• Pleasant & smooth drive, crisp instrumentation, roomy cabin
  • A touch pricey, asthmatic performance, conservatively styled

OUR RATING
6 / 10



2009 Toyota Corolla Review & Road Test
2009 Toyota Corolla Review & Road Test
by Matt Brogan

Corolling in ultimate style

Model Tested:

  • 2009 Toyota ZRE152R Corolla Ultima 1.8-litre, automatic, sedan – $31,990 (RRP)

Options:

  • Metallic Paint $350 (Fitted – Shimmer)

CarAdvice Rating:

A lot of people refer to the humble yet popular Corolla as “white goods” motoring which, if you are to take the glass half-full attitude, translates to a reliable, affordable and necessary piece of household equipment – not such a bad thing.

That being the case then in our push-button, touch-screen world it could well be said that the Corolla Ultima is indeed white goods motoring in the truest sense of the meaning – albeit with a stainless steel finish.

2009 Toyota Corolla Review & Road Test
2009 Toyota Corolla Review & Road Test
2009 Toyota Corolla Review & Road Test
2009 Toyota Corolla Review & Road Test

Though it might be viewed as conservative stylistically, the Corolla Ultima does set itself rightly at the top of the model range with a few subtle styling cues lending the upper spec sedan a little more class than its poorer siblings.


Handsome 16-inch alloy wheels with front and rear mudflaps, xenon-bulbed auto headlamps with washers and height adjustment, front fog lamps and chrome bright work under the side glass all do their bit in adding to the car’s overall appeal, without that is challenging convention or making any elitist statements.

Inside the roomy and well laid-out cabin you’ll find all the mod-cons you would expect of a top shelf small sedan including leather upholstery, leather wrapped tilt/slide steering wheel with audio and cruise controls, single-zone climate control, auto-dimming rear view mirror, rain sensing wipers, cruise control, smart card entry with push button starter, trip computer, power windows and mirrors and a six CD tuner with Bluetooth mobile phone connectivity and auxiliary input.

The instrumentation, known as an ‘Optitron Combimetre’ in Toyota speak, is a stand-out item for me as it is very attractive, crisp, and informative while at the same time being simple to navigate. All ancillary controls too fall readily to hand providing no challenge to those who might be challenged by the whizz-bang equipment levels found in some similarly spec’ed rivals.

While the gadgetary offerings from the Corolla Ultima are indeed rewarding, the performance on hand is anything but, and while it’s certainly not the worst performing car I’ve driven in this category, the 1.8-litre VVTi four-cylinder it is a little asthmatic, especially with four adults on board.

Developing 100kW @ 6000rpm (and 175Nm @ 4400rpm) the written down figure isn’t really the issue, it’s the car’s ability to utilise the power effectively which is hampered primarily by a dated and slow to react four-speed automatic.

Although the transmission is very smooth of shift it is reluctant to kick-down in a timely manner meaning overtaking opportunities need to be a long planned affair. But should you intend a more leisurely, city-based role for your own Corolla Ultima this may not prove such an issue.

The ride is above average, comfortably settled yet not so firm as to be bothersome, and despite the torsion beam rear end (strut front), the Corolla Ultima manages fairly confident handling that is now assisted by ESP (or VSC in Toyota terms).

Add to this dual front, side, curtain and a driver’s knee airbag, as well as ABS with EBA and EBD, then it is a given the Corolla Ultima will achieve maximum points when next ANCAP tested (Corolla has not yet been tested with ESP – previous model scored 34.96 out of a possible 37 points to achieve five-stars).

Light but true steering feel somehow offers the driver an unremarkable level of feedback from the front wheels once at highway speeds while contrarily braking is sure and progressive with fade evident only after repeated excessive application.

An ample boot allows 450-litres of cargo to be carried with the seats up though this can be nearly doubled thanks to a 60:40 split fold back seat. The boot also houses a full-size (steel) spare wheel under the floor.

So while it may not get your heart racing in terms of looks or performance the Corolla Ultima is a pleasant and smooth drive with enough in the way of comfort and kit to keep you abreast of modern small-sedan motoring.

Were it a little cheaper the Corolla Ultima would have scored higher in our ratings but with Korea’s top-shelf rivals offering the same level of spec’ for much less coin it’s a worthy 3.5 wheels.

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Specifications:

  • Engine: 1798cc DOHC four-cylinder (16 valve)
  • Power: 100kW @ 6000rpm
  • Torque: 175Nm @ 4400rpm
  • Induction: Multi-Point
  • Transmission: Four-speed automatic
  • Driven Wheels: Front
  • Brakes: Discs with ABS, EBA & EBD
  • Top Speed: 192km/h
  • 0-100km/h: 11.1 seconds
  • CO2 Emissions: 173 grams per kilometre
  • Fuel Consumption: 7.4 litres per 100km (ADR)
  • Fuel Consumption: 8.5 litres per 100km (As Tested)
  • Fuel Tank Capacity: 55 litres
  • Fuel Type: 91RON Petrol
  • ANCAP Rating: New model TBC (previously five-stars)
  • Airbags: Front, Side, Curtain & Driver’s Knee
  • Safety: ESP with Traction Control
  • Spare Wheel: 16-inch steel (Full Size)
  • Suspension: Strut (F) / Torsion Beam (R)
  • Cargo Capacity: 450 litres (Seats Up)
  • Tow Capacity: 1300kg (Braked)
  • Turning Circle: 10.4 metres
  • Warranty: Three Year / 100,000 kilometre
  • Weight: 1285kg (Tare)
  • Wheels: Alloy 16 x 6.5-inch


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  • HAL

    really not my cup of tea – very conservative. But hey, it suits some people (obviously a lot of people judging by the sales figures) and good luck to them.

    Now, time to cook the popcorn, sit down, and get ready for the inevitable slanging match between the usual suspects as the pros and cons of Toyota. :-)

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Matt

    HAL – rest assured our moderators are ready.

  • Dan

    Hmmm, sounds like a winner! Another successful Corrolla that will sell by the truck loads!

  • Bret

    I thought it was a Korean car looking at the photo before reading the headline.

  • Myke

    uuuurghh, the back of the Corolla sedan looks as though it was reversed into a brick wall. Why are the alloys so small? you pay $30k+ and you don’t even get decently sized wheels. The 2.4 engine would have more sense at this price aswell.

  • Buck

    Please tell me this isn’t a so called all new model, it looks almost identical to my eighty year old parents nine year old Toymota, which handles, drives, performs and steers like the most boring appliance that it is.

    100KW and 175nm of torque, oh please what progress have they made in the last few years.

    Toymota is losing money for reasons completly unrelated to the credit crisis. I mean, just look at the Photo’s.

    Hope that’s not too controversial for you Matt.

  • Frontman

    So have you woken up after that review Matt? Didn’t have any problems driving past the Bowls Clubs??
    On subject, whilst this car is “adequate”, I really wonder how it would go without the fleet market. Simple design things just make it seem so backwards these days, like the intruding boot hinges, just not necessary.

  • Dan

    “Now, time to cook the popcorn, sit down, and get ready for the inevitable slanging match between the usual suspects as the pros and cons of Toyota. :-)

    Indeed HAL! I read the title, and I knew that it is guaranteed those usual suspects will post their usual comments criticising anything toyota. It’s just a given. Wait and see…

  • Dan

    In regards to comments about ‘boring’ and so on. Aren’t all cars in this class boring? What do you expect from a FWD econobox? I wouldn’t buy a Corolla. And I wouldn’t buy any of Corolla’s competitors. They’re all boring. There’s no excitement in any of those cars.

  • Sam

    31k!!! Thats how much they charge for an Aurion, drive away, at the moment. I can think of dozens of cars I would buy for 31k before this tarted up,overpriced, aging Corolla.

