Comments on: Nelson Piquet & Cameron McConville karting at Albert Park

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:18:11 +0000

Good thing noone makes you watch it then reckless.

Its still the number one motorsport in OZ though, so your comments count for nothing really

do you also say they are struggling to keep people interested in footy and cricket aswell since they have ongoing rule changes???

By: Reckless1

Reckless1 — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:36 +0000

To summarize, V8 supercar “racing” should be renamed to V8 single formula TV circus show on wheels.

It’s clear to me thay are trying hard to keep people interested, even though the cars are so much the same now it can no longer be called Holden vs Ford racing. It’s the V8 supercar formula parade, complete with insanely stupid rules. Not to mention virtually everyone allowed the others to pass easily, and my aforementiond “no-tagging” from Lowndes, makes it a Gentleman’s Sunday Drive Exhibition.

The only good thing is gone – that damn E85 doesn’t throw flames, just a puff of white occasionally.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:43:19 +0000

Wheelnut,
why does the best performer deserve to be thrown to the back.
whether its a reverse grid or the new qual format, why does the good race performance result in a penalty???

sure Whincup, Tander and Co might be best drivers in the best cars, but you need to be a lot faster than 3 tenths to rocket through the field no matter how good you are.

At the end of the day reverse grids have been tried and subsequently scrapped for obvious reasons. The past doesnt lie, and the format didnt work.
I can see this Qual format going to the bin aswell.

The biggest question is will it last a full season of trial???
I sort of doubt it…….

Did Cam really say it will only get addressed when whincup blows an engine in Qual????
Surely he isnt that silly to believe that.

the days of favourtism have been stamped out.
There was once a time when they never brought in the front runner for a penalty, now i feel they are delt a little more fairly

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:17:55 +0000

Reckless – that may be so…. but what’s the difference between Tander Whincup and co having to try and pass the slower drivers [who are usually at the rear of the grid] at the start of the race then having to pass them in the middle or at the end of the race?

I mean Tander Whincup and co are probably going to have to try an pass them at some stage of the race aren’t they?

And by having the slower drivers infront of the more experienced ones at the start it shows who has the better strategy – who drives with his head not just his hands and feet – inorder to finish first; first you have to finish

By: thomasrdotorg

thomasrdotorg — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:40:03 +0000

Cam did say later that the rule will probably only get addressed “when Whincup blows an engine during qualifying”

He’s probably right.

Tom

By: Richo

Richo — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:56:54 +0000

Reckless – I don’t know that a slight nudge to pass is illegal or not.. but what IS unfair is when someone gets turned around or put into the wall. It doesn’t take much for a “slight nudge” to turn into a major incident when these guys are on the absolute threshold under brakes… its the potential for harm which i think is V8supercar is thinking about

By: Richo

Richo — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:54:08 +0000

at first i thought the new quali system might be ok, but this weekend it was a complete joke and it needs to be changed, NOW!

By: Reckless1

Reckless1 — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:00:46 +0000

“I’d like to know why the high profile drivers hate reverse grids so much”

Easy. The hopeless slower drivers at the rear make it easy for the faster qualifiers to race their own pace. When the grid is reversed, the bunch-up happens at the front ant there are always crashes and blocked tracks, usually the slow one taking out one or more of the faster ones. When it’s only the first 10, it’s not as bad, but it’s pointless.

The current system is flawed and ridiculous, but even more obvious is the new “rules”, different to last year, which evidently outlaw contact. Last year Lowndes frequently tagged the back of a car so he could slide past, but this year he didn’t nudge Tander at all. For ex go-karters, the slight nudge at the rear and slip past is second nature.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:53:04 +0000

i know full reverse grids have been tried, but typiclly a reverse grid only involves the top 10.

the thing with being back in the pack is you get caught up in other peoples trouble.
also the reason that the other drivers are actually pretty talented and close matched is the reason why its hard for them to continually make their way through.

you need to be more than a few tenths quicker to easily pass someone

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:48:34 +0000

In the past they have done full grid reversals though Andrew M –
I’d like to know why the high profile drivers hate reverse grids so much
Because if they are the best drivers in Austalia they should be able to pass the slower less experienced drivers who are usually at the back of the grid “cleanly” and easily shouldn’t they? well most of them should be able to!

I mean the other drivers aren’t that bad when you consider that sometimes the full grid of 30 cars is covered by less than 5 seconds [after qualifying]

As you say Andrew the focus is meant to be on Racing which involves passing not just maintaining position