Comments on: Auto industry denounces the Deputy Prime Minister’s Skills Council decision

By: john a

john a — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:48:19 +0000

hey realist you have made my day hahaha thanks mate

By: The Realist

The Realist — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:25:08 +0000

john a Says:
March 19th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
“so all you clowns think that its ok for management to do as they please with staff and stuff workers lives up but the worker cant have protection get real,there is not a boss in the world who gives a stuff about the worker the minute it gets a bit tough they get rid of staff instead of trying to do things better or trying to look after good staff untill things improve,i know for a fact what work choices has done in the area i work in it has done nothing to improve the work place or create more jobs ,less jobs less pay more work,oh and im not a red rag leftie but i for one will not be sorry to see work choices go,just my opinion.”

You need to see a therapist – while you’re there learn some grammer too.

You’re not a relative of that half-wit Union Chief Sharon Burrows are you?

By: Shak

Shak — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:21:05 +0000

SteveH, the hospital funding is a shared power between the states and the feds. The feds hand out funding and the states decide where to spend it. ie ambos hospitals, clinics.

By: Frontman

Frontman — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:21:30 +0000

Back on thread, shows just how much lack of understanding there is within the Beaurocrates about all types of industry. Bundle with the “touted” automotive industry rescue package that this administration put forward, and the hoops the manufacturers have to jump through just to get a waffer thin slice of the 6.2 billion dollars over the next 13 years and you get a clear picture of how little these people think of the industry. It will be really interesting if the allow Chinalco to purchase into Rio Tinto. If that happens, get your name down quickly at centre link.

By: john a

john a — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:48:55 +0000

roflamatic,how many times have you heard some ceo going on about how our people are our most important asset,times get tough or they want to restructure or just plain greed and lo and behold the most valuable asset is out on the street,in laymans terms mate thats why a worker needs a bit of protection,and lets face it if you stuff up big time at work after 3 warnings you are out anyway,my last word on the subject is that the previous government did sfa for australians in the workplace,thanks for your response though but lets stick to cars its a lot frendlier hehe

By: RoFlmaTiC

RoFlmaTiC — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:57:59 +0000

John A, I’ll try to put this in laymans terms.

Under the Howard IR policy, companies with less than 100 employees were exempt from some of the protections. Now under the Rudd policy the number has been reduced to either 20 or 15.

All you need to think about, is WHY these exemptions exist for small businesses! That there is the answer. Both governments are aware and acknowledge that all these protections for employees place a heavy burden on businesses, which is why there are exemptions. If there wasn’t, we wouldn’t need the exemptions! Simple!

Having people in employment, rather than them unemployed is crucial. Work choices remaining would have enabled more people to stay in work during this downturn, even though they are on slightly worse conditions. But hey at least they HAVE jobs where as they probably don’t now.

I note a recent ninemsn poll where people overwhelmingly voted that they would take a pay cut in order to keep their jobs.

If you are a hard worker, the majority of the time you don’t have to worry about job security anyway.

By: john a

john a — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:18:48 +0000

so all you clowns think that its ok for management to do as they please with staff and stuff workers lives up but the worker cant have protection get real,there is not a boss in the world who gives a stuff about the worker the minute it gets a bit tough they get rid of staff instead of trying to do things better or trying to look after good staff untill things improve,i know for a fact what work choices has done in the area i work in it has done nothing to improve the work place or create more jobs ,less jobs less pay more work,oh and im not a red rag leftie but i for one will not be sorry to see work choices go,just my opinion.

By: RoFlmaTiC

RoFlmaTiC — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:38:02 +0000

We would have had noticeably less jobs lost in Australia if work choices remained intact.

Employers who may have taken the gamble of hiring employees in this volatile time are not hiring because of the strict “protections” to employee conditions. It’s ironic that these protections have inevitably cost many people their jobs.

By: luvalambi

luvalambi — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:29:09 +0000

Sooooo Ryan , tell me how the recession has affected you? tell me , are you doing anything different ? i dont think so its a Labour scare tactic , in other words Labour spends money then makes cuts to make up the difference! Chasing tails kiddies , chasing tails……

By: Riker

Riker — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:28:30 +0000

Funny how we have what would seem like a well liked federal Labour gov’t yet the flumoxed & concerned voices start springing up out of the ground……

History never lies & always repeats. Labour gov’ts have a habit of screwing economies into the ground, regardless of whichever fiscal cycle we are in. Simple economic facts. They need to feed the greedy & deep pockets of the unions.

Sadly we have a newish federal gov’t in power with muppets like Krudd & the monotoned Gillard at the helm who just refuse to listen….People say Howard & Costello were arrogant….Krudd & his economic henchmen are the personification of arrogance & the treasurer, well he just beggers belief.

Rant over………………

By: HAL

HAL — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:43:29 +0000

sorry, didn’t answer the rest of your question. The Tassie hospital was a complete fiasco prior to the last election. There was a huge political opportunity for John Howard to be the white knight saviour when the Tas State govt was going to close that hospital. But everybody saw it for what it was – political opportunism at it’s best, and the majority howled him down for not offering to help much earlier, you know, “why now just before an election?” was the main question being asked.

By: HAL

HAL — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:40:24 +0000

No, you are correct Steve. Public hospitals are the State’s domain. But the only time any new hospitals have ever been built in the past has been when Federal Government has stepped in to fund the majority of the work (the States NEVER spend their money well). So although officially a State responsibility, no real investment in new hospitals or upgrades to existing services happens until the Fed govt steps in. And Labor generally does the better job of the 2 parties – still not great mind you, but better.

By: SteveH

SteveH — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:35:56 +0000

HAL, I am probably completely wrong here, but I thought hospitals were a State domain? Wasn’t there the hospital in Tassie that the State Government was going to close, then when the Federal Liberal government tried to step in, there was a furore over the Federal Government getting involved in State politics. I can’t stand KRUDD myself, just waffles and never actually says anything. Mind you, he is hardly ever in the country anyway.

By: HAL

HAL — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:27:16 +0000

^ I should also add that I’m a swinging voter, not a Labor fan. Regardless of their political persuasion they have to earn my vote with the best policies.

By: HAL

HAL — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:25:59 +0000

SteveH, I guess you could also say that whenever Labor gets re-elected infrastructure investment has been so neglected by the previous Coalition government that they have to spend whatever surplus is there to get civil, public health and other essential services back up to date again?

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:24:26 +0000

Yeah I know Steve, probably couldn’t have been avoided regardless which party was in. I just like rubbing it in to any Labor supporters. Just as I like rubbing it in to Fremantle Dockers supporters about never winning the grand final haha.

By: SteveH

SteveH — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:20:30 +0000

I don’t think a recession could have been avoided, regardless of who is in power. As labour are showing though, they always manage to go into debt straight away and squander any money that previous Liberal governments have saved. They also have to look after their Union interests, so that will always cost business.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:46:10 +0000

Shoulda woulda coulda Ryan… LOL. Fact remains that over the years, Labor steps in, so does recession :)

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:42:02 +0000

Obviously those commenting on here have no idea that there’s a GLOBAL recession currently happening? even if your liberal saviours were in power there would be a recessions, ever thought that this may be because 7/10 of our top 10 trading partners are in recession also? Hmm, idiots….

By: Hummerbug

Hummerbug — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:26:49 +0000

Muppets haaaaaaaaaaaaaa LOL Thats classic… Yeah and there are strings attached haaaa