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    the bosses new demo has just arrived.at $32k plus onroad,you better start devalueing it now…

  • Buck

    Couldn’t agree more Dan, I wouldn’t be seen dead in this Toyota though.

    At least the likes of the new Fiesta, Focus and Hyundai i30 have some semblence of style which to “some extent” eases the pain of driving these sort of econobox cars, this toyota has none.

    I’m absolutly sure my parents eight or nine year old model also makes 100kW and is a four speed automatic.

    Do Toymota really imagine that they can fit the same engine, gearbox and running gear change some sheet metal and rely on past glory, if you can call it that, and the customers won’t notice that the other manufacturers in the world have moved on to better and more modern and stylish things ?

  • Dan

    Buck. All econoboxes have no style. No image. A ‘little bit’ of style is still no style. You either do, or you don’t.

    “31k!!! Thats how much they charge for an Aurion”

    Base Aurion vs top of the range Corolla. You’ll find top of the range Astra or whatever is the same price as a base Commodore. Same goes for otehr brands. Nothing different here.

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    So Dan if you think it is another successful Corolla why did you hire a Korean car recently and not one of these ?

  • Andrew M

    Dan,
    Im gonna have to disagree.
    even if you have a little stlye, its still not none.

    better to have a little than none at all.

    Its like saying middle class workers earn nothing.

    The examples Buck listed do carry style, but they still arent my cup of tea because of the low size and power.

    The XR5 version might near convert me though. surely you gotta agree that oozes style???

  • Dan

    “So Dan if you think it is another successful Corolla why did you hire a Korean car recently and not one of these ?”

    That’s all Avis had in stock at the time. If work had an arrangement with other rental companies, I’d go for something better over there, if they had it available. Simple :)

    Andrew, the only style these cars have is that it projects an image of you being price concious, with not a slightest sense of enthusiasm towards driver enjoyment. YOu said you wouldn’t buy it for that reason. To call these cars in any way ‘classy’ would be kidding yourself. Having said that, lots of people buy them, and they don’t care. Obviosuly soem people value certain aspects more than the rest, and vice versa.

  • Tony

    Toyota have a lot of balls don’t they?

    Why not a Accord driveaway for $29,990?

    You’d be freakin’ nuts to even walk into a showroom to look at a this overpriced refridgerator.

  • Golfschwein

    Corker!!!

    Only joking.

    Quelle ordinaire, as the French would say.

  • Andrew M

    Dan,
    i made no mention of price, so i feel you just put words into my mouth, or misread what i said

  • Dan

    Tony, I don’t think top of the range Corolla will be sold in great numbers, as opposed to the lower spec ones. Base accord for 29,990? There’s no leather in that car is there, for example.

  • RoFlmaTiC

    It’s hard to choose this car over a mazda 3 sp23.

    Though i’d only take the current 3 model… I can’t stand the big smiley front of the new one.

    Also agree that it’s about time this engine / gearbox combo gets upgraded.

  • Dan

    Andrew, we are talking about econoboxes, not 40 or 60 or 80K+ cars. Price is a factor when buying these cars.

  • RoFlmaTiC

    Toyota should at least bust out the 2ZR-FAE which makes 110kw and features dual vvti.

  • Frontman

    Matt thanks for the review, it’s proved Corollas can be entertaining, even if it is only for the Friday arvo funnies :-)

  • K

    I would rather buy Kia Magentis…It has 2.4 litre VVTI engine, 5speed Auto, Full Leather Seat, 17 Inch Alloy, 6 airbags, ESP….Most importantly, I can buy this car at 25,000 A$ drive away!! The person who buys Corolla over Magentis must be insane !!

  • Dan

    K, magentis perhaps might be cheaper to buy, but you will get burnt on the resale factor. Corolla’s tend to have a good resale with lots of keen second hand buyers. Goota look at the whole picture mate :)

  • Andrew M

    Dan,
    fair enough on the price thing, but the point still reamins that the rolla is very near the bottom of the pack in its class.

    What myself and others are getting at is that there are many better choices than this out there for the same coin

  • Tony

    Dan, serious question.

    Why do you want leather in a Toyota or Honda? Are they full on luxury cars?

    I’ve driven full on performance cars with leather and even then, it wasn’t the best choice.

    A mix of cloth/alcantara/suede is better.

    Do you think there’s some kudos in driving a leather clad Toyota? It’s like drinking Chandon out of a paper cup…

  • K

    Dan..Resale value? Yes… If I sell it within 3 years..I will be issue,,,But if I keep it more than 5 years..it won’t be issue…

  • Tony

    you gotta be dense to think you’ll get a good resale on a $32k corolla in say 3-5 yrs time

    for arguments sake say if you buy a $20k std. corolla you’ll get 60% back after 3 yrs – that is fair enough… the market for cheap reliable automatic hatches is s solid

    but do you honestly think you’ll get 60% of $32k back just because your corolla is a bit nicer?

    i suspect that someone will pay $1,000? $2,000? more for a more upspec 2nd hand corolla but now where near the $10k difference that you paid for it originally.

    the same argument goes for the Lancer Aspire (Expire?) and any ‘luxury’ econocar

    if you want resale look at an Accord Euro… it beggars belief that a $32k car in 2004 is still asking for $20k+ in 2009 but hey… Honda owners are a breed apart

  • Tim

    K, Corolla and the Kia are different cars for different markets. The Kia is a medium sized car, although it is very competitive on price. But compare the interior and the Toyota wins.

    Wouldn’t trust with a Magentis just yet, they are quite old and would wait for Kia’s next mid size car which will hopefully be as good as Hyundai’s/Kia’s latest offerings.

    Either way, this thing is overpriced, boring and one of the worst in the class. Mazda 3 or a Golf – no questions asked…but this? Nahhh, would rather a base Accord (as Tony mentioned) – but my pick would definately be the new Mazda 3 SP25…satnav, ESP, Bluetooth, style, leather, great engine, fantastic transmissions etc….

  • Dan

    Andrew M, no doubt. I personally wouldn’t buy it either. But I wouldn’t say bottom of the class. They’re all boring and sad. And this one has got quit a list of equipment.

    Tony, not sure why leather in Corolla or a Honda. I’m guessing perhaps people like the feeling of leather, so why not? I personally prefer leather as well, most of my cars had leather. But I guess all depends on the application. Sports cars are better with cloth/alcantara, as you get better grip on your seat, when going hard around corners etc. This is not something this car is made to do though. Why do they put leather in mazda 3? Regardless on the car, leather always gives this upmarket presentation about a car. Interior looks better, feels better etc. And at that price, it’s better it comes with leather than just the usual chaep cloth! LOL And last time I checked, your favourite Koreans also sell leather in their ‘paper cups’ ;)

    K, who keeps their brand new cars for over 5 years? Usually people who do buy brand new cars, sell and get a new one after 2 years or so. People who buy used hold onto their cars longer. If you buy a brand new car, you don;t want it to depreciate all the way to zero, you want to recover most of it as soon as possible, and get another. Resale factor IS important the same way as the price factor :)

  • Adam

    Not a bad review.

    However I don’t agree with the negative sounding comments regarding the engine and gear box.

    As far as 4 speed units go, this is the best one I have tested. Perhaps it struggles with 4 adults on board, but I only tested it with myself in the vehicle. The kick down to 3rd when i gave it some stick was instant, and the car certainly surged forward in impressive style.

    You mention that it a smooth drive, and this is certainly true. Very quiet and polished 1.8 on board.

    0-100 in 11.1 seconds??? Conservative. Wheels did it in 10.3 from memory. (9.3 for manual)

    The pick of the Corolla’s is the conquest in my opinion. This ultima sedan is not much of a looker, and far too expensive.

