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GM scraps high-performance unit

By Matt Brogan |

General Motors has today disbanded its High Performance Vehicle Operations unit instead deciding to focus on mainstream products in a battle to survive.

The Detroit based unit created low-volume vehicles for GM’s divisions designed to appeal to enthusiasts and bolster the company’s image. Products included V-series Cadillacs and the Chevrolet Cobalt SS, HHR SS and a V8 version of the Colorado.

“All high-performance projects are on indefinite hold,” said GM spokesman Vince Muniga. “The engineers are moving into different areas of the organisation, and they will work on Cadillacs, Buicks, Chevrolets and Pontiacs.”

Mr Muniga said there are no plans for high-performance versions of any upcoming cars.

The move is in the spirit of GM’s viability plan delivered to the US Treasury Department on Tuesday. In the plan, GM said its future-product focus is on fuel- efficient cars and crossovers.

It also pledged to increase its current offering of six hybrids to 14 by 2012 and to 26 by 2014. GM also boosted its request for federal aid by as much as US$16.6 billion.

The High Performance Vehicle Operations unit could be reinstated once GM regains its financial health, Mr Muniga said.


 
  • VW Freak

    Does this mean the end is near for HSV and other various V8 offerings from GMH?

  • Frenchie

    NO. I think you’ll find that HSV will be producing a vehicle that will run on LILPG(liquid injected LPG). It is said to deliver the same if not more power than 98 RON yet at the same fuel consumption as petrol and it cost half that of 98RON.
    Also the CO2 emmission are close to 0.

  • Escort_Ghia

    vw freak no it dosent i dont think gmh own all of hsv

  • max

    “The High Performance Vehicle Operations unit could be reinstated once GM regains its financial health, Mr Muniga said.”

    Why, so they can lose it all again?

  • Devil666

    Correct me if I’m mistaken, but HSV is owned wholly by Walkinshaw Inc, no?

    As long as GM doesn’t stop making performance engines it should all be ok, as my understanding was they (reshuffled folk) were more chassis/handling engineers more-so than engine designers….

    Is it just me or is it time to let HSV’s hands into the cookie jar, the cookie jar containing the LS9? The W427 was just a stupid idea, they just shot themselves in the foot in terms of releasing other engine variants. Clubsport, Senator, Maloo and Grange should all use LS3, GTS should have LS9 standard.

  • Mick

    Devil666, not sure about Walkinshaw having entire ownership of HSV pretty sure that Holden still have a stake in HSV, even though it is smaller than what it used to be. Walkinshaw definatly have a controlling share but as to who other parties are I dont know.

    The only way that the closure of GM high performance dept will affect Holden/HSV is the sourcing of their V8′s. Which for HSV is their business, however with talk of HSV moving to diesel and LPG engines in the near future this may not affect them at all hopefully.

  • http://aca Twit

    Time for GM to go belly up …. tick tock, tick tock, tick tock !!!!!

  • RoFlmaTiC

    “Also the CO2 emmission are close to 0. ”

    :-|

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    Maybe it is time for a high performance operation unit for Hybrids and other fuel alternative performance cars?

  • topdog

    No wonder thay have problems look how terrible that red thing looks shocker who would buy such an ugly car.Thay keep making cars that look old

  • Ford Ranger

    HSV will downsize for sure, less performance models maybe, but they won’t shut any doors because the V8 championship is way too important for development and advertising etc..

  • Dlr1

    The HPVO unit has little if any relevance to HSV. Their closure doesn’t mean HSV will close. The future operations of HSV are entirely dependent on their own viability. If HSV makes a profit on its operations then they would be fools to close it, if they don’t then they could suffer the same fate.

  • Limited Slip

    And on it goes……another part of GM down the toilet. Now fellas, just because they have said Holden is safe for now dont believe it. The American GM will look after its own backyard first and eventually to survive they will be an American car maker only…….the bad news is yet to come…..

