

    Man the groups been looking for new wheels , finaly something to match our hats

  • luvalambi

    Yeah thanks Axelmyster! Dans pretty cool i reckon like an old red gets better with age ! Sorry meant to say young red haaaaa ! Back on topic Kia ( killed in Asia) HA !

  • Alan

    not saying they look similar or the same, but the basic shape and idea of it reminds me of toyota bb very much. Interesting idea, but i don’t see it being a success, to quirky a choice i say, and before you ask i’m old and i believe this is a car targeted at my age group.

  • unSoul

    Problem with this car:
    Expensive
    Bad ergonomics
    wannabe funky but goofy clown
    Powerless

    and so on.
    Kia just thought something different might work.
    So they released just 500? That’s about it for them. Most will go to some sort of museum.
    People may like to pelt with rocks if they see this car hanging around. can’t say how horrid it looks.

  • swampdawg

    Kia Motors – The Power to Surprise

    Yeah, that’s for shure, I’ll be surprised if someone buys one.

  • Dan

    Luvalambi said – “I was thinking more like this car would drive in the circus and have a dozen ninja midgets jump out yelling KIIIIIIII YA!”

    Oh man, that is just GOLD!!! Salesman should take some pointers from here and give it to corporate. Their marketing dept could learn from this thread. Could make some hillarious commercials out of the ‘clown-mobile’…

    Where is Salesman when you need him? I’m gonna have trouble falling asleep tonight, trying to think what could be so ‘revolutionary’ about the ‘clown-mobile’…

  • thenamesless

    Geez some of you are truely rednecks!
    Kia or any other non European or Aussie car that has a go is either always a copy or plain ugly according to you blokes..
    Yeah it looks like a Toyota, or any other car for that matter. It has wheels, looks like a hatch, I’m surprised none of you said it looks a little like the mini.

  • Dan

    I haven’t seen any Toyota in Australia that’s as ugly as the ‘clown-mobile’, sorry Thenamesless. Care to specify? It doesn’t look like any other car for that matter. If you cannot recognise a car, and you see them as ‘all the same’ because they have four wheels, what are you even doing on this site? :)

  • luvalambi

    Haaaa ! Salesman is out like a light i reckon! Poor little tacker he does have a hard job trying to sell ice to the eskimo’s …..

  • http://300kw GFYS

    $20990? are they out of their mind? 14990 is what people would pay for a 1.6 Kia

  • Tim

    Yeah trust a Kia salesman defending a Kia. Sorry mate, although you do believe in what you sell…but this thing is an overpriced joke of a car!

    Its not cool for any age group, it looks quirky…like the Scions (not Sicons Salesman) only worse. And revolutionary…lol wut?

  • John

    I rather drive a Scion than this (if i had to choose). Will there ever be a day when a car from a Korean manufacture look half decent? The rear of this car looks pooh.
    I dont know what to make of this “car”, is it even a car?
    Looks like its about the size of the Dodge Nitro on 16″ rims.

    The only this i thought looked nice are the lights on the speakers, i actually wouldnt mind that on my ride and thats about it.

  • Hayzel

    Car Advice. Can u send out a notice or something for Dan. All he is doing is really just bashing everyone’s comments and forcing his own about the car, which I think is very immature, annoying and offensive as well as unfair to a certain extent. What Dan is doing really is not free speech anymore..Dan you should reserved ur stupid remarks fr the kindie playground. As for the car I believe the design is revolutionary as in being bold. You just don’t see cars like this everyday. You see camry and aurions and falcodores because they are conservative in styles. This car design is emancipated from all conservative means and put out really what I would say fresh ideas. A car that is fun and have personalities. As for boxy or not I think the design is quite modern altough its de novo styling will definitely raise conflicting comments. A car that gets people talking and ponder hmmm…that car looks weird hmmm rahter unusual…hmm boxy a little bit tacky but tha pain is nice hmm..I think this kind of car would be said to be revolutionary in design. A design like BMW will not let people ponder too much as people generally accept them as being good. Same thing with toyota..people would accept their styling generally since they seem to have traditions in conservative styling. KIA is pulling away from all that and boldy put up ideas…and I think IT”S GREAT!!!

