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	<title>Comments on: 2010 Kia &#8220;VG&#8221; luxury concept leaked</title>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
 What is your problem?...If you do not like the Kia brand then why comment?....I have two luxury Euro cars and a Kia...and I find the Kia is a very sound product. At least give the product a go before you knock it! I feel this VG will do very well...Dan you are a snob...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
 What is your problem?&#8230;If you do not like the Kia brand then why comment?&#8230;.I have two luxury Euro cars and a Kia&#8230;and I find the Kia is a very sound product. At least give the product a go before you knock it! I feel this VG will do very well&#8230;Dan you are a snob&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SamR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah when I think luxury I think Kia.

Puke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah when I think luxury I think Kia.</p>
<p>Puke!</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My appologies, that was meant to read 1000. I agree that 10k is laughable but Kia will aim at 1000/mth and thye will get that number. This if you want to compare to the big T is Kia&#039;s Cressida. Something to prove they can make a good car, before embarking on a toitally new direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My appologies, that was meant to read 1000. I agree that 10k is laughable but Kia will aim at 1000/mth and thye will get that number. This if you want to compare to the big T is Kia&#8217;s Cressida. Something to prove they can make a good car, before embarking on a toitally new direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frontman, it&#039;s based on the Grendeur, so very much same car other than sunroof and LEDs lol! I can&#039;t see 10000 Grandeurs sold a month, hence can&#039;t see 10000 VG&#039;s sold per month. Keep dreaming though...

Oh, and since when do 10 year olds buy cars hahaha. Or are educated in cars? I wanted a space shuttle and a tank when I was ten, and I still haven&#039;t got one :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frontman, it&#8217;s based on the Grendeur, so very much same car other than sunroof and LEDs lol! I can&#8217;t see 10000 Grandeurs sold a month, hence can&#8217;t see 10000 VG&#8217;s sold per month. Keep dreaming though&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and since when do 10 year olds buy cars hahaha. Or are educated in cars? I wanted a space shuttle and a tank when I was ten, and I still haven&#8217;t got one :(</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan, I did the what car do you want at my nephews 10th b/day party last month, and guess what? I got the standard answers of HSV, Falcon GT /Typhoon, BMW, Porsche Ferrari Lambo. I even got a couple of GTR&#039;s and a Rolls. Funny thing that you might like to know was that there was not one &quot;ASPIRATIONAL&quot; Lexus!! Funny when I ask around a few Bbq&#039;s and offices etc, I never get one! 
You state that no one will buy an entry level luxury car (or did you say $100,000 car)  from a manufacturer that builds a $13,990 car, yet even the Americans aren&#039;t silly enough to think that LExus Toyota and Scion are different companies. Mecedes Benz has no trouble selling poverty pack A class along side their Ubber Luxury S series. What about those people buying Yaris next to the person buying a Landcruiser Sahara at $110,000?? Doesn&#039;t seem to have any adverse effect on them. IF this comes here and is marketed around the $40k area it will do it&#039;s 10000/ month and I reckon that&#039;d be all they are asking of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan, I did the what car do you want at my nephews 10th b/day party last month, and guess what? I got the standard answers of HSV, Falcon GT /Typhoon, BMW, Porsche Ferrari Lambo. I even got a couple of GTR&#8217;s and a Rolls. Funny thing that you might like to know was that there was not one &#8220;ASPIRATIONAL&#8221; Lexus!! Funny when I ask around a few Bbq&#8217;s and offices etc, I never get one!<br />
You state that no one will buy an entry level luxury car (or did you say $100,000 car)  from a manufacturer that builds a $13,990 car, yet even the Americans aren&#8217;t silly enough to think that LExus Toyota and Scion are different companies. Mecedes Benz has no trouble selling poverty pack A class along side their Ubber Luxury S series. What about those people buying Yaris next to the person buying a Landcruiser Sahara at $110,000?? Doesn&#8217;t seem to have any adverse effect on them. IF this comes here and is marketed around the $40k area it will do it&#8217;s 10000/ month and I reckon that&#8217;d be all they are asking of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never know Pious, they could have the same brake hose supplier as Ford :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never know Pious, they could have the same brake hose supplier as Ford :)</p>
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		<title>By: ChineseDriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChineseDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful clothes cannot hide the emptiness inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful clothes cannot hide the emptiness inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Pious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldnt know - seemed to be more sonatas and whatever the 4wd hyundai things are, than anything.  It might be that Hyundai have product placement in korean movies.  But the street scenes themselves generally are absolutely full of korean cars, so much so that if you see a corolla, it sticks out. BTW, South Korea has the highest incidence of traffic related deaths and injuries in the developed world, I believe.  I hope that isnt a reflection on the brakes in these things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldnt know &#8211; seemed to be more sonatas and whatever the 4wd hyundai things are, than anything.  It might be that Hyundai have product placement in korean movies.  But the street scenes themselves generally are absolutely full of korean cars, so much so that if you see a corolla, it sticks out. BTW, South Korea has the highest incidence of traffic related deaths and injuries in the developed world, I believe.  I hope that isnt a reflection on the brakes in these things!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, in Korea of course. Does the Grandeur (which this car is based on) sell in high numbers? I can&#039;t even remember last one I saw one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, in Korea of course. Does the Grandeur (which this car is based on) sell in high numbers? I can&#8217;t even remember last one I saw one.</p>
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		<title>By: Pious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks OK to me, though my experience with a korean car was short lived and relatively tragic (for my wallet).  From my vast knowledge of korea (I watch a lot of korean movies, which are really good, BTW) (said tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek for god&#039;s sake!), the roads seem to be full of Korean cars, you see very few japanese or european cars (far less in proportion that you might see foreign cars in Oz), so I&#039;d guess this thing will sell in high numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks OK to me, though my experience with a korean car was short lived and relatively tragic (for my wallet).  From my vast knowledge of korea (I watch a lot of korean movies, which are really good, BTW) (said tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek for god&#8217;s sake!), the roads seem to be full of Korean cars, you see very few japanese or european cars (far less in proportion that you might see foreign cars in Oz), so I&#8217;d guess this thing will sell in high numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Salesman says “History Repeating”</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Salesman says “History Repeating”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Dan people used to say the same thing 40 years ago when Toyota started importing to Australia. I remember an ad on TV that sunk a Toyota into the ground that was then driven over the top of by a Valliant.  Any analyst will tell you if you want to know the future you should look to the past. Hyundai – Kia are following the same path carved out by Toyota. Will they succeed?  If history has anything to tell us then the answer is yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Dan people used to say the same thing 40 years ago when Toyota started importing to Australia. I remember an ad on TV that sunk a Toyota into the ground that was then driven over the top of by a Valliant.  Any analyst will tell you if you want to know the future you should look to the past. Hyundai – Kia are following the same path carved out by Toyota. Will they succeed?  If history has anything to tell us then the answer is yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed they copied the door&#039;s from the IS250... Espcially the rear door part where it curves up towards the back, and the rear quarter window is the same shape. I guess they gotta be inspired from something decent...