  • Dan

    Tony. I never said ‘decent’ resale on Corolla, even though their popularity affects it favouribly. I said it will have better resale than some obscure hardly known Kia Magentis… And it’s all relative. If resale is 60%, you’ll recover similar fraction on the premium over the base model too. It’s how it works with most cars doesn’t it?

  • Neutral

    Not surprising that all the comments were negative because a Corolla buyer would never bother to hang around in car review sites or flip a car magazine. I think CarAdvice can save some time in future by not bothering to review any Toyota at all, unless it’s the new Supra, MR2, or the AE86 replacement.

  • Tony

    I think Toyota are going backwards.

    Several years ago I drove the Corolla Sportivo thing with 141kW… it felt like it was worth $29,990 even though it lacked an LSD and the whole package felt slightly slapped together… a bit torqueless but it spun up sweetly.

    Now in 2009 they deliver this bowl of porridge… and with that wonderful 4 spd automatic.

    Why I remember driving a VL Commodore in my youth with a 4 spd automatic… cue wavy wavy lines…

    It was 1986!

    It is now 2009!

    I have grown up. Unfortunately Toyota have not… in fact they have actually devolved.

  • Dan

    LOL! Tony the VL had a 3 speed, so did the XF. 4 speed was still used by the Commodore very recently (not sure if it still is now). But good try nevertheless :)

  • Tony

    Dan, check your sources. I had a VL, I know full well how many gears it had. The box was actually made by Nissan like the motor. In 1986 you’d be dreaming if Australian engineering could come up with the wonders of SOHC or 4 spd autos.

  • HAL

    Now Tony, you sure you weren’t counting reverse gear in that? ;-)

  • Tony

    Hal, does Toyota or any other manufacturer count reverse gear? Why would I?

  • HAL

    Come on Tony, it was a joke. You’ve got to admit it was pretty funny? It’s Friday mate, time to lighten up :-)

  • Dan

    Regardless if there were 4 gears back in 1986. Did you know Tony that cars had 4 wheels already back in 1966? :)

  • Tim

    Dan, that was failage brah.

  • Golfschwein

    4 speeds on a VL was good stuff at the time. I had one, too.

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    hahaha ,HAL………..

    Im watching from a distance on this one and guess what my key board and forehead are still in tact :)

    You cant have an opinion Tony unless it agrees with Dans mate !

  • SteveH

    I think this Corolla looks boring because of its target market, the more ‘mature’ person. ie. Elderly. I don’t know of many younger people who would be swayed by a leather interior. Younger people would more likely want something that looks a bit sporty.

    I would say that the driveline of the Corolla needs updating, however I am guessing that if you want a solid reliable car, you couldn’t go wrong with a Corolla.

  • Dan

    Bavaria – “my key board and forehead are still in tact”

    What a shame, keep trying :P j/k

    Bavaria – “Im watching from a distance”

    LOL! My second post in this thread is like the garlic to a vampire. Great success!

  • Andrew

    I think the Lancer Aspire is a more convincing package, and seemingly one more differentiated from it’s more basic stablemates, at least in black.

    While I don’t necessarily agree with the choice of woodgrain in the Aspire, the fact it features a 2.4L engine and new features like cornering HID headlights and MMCS on top of the VRX’s highly specified package, is a strong argument to spend a little more on the Mitsubishi.

    Then again, I liked the woodgrain choice in the VE Berlina at it’s release. So it may be my taste?

  • Andrew

    “In 1986 you’d be dreaming if Australian engineering could come up with the wonders of SOHC or 4 spd autos.” -Tony

    In 1985 Mitsubishi released the Magna which featured both SOHC and 4 speed electronic automatic transmission. Not sure about the transmission, but the engine was Australian made and even though the car was originally based on the Japanese Sigma/Galant, it was widened and re-engineered in Australia to accomodate the 2.6L engine/4spd ELC auto combo.

  • ZoomZoom

    “In regards to comments about ‘boring’ and so on. Aren’t all cars in this class boring?”
    Umm no they’re not all boring. Some cars in this class can actually put a smile on your face :).
    The corolla would be great if the engine and styling were upgraded because it seems to be well equiped.

  • Frontman

    Will everybody PLEEEAAASSSEEEE stop quoting resale values!!!!!!
    If you are good enough to be ale to say what car will have resale value in 3 years time, come and work for me!
    Corolla is now the Darling of the Govco fleet so that means they supply > demand ratio will be totally blown out in 3 years time and will have Falcodore style resale. That is the facts! Simple.
    Also with the way new cars have only had slight price rises but are usually coupled with more equipment the used car prices are only going to go one way.
    Sorry for the rant, but you do get tired of hearing the same rubbish being quoted qbout vehicles. For everyones info the only vehicle that has resale value out there on todays market place in Australia is the F250 4×4 super or crew cab 7.3l turbo diesel. Hell they are getting more now than they were new.
    Rant off!

  • Dan

    Frontman, it is not difficult to estimate future resale value. Just gotta look back at history to see how they performed, and how much X year old cars are selling for etc. You can even read those off the back fo the wheel magazine…

  • Ravith

    Tony – where is this thing Honda Accord Drive away for 29K? I would be seriously interested in it (althouth I can’t afford anything beyond 25K at present)

  • Simon

    Frontman can I borrow your crystal ball when you are finished? Just joking.
    I think this car will appeal to many retirees who regard toyota as reliable and value for money. Most of them don’t care if it’s labled as a whitegood. They know it will still be running in 20 years when they need to surrender their licences.

    Matt, out of curiosity, how much bigger is it than the model it replaces? Would it possibly suit the camry set?

    Cheers

  • Frontman

    Dan for some reason I actually figured you had a little more intelligence than that!!!
    As far as all of these experts putting prices on second hand cars and quoting resale values, try just ry to get them to actually pay for the thing!! Maybe try sueing them if you don’t get the value they reckon.
    If I (after over 20 years in the selling, buying, training & running side of dealerships) can’t tell you what a car will be worht in 3 years time how can anyone else?????

  • Dan

    Frontman, for example, if you have a brand new car, and then you have the same model car except 3 years old, and it sells for X amount of dollars on the second hand market. It’s fairly simple to work out the resale on the new one isn’t it? Which part of this simple concept do you have trouble understanding? I would have thought you would understant that, given (as you claim) you have ran a dealership.

  • coconut wireless

    the anti-spam word couldnt be more ironic…FASTER… how would the up spec corolla stack up against the lancer VRX model.. similar specs with the bonus of satnav at the moment… am sure the lancer’s performance will better… what are your thoughts on this guys….

  • crouchy

    WOW.. i really didnt know they could get THIS expensive ><

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    Conclusion is that your paying dollars that could buy the likes of ,Subarus ,Golfs,Mini,Skodas,Mazdas,Peugeot and Hondas all better cars than this luxed up Rolla !

    Sell truck loads……pfttttttt, I doubt it somehow,value for money it isnt.

  • Dan

    LOL! Regardless of what you think about it bavaria, it will sell well. Maybe not this exact model. But they always sell well. Corrolla’s are some of the most popular cars in the world, given how much are sold annually. You can say what you like. I wouldn’t buy it myself either. But there will be thousands who will. Just accept the reality. :)

  • NotTheStig

    Well, it is a boring looking car and just the same to drive too, so I wouldn\’t buy one.

    Now it has ESP, I wouldn\’t be that upset if a older person I knew bought one but I think you could do much better…

    I just had to click on the interior to get a better look at that 1989 style climate control setup though. Tell me, does anyone actually think that is a example of great design ? (oh wait, anyone who likes the new Lexus RX centre dash section probably will…)

  • crouchy

    oh and can someone tells me where the fwd 4 cyl camry fits into this equation???? isnt it a mid size sedan too??????

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    Quote “Maybe not this exact model.” FINALLY he admits it !