  • Hayzel

    Oh another point that I would like to make. People seems to not be able to pull away from prejudices on brands really. As soon as they hear korean cars people will turn away even though the car might be good…and I think that is sad. What korean car makers are trying to do is really puting new ideas and designs that are affordable by everyone so people get to choose. So we don’t have to see corollas everyday on our roads..or having to choose a camry just because there really isn’t much to choose from…how many cars do you see around 20 thousand brackets with personality? Not many at all….KIA is trying to improve the range of this category with this car. To tell everyone here the truth I don’t think anyone really feel that excited when they see new BMWs or MERCs like new 7 series or whatnot since seriously I don’t think even CARADVICE people can afford them neither can we!! What we should really keep an eye ou for is car like this….relatively cheap..something new and fresh. Some people like it some people don’t but that doesn’t mean you can just spray the car with unfair prejudices. We should wait for CARADVICE reviews for that..then make an “informed” comment. Dan stop being a kid….

  • Hayzel

    Imature people unlike the salesman are really just bullies. They just throw rocks at this car for fun and because they think it’s funny..and most of the time it’s because they follow people who do i prior to them doing it…look at those people banding together and supporting each others stupid remarks. very immature. How about people actually comment on the car and not use the comment boxes for some wannabe funny smartarse remarks.

    Like LUVALAMBI, U think ur comment is funny? THE SALESMAN is saying constructive mature critics unlike ur useless crap..no use whatsoever.

    luvalambi Says:
    April 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Yeah thank Dan for the clown skit Axel his words haaa ! I was thinking more like this car would drive in the circus and have a dozen ninja midgets jump out yelling KIIIIIIII YA!

    What exactly is this comment? Ninja midgets..are u being racist..This bunch of crap should no be in the comment box. I’m sure anyone wih enugh mental health wil agree..

    Dan Says:
    April 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Salesman – “Do you think a global car company (Number 5 in the world) wouldn’t look at markets viability before it invested millions of dollars to introduce a product to the market?”

    Yes. GM is prime example of a FAILure :) A lot of global businesses ‘get it wrong’. I;m sorry but this car is suitable for a clown. It’s just that bad.

    No GM didn’t get it wrong. They get downs of sales due to economic downturns not bad marketing. They just fail to prdict the destruction of lehmans brothers…they were fine beforehand..at least far from this bad. So you are wrong.

    Tim Says:
    April 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Yeah trust a Kia salesman defending a Kia. Sorry mate, although you do believe in what you sell…but this thing is an overpriced joke of a car!

    Its not cool for any age group, it looks quirky…like the Scions (not Sicons Salesman) only worse. And revolutionary…lol wut?

    You are no longer commenting on the cars anymore. You are just plainly attacking THE SALESMAN for fun..who is the only one with common sense here. Why bash on people’s comments for fun?

    SERIOUSLY PEOPLE CRITICIZE THE CAR FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH NOT PEOPLES COMMENTS OR JUST STUPID PLAIN ATTEMPTS TO BE FUNNY OR A BULLY OF THE COMMENT BOX. NOT ONLY FOR THIS CAR BUT OTHERS TOO.

  • TheNameless

    Dan, you missed the point. People are saying it looks like a Scion, a Diahatsu etc. Every car looks like another when it’s all new. When the Kia becomes familiar, it will look like a Soul.

  • Pious

    I like it. This shape of car is everywhere in Japan, not just with the Cubes, and you cant help but smile when you see them. Sort of so ugly it’s cute, like a boxer dog. Might be a bit exey, though.

  • Mr RAV

    To me the styling looks like the suzuki swift, but a bit more elongated. It’s a brand new vehicle, not a replacement so it may still have a niche in the small car market for people after a new product, not just an updated Barina, Corolla or Fiesta. The light tan inserts inside the cabin don’t really scream a funky and cool image though.

    An alternative to the mini cooper? i doubt that very much – i’d rather pay more for the basic spec mini as opposed to this Kia. But if you’re someone who has owned a Kia previously, the Soul would be a contender if you’re in the new car market.

    It still looks better than the fugly Nissan Tiida…..

    Can anyone advise on the running costs and service costs that Kia dealers charge these days? Would be interesting to compare those costs agains the expensive servicing that Mazda and Toyota charge for their small cars.

  • Hummerbug

    Hayzel ! Do you need a hug? I think Luvalambi and Dan are funny and going by this car they have made valid comments? Seriously it’s a funny looking car and i think the comments made about it are just. You are actually doing that which you hate most and are picking up peoples comments and giving your own view (just like Dan) soooo your no different really! By the way are you a ninja midget? If not then keep your opinions to yourself “Racist” is a word used alot these days and no one has any idea what it means…. Kia FAIL!

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    Looks like Kia are achieving exactly what they set out to do. Get people talking about Kia.

