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Official pricing and specifications have been revealed for the new Holden VF Commodore range that will offer new levels of value and technology when it goes on sale in June.

The pricing for the VF line-up brings no surprises after an information leak earlier this week, with Holden confirming a new, lower starting point of $34,990 and reductions of up to nearly $10,000 depending on variant.

The Omega and Berlina models, as previously reported, are axed in favour of a new base model called Evoke, otherwise the Holden VF Commodore range retains the SV6, SS, SSV and Calais trims.

Holden VF Commodore Calais taillight

Holden refers to its new-generation Commodore, which continues on the same ‘Zeta’ platform that underpinned the VE model launched in 2006, as the most advanced car to be built yet in Australia.

The Holden VF Commodore is loaded with technology from the entry-level model up, with even the $34,990 Evoke boasting voice recognition activation, semi-automatic parking system, parking sensors front and rear, electronic park brake, iPod connectivity with audio streaming, and Holden’s MyLink infotainment system that includes built-in apps and operates via an eight-inch colour touchscreen display.

The local car maker has also introduced the European Isofix child seat anchorage system that is set to be belatedly approved by Standards Australia this year.

Here’s CarAdvice’s simple guide to the new Holden VF Commodore range.

 

Holden Commodore Evoke

Holden VF Commodore Evoke front side

Holden VF Commodore Evoke interior

The Evoke (main image and above) is available in sedan, wagon and ute body styles. It costs $34,990 before on-road costs for the four-door, from $36,990 for the Sportwagon, and from $32,990 for the two-door utility.

Each is powered by a recalibrated version of the VE’s 3.0-litre V6, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission only.

Standard features in addition to those previously mentioned include 16-inch alloy wheels, six airbags, hill hold control and hill-start assist, trailer sway control, dual-zone climate control, and remote vehicle start.

Optional extras are blind-spot assist and reverse traffic alert ($350), satellite navigation ($750, from September 2013) and metallic paint ($550).

 

Holden Commodore SV6

Official images of the SV6 have yet to be released, but the next trim level up from the Evoke is also available in all three body variations. The sedan kicks off at $35,990 with a manual gearbox, a $6800 reduction over the previous model. The ute costs $32,990 with both variants asking another $2200 for a six-speed automatic that is standard on the $40,190 SV6 Sportwagon.

Both transmissions are teamed with a more powerful V6 that’s again 3.6 litres in size.

As the entry-level sports model, the SV6 includes sportier-looking front and rear bumpers, 18-inch alloy wheels, side skirts, LED daytime running lights, sports seats, lip spoiler and chrome exhaust tip.

The blind-spot assist and reverse traffic alert systems become standard, with the options list comprising satellite navigation, leather seats ($1500), and sunroof ($1990) and rear spoiler ($500) for the sedan.

 

Holden Commodore SS, SS V and SS V Redline

Holden VF SS V Ute front

Holden VF Commodore SSV profile\

Holden VF Commodore SS V interior

The SS and SS V badges are also spread across sedan, wagon and ute. SS manuals are priced from $38,990 for the ute, or $41,990 for the sedan (the latter a $5800 cut from the old SS). The SS Sportwagon is auto only and costs $46,190 before on-roads.

All SS models adopt the carry-over 6.0-litre V8 but otherwise mimic the equipment and options line-up of the SV6.

SS V models range from $42,490 (manual ute) to $49,690 (auto Sportwagon) and bring a raft of extras that include 19-inch alloy wheels, leather seats, integrated DVD, satellite navigation, push button engine start, colour digital instrument display, fog lights and eight speakers.

The Holden VF Commodore SS V manual, with a sticker of $45,490, shares the biggest reduction in the range (along with Calais V V6) – costing $9800 less than its predecessor.

Sat-nav, sunroof (sedan), metallic paint and rear spoiler are optional for the SS, while SS V extras are limited to metallic paint, Bose audio and sunroof ($2490 package) and rear spoiler (sedan only, $500).

A Redline package that proved popular on the Series II VE Commodore returns for VF, adding Brembo brakes, forged 19-inch alloy wheels, sportier suspension tune, head-up display, and lane departure and forward collision warning systems for a $6000 premium.