The front headlights look like they came from the FG...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed they copied the door&#8217;s from the IS250&#8230; Espcially the rear door part where it curves up towards the back, and the rear quarter window is the same shape. I guess they gotta be inspired from something decent&#8230;</p>
<p>The front headlights look like they came from the FG&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t either mate. It&#039;s based on the Hyundai Grandeur after all... don&#039;t see many of those on the street. Doubt will see much of the VG either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t either mate. It&#8217;s based on the Hyundai Grandeur after all&#8230; don&#8217;t see many of those on the street. Doubt will see much of the VG either.</p>
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		<title>By: Falcodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falcodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Lukaas, based on that photo i think it looks better than Lexus. When i see other pics then i&#039;ll make up my mind for sure.

And Scion, those things are butt ugly! Thank christ we cant get them here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Lukaas, based on that photo i think it looks better than Lexus. When i see other pics then i&#8217;ll make up my mind for sure.</p>
<p>And Scion, those things are butt ugly! Thank christ we cant get them here.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, yeah, but I think that Hyundai was going to be put above the Genesis though and only sold in Korea?

If this were sold in Australia, I don&#039;t really expect it to go higher than AU$40,000</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, yeah, but I think that Hyundai was going to be put above the Genesis though and only sold in Korea?</p>
<p>If this were sold in Australia, I don&#8217;t really expect it to go higher than AU$40,000</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was just a figure. Wasn&#039;t there an article about Hyundai thinking of selling some car for 100K+ the other week?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was just a figure. Wasn&#8217;t there an article about Hyundai thinking of selling some car for 100K+ the other week?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
So you really think that KIA are going to charge &quot;$100k+&quot; for a near-luxury bit larger than a mid-size sedan, that is this car?

Theres no word of pricing at all, yet. Where is the &quot;$100k+&quot; coming from exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
So you really think that KIA are going to charge &#8220;$100k+&#8221; for a near-luxury bit larger than a mid-size sedan, that is this car?</p>
<p>Theres no word of pricing at all, yet. Where is the &#8220;$100k+&#8221; coming from exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you&#039;d say that Salesman, you sell them!

And of course any Kia would be considered a &#039;luxury&#039; car in India! Crikey, they drive scooters there, and enter lottery to win the right to buy a Tata Nano! I&#039;m sorry Salesman, but I don&#039;t buy that argument. What some consider &#039;luxury&#039;, others consider as basic. Standards vary across the globe. Let&#039;s speak in terms of highly developed western countries shall we? Kia isn&#039;t a luxury car mate :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you&#8217;d say that Salesman, you sell them!</p>
<p>And of course any Kia would be considered a &#8216;luxury&#8217; car in India! Crikey, they drive scooters there, and enter lottery to win the right to buy a Tata Nano! I&#8217;m sorry Salesman, but I don&#8217;t buy that argument. What some consider &#8216;luxury&#8217;, others consider as basic. Standards vary across the globe. Let&#8217;s speak in terms of highly developed western countries shall we? Kia isn&#8217;t a luxury car mate :)</p>
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		<title>By: The Salesman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Salesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outside these shores Kia is considered a luxury brand. China, India and Korea all would pay more to own a luxury Korean car. I would happily pay a premium to buy a car that has everything a German or Japanese car has for thousands less. So would most Australians it seems. Example, Lexus is just a Toyota. Mercedes is just a Chrysler. Renault is just a Nissan. And so on. I applaud any company that is willing to offer me better quality and more bang for my buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside these shores Kia is considered a luxury brand. China, India and Korea all would pay more to own a luxury Korean car. I would happily pay a premium to buy a car that has everything a German or Japanese car has for thousands less. So would most Australians it seems. Example, Lexus is just a Toyota. Mercedes is just a Chrysler. Renault is just a Nissan. And so on. I applaud any company that is willing to offer me better quality and more bang for my buck.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, would you really pay $100K+ for a car with a Kia badge? Seriously, would you?

Global company or not, so far their main business objective was/is to be the cheapest there is, in the econobox market. As that&#039;s how they make their many sales. Luxury market is a totally different ball game. Obvious isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, would you really pay $100K+ for a car with a Kia badge? Seriously, would you?</p>
<p>Global company or not, so far their main business objective was/is to be the cheapest there is, in the econobox market. As that&#8217;s how they make their many sales. Luxury market is a totally different ball game. Obvious isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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