    That is what this thread is about Dan……..Just accept that ;)

  • Andrew M

    Dan,
    you could certainly get a 4 banger auto in the VL and XF.

    If you were feeling sporty you could even get a 5 sp in the manual guise oooooooohhhhhhh

  • RoFlmaTiC

    5L VL’s were only available with 3 spd auto, the RB30 engined ones were available with 4 spd auto if my googlings are correct :)

  • Dan

    Who cares which model. Top of the range models for any manufacturer are rarely the most that are sold. It would usually be the base or the mid range that is the most sold model of the range.

    I finally admitted what?? I said the very same thing in the very beginning (my 6th post to be exact). Go have a read bavaria.

    Crouchy, I’d say the Camry is a bit more spacious inside.

  • Dan

    The XF’s auto box was only three speed. No ifs, no buts. Was my first bomb at high school so I know, until it died 6 weeks later lol!

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    Yeah I noticed you contradicted yourself…….

    First Post

    “Dan Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Hmmm, sounds like a winner! Another successful Corrolla that will sell by the truck loads!

    Sixth Post ” Dan Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Tony, I don’t think top of the range Corolla will be sold in great numbers, “

  • realcars

    Matt u seem very generous in your summation of the Corolla.

    Usually u critise cars and yes small cars for only having four speeds.

    The Cerato got a wrap over the knuckles for only having a four speeder?

    Despite the specs on paper I agree that the performance is lack lustre.

    Ultimate style well as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    This model is also a bit more than a Tad expensive.LOL

  • Dan

    “Yeah I noticed you contradicted yourself…….”

    Not I haven’t. Terms ‘truck loads’ and ‘great numbers’ are all subject to interpretation aren’t they?

  • Dan

    It won’t sell in great numbers, but it will sell by the truck loads :)

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    Dan thats just pathetic…………stop while you can you are embarrassing yourself ! Your splitting hairs for the sake of saying you are wrong !

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    A bit of a disappointing review for the worlds number one selling car with 3.5 steering wheels as the over all rating. As times get tougher i suspect customers will start looking for more value. The Corolla is a safe buy still. Just a little un inspiring for me. Many others to choose from with much better reviews.

  • realcars

    Think I’ll take the Honda Euro. Thanks anyway.LOL

  • Dan

    From the review and people’s comments I can see the only downsides of this car are:
    1. that it’s a bit expensive, and
    2. that it’s ‘boring’

    Both which aren’t really faults as such. Number 1 is obviously an issue when looking at the cheaper brands which are trying to establish themselves. Also that you can get a base model car of a model in a higher category. But you do get the features in this car which may not be in the base model of a higher category car. And number 2, it’s really a subjective issue. We’re talking about a category which purpose is not to excite, but merely get you from a to b, slowly, in relative comfort. Some buyers (obviously the ones who buy it by the truck loads) won’t care. And they will see it as a safe option. Remember, not everyone is into cars.

  • Wheelnut

    Dan do you use those “subjective” terms when your someone be it your boss or even the auditor asks you a question in regards to the financial situation?

    How much stock have we got left; Dan? Great Numbers.
    How many people will we have to get rid of? Truckloads.

    If you are an accountant you would know that financial statements must be as accurate as possible as they are what people refer to inorder tomake certain decisions…
    Therefore do you care to actually quantify/specify what you believe are Truckloads and Great Numbers for us..

  • realcars

    32k Ha Ha Ha Ha.

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    Yeah Realcars I saw that whilst leafing thru the Wheels at what one can purchase for 32k . Can you imagine the look on others faces when you inform them you just paid 32k for essentially a bread and butter car from Toyota with some frills thrown on it ! Bewilderment I expect ?

  • Simon

    Dan don’t forget:
    Underpowered……..AND
    Only 4 speed auto.

    The new corolla will sell well if history teaches us anything. Is it a suitable car for anyone who posts on CA?
    Doubtful!

  • Wheelnut

    Toyotas problem is that they are now playing carch up with the Corolla.
    because back in the 70s/80s the dscision to by a Corolla was virtually a No brainer.
    But now there are now a number of cars available that look better; perform better handle better are just as reliable and better value for money not to mention have more features than the Corolla.. and yes Dan that includes the Koreans

    IMHO Toyota are scared that whereas before very few people would even bother looking at a Mazda or a Mitsubishi it could end up that in the future very few people would even bother looking a Corolla.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if they made it slightly sportier by bolting on a supercharger or something yet we know what happened the last time Toyota did that?

  • http://carAdvice The Salesman

    The old re sale rant hay? Frontman is 100% correct. And he will agree with me when i say nobody knows what a car is worth after a few years. But i can, it is worth what somebody will pay for it ; ). If you have a five year old Corolla and a five year old VW both with the exact same k’s and in the same condition and price, what would you buy?

  • Simon

    Thinking Korean……
    I wonder how the I30 and Cerato stack up?
    CA comparisons please!
    (We might see who spends the most at CA! hehehe)

  • Wheelnut

    Dan says: We’re talking about a category which purpose is not to excite, but merely get you from a to b.

    and where might “a” to “b” be exactly Dan? given that you have argued on other topics [and lost] that cars aren’t actually designed to get you from “a to b”.
    So how does the Corolla differ/vary from say a Falcon Sedan or a Holden Ute or a Lexus IS250?

    Sure the Corolla might not have as mush power as a Commodore the performance of an M3 but it can carry [4-5] people in relative comfort and safety along with their cargo just like most other larger cars.

  • JasonP

    I don’t have to resort to Google, VL 6cyls were 4 speed autos, the V8s were 3 speed autos.

    Isn’t the new Golf in this size class?

    I’ve driven a couple of Golf VI models recently, & they weren’t boring, nor had cheap interiors.
    Very quiet & refined actually.

    Base model 90TSI has a 7 speed DSG ($2500 option over 6 sp manual), has surprising grunt & refinement, & starts around $26k + DSG + on roads.

    Check it out guys; cars in this class don’t have to be whitegoods or boring.

  • Phill

    Not one for Drivers but it still has its uses,my grandma has to drive something.

  • http://integra holstein hore ).( ).(

    Its interesting how the big manufacturer , eg GM , toyota,
    all fall into the same trap ,” IAM THE BIGGEST AND THE BEST , SERVE EM UP ANY RUBBISH AND THEY WILL BUY IT ”

    The game has changed , now only the best will pull the consumer dollars .

    The astute buyer will actually spend more dollars in a recession seeking the value for money quality product , with longevity.

    A four speed auto in 21st century is poverty , when vw are offering 7 speed DSG under $30,000 .

  • Dlr1

    Gee… underpowered and a 4 speed auto… sounds a bit like a VE Omega.

    Salesman… 5 y.o Corolla v Golf…. no brainer the jap car (any of them ) will always be cheaper to maintain than a 5yo Euro!

    As for the price… who pays retail these days anyway? Certainly not VE or FG buyers, nor Camry or Corolla buyers either.

  • Tomas79

    Good on Ya Dan,
    Funny how a “boring” car such as this, really gets the Muppets excited!!
    I think a lot of the clowns on here should really get over this tall poppy syndrome they have!!!

  • Tomas79

    By the way, this might be a boring class, but then again so are the Australia built large bread and butter Family cars (Commodores & Holdens) and especially their ute siblings (which a lot the Toyota Knockers on here drive)!!

  • Chucky

    And another thing Dan,

    I totally disagree that cars in that price range are just meant to be whitegoods A to B transport. Instead of a $32,000 Corolla, you could get a:
    - Mitsubishi Lancer VRX
    - Mazda SP23
    - Subaru Impreza RS
    - Peugeot 207
    - Skoda Octavia
    - Volkswagen Golf
    etc.