 

Holden Calais

Holden VF Commodore front 3q

Holden VF Calais V Sportwagon profile

Holden VF Commodore Calais interior

The luxury-focused Calais comes in either sedan or Sportwagon guise, priced below $40,000 for the V6 auto sedan ($39,990) or $41,990 for the more practical variant.

Inclusive features include leather upholstery, 18-inch alloy wheels, chrome highlights, LED daytime running lights, push-button start, colour digital instrument display, blind spot and traffic assist systems, and higher-grade interior trim. Sat-nav and metallic paint are the only options.

Holden Calais V models cost from $46,990 in 3.6-litre V6 form or from $54,990 when the 6.0-litre V8 features under the bonnet.

The V badge introduces 8-way electrically adjustable driver’s seat, rain-sensing wipers, front seats with heating, satellite navigation, lane departure and forward collision warning systems, DVD player, 19-inch alloy wheels, and, for sedan only, nine-speaker Bose audio and sunroof.

Details of the longer-wheelbase Holden Caprice are being revealed later by the local car maker.

CarAdvice will bring comprehensive reviews of the new Holden VF Commodore from May 30th.

 

2013 Holden VF Commodore sedan range

Holden Commodore Evoke auto  $34,990
Holden Commodore SV6 manual  $35,990
Holden Commodore SV6 auto  $38,190
Holden Commodore SS manual  $41,990
Holden Commodore SS auto  $44,190
Holden Commodore SS V manual  $45,490
Holden Commodore SS V auto  $47,690
Holden Commodore SS V Redline manual  $51,490
Holden Commodore SS V Redline auto  $53,690
Holden Calais (V6)  $39,990
Holden Calais V V6  $46,990
Holden Calais V V8  $52,990

2013 Holden VF Commodore Sportwagon auto range

Holden Commodore Evoke Sportwagon  $36,990
Holden Commodore SV6 Sportwagon  $40,190
Holden Commodore SS Sportwagon  $46,190
Holden Commodore SS V Sportwagon  $49,690
Holden Commodore SS V Redline Sportwagon  $55,690
Holden Calais Sportwagon (V6)  $41,990
Holden Calais V V6 Sportwagon  $48,990
Holden Calais V V8 Sportwagon  $54,990

 

2013 Holden VF Commodore Ute range

Holden Commodore Evoke Ute  $32,990
Holden Commodore SV6 Ute manual  $32,990
Holden Commodore SV6 Ute auto  $35,190
Holden Commodore SS Ute manual  $38,990
Holden Commodore SS Ute auto  $41,190
Holden Commodore SS V Ute manual  $42,490
Holden Commodore SS V Ute auto  $44,690
Holden Commodore SS V Redline Ute manual  $48,490
Holden Commodore SS Ute Redline  $50,690

 




  • Andy Whitby

    So no more manual sportwagons ? Mistake Holden.

    • Steve2013

      Obviously you haven’t driven one, lol.

      • Andy Whitby

        Oh thats awkward for you because I currently drive a manual SS-V sportwagon.

        • Steve2013

          Awkward for you maybe, I can’t imagine buying one after driving it and I’m sure 99% of VE drivers and Holden itself agree.

          • mghj

            Gearbox wise, a manual VE sportwagon drives the same as a manual sedan. What is your point? Do you think the manual sportwagon gearbox shifts differently to the manual sedan?

          • Steve2013

            I think the manual box in the Commodore is so poor that I don’t understand why anyone would prefer it to the automatic. The fact that Holden has dropped it means that precious few customers felt otherwise. Clear as mud?

          • LeStori

            Australians are as lazy as the Yanks…put it in drive, mind into neutral and off we go…..

          • Sydlocal

            For a while I always wanted to crawl underneath and check if the manual gearbox in a Commodore was painted green and had a jumping yellow deer on it… ;-)

          • kyukr

            Steve, most people in Australia go for automatics regardless of how good or bad the manual or auto is.

