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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Toyota Corolla Seca Review &amp; Road Test</title>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-161623</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2 litre is coming Dec 09 / Jan 10 and it will only be in the Uiltma sedan.  However I understand that the 2.4 will be available in the ZR hatch - cannot wait.  The 1.8 will continue in the base and Conquest models.  The 4 speed auto will conitiue in 1.8, with 5 speed auto standard in 2.0 and optional in 2.4.  Bring it on pse ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2 litre is coming Dec 09 / Jan 10 and it will only be in the Uiltma sedan.  However I understand that the 2.4 will be available in the ZR hatch &#8211; cannot wait.  The 1.8 will continue in the base and Conquest models.  The 4 speed auto will conitiue in 1.8, with 5 speed auto standard in 2.0 and optional in 2.4.  Bring it on pse ..</p>
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		<title>By: Gilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a few years when that famous &#039;Euro&#039; built reliability kicks in you will be wishing you had gone with the Mazda!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a few years when that famous &#8216;Euro&#8217; built reliability kicks in you will be wishing you had gone with the Mazda!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-146341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Face lift Corolla will be available around mid / end Sep 09 and will be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face lift Corolla will be available around mid / end Sep 09 and will be better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-143724</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will have to wait until the end of this year (2009) for the 2 litre Corolla to be released - initally in the upspec models, the 2 litre will more than likely be pushed accross the range, I WOULD HOPE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will have to wait until the end of this year (2009) for the 2 litre Corolla to be released &#8211; initally in the upspec models, the 2 litre will more than likely be pushed accross the range, I WOULD HOPE.</p>
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		<title>By: vid_ghost</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-128127</link>
		<dc:creator>vid_ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 05:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new mazda 3 is a great looking car in black, but the dealers want $28k for the neo auto no hangle can be done yet.. they said wait 90 days befor price drops some. plus blacktown lander toyota is selling this car in auto with free sat nav and other extras for $22990 drive away! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new mazda 3 is a great looking car in black, but the dealers want $28k for the neo auto no hangle can be done yet.. they said wait 90 days befor price drops some. plus blacktown lander toyota is selling this car in auto with free sat nav and other extras for $22990 drive away! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Boney Maroney</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-126164</link>
		<dc:creator>Boney Maroney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over the rolla conquest that is

also on golf the 1.4L turbo engine is pulling just over 2000 revs at 100kph in 6th and can pull away in 6th, the rolla is turning 3000rpm at 100kph, and s gutless in 6th</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over the rolla conquest that is</p>
<p>also on golf the 1.4L turbo engine is pulling just over 2000 revs at 100kph in 6th and can pull away in 6th, the rolla is turning 3000rpm at 100kph, and s gutless in 6th</p>
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		<title>By: Boney Maroney</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-126163</link>
		<dc:creator>Boney Maroney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to mention tha the driveaway price for the golf is $2k premium over the rolla, but i reackon it is well worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention tha the driveaway price for the golf is $2k premium over the rolla, but i reackon it is well worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: Boney Maroney</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-126162</link>
		<dc:creator>Boney Maroney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, today my wife and I drove a Lancer VR, KIA Cerrato, i30, and a Golf 90TSI........must say, the rolla takes a back seat to the performance of the Golf, even though the Golf has only 90kw, t weighs less then the Rolla, and has much more torque starting way down the revs, it surprised me really. Wouldn&#039;t consider a SA built Golf due to the many build issues I have heard of through this site, but now they are imported directly fromgermany, well, i just might head in that direction. Golf is worth a look for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, today my wife and I drove a Lancer VR, KIA Cerrato, i30, and a Golf 90TSI&#8230;&#8230;..must say, the rolla takes a back seat to the performance of the Golf, even though the Golf has only 90kw, t weighs less then the Rolla, and has much more torque starting way down the revs, it surprised me really. Wouldn&#8217;t consider a SA built Golf due to the many build issues I have heard of through this site, but now they are imported directly fromgermany, well, i just might head in that direction. Golf is worth a look for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Boney Maroney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boney Maroney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before typing I need to admit that I drive a Toyota Kluger CVX, and have done so for 5 years. Drove it around Oz towing a caravan for twelve months - did 47,000klms on that trip, ditched the caravan in places and drove into remote spots with a tent.....and it got us everywhere we wanted to go, and it got thrashed - and in 5 years, not one hassle, not one complaint, and still no squeaks or rattles. Man these cars are reliable.

I also drive a V6 camry as a work car (bland, but gets the job done, and not one jiggle or hitch in the last two years)

had a 2001 Subbie GT Forester, 1999 Subbie RX Impressa (which were both okay, but not robust, and were full of squeaks and rattles and little things constantly went wrong). Also had a Mitsubishi Colt and Holden Astra wagon in the mid nineties, with many, many failings.

