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2009 Holden Caprice Review & Road Test

HOLDEN CAPRICE

Pros: Power & handling; generous interior proportions; stylish & masculine looks

Cons: Auto calibration & shunting; average interior quality; 'A' pillar visibility

By Matt Brogan |
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2009 Holden Caprice AFM V8 Review & Road Test

Will AFM stop Caprice from going the way of the Dodo?

Model Tested:

  • 2009 Holden WM Caprice, 6.0-litre, AFM V8, six-speed automatic, sedan – $74,490 (RRP)

Options:

  • Sunroof $1990 (Fitted); Satellite Navigation $1990 (Fitted); Alarm Upgrade $720 (Fitted); Holden Assist Telematics Ultra $2200 (Fitted)

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- by Matt Brogan

The Caprice nameplate first appeared in 1971 to sit atop Holden’s HQ series and in turn replace the superseded Brougham. Since that time, with the exception of a six year hiatus in the late 1980s, Caprice has represented the pinnacle of full-size luxury motoring for the Holden marque.

Today the Statesman and Caprice remain as the only locally built full-sized sedans available with Ford’s Fairlane and LTD having sadly gone the way of the dodo, and perhaps as a sign of where large cars are headed.

So with values changing and car sizes shrinking does the politically incorrect Caprice still deserve to exist?  Furthermore, does the introduction of Active Fuel Management (AFM) present enough of a fuel saving to keep our much-loved land barge from extinction?

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Before we get in to all that technical mumbo-jumbo, it would be remiss of me not to first pass comment as to the looks of the Caprice.

Now I know looks are subjective, but to me, externally at least, the Caprice is a very handsome car. It’s bold presence and masculine styling bring an elegant charisma to the road in a way that short wheelbase cars can’t quite seem to manage.

Long flowing lines, subtle chrome highlights and proportions that whilst augmented somehow don’t appear unbecoming stylistically, all of which adds heart to that capricious and boastful character one would expect from a top-shelf sedan.

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Internally however the Caprice leaves me feeling somewhat deflated as the hectares of simple black plastic and unremarkable black leather detract from the experience as a whole.

Just as underwhelming is the quality of the switch gear, the dated appearance of the satellite navigation page, the feel of the gear selector and the noise from the roof mounted rear DVD player, all of which deny other more enjoyable attributes of the cabin, such as the terrific Bose stereo, any atmosphere in which to be fully appreciated.

Simply these faults could be attributed to the car’s design age and perhaps have not stood the test of time as well as the exterior shape. One can only hope a marked improvement is seen in the new model due sometime next year.

Proportionally though the car is very rewarding with hip, shoulder, head and leg room generous in all five seating positions. The seats however aren’t entirely supportive, and are a little flat, but their sheer size gives that armchair feeling for which the Caprice is perhaps best renowned.

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Moving on now to the technical side of things with the highlight feature of the car being Holden’s new Active Fuel Management system.

Known by a few different names throughout the industry (cylinder deactivation, displacement on demand, etc), AFM works by using an electronically actuated solenoid that in turn deactivates the lifters on certain cylinders (1, 4, 6 and 7) by using the engine oil to hydraulically modulate the valve function, effectively ‘turning off’ half the engine’s capacity.

High-quality oil with anti-foaming agents must therefore be used to prevent any air being entrained or dissolved in the oil which could in turn delay the timing of hydraulic control signals.

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But with the car running on four of its eight cylinders does this new found technology equate to better fuel economy? Well as far as I could determine – no.

Despite Holden claiming economy gains of up to 7.5 per cent, the Caprice managed to get through the week averaging 15.8-litres per 100km, some 2.8-litres above the claimed ADR result.

Perhaps though this isn’t entirely unexpected given the size of the engine, for under the bonnet a 6.0-litre V8 provides the Caprice with 260kW at 5700rpm and a rather chunky 517Nm at 4400rpm.

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For a large car, weighing in at some 1837kgs, the Caprice certainly does have enough get up and go with 0-100 times well under seven seconds (6.79 seconds as tested) and a top speed of 227km/h (claimed).

Handling too is predictable and certainly very capable with much less ‘float’ at higher speeds than that of it’s VE cousin. Steering is a touch on the heavy side, but generally well weighted with the possible exception that small inputs at high speed do see much more output than is necessarily expected.

Though what comes as a disappointment to an otherwise rewarding drive is the poorly calibrated six-speed automatic transmission, and the associated ‘shunting’ this mismatch causes the driveline.

Reapplication of throttle, no matter how gently progressive, will see a momentary delay followed by a sharp ‘grab’ that causes a jarring sensation through the whole car. The quicker the throttle is reintroduced, the stronger the shunt.