            You could fit a car with a standard manual that was the BEST gearbox in the world and have a optional $2000 auto that was the WORST gearbox in the world and most Australians would still go for the auto. Even back in the 80s when most cars had 5 speed manuals or a sluggish 3 speed auto that cost $1500 extra, everyone was forking out the money to have 2 fewer gears.
            In the late 90s, Commodore was actually available with the same German made manual gearbox that was fitted to the then previous gen’ BMW 5 series. It was superior to the auto (at least in the BMW 535i, I never tried it in the Crummer), yet everyone spent $2000 more for the sluggish GM auto.

          • Oswald O’Bogan

            The most common use of the car is obviously for city-suburb and intra suburban commutes?
            I love a manual- in Europe it can be a necessity due to poor weather, narrow roads and high inclines. But Australian roads are like USA.

        • gtrxuone

          What it like to drive Andy?

          • Andy Whitby

            It’s quite nice 1> 2 is a bit ruff when the car is cold, other than that I dont have a problem. Isnt a manual meant to be involving?

          • gtrxuone

            It sure is.

          • Dave

            For those who dont know VE Manuals come in 3 varietys
            The 6 speed box fitted to V6 models is hopeless.
            MY07 to MY11 V8 have a different box to MY12 V8 and both V8 boxes are actually quite goo

          • Poison_Eagle

            Aisin, T56 and TR6060 respectively.

  • c3vzn

    Seriously impressed by the Evoke’s interior. Does not look like a base model at all. The exterior on the other hand…

    • MisterZed

      I have to agree. I sat in a VE Omega at the Melbourne motor show 2 years ago, and it was the biggest pile or rubbish I think I ever saw. Couldn’t believe anyone would pay $40k for that.

      • AJS

        No one did. Hopefully. Pretty sure they probably started selling them at 35k, you could surely barter the price down with the dealer. But agree, the interior of the Omega was definitely for the fleet market.

      • Zaccy16

        i agree, the base model commodore has always been hopeless and by the looks of the vf evokes exterior and the carryover wheezy 3.0 v6, it looks like to contonue the trend

        • JoeR_AUS

          Holden have re-calibrated shifting logic for the 6 speed auto, so wait for the test drive.

          • Chad

            And they have re worked the engine to produce more torque along with less weight they just may have done enough to buck the trend

          • JoeR_AUS

            Holden have reworked the 3.0L to have more torque lower in the rev range and the power has dropped slightly from 190 kw to 185 kw. So the proof will be in the driving.

        • Trevor

          It doesn’t look at all like it will continue the trend. They’ve done a bloody good job, get over your hatred of Holden.

    • AussieJ14

      And why did they have to change the name to evoke??!

      • Daniel D

        Because the Evoke is a blend of two previous trim levels. Why would they want to leave the name associated with the lowest trim level?

    • Type40

      The only issue I have with the interiors is the stitching on the dash. It really needs to be perfect as your eye is drawn toward it. One slight mistake and it cheapens the whole effect.

      • Oswald O’Bogan

        Yes- you’re completely right- after all Holden is a premium brand marketed at affluent, sophisticated cosmopolitans living within 5 km of city centres,

    • Poison_Eagle

      I agree, there’s not much splitting it from the Calais, it appears. Be nice if they had different leather seat colours like VXII had.

    • Oswald O’Bogan

      Looks like they nicked a Peugeot 307 from 2002

  • Poison_Eagle

    No power figures? They’re either saving the best til last, or they don’t want to dampen things here.

    • Phil

      They’ve taken 70kg out of it, if the diet included the engine then expect the SV6 to sport an LFX variant with around 224kw. If it didn’t there won’t be much change from the 210 of the LLT in the VE – maybe 5kw more if they’ve given it dual exhausts.

      • AJS

        I hope the Evoke gains more torque with this update. Not that I tow or anything, I just think it needs it, especially when the Falcon with the Ecoboost 2L can produce 353Nm. 290Nm from a 3L 6? A bit sad.

        • JoeR_AUS

          AJS, what you say is true but Holden have re-calibrated shifting logic for the 6 speed, which will stop the hunting that the VE did and the VF is lighter which will help as well.

          • AJS

            My comment was not regarding the transmission. It was regarding overall torque. If it had a healthier torque curve the transmission would be less of a worry. But I’m sure they have put a lot of work and thought into it. :)

          • JoeR_AUS

            I not what you mean by torque and more would be better but without a turbo, fixing the auto will make most people happy! Remember, the 3.0L will compete against most Japanese and Korean 2.4L engines and none of them are note worthy!

