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		<title>By: Red</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27221/autotalk-what-we-think/#comment-129586</link>
		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frontman Says: 
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm 
&quot;Why is it that as far as the majority of vocal car drivers are concerned, it is always the Trucks (including Semi’s), 4wd Drivers, Motorcyclists, Caravaner, Cyclists, Pedestrian and Tractor drivers that are at fault&quot;

Just to clarify i don&#039;t blame tractor drivers for anything there only doing there job i just don&#039;t like them. 
Having spent some time riding with my brother in his b-double on long haul trips really does give you a good perspective on how many bad drivers there are on our roads (and I hope i&#039;m not one of them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frontman Says:<br />
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm<br />
&#8220;Why is it that as far as the majority of vocal car drivers are concerned, it is always the Trucks (including Semi’s), 4wd Drivers, Motorcyclists, Caravaner, Cyclists, Pedestrian and Tractor drivers that are at fault&#8221;</p>
<p>Just to clarify i don&#8217;t blame tractor drivers for anything there only doing there job i just don&#8217;t like them.<br />
Having spent some time riding with my brother in his b-double on long haul trips really does give you a good perspective on how many bad drivers there are on our roads (and I hope i&#8217;m not one of them).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a job where you leave for work before school zones kick in, Simple.

In QLD most of the new schools and some existing have been upgraded to have a drop off car park in a drive through maccas style set up.

I do understand though that there will always be that one person that has to land the boot half a metre from the gate.

I thought it was christmas when i ever got droped at school.

Walking or riding home in a cracker of a summer storm is only character building anyhow, toughen up Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a job where you leave for work before school zones kick in, Simple.</p>
<p>In QLD most of the new schools and some existing have been upgraded to have a drop off car park in a drive through maccas style set up.</p>
<p>I do understand though that there will always be that one person that has to land the boot half a metre from the gate.</p>
<p>I thought it was christmas when i ever got droped at school.</p>
<p>Walking or riding home in a cracker of a summer storm is only character building anyhow, toughen up Australia</p>
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		<title>By: Horse</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27221/autotalk-what-we-think/#comment-129578</link>
		<dc:creator>Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heres a idea, make the little brats walk to school like we all had to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres a idea, make the little brats walk to school like we all had to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FRONTMAN, Well said! I agree with you 100%...well other than the cup of coffee, never did like the taste.
The only issue I have ever had with school zones is when they are 24hr 40kph zones...completely unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FRONTMAN, Well said! I agree with you 100%&#8230;well other than the cup of coffee, never did like the taste.<br />
The only issue I have ever had with school zones is when they are 24hr 40kph zones&#8230;completely unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian, thanks for proving myself and Frontman 100% correct - tool.

And I suppose everyone who gets in your precious way wasting your precious time is a d*ckhead? Geuss what everyone else thinks of YOU?  D*CKHEAD!!!

And BTW, no I don&#039;t use the entrance off the main road, but the off street &quot;drop N go&quot;. Our school is on a major thouroughfare (but still only 50 km/h road anyway) and the school doesn&#039;t cause any of the &quot;sh*t&quot; you b*tch about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian, thanks for proving myself and Frontman 100% correct &#8211; tool.</p>
<p>And I suppose everyone who gets in your precious way wasting your precious time is a d*ckhead? Geuss what everyone else thinks of YOU?  D*CKHEAD!!!</p>
<p>And BTW, no I don&#8217;t use the entrance off the main road, but the off street &#8220;drop N go&#8221;. Our school is on a major thouroughfare (but still only 50 km/h road anyway) and the school doesn&#8217;t cause any of the &#8220;sh*t&#8221; you b*tch about.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27221/autotalk-what-we-think/#comment-129563</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frontman, you&#039;re a fool ..... for thinking that half the twits on here could be so rational. I mean why let common sense and courtesy get in the way of you&#039;re own self interest. Really!