I have noticed this scenario in other Holden V8 six-speed cars before, but the long wheel-base seems to exaggerate the sensation. It’s not pleasant, and although this vehicle is a very early example of an AFM Caprice (having probably had the life beaten out of it), the lack of driveline refinement still comes as a bit of a concern.

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Boot space is tremendous at 535-litres and the cargo net (shown above) is very handy when you’ve only on or two small items on board.

As with all full-size Holdens 60:40 split fold seats are a glaring omission with a “ski-hatch” instead provided as means of substitution.

For safety’s sake the Caprice comes standard with dual front, side and curtain airbags, ESP with Traction Control and ABS braking with EBA and EBD to achieve a four-star ANCAP rating.

The way I see it V8 fans won’t mind the fuel consumption figures given the added performance on hand and for those wanting a large car with more economic orientations a six cylinder option is available.

The Caprice, as nice as it is, could do with an update, especially internally, but despite a few short comings does represent pretty good value for the price.

I suppose when all is said and done the decision to buy one is all about where your priorities lie, and if it’s a matter of size over substance, you could do far worse for the money.

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Specifications:

  • Engine: 5967cc OHV V8 (16 valve)
  • Power: 260kW @ 5700rpm
  • Torque: 517Nm @ 4400rpm
  • Induction: Multi-point
  • Transmission: Six-speed automatic
  • Driven Wheels: Rear
  • Brakes: Discs with ABS, EBA & EBD
  • Top Speed: 227km/h (Claimed)
  • 0-100km/h: 6.79 seconds
  • CO2 Emissions: TBC
  • Fuel Consumption: 13.0 litres per 100km (ADR)
  • Fuel Consumption: 15.8 litres per 100km (As Tested)
  • Fuel Tank Capacity: 73 litres
  • Fuel Type: 91-98 RON petrol
  • ANCAP Rating: Four-stars
  • Airbags: Front, side & curtain
  • Safety: ESP with traction control
  • Spare Wheel: Full size alloy
  • Suspension: Strut (F)/Multi-Link (R)
  • Cargo Capacity: 535 litres
  • Tow Capacity: 2100kg (Braked)
  • Turning Circle: 11.6 metres
  • Warranty: Three Year/100,000km
  • Weight: 1837kg (Tare)
  • Wheels: Alloy 18 x 8.0-inch

 

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  • john a

    i think you will find that the caprice name was first used on the HJ range in 1975.

  • zahmad

    You need those headlights on HSV Commodore’s!

  • EOTC

    GMH are always going to struggle from a serious perception problem with this car. The type of people who are going to spend $70K + on a car, are looking for more than a bit of power and some basic luxury features. Mostly, they are buying ‘perception’. I say that because it seems we have been trained to accept the euro cars as the benchmark (even if some of them don’t deserve it), and the Caprice will always struggle with the concept of it being a slightly bigger Commodore with a DVD in the back of the headrests. It’s a shame, but they can’t market a car as a premium luxury option, then fall down in areas such as “a dated and average interior quality”, “the poor quality of the switch gear” or the “poorly calibrated transmission”. That is not a premium purchase.

  • Simonsez

    Such a pleasure to read something honest and objective.Have to wonder if the down line owners of this vehicle when it reaches the second hand trade will continue to appreciate the need for anti-foaming oil.Recently read some motor mag saying how fuel efficient
    this thing was if you kept it between 95 – 100 kph on a trip. Can’t really see the “typical” Caprice owner wasting his/her time on such nonsense and glad that you put the lie to it.

  • The Realist

    “Just as underwhelming is the quality of the switch gear, the dated appearance of the satellite navigation page, the feel of the gear selector and the noise from the roof mounted rear DVD player, all of which deny other more enjoyable attributes of the cabin, such as the terrific Bose stereo, any atmosphere in which to be fully appreciated.”

    Just like I mentioned in a previous blog! Had to get picked up in Perth in one of these, and saw all the drawbacks first hand.

    It’s a good looking car, perhaps not as nice as the Calais V, but the cheapness diminishes the impact.

    “Simply these faults could be attributed to the car’s design age”

    There is no excuse for Holden – sit and drive a 1998 BMW 740i and see how well it is insulated from the outside and the feeling of luxury for both front and rear seat passengers. Even a 1998 Lexus LS430.

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    Hired the six cylinder version last year for a bit of extra space when we went down to Abbey Beach ,served its purpose well ,plenty of room,kids werent fighting over whos looking out whos window,the only gripe was the finish of the interior from the 14 year old . He was adamant that the fit and finish was much better in the BF Cobra :P

    My gripe, not enough grunt in the 6 plus its auto didnt kick back fast enough for me . I guess its what your used to !