      • Poison_Eagle

        I don’t like how Holden manipulated people with the 70kg saving. The added techno-bloat means it’s now a 40kg saving, The spec sheet will read 40kg less than VE. Which is still pretty good.
        I would have thought LFX too complex and expensive with it’s composite manifolds?

        • Phil

          Engineering did get a 72kg weight reduction. Marketing managed to bring it back up with their requirements. It’s probably the additional sound proofing that’s brought much of that weight, which shouldn’t be too hard to remove if you don’t mind a little more road noise…

          my money is on an updated LLT with dual exhaust and 215kw for the SV6, not the LFX. Though given existing applications of the LFX, including Impala, I doubt cost is much of a factor.

          Reports are the Evoke drops 5kw down to 185, with no change in torque.

          • F1orce

            Didn’t the SV6 always have dual exhuast?

          • Phil

            no, they haven’t always. The VE does, if you ignore that both cats feed into a central expander, and exit as dual outlets (ie 2>1>2). I meant that I expected some engine tweaks would give the addtional power, not that the exhaust was upgraded to give extra power.

  • JamesB

    Electronic parking brake in a Holden? Cross your fingers that it still functions after a couple of years.

    • Daniel D

      No different then a VW owners experience with a car that cost more and is considerably smaller.

      • JamesB

        Yet these gets cars still get undue recognition.

      • Oswald O’Bogan

        The brake is made by Robert Bosch AG. It’s common to BMW, AUDI (VW) and MB.

  • MisterZed

    The only model in the range with an electric driver seat is the Calais V at $47k?? lol. You can get power seats in $33k Camrys and such these days. Talk about cost cutting. Another example of cost-cutting: all models now have the same tail-lights. In the VE, the Berlina and Calais models had larger tail-lights than the other models.

    • AJS

      I’m not exactly sure why the tail-lights are cause for comment. I mean, the majority of vehicles on the market these days have the same rear lights across all models. Maybe some differ between LED’s on higher models compared to standard globes. Just simplification of parts really. Makes perfect sense to do so. Why over-complicate it by having 3 different tail-light assemblies when you can have one that works fine?

    • Andy Whitby

      All Commodores have an electric drivers seats, as part of coast saving measure, then the part changes is the switch and internal gears to alter how many ways its electronically adjustable.

    • Daniel D

      You are really cracking yourself up about this. First you get on another site first thing this morning to have a shot at Holden about this and and then an hour later, when this article is posted you are at it again. You are really excited about the VF and its whinge potential for you.

      .

    • Shak

      All Commodore models have some form of Electric adjustment for the drivers seat. The Calais V trim scores heating, and more adjustment. Also, the VE Commodores all had the same size tailights, with different tint and bulb arrangement. Get your facts straight before you take a jab.

      • Poison_Eagle

        Do they have seat cooling too?

        • Shak

          I would love that feature but i dont think any of them do. They didn’t on VE and there has been no such announcement for VF.

      • MisterZed

        Wrong. Calais and Berlina had larger tail-lights. Omega, and the sports models had slimmer lights. Look at photos if you don’t believe me.

        • kgj

          Who cares either way?

        • AntiZed

          Mercedes must be doing something wrong with their C Class having the same tail lights! Who is this fool?

          • MisterZed

            Did I ever say there was anything wrong with having the same lights? I just said it’s an example of cost cutting.

          • Shak

            Its not cost cutting. They were all the same size. I owned a VE so i can tell you the only difference was each tail light had a different bit inside. It would probably cost more in fact to have the different insides.

          • Andy Whitby

            So do I, the calais and berlina had a larger size (luxury rear bar) Omega, SV6 SS and SSV had all the same size. Its probably not cost cutting, its that now the extend into the bot it would look od.

          • MisterZed

            Amazing that you owned a VE for how long, yet never noticed the two different tail-light sizes. I noticed it immediately after looking at 2 photos for 2 seconds.

          • Joof

            Sorry, Shak, but you are incorrect. There were two different size lights in the VE. Berlina and Calais lights extend deeper into the bumper panel (about an inch)…

            Either way, who gives a S#%t. The new lights look good, as does the whole effort. I just hope for Holden it hasn’t left its run too late.