  • Dan

    Oh dear. Hayzel, I questioned the wording in this article and Salesman’s, as I tried to understand what exactly is so revolutionary. I’m still yet to find out. Boxy small econobox cars have been around for a loooong time. THey are popular in Japan. THey have never been popular in Australia though. (think of the Move, YRV, Terios, Wagon+, and so on). Apart from the body art, there is NOTHING new that this car has to offer, NOTHING. So what is so ‘revolutionary’? Care to answer that? To me it seems like this car is full of marketing BS, with nothing to back it up behind the marketing brochure. On top of that, it look quite stupid. Young teens often aspire to get a cool sports car of some sort for example. THey are more image concious than older people, though they lack the money generally. They won’t buy a dorky looking thing like that. Which is why the cars I mentioned above have failed in the past. And which is why this clown-mobile will fail in the future. It looks ridiculous. There’s a difference between looking simply different to everyone, and looking stupid. THis car looks stupid. And what is ‘racist’ about our comments?? You’re picking at straws mate!

    Hayzel said – “No GM didn’t get it wrong. They get downs of sales due to economic downturns not bad marketing. They just fail to prdict the destruction of lehmans brothers…they were fine beforehand..at least far from this bad. So you are wrong.”

    GM has been in trouble long before the financial crisis mate. THeir products are to blame, not their marketing.

    Mr RAV said – “Would be interesting to compare those costs agains the expensive servicing that Mazda and Toyota charge for their small cars.”

    All dealers charge more than the generic mechanical garages. Under $150 for a service isn’t that expensive I would have thought anyway…

  • Dan

    Salesman said – “Looks like Kia are achieving exactly what they set out to do. Get people talking about Kia.”

    I’m talkng about it… and I’m saying that I won’t buy it. Mission accomplished for Kia? LOL! Are you taking the piss Salesman?

  • Pious

    I dunno, I think there is a market for it. The PT cruiser sold OK, at it has very little going for it apart from its peculiar looks. This thing has a bit of functionality too (probably not much, but more than (say) a mazda 2). Probably depend on whether you could fit a pram/the dog/some junk in the back. I’d rather have this thing than some astra or whatever.

  • Hummerbug

    Have to agree Pious there is a market for it PIZZA VAN!

  • Frontman

    Dan, the fact that you wont buy it, is of such relevence…. The thing is actually selling up a storm in the real world markets. Okay so it doesn’t fit into the market you are in, that probably just means that it’s a better car than you will ever realise.
    EG In my opinion, IS250′s are a poor second attempt at breaking into a market. THe IS200 was a far more standout vehicle and demanded attention on the street whereas your beloved 250 just melds into the traffic. Am I right? In my opinion, for what I want, yes and also for my peers.
    You ask what is revolutionary, how about the fact that the car is so personalisable without costing ridiculous amounts of money? Sure Mini’s had plenty of style packages, so do Smart for2′s & forfours. Both are way more expensive than this car. The generation that are buying the Soul overseas are the same group that go out and buy a purple Ipod and then two weeks later buy a green striped cover for it just to make it different.

  • Pious

    Hummerbug – LOL! Pizza van, and mid life crisis machine for me! I could trade the XF on 5 of them, in different colours. I’d prefer the Cube, though.

  • Hummerbug

    LOL – Mid life crisis machine haaaa! Yeah i think the cube is much better than an oblong ! HAA

  • Dan

    LOL Frontman. So nothing changes then, because Kia’s have always been ‘revolutionary’ for being dirt cheap. Except that this car isn’t even cheap! How about they cut the BS, and just say it that way. Revolutionary because it’s cheaper than the Mini. Funny how it’s not even in the same league as the Mini. However the only thing there is to customise really is the body art. Everything else, other vehicles have those choices also. Body art. That’s all there is extra to customise! Wow! You get easily sucked into marketing drivel don’t you Frontman? Oh, and your mention of it “selling up a storm”, the car has only been out for less than two months!
    And for the record, the new IS is a far better looking car than the old. But what would I know, I’ve only had/owned both in the family…

  • Jimmy

    Small rip-off of Citroen Picasso?

  • RALLYX

    To all the folk on this post who ‘dislike’ this car – you are all a bunch of robots, all brainwashed by marketing guru’s to buy cars that look so stereotypical to each other.

    It’s so ironic how society has become ‘every-man for himself’ yet you proclaim to be an individual but you drive a Commodore or Falcon, or an SUV.

    The truth is that most other people are too scared to drive something different as they might be perceived as being weird or different, or worried that clowns like Dan or Tim may laugh at them.

    True Individuals – go out and buy the car you want, not the one society wants you to have.