    Exterior I think its a great looking car ,although they stole those lights off a 5 series I think ;)

  • Bret

    No I don’t think that AFM will save Statesman/Caprice.
    If they are to survive it will have to be with a much more efficient engine, maybe a decent low boost turbo six with the lot.
    V8′s in this type of vehicle will eventually become an expensive option.

  • AussieCars

    Still one of the best looking LWB cars in the world today IMO. Really saying something about the holden design team considering how old it is.

    • dave

      Love the look, and would love to have one for my next car. A nice update for my WH Statesman. Great car, great value.

  • Bret

    Matt,

    What RON fuel did you use for your test?

    Holden quote power figures based on 95RON, do they use the same fuel for the ADR fuel consumption test?

    Long term I don’t see a future for any car that doesn’t better 10 l/100km ADR combined.

  • Damian

    The upcoming Skoda Superb will be a viable contender to the Statesman/Caprice. It has about just as much room, but with much more efficient engines. The flagship Superb with the 3.6L V6 FSI and AWD costs around $55k – which is the RRP for a V6 Statesman. The Superb is much better equipped and finished.

    • Dave

      Let us know when the entire Skoda range sell as many cars as the Caprice. Skoda will never have the prestige of any Holden. They will never match the caprice in Styling, space or performance either.

      There are Germans that are similar size for mabe $100 000 more but after 10 years they will be worth the same, and the local car will always the cheaper maintain and service.

  • Will

    Agreed Damian. The Skoda will be a superior product more relevant to our times.

    Sad Holden havn’t got a slush box, or viable alternative that works in this day and age, and there isn’t even a diesel option.

  • Golfschwein

    The Skoda looks seriously plush and better finished as well.

    But you’ve gotta give it to Holden for external styling. Oh, and I once had a Commodore VH with the 4.2V8 and Traumatic tranny. The Traumatics used to shunt in the very same way.

  • Damian

    I am glad that you agree, Will. The Caprice only seems to excel at one thing, being straight line speed. Of course, you’d expect a bucket load of grunt from a 6.0L V8. The rest of the package leaves a lot to be desired. It’s heavy, poorly built and finished, and we all know that reliability isn’t Holden’s forte.

    Holden, having equipped its V8 lineup with AFM, understands that the market is changing, although it’s questionable whether AFM really works in real world applications.

    The Skoda Superb is a much more appealing vehicle in our climate, with a choice of advanced petrol and diesel engines coupled with DSG. This is not to mention Skoda’s innovative TwinDoor variable boot opening. In “Elegance” guise, the Superb makes a VERY convincing case for itself.

  • Will

    Hi Damian.

    I know, I own and have driven an Octavia 103kw CDI DSG Elegance wagon for over a year now and am very impressed.

    I look forward to the brand progressing.

    I shall be looking at Superb possibly in 125kw CDI guise in about a year and half.

  • AussieCars

    And yet the Skoda Superb as great as it in specs and build quality still suffers from something all Skoda`s do at the moment.
    They look ugly IMO. If I didnt know anything about the Skoda brand and someone asked me just by looking at the car from the outside where it was from my first guess would be China. I know looks arent everything, but I do not wish to drive a car that looks so oddball. Still if looks are not that important to you then yes the Skoda Superb is a good buy.

  • Bret

    What are you guys on? I’ve got no doubt the Skoda is a fine car but it’s TWO SIZES smaller than the Caprice.
    It’s a bit like camparing a BMW 3 series to a 7 series.
    Both fine cars but they don’t compete in the same market.

    The Skoda is 322mm shorter, 82mm narrower with a 250mm shorter wheelbase. Considering those dimension differences, at only 172kg lighter it could easily be said that the V6 Skoda is an overweight pig.

  • Dan

    Mediocre at best. About the only thing going for this car is its power and straight line speed. As far as luxury goes, the size is the only thing good about it. You’d expect quality and refinement in a luxury car. This car has none. Might as well buy a HSV instead and stop kidding yourself.

  • AussieCars

    Will

    First off the Statesman is not sold in Europe or the US. I can understand why they dont like Vauxhall VXR8 as a clubsport isnt everyones cup of tea( I am not a big fan of all the bolt on bits myself and I much prefer the standard VE rear lights over clubbies) And the grill and bonnet scoops on the pontiac are hideous.

    Secondly I know Holdens are always a step behind the euro`s mechanically and in build quality. But what I dont agree with is you saying the Skoda is considered very stylish in Europe….
    These people know nothing about style, all they care about is what badge is on the bonnet and where it is made.

