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	<title>Comments on: NSW speed demerit points to be lowered</title>
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		<title>By: Bugzie</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-136290</link>
		<dc:creator>Bugzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can only talk about myself, i been driving since i was 18....i&#039;m 54 now i hold a HC licence. never been involved in any car accidents, few fines YES... but never been booked for driving over 15 kilometers the speed limit. now i lost my licence, i only mention one fine...lost 6 points during double demerits for not having a seat belt. driving from shop to shop around the corner from each other. doing night deliveries. now not only i feel i been robbed. but i feel i&#039;m a prison on my own home. and lost my job. FOR WHAT ?????????? i believe them people who make the road rules dont even drive....you deserve to be sued for hardship. stress. lost of job....and what family will go through with out licence. its a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can only talk about myself, i been driving since i was 18&#8230;.i&#8217;m 54 now i hold a HC licence. never been involved in any car accidents, few fines YES&#8230; but never been booked for driving over 15 kilometers the speed limit. now i lost my licence, i only mention one fine&#8230;lost 6 points during double demerits for not having a seat belt. driving from shop to shop around the corner from each other. doing night deliveries. now not only i feel i been robbed. but i feel i&#8217;m a prison on my own home. and lost my job. FOR WHAT ?????????? i believe them people who make the road rules dont even drive&#8230;.you deserve to be sued for hardship. stress. lost of job&#8230;.and what family will go through with out licence. its a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Doos</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-132160</link>
		<dc:creator>Doos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has any person or organisation conducted a study whereby people&#039;s demerit points are compared to their actual accident records? I have an aquaintance who is an insurance actuary specialising in motor insurance. He tells me that the insurance companies unofficially ignore demerit points on driving records when calculating premiums because they are absolutely no indication of driving ability. Apparently it is an open secret that those with zero or few demerit points tend to have vastly more insurance claims then those who have many demerits, mainly due to govt defined &#039;speeding&#039;!
Does that tell anyone anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has any person or organisation conducted a study whereby people&#8217;s demerit points are compared to their actual accident records? I have an aquaintance who is an insurance actuary specialising in motor insurance. He tells me that the insurance companies unofficially ignore demerit points on driving records when calculating premiums because they are absolutely no indication of driving ability. Apparently it is an open secret that those with zero or few demerit points tend to have vastly more insurance claims then those who have many demerits, mainly due to govt defined &#8216;speeding&#8217;!<br />
Does that tell anyone anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Killerlaces</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-120850</link>
		<dc:creator>Killerlaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, You alltalk about how rediculous it is for speeding demerits, try this, Three points and $250 for my P plate...only it was on and because &quot;I cant see your P plate on your tinted,slanted glass&quot; I got stung with it. last I checked, we dont design the cars and when they say &#039;you need a magnetic plate&#039; Would you honestly put one of them on your duco. when it states that doing so may damage your paintwork? Dont think so....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, You alltalk about how rediculous it is for speeding demerits, try this, Three points and $250 for my P plate&#8230;only it was on and because &#8220;I cant see your P plate on your tinted,slanted glass&#8221; I got stung with it. last I checked, we dont design the cars and when they say &#8216;you need a magnetic plate&#8217; Would you honestly put one of them on your duco. when it states that doing so may damage your paintwork? Dont think so&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevo the Devo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-119027</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevo the Devo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti spam word = &#039;faster&#039;.

Sorry Dean but that&#039;s what you get for being mostly a law abiding citizen.  Perhaps if you steal cars, ram-raid a few shops and knock over old ladies on pension day then the courts will go a bit easier on you.  When going through a school zone, you should never take your eyes off the speedo.  Inattention is the biggest cause of accidents but it can&#039;t be measured so the govt go after speeding.  Revenue above road safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti spam word = &#8216;faster&#8217;.</p>
<p>Sorry Dean but that&#8217;s what you get for being mostly a law abiding citizen.  Perhaps if you steal cars, ram-raid a few shops and knock over old ladies on pension day then the courts will go a bit easier on you.  When going through a school zone, you should never take your eyes off the speedo.  Inattention is the biggest cause of accidents but it can&#8217;t be measured so the govt go after speeding.  Revenue above road safety.</p>
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		<title>By: blitzkrieg</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-119021</link>
		<dc:creator>blitzkrieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont worry spitfire,lowering the demerits point isn&#039;t going to save this lying incompetent labour party at the next election.