    All those cars are much more exciting to drive than a Corolla, yet they will also get you from A to B just fine.

  • Tomas79

    I wouldn’t buy one, but in term of looks, I reckon this corolla certainly looks much better then the New Mazda 3, a lot of you guys rave about!! But for some people it’s too hard to look past the badge, and their personal bias!!

  • realcars

    So Dan and Thomas69 would pay 32k for one.Congratulations.

    Then again possibly better value than a Lexus(Camry)or a Prado(Hilux)made in a Lexus factory.

    U guys should do lunch.LOL

  • Tomas79

    Realcars, obviously life for you is like a box of chocolates in’t it?!

  • Dan

    Dan said – “I wouldn’t buy it myself”

    Tomas79 said – “I wouldn’t buy one”

    Realcars said – “So Dan and Thomas69 would pay 32k for one”

    Congratulations Realcars! You win the ‘I can’t read properly’ award! Well done! :)

  • realcars

    U pair fancy yourselves as a pair of tall poppies it would seem.

    I’d love to be a fly on the wall if u do lunch.LOL

  • Dan

    Wheelnut – “Dan do you use those “subjective” terms when your someone be it your boss or even the auditor asks you a question in regards to the financial situation?”

    No. What has that got to do with my comment here?? Care to explain?

    Simon said – “Is it a suitable car for anyone who posts on CA? Doubtful!”

    Because the handful of CA readers commening here are a fair representation of the public… Yeah, ok.

    Wheelnut – “IMHO Toyota are scared that whereas before very few people would even bother looking at a Mazda or a Mitsubishi it could end up that in the future very few people would even bother looking a Corolla.”

    IMHO, you got no idea what Toyota is thinking, nor what holds for the future. I’ll leave it at that.

    Salesman said – “And he will agree with me when i say nobody knows what a car is worth after a few years”

    So if I buy a new VE, and there is a two year old VE for sale next to it, I won’t know how much the new VE will be worth in two years time? Give me a break!!

    Jason P said – “I’ve driven a couple of Golf VI models recently, & they weren’t boring, nor had cheap interiors.
    Very quiet & refined actually.”

    I don’t understand why you guys get so excited about the Golf? Has anyone here lived in Europe at all? Over there they are thought of the same as you guys think of the Corolla over here, bread and butter and boring! I’m talking from experience too. You guys should get out there and seriously get enlightened about the real world.

  • Tomas79

    Realcars,

    Congratulations Realcars! You win the ‘I can’t comprehend properly’ award tonight too!! Double win for you, I’m sure you will celebrate with your bottle “jimmy” tonight?!

    By tall poppies, I was referring to the world’s no.1 Car manufacturer, the largest, most successful manufacturer, the Toyota!!

  • Alex

    Dan, about the Golf, as you may have read on my comments before I am from England so yes I can confirm that you are right and the Golf is spoken of in the same sentence as a Corolla or Auris. But it is still more highly thought of, it is still more prestegious and it is still the choice for people with money that simply don’t care about their car and also picked by many that do. And it is certainly a better car. Volkswagen still has a real air of superiority over brands such as Toyota, Ford, Mazda etc.

  • Tomas79

    Dan Says: “I don’t understand why you guys get so excited about the Golf? Has anyone here lived in Europe at all? Over there they are thought of the same as you guys think of the Corolla over here, bread and butter and boring! I’m talking from experience too.”

    So true Dan, I lived & worked in Germany, Baden-Württemberg in particular, the State out of which Porsche and Mercedes Benz comes from (BTW the local Cops have Mercs and Porsche 911s). And as a matter of Fact being an Engineer myself, i had 2 mates working Daimler R&D Centre…
    Anyway, cut a long story short, VW was only common in the Poorer Northern States. In Germany it was genuinely a car for people who didn’t care about cars!! If the VW GOLF had a Toyota Badge, most of the you guys would be pointing out it’s FWD torque steer!!

    Also I have just spent few months in Western Africa, And Next week I’m going back in for a few more!! Out in the Bush, It’s Toyota or your walking!!

  • Dan

    Alex, I disagree. THe characteristics of bread and butter type car (that the golf and corolla is) and prestigous, are mutually exclusive. I’ve lived in various countries in Europe over the years, and as far as I’ve noticed, no one thought of Golf as prestigeous, sorry :)

  • realcars

    How did u and Dan ever get through Uni?

    U guys are really thick so much so that I can’t be bothered arguing with the pair of u.

    Frontman among others have all made valid points in relation to the Corolla and then u both resort to insults.

    A while back Thomas69 wanted to do me physical harm on this blog because I pointed out that his Prado had more humble origins.

    People are entitled to their opinions and don’t need to be told they are inferior because they disagree with u.

    U guys should do lunch though.Trust me.LOL.

  • Dan

    Haha Tomas! What I find very funny about Australia, is that those with no idea (i.e. never lived any where else) are so mistaken, and think of certain cars as if they are something they are not. Us Australians think of euro cars so much higher than Europeans themselves. It makes me laugh a lot!

  • Dan

    Realcars, I have not insulted anyone here. THe comment about you wining the ‘I can’t read award’ was very valid don’t you think?

  • JasonP

    The fact that a Golf in Oz is a less common sight than a corolla, makes it a little different, & therefore appealing.
    I’ve never read a road test where an enthusiast has picked a corolla over a Golf.

    Nobody was really getting excited over the Golf, however just to go out on a limb, I prefer the styling of the Golf VI over the Corolla, & having driven both cars, prefer the way the Golf VI drives & handles over the Corolla.

    I’d bet very few get excited over the Lexus IS in Japan. Not a slag of your car, Dan. LOL!

    The BMW 3 Series is used as a Taxi in Europe, but commands respect and/or prestige over here, etc.

    I don’t think there’d be too many that would argue the Corolla is dynamically superior to the New Golf, & also few Corolla owners or potential Corolla buyers would care.

    No real serious slagging of the ‘Rolla on this forum, but I wouldn’t buy one either.

    Do like the Leather Option though. It’s win/win.

    Nicer interior, & one less cow. Seeing as the harvesting of the Leather results in no good for the donor cow, you might as well provide me a steak for dinner as well.

  • Tomas79

    Realcars, you frightened little princess, i hope you actually looked up the origins of the Landcruiser 120 (Prado and Lexus GX) and realized the it’s a different platform to the Hilux, and if it shared a platform with the hilux, it would be even better!!

    But then again, i bet looking up info, and reading in general makes your head hurt!!

  • realcars

    No wonder the world is the way it is.LOL

  • realcars

    Mine Got my tax paid for their education!!!!LOL.

  • JasonP

    Dan,

    A lot of people think very highly of Japanese cars too, but they aren’t necessarily better than European cars.

    Horses for courses.

    Been surrounded by Jap cars all my life, I must think of them they way the Europeans think of VWs.

    Even though I haven’t travelled extensively, I continually read of the relatively small market share Japanese cars seem to have in Europe.

    So the Europeans think VWs, Beemers et al are nothing special, yet haven’t gravitated to Planet Nippon either.

    People will always pay for some things that are less common or a little different, otherwise they’d never sell a Citroen etc etc.

    Can you believe the Yanks can’t even buy Alfas etc?

    Lauded in Europe & Oz as drivers cars, with quirky features, but can’t get a toehold in the US.

    maybe we should send them our left over 4 speed auto Corollas…

  • Tomas79

    Realcars,
    I wanna know where my tax money I paid for your education was diverted to?!

  • Frenchie

    Whats with the radio in Toyota’s. They look like they are never intergrated with the dash. It looks like someone gone down to there local autobarn and slaped a radio in.

  • realcars

    No prize for second.Ha Ha Ha.