    Most Audi`s and Mercs are stylish, the Skoda`s are just plain ugly and there styling reminds me of cars from China or India.

    I dont doubt Skoda`s are great cars ….but the Skoda Superb has nothing on the Statesman in the exterior styling department. And thats saying something for a car built and designs years before the Skoda.

  • AussieCars

    Sorry guys I will let the Skoda`s go now I had my rant.

    One thing Im curious about is the auto tranny. From what I read from other sources I thought the auto had been fixed and was now almost on par with the ford`s 6 speed auto. Yet these last 2 holden reviews Ive read here seem to state otherwise. Is it because of the AFM engine? Did they try and recalobrate the auto again for it and bugger it up?

  • Geoff

    I am currently driving a VE SS AFM 09 ute.I Have had 3 VE SS 6 litre non AFM utes prior ( not owned by myself but driven excluvely by myself). From my driving so far I can say that the improvement in fuel economy in the AFM for the average driver is inconsequential and the results are inconclusive. Under absolutely perfect conditions ( flat road no wind no traffic constant speed ) you can expect a maximum of 4 % only. I have kept detailed fuel records ( for 10,000 Km in each of the 4 vehicles) for the 3 NON AFM utes and one AFM ute. All VE all 6 litres. With normal every day driving the improvement is even less. There is no way that the improvement is 1 litre per 100 km better as GMH has claimed. Perhaps at best it would be .3 of a litre under perfect conditions which is a rare occurrence. For the average driver at 20,000km per year I estimate (at Best) to be up to $150 saving per year. In reality though I would be surprised if many drivers saved even $100 a year in fuel. My overall assessment is that AFM is overrated. I am an accountant and have a passion for facts which is the basis to these remarks.

  • Dan

    Looks like Holden should ditch the AFM and take some pages from Toyota’s book and go for a hybrid :)

  • Bret

    Dan, or a decent turbo six, or Diesel.

  • Limited slip

    What a ripoff…….How amny people knew that they decreased the power by 10kw and readuced the torque as well? I didnt see any adverts saying less power with AFM. What a waste of money this is, it makes hardly any difference at all and you get a less powerful engine as a surprise!! Another joke from Holden.

  • Devil666

    Also, I really think that AFM benefits are fundamentally derived from driving style (good luck replicating that!), so really the only way to discover the reduced consumption would be to try for yourself.

    Considering Commodores (well, large cars in general) are typically becoming secondary cars or more long distance cruisers, this is where you are going to find the real benefits of this system.

    Matt, what sort of driving environments did you cover? I feel that question is too important to ignore when assessing the viability of a fuel saving system, knowing the nature and purpose of such a car.

    With a figure like 15.8, it sounds like it was a mostly town/city based adventure, a situation which would see me pick the 944 over the Calais V8 :P

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Matt

    Hey Devil,

    Driving this week consisted of two-thirds urban / one-third highway cruising.

    Even being relatively light-footed, traffic kills the consumption in this beast.

    Fuel used initially was 95RON Premium Unleaded as supplied from Holden, then topped up mid-week with 98RON (for the second fill).

    Hope this helps mate.

    Cheers, Matt.

  • Devil666

    Cheers Matt.

    One can only hope this seemingly stop-gap measure makes way for that Duramax V8 Diesel in GM’s arsenal….

    Oh no, that engine was cancelled :(

  • Limited slip

    Just reading latest news on GM……they are worse of than anyone could have imagined…..job losses will be far greater than the 47,000 stated a while ago. Holden will be seriously affected. even talk of them getting rid of their european business……if they do that then hopefully Holden will get the chop too. The great GM empire is no more. They will emerge as a small American only car company……if they emerge at all.

  • Shak

    Will, holden dont have access to cutting edge technology from their miserable parent, whereas Skoda have beautiful tech thanks to the mighty VW. Lets hope the Superb succeeds but not at the expense of the Caprice’s death. Lets hope Holdens diesel and lpg commo’s come by the end of the year.

  • Gary M

    Matt well written.Surprisingly you picked up on the very things why I did not purchase this Caprice that I had been waiting so long for.Just he feel of the gear shifter left me cold and showed a lack of quality that I could not live with.Add the oh sO drab interior,large steering wheel,not so great insulation from wind and road noise ,stone age Sat Nav,general feel of the materials used even the loud indicator relay noise and I decided to keep going with my used imported car path which I have done after 20 years of Holdens and another 30 by my Father before that.Having expereinced Holden dealer service for all that time too and it made no sense to go down that path any longer.Lets hope it improves for the big cars future but it may be heading to the Dodo as you say if it does not.