its true what can happen to good drivers like dean. a 15 yr clean record should count for something.20,000km pa times 15yrs is 300,000km driven is an excellent record,yet minor infractions costing 3 pionts out of 12 over a huge time span of 3yrs is ridiculous.

what do the authorities expect from every driver,a million kms befor they say &quot;oh perhaps you are a good driver&quot;.

they are always chastising us but they never reward or praise or have any system to aspire to for having a good clean record for 5,10,15or 20yrs. And you wonder why we all have sceptacism towards police,parking offices,and the RTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont worry spitfire,lowering the demerits point isn&#8217;t going to save this lying incompetent labour party at the next election.</p>
<p>its true what can happen to good drivers like dean. a 15 yr clean record should count for something.20,000km pa times 15yrs is 300,000km driven is an excellent record,yet minor infractions costing 3 pionts out of 12 over a huge time span of 3yrs is ridiculous.</p>
<p>what do the authorities expect from every driver,a million kms befor they say &#8220;oh perhaps you are a good driver&#8221;.</p>
<p>they are always chastising us but they never reward or praise or have any system to aspire to for having a good clean record for 5,10,15or 20yrs. And you wonder why we all have sceptacism towards police,parking offices,and the RTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Spitfire</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-118076</link>
		<dc:creator>Spitfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would think that there was an election coming up in NSW. Surprise, surprise there is. Sarcasm intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would think that there was an election coming up in NSW. Surprise, surprise there is. Sarcasm intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I used to think as you do, but now realize just how easy it is to inadvertantly drive a few kmh over the limit. Once, it was not paying attention to the time (2:35) - busted at 58kmh in a school zone. Another time, not realizing I was in a 50 zone at 1am - busted at 59kmh. I had no offences for 15 years, and have now lost my license for 6 months, due to copping 5 tickets for less than 10k over in 3 years. Here was me thinking I was one of the responsible ones, as I &quot;always&quot; drive within the limit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I used to think as you do, but now realize just how easy it is to inadvertantly drive a few kmh over the limit. Once, it was not paying attention to the time (2:35) &#8211; busted at 58kmh in a school zone. Another time, not realizing I was in a 50 zone at 1am &#8211; busted at 59kmh. I had no offences for 15 years, and have now lost my license for 6 months, due to copping 5 tickets for less than 10k over in 3 years. Here was me thinking I was one of the responsible ones, as I &#8220;always&#8221; drive within the limit!</p>
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		<title>By: driver</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-117729</link>
		<dc:creator>driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 - state govts &#039;budget&#039; with forecast revenue from speed cameras - this is blatant revenue raising.

2 - the NT govt introduced speed limits on their previously unlimited highways, and road deaths have increased since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 &#8211; state govts &#8216;budget&#8217; with forecast revenue from speed cameras &#8211; this is blatant revenue raising.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; the NT govt introduced speed limits on their previously unlimited highways, and road deaths have increased since.</p>
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		<title>By: Snake</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-117688</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree with only 1 demerit for 0-10kph over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree with only 1 demerit for 0-10kph over.</p>
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		<title>By: Snake</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23523/nsw-speed-demerit-points-to-be-lowered/#comment-117683</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t actually drive like that, just making a point. It&#039;s easy to go a couple to kph over the limit, especially when the cameras are on a downhill slope (I didn&#039;t think the RTA was allowed to put them on hills.)

Keeping to the speed limit is important, but it&#039;s poor driving skills that are real problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t actually drive like that, just making a point. It&#8217;s easy to go a couple to kph over the limit, especially when the cameras are on a downhill slope (I didn&#8217;t think the RTA was allowed to put them on hills.)</p>
<p>Keeping to the speed limit is important, but it&#8217;s poor driving skills that are real problem.</p>
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