  • Cupid Stunt

    Dan & Thomas70 – Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah BLah Blah

    As for the car itself – Ok I guess not for me certainly not at that price, wow it has leather and Co. Most folk who buy these drive no more than 7-8K K’s per annum to Coles and the odd country run for a day out with the Thermos. Dependable and reliable and easily sold on when you’ve knackered it. Buy a Golf instead and feel a bit better about yourself.

  • Dan

    What I was trying to say is that, I felt seriously embarassed as an Australian, being in Europe, seeing what people there think of their own cars, versus what we think of their cars. Flipping it the other way around, we don’t think much of our cars. Neither do they. To anyone who thinks that Golf is anything special, you got no idea hahaha! Golf = European Corolla! hahahaha, Feel a bit beter about yourself Cupid! ROFL!

  • JasonP

    And C-Stunt doesn’t live here!

    Maybe not everyone in the Northern Hemisphere thinks the Golf is boring.

    Plus, Golf VI was only released in Oz on March 1.

    Go have a look & a drive, & compare it to Corolla yourselves….

  • JasonP

    Dan if corolla was the ducks, there wouldn’t be a “Euro Corolla”.

    Just “Corolla” :-)

  • Dan

    I said euro Corolla in the sense of where you guys are taking the piss. Because mate, the way you are talking about the Corolla here, the Europeans talk the same way about the Golf! And that’s a fact mate! Again, kived in Europe for 10 years, no European will tell you that the bread and butter Golf is special! Volkswagen… the people’s car.

  • Cupid Stunt

    Dan – why the vicious attack. All I gave was a preference that the Golf would be more my thing IF I was in that market. I never said the Golf was “anything special” Your words not mine. If indeed you actually read and remember what others have said you will know that I have stated on other posts that the Golf VI was a little bland and boring but technologically improved. Fact.
    So wind you neck in and stop thinking EVERYONE is out to get you.
    Just for the facts I live in the UK, I lived in OZ for a bit (Kew, Melbourne) and have seen and experienced what most like to drive “down under”.

  • omgwot

    *yawns* why did i even bother reading about this car, no offence to the author, not your fault it’s a boring car…dancing girls & fireworks could not make this car exciting

  • http://carAdvice The Salesman

    Dan,
    Salesman said – “And he will agree with me when i say nobody knows what a car is worth after a few years”

    So if I buy a new VE, and there is a two year old VE for sale next to it, I won’t know how much the new VE will be worth in two years time? Give me a break!!

    How do you know what a car is worth, if no body wants to buy it? My point is (and i suspect you are clutching at straws) how do you know a used car value unless you can find a buyer for it? If you can answer that then you could have a job at any car yard.

  • Tomas79

    Omgwot,
    “What a boring car”, yet you decided to comment on it… Hehehe, what a tool!

  • Dan

    Salesman, your philosophy or whatever you are trying to do makes no sense what so ever. I won’t make any further comments on it.

  • http://carAdvice The Salesman

    Dan,
    Sorry, i have been drinking. My point is a car is worth whatever someone will pay for it. No one can guess a value of a car. Whats popular new is popular used? well Commodore was the number one seller in Australia? So why are thay as popular as aids second hand?

  • Dan

    Mazda 3 is popular new car. Why is it not popular as aids second hand?

    WHo cares. Point is, resale value can be estimated, and is a valid consideration when choosing to buy a car. I wouldn’t pay a dollar for a seond hand commodore. Does that mean it’s worth a dollar? No. Enough of this philosophy crap hey.

  • Cupid Stunt

    Yeh crap Dan – geddit

  • Tomas79

    The Salesman,
    I’d say Commodores are probably more popular second hand!!
    Since about 87% or more of them are bough by fleets when new, based mostly on corporate deals then personal choice. And probably not too many young fanboys, and people in low socio-economic group that idolize them so much can afford them brand new . They are mostly popular as second hand because they offer very cheap bang for those people!

  • o

    at least in Europe the golf which is bread and butter model there is still the class leading car over there which says something. the corrola is lame. calling it auris would of unnecessarily made to many old people wet there pants in excitement

  • Reality

    Toyota would probably be lucky if the Ultima sold 5% as a total of all Corolla sales. They make most of their money on the Ascent for fleet and they build it for that exact market. Jazzing it up with the Conquest for private buyers wanting a little bit extra and the Ultima for people who…uhmmm…well now that I think about it I don’t know who they target it to except maybe elderly people who have bought Toyotas all their lives and are unwilling to look at alternatives. I was talking to the Toyota sales person who handles our fleet and I asked why the Corolla and Camry seemed “unfinished” in comparison to the equivalent Honda and Mazda. The answer was fleet sales. Companies are generally unwilling to spend more than necessary for a car for the rank and file. As long as it is reliable for 3 to 5 years, cheap to maintain (say max $400 a year), and has a decent chance of selling/trading in for a good price at the end, it gets the nod. Safety features and “green-ness” are starting to be included on that list but still have a little way to go. By the way, there are people out there who make a living off th prediction of used car values. Obviously some are more successful than others but that is the way the fleet leasing business goes. The Toyota slogan “Toyota means business” says it all really.

  • Wheelnut

    The difference between Most Australians and Europeans in relation to their cars is:
    When Aussies who want to upgrade their car usually sell the Corolla and buy a bigger car like an Landcruiser as they tend to think that bigger is ALWAYS better.
    Whereas in Europe when people upgrade their Golf they simply buy a Golf that is higher up the Golf range.

    Which makes sense because if you have enjoyed driving your econobox for so many years why not buy another one that has more features etc rather than buy a completely different car. [they're more loyal [to locally built cars] than most Aussies]
    It also shows just how image-conscious some Aussies are.. why would you buy a Landcruiser when it doesn’t really suit your needs or you can’t really afford it?

    The other thing is as you make your way through the VW or Golf range [for example] you can see that there are enough changes in terms of features and performance etc to justify the increase in price – then there are the options. Unfortuantely the same can’t really be said about Toyota or the Corolla.

  • FRUGAL-ONE

    Great vehicle, MUCH better that a i30, but silly money for that model.

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Dan

    Wheelnut said – “The difference between Most Australians and Europeans in relation to their cars…”

    Wrong. It is a fact that most euro countries penalise you for having a larger car, since the continent is so populated with people, allowing everyone to have larger more polluting cars would be very detrimental to the environment. There are countries in europe, where for you to own a large V8 or even a V6, you’d be spending massive amount of money on rego, as it is directly proportional to the size of the engine. Owning a 2L 4 cyl car is pricy already. It is not that europeans are happy to putt around in small cars all the time (although comes in handy in some cities due to the width of some streets and parking), but because most can’t afford to, and are effectively FORCED to drive small cars. In that respect Australia (together with US and others) is a lucky country. But from the point of view of Europe, it makes sense, as it is very densly populated place.

    There are people who buy corollas all the time, rather than a larger car. Perhaps to them the ‘upgrade’ will be the leather seats and so on in this model. Again, I can’t comment on people’s reason to buy this car, as I woudln’t personally either. But since this is the first corolla with leather seats (is it? I think it is. Don’t know much abouit them) it appears that perhaps there was a demand for a vehicle like this from the corolla client base. Keep in mind, there are a lot of people loyal to the corolla. As much as you hate it, don’t understand it, and want to deny it, it’s a fact!

  • VW Freak

    ROFL… anti-spam word = “faster”

    Matt Brogan writes:
    “smart card entry with push button starter”

    “The instrumentation, known as an ‘Optitron Combimetre’”

    Matt, it’s simply “smart entry” – it’s not a card as such, more of a remote fob that stays in your pocket/bag. Also spelling – “Combimeter”.