  • Devil666

    Limited Slip:

    Hopefully Holden get the chop? You note you have been researching the current fiscal chaos of the American parent, but you seem not to understand the full repercussions of a worst case scenario for the Australian Motoring Industry.

    Here’s an extract from drive.com.au, “GM crisis will prompt a review of Holden”

    “A Holden shut-down could easily trigger the collapse of the entire local industry, as suppliers would be sent to the wall and the remaining local car makers, Ford and Toyota would be faced with a consumer confidence crisis.

    Local executives at both Ford and Toyota are understood to be nervous about the demise of the iconic Australian brand and the message it would send to the market.”

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    agree devil 666,

    if one read’s all lsd’s input,it’s simply pro-ford dribble.ask any other pro-ford guy with 1/2 a brain,and they will tell you that the whole world’s entire auto industry would be devastated if g.m. was forced under.ditto opel,holden etc.but hey,the bloke probably needs to follow the drive.com blogs at read up on dingo.go on now…report me…..

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    well limited slip,you can race out and buy a l.t.d.what that,whats the date got to do with it…

  • Damian

    “Lets hope the Superb succeeds but not at the expense of the Caprice’s death. Lets hope Holdens diesel and lpg commo’s come by the end of the year.”

    I highly doubt that the Superb would contribute to the Caprice’s demise, Shak. At the end of the day, the Superb doesn’t have enough PERCEIVED prestige to join those hire car ranks, whereas the Statesman/Caprice already have an established position within the hire car community.

    If the Caprice does get buried, it would be due to its lack of merit. This would be easily alleviated with a grunty diesel engine and better gearbox tuning.

  • the fact

    whether you like it or not GM HOLDEN will shut the door sooner or later.so the australian government should not hand out any more money for them.this is a lesson for all other car markers in australia you cannot survive if you design your car only for fleet market and bad reputation on build quality .any wonder out of 10 commodores sold only 2 went to private buyers.sorry…if you not lift your game for so long then nobody to blame.

  • Alex

    So what’s the point of this car? Is it meant to be a bin for your money? A failing attempt to make you look richer? Or is it just so in five years when it’s worth $8,000 some greasy looking twenty year old can put as much body kit/spoiler/chrome on as possible because they think it looks cool?

  • Wheelnut

    Quote: “the Australian government should not hand out any more money for them as this is a lesson for the other car makers in Australia you cannot survive if you design your car only for fleet market….”

    Aahh I thought this article was meant to be about Holden [Commodore/SS/Calais/Statesman/Ute/Wagon > HSV] and not Toyota [Camry/Aurion > TRD?]

  • Wheelnut

    Bret – I agree with you about the engine.. I think Holden/HSV should look at the possibility of introducing a range of cars with smaller engine such as the Cadillac Northstar 4.6 Litre V8 which produces approx 360 BHP [520BHP if supercharged]
    That way it would make more of a distinction between the models. I mean why pay extra for a Caprice [or a GTS] when itsgot the same engine and power as a SS [or Clubbie]

  • Dan

    Alex said – “So what’s the point of this car? Is it meant to be a bin for your money? A failing attempt to make you look richer? Or is it just so in five years when it’s worth $8,000 some greasy looking twenty year old can put as much body kit/spoiler/chrome on as possible because they think it looks cool?”

    That is so spot on! Well said!

  • Cupid Stunt

    Can’t honestly see the point of AFM. Make no difference to consumption on the urban environment and when its cruising at 100kays its cuts in meaning you’ve bought a car thats too powerful. Pointless really. Sorry. I’d buy the Skoda with a big diesel engine and do 6.3′s/100.

  • Alex

    Jekyl, you’re right. I absolutely don’t understand the point of a budget limousine that is completely lacking in badge prestige. Because a limousine isn’t about good quality, prestige, exclusivity (that can only come with a high price), class and style – oh wait, yes it is.
    I’ve never seen a Statesman/Caprice that isn’t being driven by either an old man or a twenty year old who has fitted oversized chrome wheels and (for some reason) a Chevrolet badge.

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    wow, what a ride!

  • Goodfa

    Holden really need to freshen up the interior of all models for the VF upgrade.

    Interior and V6 drive train is where they lag the opposition.