  • Mick

    If the GM bankruptcy happens the way it looks like it will, even after Obama’s further fundng package, which they will probably piss that against the wall like the other money GM and Chrysler have been given, there is a very real chance that Holden will be forced to fold by GM either closing them down or selling them off like they are looking at doing with Saab.

    The difference there is that from reports the Swedish government aren’t all that interested in saving Saab, where I’m sure ours will be with Holden.

  • http://caradvise.com.au Schah7

    I will certainly shed a tear[NOT] now that
    G.M High Performance? Dept.has shut shop.
    Looks as if Saturn,Saab & Hummer are for Sale but why bother with PONTIAC & G.M.C they are both Chevy’s in
    drag and are dragging the company down ever quicker.
    For G.M. to survive they need to scrap these “pretend-brands” and focus on fuel economy & electric tech. instead.
    Because the U.S Govt. are just going to run out of “loan-money” to keep G.M head above water.
    Its not only the car manufactures that suffering the economic down turn G.M
    Get you S..t together and stop sponging of the tax payers of America.

  • Horse

    HSV could easily source there engines from somewhere else or build there own?

  • Conrod

    Horse……NO HSV could not build their own engines because they are not set up for it and could not afford the cost of setting up for it. They are used to just getting an engine out of a box and putting it in,so they dont have the engineering talent to build their own engines, unlike FPV which actually design, develope and assemble their V8 and Turbo engines.

    Shipping crate engineering at its best….lol

  • Wheelnut

    In a recent issue of Motor there is an article which says that HSV are seriously considering the possibility of future models being powered by a range of new engines apart from the traditional V8 including a Twin Turbo Direct Injection V6..

    The article goes on to say that there are a couple of HSV prototype test mules driving around with diesel engines both of which are believed to have BMW engines under the hood. so even if they can’t get the LS-7 or LS-9 HSV could go for the same engine that’s in the M3… and maybe even the same transmission

  • Wheelnut

    Horse The original HSVs used the old Aussie 5.0 Litre which was developed and built by the Holden Engine Company – here in Australai.. so maybe they convince Holden to start building the V8s in Australia again.. I mean if the engines we make here are good enough for a range of manufacturers overseas [apart from GM] then why not the Commodore?

  • Wheelnut

    Sorry my last comment [before this one obviously] was directed at Conrod

  • BK

    hey wheel nut holden dont have the technology to build there own engines and they havent for decades. It will never happen. Looks like holden will have to get and learn Fords technology to build engines. Ford always way ahead in technology.

  • Fasthonda

    When economic times improve you watch GM make the same mistakes it’s made over the years,they’re pathetic!
    They’ve always have had an arrogant demeanor because they were the NO.1 car auto manufacturer in the world and now that once great company is a dribbling fool asking for government handouts.
    Some years ago it wanted to merge/takeover FIAT-what arrogance.Typical American company,thinking they know best and are better in doing business than anyone else in the world.
    A the end of the day GM will still produce crap looking cars they are not capable of trading their way into “financial health.”
    Maybe they should stop trying to out do the Europeans in the super car stakes and concentrate on producing cars that are fuel efficient/environmentally friendly etc.
    No more of those 7+ litre monsters.

  • B-Man

    Wheelnut,
    I wouldn’t be holding your breath on the M3 motor being in a HSV any time soon.

  • http://caradvise.com.au Schah7

    Wheelnut Either you’re a “loose-wheelnut” or “nut” just perhaps LOL!
    Sorry, no way would BMW lower-itself or be so desparate to
    allow its diesel engines into a G.M vehicle be it Holden or H.S.V
    Honestly get real ol’ Chap!

  • Wheelnut

    Schah – IHate to tell you this but a couple of years ago BMW signed a “Supply” contract with GM..and that is how HSV are able to get their hands on a coule of BMW engines to use in their test vehicles.

    BMW are also in talks with an number of other comapies including cross town rival Merc-Benz to try and give the 3 Pointed Star some help in Design and Engineering as well.