(Please read this with the sarchasm it&#039;s intended)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frontman, you&#8217;re a fool &#8230;.. for thinking that half the twits on here could be so rational. I mean why let common sense and courtesy get in the way of you&#8217;re own self interest. Really!</p>
<p>(Please read this with the sarchasm it&#8217;s intended)</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Damian, dare I say it - get a life. For 15 minutes, twice a day there is always haevy traffic around all schools. Don’t you have something more serious in your life?&quot;

Dare I say, Bret, you&#039;re one of those d*ckheads that incovenience other motorists by parking in the middle of the road so you could pick up your kids?  

That 15 minutes is still my time and instead of wasting it being stuck behind selfish parents dropping off their little sh*ts, I&#039;d rather spend that time arriving to work early and posting on CarAdvice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Damian, dare I say it &#8211; get a life. For 15 minutes, twice a day there is always haevy traffic around all schools. Don’t you have something more serious in your life?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dare I say, Bret, you&#8217;re one of those d*ckheads that incovenience other motorists by parking in the middle of the road so you could pick up your kids?  </p>
<p>That 15 minutes is still my time and instead of wasting it being stuck behind selfish parents dropping off their little sh*ts, I&#8217;d rather spend that time arriving to work early and posting on CarAdvice.</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha Ha Ha, my opportunity to really upset my fellow bloggers. If I offend anyone I offer my appologies beforehand, but I feel the need to point out the following. 

Reading a lot of your replies about how bad it is to be held up by someone else during a one hour period every day and how irate you get is just a prime example of the lack of driver education in Australia.
Sorry but queing up on a road whilst waiting to turn into a drive way IS NOT ILLEGAL! It may be impolite sure but it&#039;s not agianst the law. Sure the people dropping kids off are anoying, but if the average motorist had actually used common sense and drove to the prevailing condidtions in the first place these zones would not be needed. 
WHy is it that as far as the majority of vocal car drivers are concerned, it is always the Trucks (including Semi&#039;s), 4wd Drivers, Motorcyclists, Caravaner, Cyclists, Pedestrian and Tractor drivers that are at fault not the car drivers??Perhaps the average car driver need to learn the simple fact that the world doesn&#039;t evolve around them. As Cupid said a lot of you become diferent beasts once you are armed with a set of wheels.

As I said a little earlier in this thread, I have to go through two zones on my way to work, so I simply changed my routine leave earlier and have a very nice Coffee on my way to work arrive relaxed and ready to start the day. Also by leaving earlier the actual trip time takes less becasue there is less traffic to contend with so again less agro etc etc. If others took this attitude they might actually find that their whole life gets much nicer.

Flame away at me if chose, or go back and read how selfish you sound in your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha Ha Ha, my opportunity to really upset my fellow bloggers. If I offend anyone I offer my appologies beforehand, but I feel the need to point out the following. </p>
<p>Reading a lot of your replies about how bad it is to be held up by someone else during a one hour period every day and how irate you get is just a prime example of the lack of driver education in Australia.<br />
Sorry but queing up on a road whilst waiting to turn into a drive way IS NOT ILLEGAL! It may be impolite sure but it&#8217;s not agianst the law. Sure the people dropping kids off are anoying, but if the average motorist had actually used common sense and drove to the prevailing condidtions in the first place these zones would not be needed.<br />
WHy is it that as far as the majority of vocal car drivers are concerned, it is always the Trucks (including Semi&#8217;s), 4wd Drivers, Motorcyclists, Caravaner, Cyclists, Pedestrian and Tractor drivers that are at fault not the car drivers??Perhaps the average car driver need to learn the simple fact that the world doesn&#8217;t evolve around them. As Cupid said a lot of you become diferent beasts once you are armed with a set of wheels.</p>
<p>As I said a little earlier in this thread, I have to go through two zones on my way to work, so I simply changed my routine leave earlier and have a very nice Coffee on my way to work arrive relaxed and ready to start the day. Also by leaving earlier the actual trip time takes less becasue there is less traffic to contend with so again less agro etc etc. If others took this attitude they might actually find that their whole life gets much nicer.</p>
<p>Flame away at me if chose, or go back and read how selfish you sound in your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian, dare I say it - get a life. For 15 minutes, twice a day there is always haevy traffic around all schools. Don&#039;t you have something more serious in your life?