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    alex,

    disagree,i’ve seen plenty of well to do guys in their 40′s and 50′s in caprices.and i know alot of extremely rich blokes who could buy ANYTHING buy them too.it comes down to choice in the end.toyota don’t make anything like it.neither does mits, ford,hell anyone…

  • Alex

    You’re right Jekyl, nobody else makes budget limousines. Funny that.
    And if your friends choose this over anything, they are idiots. Not to mention that I would strongly doubt that people who could have anything would go for this over, well, anything. After all, anything includes BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, Porsche, Maserati, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover – the list goes on. Nobody would have a Holden if they could afford anything.
    If it comes down to choice then they’re not just making the wrong one, they’re being stupid about it too.

  • Damian

    “After all, anything includes BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, Porsche, Maserati, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover – the list goes on.”

    I guess at the end of the day, for $75k, one can either get a brand new Caprice with a three year Holden warranty, or something like a 2005 Lexus LS430 with relatively low kilometers. The only real benefit derived from buying the Holden would be the three year manufacturer’s warranty.

    Unless you run hire cars, I doubt that you’d take a second glance at the Caprice if you were in the market for an S-Class, 7 Series, LS460 or A8.

    The Caprice makes sense as a “budget” limosine, but it should really be considered as an alternative to an entry model E-Class, A6 or 5 series, since they are in the same price range.

    • tass diak

      i know what your talking about when you talk about e class but my caprice kicks a 5 sears bmw to the cerb maby you shoud comper the caprice to a 7 sears and then again that hasn’t changed shape in 10 years or more even the new one looks like the previos

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    alex,

    forget it.your just living your life like a trotter(round and round with the blinkers on..),and there not my mates,but they are respected business people.one particular bloke would seriously be one of the richest heads in aust(and his wife drives a merc)…

  • Dan

    Must be the inner bogan in him then Jekyl :)

  • Pious

    Volvo s80 in the turbo diesel is pretty close to the money, and a nice car too, I’d say superior, and the (far better) V8 is just on a hundred. (he pauses while the readers laugh). No really, they are good cars, and pretty stylish. No, really, I mean it (why doesnt anyone take me seriously…)

  • The Realist

    JEKYL & HYDE Says:
    April 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    “one particular bloke would seriously be one of the richest heads in aust(and his wife drives a merc)…”

    Richest in Australia? So his fortune is estimated at one billion dollars plus? And this bloke would purchase a $70K Holden instead of something bespoke from Europe? Is he an alumni from Mt Druitt who won the biggest lottery ever?

  • Buck

    Unless you need the extra room it would appear to be a slam dunk for the FG Falcon’s G6ET rather than this Caprice.

    Not only is the Ford a better handling car with a vastly superior drive-train with the German ZF auto, its heaps quicker at around 5.2 seconds to 100km/hr, has more power, more torque and uses considerably less fuel, AND at least with the Falcon you’ve got a good chance they will be around to honour the warranty, supply parts and service, OTOH with with the Holden or any HSV for that matter, who knows ?

  • Ryan

    No matter how you dress it up, it’s still holden… (aka a boganmobile….)

  • Michael

    Just three words Ugly, Overpriced, badly build.

  • cnryle

    Coming from the owner of the virtually Identical WM 2006 V8 Caprice with GPS fitted (purchased new); i found this review pretty flimsy and critical. The caprice must be judged by it’s purpose for being – That of a car built for someone who desires the most rear legroom of any car under the $200,000 ie 740Li, S350L etc.

    They are not built for fuel economy, for parking in small spots (that’s what parking sensors on it are for) & those without children.

    - Immense power
    - Suspension that soaks up rough australian roads
    - A great sound system
    - Full size seats with adequate side bolstering, high shoulder support & under knee support.
    - Very good road grip
    - Self leveling suspension that prevents grounding of a boat being towed.
    All for under $80,000

    Actually the interior fit & finish is 10 steps above the WH Caprice & 20 steps above the VR (both of which i’ve owned previously).

    To get the above in one package i need to advance $120,000 for something made in thailand…aka Bmw 7 Series.

    The writer of this review obviously is a European Hatchback fanatic with no kids or boat…

  • Lozza

    Well I am about to pick up my first V8 WM Caprice this week brand new from the dealer. I have owned Lexus, Landrover/Range Rovers and to be honest cant wait to get my Caprice. Like the previous blogger said unless you want to purchse something for $200k for under $75k they are a real buy for big car.
    Each to their own but I am looking forward to mine.

  • AM for PM

    I must say, I drive a WK 03/04 caprice and I somehow prefer the inner styling more-so then this one. Saying that, once the WK has finished its lease, I will take this one for a drive and possibly upgrade. At the end of the day, if you love large cars with lots of nice features, a Caprice is the right way to go. After owning a Caprice, there is no way I would go to a Statesman. These cars can be picked up well undervalued (IMO) just 2-5 years old. With the recession, even the 1 year old ones are getting pretty affordable.