So when it came time to pick my next work car, I wanted something reliable, cheap to service (with the rolla, u cant argue with $130 services every 10,000k for 3 years/ $60,000ks) and something sub $28k driveaway. 

Anyway, test drove a Rolla Conquest today........yes the engine lacks punch, and the six speed is probably wasted on an engine this small, but it is sturdy, sits nice and high for a car of it&#039;s size, but the car is rigid, so cornering is great despite the higher seating position.

I had to test an i30 as well....dealer didnt have a diesel, only a petrol. Must admit, it did have more punch in the engine, but she did rollmore on corners and was certainly less refined then the rolla. Sitting in the Toyota, it had a feel of quality, and a modern look on the inside, the hyundai looked dated and cheap. So I am leaning toward the rolla at the moment, more test drives tomorrow. Dealer is giving me the rolla to drive for the whole weeknd so I can back to back test everything against it.......I thought that was niceof him.

Any way, for my purpose of driving to see clients, A to B, for business purposes, doing round 20,000 ks a year, the corolla so far suits to a T. It is easy to see why people who chase reliability, stick to toyota, even if the drive can be plain vanilla......it gets the job done again and again and again..............Cheer, Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before typing I need to admit that I drive a Toyota Kluger CVX, and have done so for 5 years. Drove it around Oz towing a caravan for twelve months &#8211; did 47,000klms on that trip, ditched the caravan in places and drove into remote spots with a tent&#8230;..and it got us everywhere we wanted to go, and it got thrashed &#8211; and in 5 years, not one hassle, not one complaint, and still no squeaks or rattles. Man these cars are reliable.</p>
<p>I also drive a V6 camry as a work car (bland, but gets the job done, and not one jiggle or hitch in the last two years)</p>
<p>had a 2001 Subbie GT Forester, 1999 Subbie RX Impressa (which were both okay, but not robust, and were full of squeaks and rattles and little things constantly went wrong). Also had a Mitsubishi Colt and Holden Astra wagon in the mid nineties, with many, many failings.</p>
<p>So when it came time to pick my next work car, I wanted something reliable, cheap to service (with the rolla, u cant argue with $130 services every 10,000k for 3 years/ $60,000ks) and something sub $28k driveaway. </p>
<p>Anyway, test drove a Rolla Conquest today&#8230;&#8230;..yes the engine lacks punch, and the six speed is probably wasted on an engine this small, but it is sturdy, sits nice and high for a car of it&#8217;s size, but the car is rigid, so cornering is great despite the higher seating position.</p>
<p>I had to test an i30 as well&#8230;.dealer didnt have a diesel, only a petrol. Must admit, it did have more punch in the engine, but she did rollmore on corners and was certainly less refined then the rolla. Sitting in the Toyota, it had a feel of quality, and a modern look on the inside, the hyundai looked dated and cheap. So I am leaning toward the rolla at the moment, more test drives tomorrow. Dealer is giving me the rolla to drive for the whole weeknd so I can back to back test everything against it&#8230;&#8230;.I thought that was niceof him.</p>
<p>Any way, for my purpose of driving to see clients, A to B, for business purposes, doing round 20,000 ks a year, the corolla so far suits to a T. It is easy to see why people who chase reliability, stick to toyota, even if the drive can be plain vanilla&#8230;&#8230;it gets the job done again and again and again&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Cheer, Adam</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123533</link>
		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota will charge what Aussie&#039;s are willing to pay, just like any other company. Simple economics.

Similar to Qantas - RTW in Business Class is $12K. Just use an overseas ticketing agent from American Airlines or Cathay Pacific, still on One World airlines so you get full status credits, and you can get the RTW Business Class ticket for $7K, with better service in the premium cabins than Qantas can provide.