  • Tim

    Conclusion to this thread: The Corolla is a decent yet overpriced car – especially when there are more capable, exciting and more value for your buck vehicles available. Eg. Mazda 3, VW Golf, Subaru Impreza, Ford Focus……

    Enough bickering, I win :D

  • Sam

    Why is Dan so angry? I got attacked for saying I can get an Aurion for the price of the Corolla in the article. As if I was wasting everyones time with what I thought was a completely valid point. Lighten up Dan.

  • Wheelnut

    I know sam.. I have seen a number oToyota Dealers in Perth [which is where Dan is from] with adverts painted across the windows of their showrooms or on the actual cars saying Aurion SX6 $32990 Drive Away and others with Aurion Sportivo $36990 Drive Away..
    I have even seen a couple of TRDs on Toyota yards for around the same price [that's 40-50% off what they were when they were re-released]

    However; because the cars aren’t listed at these prices on the Toyota Website – where the SX6 is $38,990 and the Sportivo is $42,990 then there is no way that you could possibly pick up an Aurion for the same price as the Corolla featured above.

    Despite the fact that when you add dealer delivery government charges and rego etc you would be forking out $36-38K. Which makes the idea of paying close to 40K for a Leather Bound Corolla even more ridiculous.

  • Tim

    To be fair though, the competitors offer the same thing! Lancer – Asspire, 3 – Maxx, Impreza – RS, Focus – Zetec all cost $30 000+ just like this Corolla, so you cant just say blame Toyota for offering this sort of specification.

    People will surely buy this Corolla at this price, just like VW will sell a $38 000 Golf – although in smaller numbers than the base spec models. So you can say who would pay $32 000 for any car smaller than an Accord Euro etc.

    A base Accord Euro makes so much more sense than the top spec small cars though.

  • Simon

    Relax Sam.
    As a tiger is recognised by it’s stripes, so Dan is recognised by abrasive, argumentative and ignorant comments. I was really hoping he would grow up and perhaps get a hobby or something. He is out to pick a fight.
    Just enjoy the irony and don’t take it personally – it’s good for a laugh.
    For what it’s worth, I thought your comments were funny too!
    “tarted up,overpriced, aging Corolla.” Hehehe

  • Wheelnut

    Tim the Impreza isn’t really a Rival to the Corolla as it offers the assurity of AWD – so whilst not being a performance car as such like the WRX; with the RS you still the benefit from what Subaru has learnt from thier experience in WRC.

    Yet given that Master Bates won the ARC in a [modified] AWD rolla surely Toyota could offer [or at least consider offering an AWD econ-obox for the same price as the Impreza.. or at least oput an "F1 Inspired" bodykit on it I'm sure that would go along way towards changing Toyotas [and the Corollas] bland and boring image.

  • http://ozmazdaclub.com ozmazdaclub

    What gets me is that Toyota are happy to seel the Corolla as a fleet car and reap the sales but private buyers are the ones that they should be hunting….I might be loyal to Mazda but even the current Mazda 3 is far better looking than the Corolla and has always been just behind it in the sales race and Mazda don’t play the fleet market. With the new 3 arriving soon the Corolla will go a further step back with some new models in the small-med class with all new engines and gearboxes the Corolla is very dated.

    I would have no problem having a smiling 3 in my driveway.

  • Simon

    Wheelnut, I agree they aren’t direct rivals. Subaru makes good cars, no doubt about it but the “assurity”, as you put it, is a bit of a PR beatup with which they have done well.
    AWD is fun for beating an SS off the mark in your RS during a downpour but it’s not going to help you avoid an accident, UNLESS you need to accelerate out of a dangerous situation (not a common circumstance unless you are already driving aggressively). Driving “normally” in adverse conditions the only benefit from AWD is better traction when accelerating heavily. It makes no difference when braking. So my argument here is based around your average driver, driving normally under less than ideal circumstances.
    We all seem to agree the corolla is boring and bland. But it will sell well. Some people obviously don’t care about special looks when it is known to be functional and reliable.

  • Al Juraj

    I still believe the AE102 is the best front-drive Corolla ever made. This new model has similar performance and rear suspension which is a step backward from the fully independent setup of its predecessor. Better engine technology may have been negated by more weight, but they could have done more than 100kW from a 1.8.

    Unfortunately, it’s a missed opportunity for Toyota not coming up with a really excellent bread-and-butter model. Endowing it with an expired 4-speed auto is simply for cost-cutting, nothing else, but I don’t mind paying an extra grand for the fifth gear. They must have given it to the 8-speed Lexus models by mistake. I tested an Ascent sedan and second gear seems too long, struggling to accelerate after flooring the pedal and overtake. The gears are widely spaced and this could be the culprit for the lack of performance. I don’t expect it to be a race car but the 5-speed would have done a lot better for the engine.

    It’s ok enough to get second in sales, but then again, the topseller is a crap car as we know. I would rate this as mediocre. It’s Toyota’s most successful model but they didn’t do it justice – just not as good as it could have been.

  • http://autonarod.net AUTONAROD.NET

    Прикольная тачка у нас в УКРАИНЕ будет стоить порядка 300 000 гривен при моей зарплате мне нужно 30 лет копить

  • Dan

    LOL @ AUTONAROD.NET. Google translate to the rescue:

    “Cool car with us in Ukraine will cost about 300 000 hryvnia, with my salary, I need 30 years to accumulate”

  • Phill

    Petrol Powered Prius.

  • Tim

    Russia/Ukraine is full of exotic cars. The amount of Bentleys/Ferraris/Lambos on the streets you see in a day is close to 10. Dont even get me started on BMW’s and Mercs, those are like Falcodores here!!

  • The Realist

    More than 100 responses – hilarious how much controversy the big T causes!! And it’s the usual suspects too!!

    I’d never get a Corolla for $30K+!!! Too many other better cars in the price range. Accord Euro for one.

    Did I read correctly – xenons on the humble whitegood Toyota? Andrew M – care to comment? :-)

  • Dan

    Realist, there are so many responses because as usual, toyota stirs passion with plenty of people on here haha.

  • Tomas79

    Dan,
    Too right!!

    Tim, Too bad nobody honest or law abiding in Russia/Ukraine can actually afford one!!

  • Tim

    Oh really Tomas? Did you used to live there or just talking from what you see on tv?

  • Dan

    Tim. I’ve been to Russia myself. Tomas is right. Honest person will not get far in Russia, nor Poland or Latvia for that matter :)

  • Tomas79

    Tim,
    Yes i have been to Russia, and it is common knowledge!!
    Do you know what the average salary is in Russia?

  • Lukaas

    Yeah People dont realize..
    When they say Toyota Corolla tops sales.
    They dont talk about the “luxury” version.

    People who buy corolla, MOST of them, buy the base spec auto.

    Its for people who only wants to spend under 25K on an economic car.

    Someone here brings up an XR5 Focus… Lol… Over your head!?

    We’ll do comparison on “hot hatches” When Toyota has a Hot hatch… but they dont.

    No doubt Toyota over charge for their cars down under… because they can….

    when sales show they have to price lower to compete.. then they do it… law of business 1.01

  • CB

    Dan Says:
    March 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    “Realist, there are so many responses because as usual, toyota stirs passion with plenty of people on here haha.”

    I think they’re actually closet Toyota fans, especially Bavarian Missile. She may drive a BMW 318 Ti but she aspires to the six cylinder goodness of TRD!!

    :-D

  • Dan

    CB said – “I think they’re actually closet Toyota fans, especially Bavarian Missile. She may drive a BMW 318 Ti but she aspires to the six cylinder goodness of TRD!!”

    Serious? 318 Ti?? Now that sure is a bavarian ‘missile’!! ROFL!

    But yes, I agree. They are closet toyota lovers. They pounce on every toyota article making emotional comments, so my guess is deep down, they love toyota. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ordered one of these Corolla’s already either. :P

  • Tomas79

    Spot on Dan and CB!!