  • Andrew

    Hi I’ve looked at BMW etc at around 75K they are very nice cars but too small and don’t suit much more than the designer label suit case little own towing something. The BMW has lots of extra buttons for steering column, the front section of the seat base, even a motor to raise the head rest, however this nice $79K car just happened to have the sports and exec pack added, I could not see the base model and was sitting in a $105k on road 520?
    Ref by below post any good fuel stats on the AFM around
    the city suburbs?

    The best Holden I’ve owned recently was the runout WL Stateman Int with the old 4 speed and 270 (it was 290kw)
    it was great to hit 80km in first and upset many car owners that had paid 150k. That aside yes Holden is behind with engine options the AFM does not sound too flash, at least the SS manual/all manuals can only get the non-AFM still have 270kw. The best option after market I’ve seen was at the Melbourne Motor show, a Holden V8 supercharged and on gas 50l tank were the spare goes. Then I guess after all that money you could buy a BMW 540, can’t say I’ve seen one towing anything though!

    Andrew Says:
    June 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
    Hello I’ve heard the new (in Australia) Holden V8 AFM
    system drives from Melbourne to Sydney without refuelling.
    We are about to renew our Caprice (with a LSD option!)has anyone done the fuel stats around town when the AFM is working? Nothing against AFM but who would buy a large V8 and be interested in getting 8L per 100KM in place of 9?
    You buy a nice car like a Caprice 1890kgs dry LWBase with a large V8 for reasons other that being great on fuel they are great value for money, and Aussie built. Back to my question 15, 20 and even 25L per 100km if your GPS puts you behind a tram! with AFM not working in first or second what are the around town per 100km fuel stats? I’m guessing you do end up saving 2 or 3 L per 100km driving across town. In ending I plan to remove the spare and run my new car on Gas, taxi drivers say the engine needs a new top end after 200,000km i guess the third or four owner will find out if that is true. Happy motoring whatever you drive. Andrew.

    Holden do something with your colour choice it’s so bad I’m changing from Black to White a good colour for a wedding car but not the new company car silver at least!

  • Deco

    My dad is currently owns a 2007 Caprice and it has been a great car for the family. No other car in its class can compete for the entertainment and luxury for the price. The Ford G6ET can go kiss my ass, it has nothing on this car =].

    He is looking at getting another and talking to the boys at our local Holden, they have told him that in September, the Caprice is receiving an update. Sadly, Holden hasn’t told dealers what the update is (so that customers will still buy the current model) but they have said that it will all lead to a more fulfilling and complete driving experience.

    Sounds fun, can’t wait =].

  • Andrew

    Orders have been completed for the old model Caprice, unless you buy what’s in the showroom or already booked for production (an August run/built car might still be able to have changes for some new customers) i.e. colour or engine. Some new orders now may have to wait for a delivery date and end up with the new changes on their car. I believe the engine/gearbox (new anyway) will be the same, it may even still be called a WM, maybe new dash and grill and my guess new wheels.

  • http://www.lhuda.com/vb lhuda.net

    beatifule it is

  • Andrew

    To the few that look at this site, it sounds like GM manager Mark Ruess (outgoing) will make an announcement Tue 04 Aug 11am a great way to sign off after doing a great job at the helm
    http://www.webtronwebcast.com/holden/video/
    with details of the WM10 – full range update. This may again be wrong this is second hand info from the Aust LS1 website. A large number of new Holden buyers are posting details of their new car being a VE10 or WM10 with a delivery date of mid to late Sep, I believe the Caprice will be end Sep.

  • Andrew

    If you read this site and can post on LS1 please cut this across.
    Ref WM problems.
    Little mention of tyre wear on the side 10mm of 245mm after 35k the tyres are not roadworthy (if you are selling!) mostly on the front, car drives straight and smooth at all speeds. One problem posted was side (7) led indicators cracking, I pushed (a stone chip does not crack the lens on the inside, they come apart)and had one replaced new importer means a complete assembly that must be painted as the new indicator does not fit into the original vent.
    You should be able to turn the tyre pressure sensors off yourself. The tyres are now $530 other brands that last longer are $300 but not as sticky. Auto wiper blades will activate if an insect craps over the sensor, so turn them off or you will trash the windscreen in less than two years. If you do clean the windscreen during the day turn the H/lights off or the auto headlight washers come on and you will end up with a rusted bonnet. Run the recommended oil in the engine and hit 5-6000 rpm every few weeks.
    Plugs last 90k but could cost $300 to replace, same for wipper blades very costly to replace. I’m most of the way through having all the front end rubbers/D’s/bushes etc replaced at 34k in saying that I use a few VIP cars that have done 100k more and don’t make any noises not one, run on gas and don’t miss a beat. I’ve looked at other luxury/sports cars and still more than happy to wait for a WM10.