    There are still some people left in our society that want a bit of individuality in the car they drive.
    At least KIA isn’t so narrow minded about giving those people a broader choice.

  • Dan

    Rallyx, you missed our point, nothing wrong with individuality at all. But individuality and ugliness are two seperate concepts. You can be good looking and individual at the same time. This car isn’t. Sure, it’s individual, but it is also ugly. Hence the clown-mobile nickname :)

  • Frontman

    Ha Ha Dan Showing your superiority by having had Two Lexus’ in the family, yet we are the ones caught by the hype?
    Those of us that decide to look at the marketing facts and aim for something outside of the meat and three veg (hey Eye fillet served on a bed of mash with grilled asparagus and honeyed carrots is still meat and three veg with a fancy name) like maybe Sushi or Fetucini funghi might just actually fall into line with more “rational” thinking people than you realise. As has been stated, and you can check this out yourself, the Soul has been selling up a storm all over the world, so it can’t be that bad.
    By the way, for the record I have NOTHING to do with Kia it’s agents (apart from making some of them paranoid ;-) )
    or it’s cars nor do I really want to.

  • FoRd ChicK

    A little part of me likes this slightly, appart from the back end!!! But does anyone agree that it looks like an oversized box of tissues???

  • Frontman

    See Dan there is the difference. Whilst “most” of us will put forward expressed as OUR OPINION, you try to push yours as being Fact!!
    At your age you should be well aware of the simple fact in life that people like different things, (otherwise brunettes would be very lonely) eg I said “in my opinion the Is 200 is better looking than the 250″ Your answer was that the “250 IS better than the 200 in looks”?? You may think so but you are NOT right. If YOU don’t like the look of something, fine. That doesn’t make it wrong, maybe your taste are so far out of conformity that most would say you were wrong.
    Moderators sorry for the ramble but! I will now return to commenting on the stories only :-) Cheers!

  • Dan

    You lost me Frontman. You have a problem with my opinion and call it wrong. Then you start rambling on about your opinion calling it right. Here’s a tip, how about you practice what you preach frontman. Otherwise so far you just sound like nothing more than a hypocrite :)

    And any reasonable person would realise that a month and a half of sales is too early to call whether it is a sales success. I suggest you take your rosy Kia glasses off first and wait a reasonable period of time before you ramble on with that opinion.

  • unSoul

    Rallyxx – sure you are allowed to go unconventional, but I would not drive a car that is shaped like a pig, for example. This kia soul is completely ugly inside and out, and maybe, kia is testing people’s reaction to ugly cars. Well, they are selling only 500 of them, I heard somewhere.

  • Dan

    500 cars haha. Sales success! For Kia maybe haha. Are they trying to become the new SsangYong? That car is very ‘individual’ haha. I guess perhaps here lies the secret to the ‘individuality’ factor. Selling so little cars, there wouldn’t be many on the roads at all. YOu really would be individual haha. They’d be as rare as hen’s teeth :)

  • Hummerbug

    “CarAdvice is currently covering the launch of the Kia Soul and our First Steer impressions of the car on the road will be on the site tomorrow.” BREAKING NEWS ! Alborz has been attacked by a ninja wearing a clown costume…
    Serious cant wait to see what CA think with the first steer !

  • Simonsez

    Would need to see one before passing judgement on the looks.It’s meant to be quirky and eye catching and is obviously aimed at a specific demographic;most of whom probably don’t frequent this site. However 94 KW from a 1.6 l diesel does sound impressive and should mean that this option will provide excellent performance. Wonder if it’s the same engine as in the Hyundai i30 diesel but with some improvements ?

  • Tim

    Hayzel, I love you. Its OK, no need to cry over this…its just a forum where people can talk about cars and agree/disagree with other users.

    Welcome to the internet.

  • Andronicus

    I thought this car was pretty ugly when I first saw it. I still think it’s ugly just not AS ugly as before. Looks better in red I guess. Goes faster to from what I hear.

    And as for brand prejudice, I would never ever consider buying a Kia…… but I will probably have to eventually.

    DAMN YOU STUPID ECONOMY!

  • Hayzel

    Tim Says:
    April 3rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    Hayzel, I love you. Its OK, no need to cry over this…its just a forum where people can talk about cars and agree/disagree with other users.

    Welcome to the internet.

    The exact point i was talking about earlier. Criticize the car please? I couldn’t care less about ur view of the internet…another one of those crap useless comment. See how this thing becomes a trend.

    Hummerbug Says:
    April 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 am

    Hayzel ! Do you need a hug? I think Luvalambi and Dan are funny and going by this car they have made valid comments?