    Wheelnut Says: “I have seen a number Toyota Dealers in Perth”…. bet he was like a kid in a candy store!! :-)

    Dan, Its not a 318, but a 12year old M3….
    Probably even makes this corolla look more desirable!!

  • Driving Driver

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  • Dan

    LOL, that’s just gold, Tomas! :)

  • The Realist

    CB Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 9:53 am
    “I think they’re actually closet Toyota fans, especially Bavarian Missile. She may drive a BMW 318 Ti but she aspires to the six cylinder goodness of TRD!!”

    I don’t know what she drives – perhaps care to enlighten us BM? We know your *man* Wheelnut drives Holden…

  • Simon

    Wheelnut drives a Subaru Impreza RS not a holden.

  • ChineseDriver

    This car is for people who want to show off their wealth:

    “Look, I could just spent $30K for a Corolla, and this is what real rich people do.”

    (They also wash hands with red wine, use silk as toilet papers)

  • JapaneseGuy

    Wow, i have seen a lot of complaining so far. Complained all you want people, Toyota will still be the #1 Automaker on the market today.

  • maximark

    I don’t understand why a lot of people keep complaining about the Corolla or it’s just they want to be known as Toyota haters . It’s a small car that has above average in every areas ; cheap to run,handling is OK, 5 stars safety,has good resale value and mot importantly very reliable. I have an Impreza hatchback myself and I regretted that I have bought it,lot body roll, unbearable tyres’ noise, rattles and squeaks..etc… I would buy the corolla over it anytime for my next upgrade.

  • Berealistic

    i love how ppl just bag out toyota coz their cars arent high tech/super handling/ultra quiet/super comfortable blah blah blah…

    this is the reality of the world….

    u gotta get what u can for your money.. for all ur demands and wants of a 30k car ud better save up a few more years for a decent second hand euro car and stop complaining and start working hard….

    this car was made to suit a particular group of ppl with a particular cost in mind with a particular use in mind.. not to track/race, speed around corners, having a chaffeur or to enjoy zomg amazing in-car entertainment… this is a GOOD QUALITY and RELIABLE cat to get u from point a to point b…

  • sarah

    I’ve now had two Honda Civics both of them did 200,000kms and did not have a single thing extra go wrong in their servicing over that period. Basically the day you bought the car you knew exactly what all your servicing costs are going to be right up to 200,000kms. Honda’s are also great fun to drive and they have better fuel economy than the Toyota. If it wasn’t for their new dash design I wouldn’t even be looking at a Corolla. All reports coming from Mazda 3′s tho are good. Those cars seem to be reaching 150,000kms in the reliability reviews not many reporting they have hit 200,000kms yet. Every report says they are fun to drive. No I don’t buy a car to get from point A to point B Toyota. If I wanted that I would go on public transport. There is huge market for fun to drive cars and Toyota have completely missed out. It’s between Honda and Mazda for me.

  • http://caradvice Ted

    We will have to wait until the end of this year (2009) for the 2 litre Corolla to be released – initally in the upspec models, the 2 litre will more than likely be pushed accross the range, I WOULD HOPE.

  • FrugalOne

    Corolla does NOT need a 2L

    What it needs is 5 speed auto, elec. windows in rear, TCS, ASC and 15,000km service interval on the Acent/base

    PS NOTHING can touch the Japanese built ES Lancer at the moment @ the low $20′s

    Cheers

    F-0

  • http://caradvice Ted

    Corolla needs 2 litre and 5 speed box and it will get both of these at the end of the year (only i top spec models now). TCS and ASC it has in some models, but what it really needs is decent REAR suspension and not that sill torsion bar set up that make the car bounce everywhere. However, with the 2 liutre it will be a decent car to drive and I cannot wait.

  • http://caradvice Ted

    Face lift Corolla will be available around mid / end Sep 09 and will be better.

  • Byron

    My friend has this Corolla except in ascent model. Exterior looks very rushed & seems like they couldn’t be bothered to make it good. Interior, pretty ordinary. Mazda 3 & Holden Cruze looks heaps better. Overall, i don’t like it. IDK why maybe, its me, but i get sick of it beating Mazda 3,among other reasons. I’d buy Mazda 3 over this any day. I’d even buy a Holden Cruze over this. Can’t wait for the day when Toyota isn’t No.1 Manufactor in Australia. Go HOLDEN!

  • http://CarAdvice Ted

    The 2 litre is coming Dec 09 / Jan 10 and it will only be in the Uiltma sedan. However I understand that the 2.4 will be available in the ZR hatch – cannot wait. The 1.8 will continue in the base and Conquest models. The 4 speed auto will conitiue in 1.8, with 5 speed auto standard in 2.0 and optional in 2.4. Bring it on pse ..

  • Anthony

    I have just read this post,as was thinking of downgrading from my recently hail damaged,written off Volkswagen Jetta,and replacing it with a Corolla Ultima.
    But as hard as I tried,could just not fall in love with it.
    Spent a bit more,and just got a new Honda Accord Euro.

    Far superior in every respect,but especially in the value for money stakes.

  • Ted

    well the 2 litre is here as I reported some months ago, and although being some months late, it still has the4 speed auto – what is wrong with Toyota … The ZR from what my insider tells me is going to remain with the (gutless) 1.8 for th moment, however the 2.4 is still be rmoured to be placed into the ZR, along with a V6 that is currenly used in the Aurion – now that will be a nice car.

  • Blokie

    why no wagon anymore?

Toyota Corolla Specs

ASCENT : 1.8L MULTI POINT F/INJ - 4 SP AUTOMATIC - UNLEADED PETROL - 4D SEDAN
Car Details
Make
TOYOTA
Model
COROLLA
Variant
ASCENT
Series
ZRE152R
Year
2009
Body Type
4D SEDAN
Seats
5
Engine Specifications
Engine Type
MULTI POINT F/INJ
Engine Size
1.8L
Cylinders
INLINE 4
Max. Torque
175Nm @  4400rpm
Max. Power
100kW @  6000rpm
Pwr:Wgt Ratio
76W/kg
Bore & Stroke
80.5x88.3mm
Compression Ratio
10
Valve Gear
VARIABLE DOUBLE OVERHEAD CAM
Drivetrain Specifications
Transmission
4 SP AUTOMATIC
Drive Type
FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Final Drive Ratio
4.237
Fuel Specifications
Fuel Type
UNLEADED PETROL
Fuel Tank Capacity
55
Fuel Consumption (Combined)
7.4L / 100km
Weight & Measurement
Kerb Weight
1315
Gross Vehicle Weight
Not Provided
Height
1475mm
Length
4540mm
Width
1760mm
Ground Clearance
102mm
Towing Capacity
Brake:1300  Unbrake:450
Steering & Suspension
Steering Type
RACK & PINION - POWER ASSISTED
Turning Circle
10.4
Front Rim Size
6x15
Rear Rim Size
6x15
Front Tyres
195/65 R15
Rear Tyres
195/65 R15
Wheel Base
2600
Front Track
1535
Rear Track
1532
Front Brakes
DISC - VENTILATED
Rear Brakes
DISC
Standard Features
Comfort
Air Conditioning
Control & Handling
Electronic Brake Force Distribution
Driver
Power Steering, Trip Computer
Entertainment
Radio CD with 6 Speakers
Exterior
Power Mirrors
Interior
Cloth Trim, Power Windows Front
Safety
Dual Airbag Package, Anti-lock Braking, Seatbelts - Pre-tensioners Front Seats
Security
Central Locking Remote Control, Engine Immobiliser
Optional Features
Exterior
Metallic Paint
Safety
Safety Pack
Other
Service Interval
6 months /  10,000 kms
Warranty
36 months /  100,000 kms
VIN Plate Location
10-O-18
Country of Origin
JAPAN