  • Andrew

    Missed my last coment. Now the V6 has between 210 and 225kw in the Calias plus range, will the V8 option for 35kw of extra power still be $5000? that might slow the V8 sales somewhat even if the WM10 in Sep/Oct does go back up to 270kw with the SS manual still at 270 and HSV now at 320 plus. The Caprice is meant to be the luxury sports version of the statesman? where is the $8000 sports money apart from lower and 18inch wheels! a few more kw would be nice for the best car produced by GMH Aust.

    A minor fault fixed was the driving light switch, at times imposible to pull out due to the stupid angle, now concave not convex, ‘it does not work but not a warranty job’.
    To fix half the Caprice problems change your workshop and read the manual. Touch the light switch after you open the door and the timer is deactivated what ever you or the dealer set it to! i.e. lights on auto you drive into your garage during the day and you turn them off by going to park once the door is open you may end up with a flat battery the next morning.

  • Andrew

    2009 WM 10 Caprice and VE 2 VF
    HSV are showing an uncover date 09 09 09
    the WM 10 and VE 10 will already be on the road!

  • Juanita Poleviak

    After waiting for 2 months to take delivery of my new AFM V8 Caprice,how very very disappionted I was to have the motor blow up at 760kms at 10 Days old.How god dam generous were Holden to give me a poxy rental car for 2 weeks.What a lemon!!!! and I have since found out the model is said to be a complete lemon by the biggest fleet purchashers in the country.OH WHAT A HEAP OF CRAP,I now become hysterical every time I leave the city limits!

    • Byron

      So are you going to keep it anyway? What’s it like anyway? I love em but i’m only as teen. Just interested thats all.

    • zahmad

      What do you have now? Should have gone for the Skoda Superb V6!

      • dave

        Skoda? give me local any day – will they even be selling Skoda in Australia in 2 years?

  • Andrew

    WM CAPRICE V8 AUTO software system error.
    Juanita, I waited months due to a special order and also due to the car industry down turn changing the Elizabeth factory to one shift to save jobs.
    Did the engine blow up?, I believe the V8 6 Speed auto across the range WM and VE
    has been affected by the software, computer programing. This can be fixed very quickly. Cars now days are full of computer systems, all makes, if you google this topic many have had similar problems.
    We have been given a (new) loan car (at delivery time) very upsetting to see your new car locked at the dealer ship, not to be driven due to a computer software issue.
    Our WM08 gave us two years of great driving. This may be the last thing on your mind now, but if your considering after factory options while your car sits at the dealship, now would be the time to have options fitted and I’m guessing you may be able to get a very good price due to the circumstances. Lets hope we are driving our new cars before next weekend and you don’t require any new parts, only a software update. The biggest lemon I’ve been driven around in was actually a BMW 740
    the car should have been off the road due to the amount of warning lights on.
    Andrew.

  • Joe

    GMH VE 10 WM 10 SERIES V8 AUTO
    IS ANYONE DRIVING A NEW V8 AUTO SERIES 10 I’VE HEARD
    THEY ARE ALL OFF THE ROAD/RETURNED TO THE DEALERSHIP?
    IF YOU ARE DRIVING ONE PLEASE POST SOME DETAILS!

  • lndrover

    boys, keep the money in depreciation in your pocket and by a v6 se discovery 3. Like i did in 08 great car, and i dont even use it offroad !

    • Deco

      So why buy it… They’re made for off road use..

  • Shak

    Why do the Chinese get so much equipment, and such a luxurious interior in the Buick Park Avenue, when our Caprice has a tupperware interior.

  • tass diak

    i know what your talking about when you talk about e class but my caprice kicks a 5 sears bmw to the cerb maby you shoud comper the caprice to a 7 sears and then again that hasn\’t changed shape in 10 years or more even the new one looks like the previos

  • Paul

    I bought a brand new WM Caprice with a specially ordered LS7 (7.0 litre, 375kW 640Nm)engine, suspension, wheel and brake upgrades (6 piston 390mm, 4 piston 345mm.) I am vey happy with it- the 7 litre never lacks power and it pulls hard even from 220 km/h -all the way past 260 km/h. I havnt found its top speed as yet… I’ve owned it for four years now and never had a problem with it in that time.

  • Jesus

    Wow… I must have missed the LS7 option in the list when I ordered mine