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	<title>Comments on: Alfa Romeo diesels dominate Bathurst 12 hour</title>
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		<title>By: merda bavarese</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-343368</link>
		<dc:creator>merda bavarese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rosika meno</description>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-123622</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Rick/Alan, In my eyes I consider the Alfas dominated. I mean the 147 was up against a astra that had from open wheeler drivers to v8 super car drivers vs the club racers in the 147. From talking to a team member the 147 and astra were on the same lap untill the astra got lapped by the 147 and it actually got over taken on the track. The 159 went strong all day beating quite a number of cars to the finish line. By the way to win a class you have to cross the finish line, so it just shows how strong the Alfa&#039;s are and that they can last 12 hours of full on racing around the demanding track bathurst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Rick/Alan, In my eyes I consider the Alfas dominated. I mean the 147 was up against a astra that had from open wheeler drivers to v8 super car drivers vs the club racers in the 147. From talking to a team member the 147 and astra were on the same lap untill the astra got lapped by the 147 and it actually got over taken on the track. The 159 went strong all day beating quite a number of cars to the finish line. By the way to win a class you have to cross the finish line, so it just shows how strong the Alfa&#8217;s are and that they can last 12 hours of full on racing around the demanding track bathurst.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now now gentlemen, let me clarify a few things...when we first entered Alfa Romeo into the diesel category in 2007, there was an expectation that other brands would take up the challenge...but no one has had the testicular fortitude to enter their diesels, even the Holden Astra actually runs the same engine as the Alfa 147. Also, keep in mind that the idea with an endurance event like the WPS 12hr is first and foremost to finish. Most people would not be aware that due to a freight problem, the 159 was forced to run with a completely standard road car ECU, sacrificing some 50kw, and 100Nm in the process...the car would have otherwise been 8-10secs a lap quicker...it still managed to finish ahead of several faster cars including a BMW 130i, Subaru Impreza, Mazda 3 MPS, Ford BF XR6 Turbo and Ford BF GT-P as well as a Lotus Exige. But don&#039;t worry, since the diesel class doesn&#039;t seem to be growing in this event, we will probably be running Alfa 147GTAs for 2010 against the BMW130i and Mazda 3 MPS, looking for a class win and a top 10 finish...so keep an eye out gents!!! I should know, I&#039;m one of the drivers!!! In the meantime, we take whatever PR is available from the event, it&#039;s not our fault if other manufacturers didn&#039;t want to compete in what is a fairly competitive category in Europe, or maybe it&#039;s just that they know that the Alfa diesels are amongst the best available. We put our money where our mouth is...watch this space. Thanks for you interest though, at least it&#039;s got everybody talking. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now now gentlemen, let me clarify a few things&#8230;when we first entered Alfa Romeo into the diesel category in 2007, there was an expectation that other brands would take up the challenge&#8230;but no one has had the testicular fortitude to enter their diesels, even the Holden Astra actually runs the same engine as the Alfa 147. Also, keep in mind that the idea with an endurance event like the WPS 12hr is first and foremost to finish. Most people would not be aware that due to a freight problem, the 159 was forced to run with a completely standard road car ECU, sacrificing some 50kw, and 100Nm in the process&#8230;the car would have otherwise been 8-10secs a lap quicker&#8230;it still managed to finish ahead of several faster cars including a BMW 130i, Subaru Impreza, Mazda 3 MPS, Ford BF XR6 Turbo and Ford BF GT-P as well as a Lotus Exige. But don&#8217;t worry, since the diesel class doesn&#8217;t seem to be growing in this event, we will probably be running Alfa 147GTAs for 2010 against the BMW130i and Mazda 3 MPS, looking for a class win and a top 10 finish&#8230;so keep an eye out gents!!! I should know, I&#8217;m one of the drivers!!! In the meantime, we take whatever PR is available from the event, it&#8217;s not our fault if other manufacturers didn&#8217;t want to compete in what is a fairly competitive category in Europe, or maybe it&#8217;s just that they know that the Alfa diesels are amongst the best available. We put our money where our mouth is&#8230;watch this space. Thanks for you interest though, at least it&#8217;s got everybody talking. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-117891</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok fair enough about the 147 but they conveniently leave out the fact that the 159 had NO OTHER COMPETITORS.

I stand by my statement that this is a massive PR bulldust exercise! Bending the truth at its best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok fair enough about the 147 but they conveniently leave out the fact that the 159 had NO OTHER COMPETITORS.</p>
<p>I stand by my statement that this is a massive PR bulldust exercise! Bending the truth at its best.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfonso</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-117839</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alan - you got it wrong buddy. The Alfa 147 was racing the Holden Astra. I heard they beat it fair and square on the track, overtaking it easy about mid race. Maybe the Astra did post the fastest lap, big deal. The old racing adage is, &quot;to finish first, first you got to finish....&quot;. Enough said mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alan &#8211; you got it wrong buddy. The Alfa 147 was racing the Holden Astra. I heard they beat it fair and square on the track, overtaking it easy about mid race. Maybe the Astra did post the fastest lap, big deal. The old racing adage is, &#8220;to finish first, first you got to finish&#8230;.&#8221;. Enough said mate!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-117733</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys are kidding themselves arn&#039;t they? 

They were the only cars in their respective classes!! Of course they are going to win their class!

What a load of PR bulldust!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are kidding themselves arn&#8217;t they? </p>
<p>They were the only cars in their respective classes!! Of course they are going to win their class!</p>
<p>What a load of PR bulldust!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes BM, I think they do. The 2.4 is only used in Alfa Romeos and Lancias so I think they would. The 1.9 is used in Saabs and Opels so they might be made by GM, I don&#039;t think it is though. Maybe each company makes their own for their owns cars. I&#039;m not 100% sure though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes BM, I think they do. The 2.4 is only used in Alfa Romeos and Lancias so I think they would. The 1.9 is used in Saabs and Opels so they might be made by GM, I don&#8217;t think it is though. Maybe each company makes their own for their owns cars. I&#8217;m not 100% sure though.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-117474</link>
		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm... why make special mention of the diesel catagory winner and not some of the other catagory winners? Particularly considering this catagory had so few competitors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230; why make special mention of the diesel catagory winner and not some of the other catagory winners? Particularly considering this catagory had so few competitors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/23446/alfa-romeo-diesels-dominate-bathurst-12-hour/#comment-117468</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Alfa build their diesels Alex ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Alfa build their diesels Alex ?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfa Romeo diesels are fantastic. The 2.4 5 cylinder one is absolutely fantastic and the 1.9 is pretty great as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfa Romeo diesels are fantastic. The 2.4 5 cylinder one is absolutely fantastic and the 1.9 is pretty great as well.</p>
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