Comments on: Porsche Cayenne hits quarter million

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:06:07 +0000

I think the Q7 would be the pick of the bunch for me, if I was in the market for one of those SUV soccer mum type cars. Probably the best looking car out of all of them in my opinion. The Cayenne just look awkward.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:17:34 +0000

Tim, you’ve got it all wrong. For a start, the Tribeca doesn’t even come into it.
The Lexus LX only really has one rival, the Range Rover Vogue and I don’t mean this simply because I own one, but the Range Rover leaves it for dead in every situation other than maybe if it turns on in twenty years without a problem.
The Cayenne is in competition with the BMW X5, The Mercedes M Class, Lexus RX, Audi Q7, Volkswagen Touareg, Range Rover Sport and the Volvo XC90.
The Audi Q5 and Volvo XC60 are in competition with the Mercedes GLK, the BMW X3 and the Land Rover Freelander.

Allow me to explain. For a start, The Cayenne, Touareg and the Q7 all share the same platform and they all have the 3.6 Petrol and 3.0 Diesel in common. That kind of puts them all in the same class already. The X5 and M Class are obvious competitors to the Q7 and the Lexus is also another competitor here. The Volvo XC60 is a compact SUV, the XC90 is full sized and goes with the X5/M Class/Q7 pack.
I know that size differs in all these cars and it is confusing but I am absolutely sure.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:40:05 +0000

That may be so Tim.. but; unlike Audi Porsche/VW and BMW etc who designed the Q5/Q7 Cayenne.Touareg and X5/X6 to be a Luxurious Sports Utility Vehicle from the outset; with all the design engineering and performance characteristics that they [the Germans] are known for

Toy-Lexus took the Landcruiser added a handful of extra features not to mention a $50K premium in an attempt to match them.

Because as far as i am aware the Porsche/Touareg; Q7 or the X5/X6 don’t share their platform with a lower ranked entry level model

I mean its like Holden taking a Commodore dropping in a 7.0 litre V8 whacking on a bodykit and hoping to be a serious competitor to the BMW M5 or the C63?

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:33:34 +0000

Alex, the RX is not in the same class. RX is against the Mer M, BMW X5, Volvo X60, Tribeca. The Porsche is up against the likes of the Toureg, Q5, LX 570 (Lexo Cruiser) etc.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:37:31 +0000

Well Dan, they’re roughly the same size and they’re roughly the same price (for the engine you get). I would say that they were in competition. However, the RX just got bigger and the Cayenne is going to get smaller so they won’t be for long. I would always take the Porsche though.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:33:39 +0000

Even though the look of the new Cayenne is an improvement compared to the original.. I would much rather prefer the new BMW X6.

Because when you get into the $80-$100K+ price range I doubt that there would be that many buyers who are particularly concerned about the cars “off road capabilities” it’s mostly about image…. if you want to go off road buy a Bowler!

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:11:11 +0000

Alex, since when is the RX in Cayenne’s class??

By: Concerned

Concerned — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:41:01 +0000

Matt I don’t think anybody (well aslmost anybody) has a problem with the code of conduct – it is a good thing. It’s just the inconsitant manner with which it is applied and the disproportionate way it is applied to any comments that may offend our friends over at Toyota HQ. Just sayin’
Debate over!

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:31:57 +0000

Concerned,

I am not going to enter in to a debate with you in the comments section of an unrelated article.

If you have an issue with the Code of Conduct you may contact CA via the Contact Us section at the top of the page.

Matt.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:26:34 +0000

I like the Cayenne. I can see why people don’t but it is quite competent and I have actually taken one off road and it is surprisingly excellent. I would buy the diesel one. I don’t like the front bumper on any other than the base ones, it makes them look weird. I think the front is really the only reason that people have to call it ugly because the rest is quite a good shape really. It would be handsome if they just redesigned the front. And it still looks better than what is to my mind, ugliest in class – the Lexus RX.
I think it just comes back to people not liking the idea of a Porsche SUV but I don’t mind because it all it will do is help sales. The next model is meant to be smaller as well so that proves that they at least have sporting intentions.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:44:10 +0000

Buck,
I actually think that the above photos do them no justice at all. In fact they look rahter ordinary in them and wouldn’t entice any buyers.
On the road however…..

By: Buck

Buck — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:41:59 +0000

I think the red Cayenne with the beige interior in the article looks very attractive.

Fuel efficent turbo diesel, smart handling Cayenne especially when fitted with their adaptive suspension, classy looks and pedigree, what’s not to like ?

By: Concerned

Concerned — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:37:14 +0000

Matt,
So why were all the comments discussing the praticality, or lack of, Prius as an everday family car deleted?
Comments such as “can a prius tow anything?” are valid and relevant to the topic.
It’s just manipulation of public comment by moderation.

By: Concerned

Concerned — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:22:30 +0000

VOC,
Yes but Toyota seem to be particularly sensitive to any negative comments.
And besides, many of those 60 comments deleted, from the prius article, weren’t negative to toyota or hybrid, but spoke of the Prius not being a car suited to may people.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:22:02 +0000

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By: Voice of Reason

Voice of Reason — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:08:25 +0000

50 of those deleted comments were from the three usual suspects. It’s not like it’s a majority, just a vocal and annoying minority.