    B-Man… I know but we can always dream… In return HSV could help BMW develop a M3 Ute [based on the Maloo]

  • Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

    BK – It’s not my problem or my fault if you haven’t heard or read about the Holden Engine Company.

    They recently spent approximately $400m in upgrading the facility in Port Melbourne [just down the road from Holdens Headquarters and their state of the art design Studio] where build a range of 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder engines as well as seperate engine components etc.

    The factory has been there since the 1960s building engines for the Kingswoods Toranas and early Commodores but now the majority of the engines they build at the Holden Engine Company are exported for various Euro makes.

    You should try contacting Holden if you want anymore info

  • BK

    hey bavarian holden wont be around much longer. NO GM = NO HOLDEN

  • Wheelnut

    The HH-R [the car in the photograph] is the one I think Holden should have tried to import a couple of years ago -
    in exchange for the VE

    Sure Holden would have had to do a bit of work on the suspension etc but given that its also available as a Nomad or Delivery/Panel van it would have been the perfect car to turn into the new Sandman..

    I also would have liked to have seen the SS-R Mini Pick-Up sold through Holden dealerships. But as there are so many projects “on ice” we’ll have to wait and see.

  • http://caradvise.com.au Schah7

    Wheelnut
    I’ve google G.M linking with BMW
    No mention of any association with those two companys concerning Diesels Engines
    Just a bit of nice “wish-full” thinking on you behalf Wheelnut LOL!
    I can quite understand you feeling personally stressed that
    G.M is in a huge financial cactus and THIS will affect
    Holden/H.S.V.
    Hey lets face it if G.M. goes under[broke that is] there is
    any number a car manfactures that produce far better vehicles to replace them.
    Time to more on G.M/Holden/H.S.V have had their chance now its someone elses turn.

  • Wheelnut

    Schah – just because you didn’t read about it hear about it or were unable to find anything about it on Google doesn’t mean it didn’t happen [you're not another Toyota fan are you]

    There were a number of articles about the agreement: in Motor and Wheels not to mention Autoblog and eve CA.

  • http://caradvise.com.au Schah7

    Wheelnut
    No I’m not a Toyota Freak[I like that] but I must admit despite being a touch on the boring side of things, they
    [Toyota] are way ahead of G.M Holden!

  • Wheelnut

    Schah the other thing that you probably do’t know is that GM have been supplying BMW with [automatic] transmissions for over a decade – mainly for their “entry level cars..

    And before the GM ended up in the Sh!t they were going to be the supplier of Hybrid Technology to BMW for their upcoming range of Hybrid cars such as the X6 which are expected to run on Hydrogen

    You’ve got to realise that behind the scenes various car companies have links with other car companies to assist them in one way or another. some with their perceived rivals and some that you wouldn’t expect like BMW and GM

    Given that they also have shares in one another – they are pretty aware of what the others are doing and therefore know what each others strengths and weaknesses are.

  • BK

    hey wheelnut scah7 is right that toyota is way ahead of Holden

  • Andrew M

    Where are those that ridiculed me when i said GM’s focus will be based on volume products to select viability etc.

  • john.a

    to schah7.i dont always agree with with wheelnut but on GM and holdens hes always pretty spot on,also GM suplied auto boxes to rolls royce for many year mainly because they were the best box avbl,also all car companies are doing it tough so do you honestly think that bm would say no to selling engines to HSV if it meant a profit?i think not.business is business and BM like every other company is in it for the money, no more no less.

  • http://www.stjoestech.org.au Fitz

    Big deal if GM folds down or even back into the US. Holden was not born in Fishermans Bend in 1948. The Adelaide based company pre dates most of todays auto companies & spent most of its early days assembling cars & trucks for most US auto makers including GM, Ford, Chrysler & Studebaker. They did it so well that GM moved in for the 48-215. GM has dumped many of its old engine plants on Holden only to see them improved & outlast their former life. GM uses Holden as its RHD builder & designer under names such as Chevrolet, Pontiac & Cadilac. Holden is more reliant on other Australian car companies than it is on GM. Parts sharing in Australia pre dates the Button Plan.