Anyway, change of shift in large manufacturing areas is MUCH worse, well it used to be before KRudds mismanagement forced all of the closures!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian, dare I say it &#8211; get a life. For 15 minutes, twice a day there is always haevy traffic around all schools. Don&#8217;t you have something more serious in your life?</p>
<p>Anyway, change of shift in large manufacturing areas is MUCH worse, well it used to be before KRudds mismanagement forced all of the closures!</p>
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		<title>By: Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many school zones in sydney , back streets main roads, they are everywhere ! 
The other thing that pisses me off is I never know when school holidays is, I had a guy go ape at me for doing 40 through a school zone in the school holidays, I don&#039;t have kids, how the hell was i supposed to know ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many school zones in sydney , back streets main roads, they are everywhere !<br />
The other thing that pisses me off is I never know when school holidays is, I had a guy go ape at me for doing 40 through a school zone in the school holidays, I don&#8217;t have kids, how the hell was i supposed to know ?</p>
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		<title>By: QwkEddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>QwkEddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep,these school zones are needed because of the unruly children and parents not being able to control them.
Children are put up on a pedal stool with hardly any discipline at home and our society pays for it with ratbag behaviour from these children later on in life.
These kids can play computer games,argue,manipulate,lie etc and yet,they have trouble crossing the bloody roads!?!
Someone talked about parents maybe walking their children to school.That could work especially  for fat bottomed mothers!that seem to  NEED an AWD such as a HUGE Toyota Landcruiser to drive their one child to school!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep,these school zones are needed because of the unruly children and parents not being able to control them.<br />
Children are put up on a pedal stool with hardly any discipline at home and our society pays for it with ratbag behaviour from these children later on in life.<br />
These kids can play computer games,argue,manipulate,lie etc and yet,they have trouble crossing the bloody roads!?!<br />
Someone talked about parents maybe walking their children to school.That could work especially  for fat bottomed mothers!that seem to  NEED an AWD such as a HUGE Toyota Landcruiser to drive their one child to school!</p>
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		<title>By: o</title>
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		<dc:creator>o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most parents are complete idiots who smother there children.people who usually live 50m away will drive tehre angels to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most parents are complete idiots who smother there children.people who usually live 50m away will drive tehre angels to school.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Matt. So true, with the problem not just in Australia. We have similar problems here. My kids school is about 150 metres from out front door on a quiet road and it&#039;s lethal sometimes trying to cross the kids over the road. Footpaths are 1.5 meters wide with parents insisting they they have to park on them to drop their kids off when they should in theory live no more than 15 minutes walk away (Catchment Zones).