But Aussies will still stump up for Qantas fares, because they either don&#039;t know any better or have some sense of patriotism which is funny, when Qantas couldn&#039;t care less about Aussie travellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota will charge what Aussie&#8217;s are willing to pay, just like any other company. Simple economics.</p>
<p>Similar to Qantas &#8211; RTW in Business Class is $12K. Just use an overseas ticketing agent from American Airlines or Cathay Pacific, still on One World airlines so you get full status credits, and you can get the RTW Business Class ticket for $7K, with better service in the premium cabins than Qantas can provide.</p>
<p>But Aussies will still stump up for Qantas fares, because they either don&#8217;t know any better or have some sense of patriotism which is funny, when Qantas couldn&#8217;t care less about Aussie travellers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123298</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I didnt mean that the plastics looked hard and ugly either.
both examples are what people immediatly assume when you express concerns for interior quality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I didnt mean that the plastics looked hard and ugly either.<br />
both examples are what people immediatly assume when you express concerns for interior quality</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123295</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falcodore,
yes it is ha ha ha, but the point i was making is just because i expressed concern over quality issues, i didnt want people to assume i meant fit and finish quality issues as i found them to be acceptable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falcodore,<br />
yes it is ha ha ha, but the point i was making is just because i expressed concern over quality issues, i didnt want people to assume i meant fit and finish quality issues as i found them to be acceptable</p>
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		<title>By: maximark</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123284</link>
		<dc:creator>maximark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I could think to critise the Corolla is that it doesn&#039;t have ESP &amp; TCS and 7 airbags as standard for all models.Toyota just being greedy and don&#039;t put people &#039;s safety as their priority. It&#039;s 2009 and what are they thinking by have these safety features as an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I could think to critise the Corolla is that it doesn&#8217;t have ESP &amp; TCS and 7 airbags as standard for all models.Toyota just being greedy and don&#8217;t put people &#8217;s safety as their priority. It&#8217;s 2009 and what are they thinking by have these safety features as an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Falcodore</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123266</link>
		<dc:creator>Falcodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that not a quality issue?:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that not a quality issue?:)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123264</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falcadore,
just to clarify, its not that the interior really feels &quot;cheap&quot; as such, its just that after i saw one in the used paddock with bugger all k&#039;s on it i was amazed at how worn inside it looked.

the plastics dont look crap, they just seem to scuff/wear a lot easier than the mazda.

I still reckon both interior look good, but thats until you consider the wear factor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falcadore,<br />
just to clarify, its not that the interior really feels &#8220;cheap&#8221; as such, its just that after i saw one in the used paddock with bugger all k&#8217;s on it i was amazed at how worn inside it looked.</p>
<p>the plastics dont look crap, they just seem to scuff/wear a lot easier than the mazda.</p>
<p>I still reckon both interior look good, but thats until you consider the wear factor</p>
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		<title>By: Falcodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Falcodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M, have to agree with your comments about the 3 and the Lancer. I dont think the Lancer has the quality interior of the 3.

Plus the Corolla still has that gutless 1.8 engine which you have to rev its guts out to get maximum power and torque out of it which negates any feul economy advantages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M, have to agree with your comments about the 3 and the Lancer. I dont think the Lancer has the quality interior of the 3.</p>
<p>Plus the Corolla still has that gutless 1.8 engine which you have to rev its guts out to get maximum power and torque out of it which negates any feul economy advantages.</p>
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		<title>By: ChineseDriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChineseDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be mature you guys, not everyone in this world consider them self are so PRO and keeps talk about performance etc.

People buying Corollas aren&#039;t idiots, they just simply CBF to waste their time and don&#039;t care if someone else thinks they are &#039;noob&#039;. 

Is Hyundai a better car than Toyota? I don&#039;t even care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be mature you guys, not everyone in this world consider them self are so PRO and keeps talk about performance etc.</p>
<p>People buying Corollas aren&#8217;t idiots, they just simply CBF to waste their time and don&#8217;t care if someone else thinks they are &#8216;noob&#8217;. </p>
<p>Is Hyundai a better car than Toyota? I don&#8217;t even care.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/25881/2009-toyota-corolla-seca-review-road-test/comment-page-3/#comment-123247</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just interested Foxy, have you looked at any others or are you just following the default road which is the Corolla??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just interested Foxy, have you looked at any others or are you just following the default road which is the Corolla??</p>
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		<title>By: Foxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Roflmatic....yep it&#039;s driveaway.
For me corolla HATCH is my ideal car...i think the depreciation is ok...not that bad. I like the safty pack which comes with 7 airbags and VSC. Eventhough the boot&#039;s not that big. i would prefer a bigger ones but the budget is under limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Roflmatic&#8230;.yep it&#8217;s driveaway.<br />
For me corolla HATCH is my ideal car&#8230;i think the depreciation is ok&#8230;not that bad. I like the safty pack which comes with 7 airbags and VSC. Eventhough the boot&#8217;s not that big. i would prefer a bigger ones but the budget is under limit.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carsguide said: &quot;In fact, it (Sonata) is one of the quietest mid-sized sedans  on the market.

Out on the highway, the road, wind and engine noise are as low as in cars 10 times more expensive&quot;  

Actually, Sonata is as quite as any Lexus cars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carsguide said: &#8220;In fact, it (Sonata) is one of the quietest mid-sized sedans  on the market.</p>
<p>Out on the highway, the road, wind and engine noise are as low as in cars 10 times more expensive&#8221;  </p>
<p>Actually, Sonata is as quite as any Lexus cars&#8230;</p>
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