    Just like i said earlier, if u read y previous comments i also said that immature people band together and supor each others crappy remarks…..

    Seriously it’s a funny looking car and i think the comments made about it are just. You are actually doing that which you hate most and are picking up peoples comments and giving your own view (just like Dan) soooo your no different really!

    No. It’s different. Dan pick out a comment and try to replace it with his. eg. “the car is good then dan repy no the car is crap ur wrong”. My comment is a critic with no replacing effect. eg. “ninja Mideget KIAAAA, they I reply that was a stuid comment with no use criticise the car”.

    By the way are you a ninja midget? If not then keep your opinions to yourself “Racist” is a word used alot these days and no one has any idea what it means…. Kia FAIL!

    I think everyone know what racist means…maybe u don’t and that is a cause of concern since racism seems to be the area of normality to u. Why would he said ninja midget..why not ninja only. It’s because ninja is asian…it’s like saying poor black guy…why no just say poor guy.

  • Dan

    Hayzel, excessive political correctness is what ruins the society nowadays. Well done mr doo gooder! I would never have thought the word ‘ninja’ to be a racist word. Get a grip of reality will you!

  • Sam

    I think some people dont understand the point that was made about getting people talking about Kia, be it good or bad, Kia wants it! The fact that people are generally aware that there is even a car company called Kia is a credit to their marketing strategy. Im sure more people in the general community recognise the Kia brand and cars before they would for say Fiat, Ssangyong or Proton. (Just to name a few brands which have been doing businees in the country for ages but havent managed to gain any traction in brand awaremess or sales success.)
    Kia is a value brand. They build affordable, practical cars for everyday commuters, not enthusiasts. The mass market. This brings me to my point. Its all about traffic through showrooms. Kia would know how likely someone is to buy a car when they come into the showroom. Pure statistics form history. They keep records on how many enquiries per sale attained. Lets say for example it is 1 out of every 10, so a 10% chance that a customer who walks in to look will end up buying. The trick then for Kia is not to try harder to get each person to buy, but to get more people in to look. Consumers wont think to look if they dont know it exists. They wont know it exists unless they read and article, see or hear an ad, or talk to someone who mentions the car. So even when someone says on an internet forum or to a friend ‘the new Kia soul is shite/great/ugly/cute’ they have in fact increased awareness and therefore increased the traffic flow into the showrooms and increased sales. And it didn’t cost Kia a cent.

    Its the old ‘would you like fries with that?’ routine. They know the chance of you saying no, but they also know that if they had never asked they would guarantee no sale.

  • Scottie

    If you couldn’t care less about performance/dymanics and are young (and trying to be fashionable) and want to spend $20k on a car would you buy this or a astra/3/focus?

    Not my cup of tea but I think they will sell well with a certain demographic.

  • Hummerbug

    Im with Tim Hayzel you are ooozing love ! Group hug !

  • Boney maroney

    I stopped at the dealership on the way home last night…………It looks great in the metal. Boot space is confined, more deep then wide, but it looks like a funky little run around. I like things a bit different, so i like this……….don’t like the price, tad expensive

  • RALLYX

    Dan, point taken, but the same can be said; you can be ugly and individual also :)

    UnSoul (and Dan), ever heard of the cliche – beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    Ugly cars for some, and un-ugly cars for others.

  • Hummerbug

    Comment moderated – In breach of Code of Conduct

  • RALLYX

    Careful Hummerbug….the Pol-eece is on your tail.

  • Pious

    This has got to be a record. 107 posts, and only 2 mentioning “lexus”. If owning one of these would generate as much discussion, they’ll sell like hot cakes. Someone mentioned not wanting to buy a car shaped like a pig. I take it that the R class is out, then?

  • Hummerbug

    Thats harsh ! it might have been to funny , i bet the guys at CA are laughing… Sorry CA it wont happen again :o (

  • Stumpy

    So it’s not pretty but there are many ordinary looking cars going around. The diesel would be my pick but it’s way over priced. And that’s it in a nutshell for me the price for what you get doesn’t balance out.

  • Dan

    But Stumpy, according to Salesman and Kia marketing dept, for the price you get “freedom”. Price shoudln’t be a relevant factor when you get “freedom”. You’ll be free with this car. Free to drive anywhere, unlike any other car… errr… no, wait a sec.

    LOL!

  • Marty

    Also released in NZ and the prices here are crazy. Starts at $30k and tops out at 40K. http://kia.co.nz/Vehicles/Soul/Prices.aspx