The bigger probnlem is we all turn into different animals when we get behind the wheel, the educated like you Matt and myself keep a level head and see the better picture, the type that read tabloids have no intelligence capability to make a decent considerate decision. Morons some of which have made comments here!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Matt. So true, with the problem not just in Australia. We have similar problems here. My kids school is about 150 metres from out front door on a quiet road and it&#8217;s lethal sometimes trying to cross the kids over the road. Footpaths are 1.5 meters wide with parents insisting they they have to park on them to drop their kids off when they should in theory live no more than 15 minutes walk away (Catchment Zones).</p>
<p>The bigger probnlem is we all turn into different animals when we get behind the wheel, the educated like you Matt and myself keep a level head and see the better picture, the type that read tabloids have no intelligence capability to make a decent considerate decision. Morons some of which have made comments here!!</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^btw i always slow down for the school zones</description>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Hate the school zone on narrelan road, smeatons grange. I go home from work that way and it&#039;s 80kph on that road but in the school zone the only kids i see are on the bus. I don&#039;t even know where the school is. But thats nothing compared to how many times i been stuck behind tractors on the way home I HATE TRACTORS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Hate the school zone on narrelan road, smeatons grange. I go home from work that way and it&#8217;s 80kph on that road but in the school zone the only kids i see are on the bus. I don&#8217;t even know where the school is. But thats nothing compared to how many times i been stuck behind tractors on the way home I HATE TRACTORS</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a local school that has a 40kmh school zone on a six lane, 80kph road - most cars slow down to close to 40kph - except for a lot of the cars in the left lane..... the ones turning in to the school driveway loaded with kids.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a local school that has a 40kmh school zone on a six lane, 80kph road &#8211; most cars slow down to close to 40kph &#8211; except for a lot of the cars in the left lane&#8230;.. the ones turning in to the school driveway loaded with kids&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shak, I hope they don&#039;t put dividers outside my local primary school, since the only way of bypassing the queue is to drive onto the other side of the road.  This is, no doubt, the most dangerous and hazardous option.  However, the only other alternative would be to endure the ten minute wait.  Why should fellow motorists have to make concessions and suffer just because a few parents want to pick up their deliquents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shak, I hope they don&#8217;t put dividers outside my local primary school, since the only way of bypassing the queue is to drive onto the other side of the road.  This is, no doubt, the most dangerous and hazardous option.  However, the only other alternative would be to endure the ten minute wait.  Why should fellow motorists have to make concessions and suffer just because a few parents want to pick up their deliquents?</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too right damian. Im a student in year 11 in Sydney, but the parents in front of my school are very corteous and follow thr rules. there is the occasional boofhead but they all pass. The good thing our school did was make a divider in the middle of the road to stop u-turns that were holding up traffic and also stop overtaking as the school is just before a bridge and its really long and straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too right damian. Im a student in year 11 in Sydney, but the parents in front of my school are very corteous and follow thr rules. there is the occasional boofhead but they all pass. The good thing our school did was make a divider in the middle of the road to stop u-turns that were holding up traffic and also stop overtaking as the school is just before a bridge and its really long and straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone noticed that most parents picking up their children from school, possess very bad attitudes regardless of whether they are breaking the law?  

A prime example is my local primary school, where parents queue in the middle of the road so they could eventually get into the pickup/dropoff zone.  It&#039;s an absolute disgrace as other road users are forced to either wait, or drive on the other side of the road into oncoming traffic to bypass those blocking the road.  I&#039;ve found that no matter how long I lay on the horn, these rude parents wouldn&#039;t budge and even give you accusing looks in their mirrors.  

It&#039;s time for the police to not only focus on speeding motorists in school zones, but enforce general traffic etiquette and deal with those who impede traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed that most parents picking up their children from school, possess very bad attitudes regardless of whether they are breaking the law?  </p>
<p>A prime example is my local primary school, where parents queue in the middle of the road so they could eventually get into the pickup/dropoff zone.  It&#8217;s an absolute disgrace as other road users are forced to either wait, or drive on the other side of the road into oncoming traffic to bypass those blocking the road.  I&#8217;ve found that no matter how long I lay on the horn, these rude parents wouldn&#8217;t budge and even give you accusing looks in their mirrors.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for the police to not only focus on speeding motorists in school zones, but enforce general traffic etiquette and deal with those who impede traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/27221/autotalk-what-we-think/#comment-129464</link>
		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha I used to get p&#039;d off by the two school zones i go through on my way to work, now I just leave home half an hour earlier and stop at gloria jeans for a coffee and read the paper before heading to the office. Get to the office relaxed and don&#039;t have to worry about drinking instant coffee in the morning. Works for me and I don&#039;t get the agro :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha I used to get p&#8217;d off by the two school zones i go through on my way to work, now I just leave home half an hour earlier and stop at gloria jeans for a coffee and read the paper before heading to the office. Get to the office relaxed and don&#8217;t have to worry about drinking instant coffee in the morning. Works for me and I don&#8217;t get the agro :-)</p>
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