Comments on: 2009 MINI Cabrio First Steer Review

By: TDo

TDo — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:30:51 +0000

Now that’s a car I consider to be a fun and entertaining way to get around in.
The looks aren’t girly, they are ‘metro’ lol

By: D

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:23:21 +0000

Jack Fast,

The Peugeot Citroen Petrol engines you\’re referring to are identical to the Mini engines, and yes, they use twin scroll turbo chargers. I don\’t know why some media writers say the Peugeot ones suffer turbo lag – they don\’t in my experience. This article introduces the petrol engines: http://tinyurl.com/ymt6vb

The Peugeot Citroen 1.6 diesel named DV6 TED4 (as used in the Cooper D which I was referring to earlier) is only a single variable geometry unit as per http://tinyurl.com/DV6TED4

By: Nightshifter

Nightshifter — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:36:16 +0000

I thought a turbo diesel would make more than 260Nm when the same displacement petrol can make that much torque

By: Jack fast

Jack fast — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:02:12 +0000

D, I wasn’t aware that the Peugeot or Citroen used a twin scroll turbocharger which would make all the difference by all but eliminating turbo lag which I’ve heard the Peugeot’s suffer a little from.

By: D

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:46:13 +0000

“the 1.6-litre turbo diesel powerplant produces a staggering 260Nm during “Overboost”, and will be the fastest accelerating diesel in its capacity class in the country.”

This engine is not exactly new. It’s the same engine which has powered the Peugeot 207 HDi, 307 1.6 HDi, 308 1.6 HDi, and Citroen C4 1.6 HDi in Australia for a couple of years. It performs very well in the 207 and C4 I have driven (both at least 200kg heavier) so I am sure it will be a great engine to drive behind in a Mini.

By: Simon

Simon — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:41:55 +0000

Jack Fast you are looking for an argument and you will look silly.
Read it again, in context.
“Moreover, CO2 emissions will fall to just 104 g/km, while the 1.6-litre turbo diesel powerplant produces a staggering 260Nm during “Overboost”, and will be the fastest accelerating diesel in its capacity class in the country.”

Everyone can see for themselves the adjective “staggering” was used in direct reference to “260Nm during “Overboost””.
My response is accurate.

By: Jack fast

Jack fast — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:30:56 +0000

Simon,

you clearly have not read the article properly mate, 260Nm is indeed “staggering” when you factor in the performance, fuel economy and C02 emissions.

By: Simon

Simon — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:02:17 +0000

“Are you suggesting that the i30 target market is the same as the MINI Cooper S Cabrio?”

Who said anything about “target market”? Please don’t distort my comments.
It was your observation that 260NM from a 1.6TD is “staggering”. My point is it really isn’t.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:24:08 +0000

Simon not sure what you are getting at with your comment, the fact is that 260Nm is more than 255Nm and I wasn’t aware that the i30 was available in a Cabrio body.

Are you suggesting that the i30 target market is the same as the MINI Cooper S Cabrio?

By: Anthony

Anthony — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:19:17 +0000

Reckless, if you wanted a compliant ride in a MINI Cabrio, you wouldn’t opt for the Copper “S” variant.

That said, “the ride is firm but never harsh” and on a car with a wheelbase as short as the MINI, I couldn’t imagine it any other way.
Cheers