            People have been calling for these types of improvements since the VE was released when the competition already sported most if not all of the features…

          • Oswald O’Bogan

            Then your example is a very poor example. A better example would be, say a dashboard that has visible covers for the missing switches.

        • Golfschwein

          Yes, the Calais and Berlina units extended further toward the rear bumper corners and it’s easily seen on the Holden website if you go for a colour pick and swap between sports and luxury models. That, in turn, necessitated a different bumper. I can see Holden’s sense in unifying things.

      • Kris

        Wrong! Sedan versions of the VE Omega, SV6 and SS have small, plain tail lights. SSV has the same shape as those but are blacked out. Berlina, Calais and Calais V had bigger lights with Calais and Calais V having darker tinted plastics in theirs than the Berlina. HSV were different again and unique to the HSV sedans, with a sleek LED setup. The wagons and uses were the same tail lights across the board with extra inserts for the Maloo on the tailgate. So get your facts straight before tell others to get their facts straight…

  • Chad

    42k for an SS that’s quite a bargin really, a lot of bang for your buck.

  • Sydlocal

    What is going to happen about 10 years down the track? The poor Bogans buying them second/third hand are not going to like the electric park as it will make it harder for them to do foooly sik skids bro…

    • save it for the track

      What will the knuckle draggers buy now? I can see the mechanics at Holden scratching their heads now (electric park brake??, what’s that?[something that shouldn't be in any car with sporting pretensions{SS/SS-V}]), they struggle with the basics already, adding more electronic bits to go wrong, is a recipe for…RECALLS… Count the days.

      • Daniel D

        Well if it was a Ford there would never be recalls. It wouldn’t work any better than the Holden, Ford just don’t do recalls.

        Wait for the Falcon update and buy that if you want no recalls.

    • pro346

      Well considering you think you use the handbrake to do a skid its safe to say….you’ve spent too much time in your Kia rondo .

      • Sydlocal

        I guess you haven’t heard of a ‘figure of speach’. Also what kind of ‘skid’ are you thinking of?

        Getting a car into a ‘drift’ approaching a corner etc can involve pulling on the handbrake and that sideways slide falls into the definition of ‘skidding’. Rally drivers do this all the time, especially in the FWD rally cars. Then again, what do rally drivers know about driving and putting a car into a skid to help them around a corner of unknown grip. I guess they should stick with their Kia Rondos too.

        I know that if I pull the handbrake on my Kia Rondo as I approach a corner, it can skid quite well! If fact, if you did know something about driving you would actually know the handbrake is one of the easiest ways to get my Kia to skid in the corners etc, especially being FWD. Although it can skid quite well putting it in reverse and flooring the throttle with full steering lock on!

        Just to help you out here is a definition of skid from the on-line dictionary: ‘To slide sideways while moving because of loss of traction’. Now if I am not mistaken, pulling on a hand brake can cause a car to slide sideways from a loss of traction of the rear wheels due to them locking. Seems fairly conclusive to me that an effect of pulling on a handbrake can cause a car to skid.

        Maybe you are the one who is safe to say has spent too much time in your Toyota Camry driving to and from the bowls club. Although I think you may be a ‘Holden man’ so if you like I can replace the Camry with an Epica for you…. ;-)

        • pro346

          Have you installed a “drift button” on the rondo yet.

      • Devil’s Advocate

        Did Syd’s comment hit a little too close to home pro? That can explain why you are defensive to the point of being offensive!

        • Devil’s Advocate

          Ditto Syd.

        • pro346

          What’s so offensive about driving a rondo it couldn’t be any worse than catching the bus like you. Not sure how in touch with reality either of you are but yanking the handbrake on to get the car sideways is usually in the realm of some underpowered na grey import or some hot hatch owner trying to convince themselves that it would make a good drift car.

          • Sydlocal

            Yep, Group B rally cars from the 80s were underpowered na grey imports. They only made 500+ HP, how pathetic. Even they used the handbrake to help them get sideways around corners during a rally. Same with the V8 Commodore ute that competed in some of the national drift competitions around Australia. The driver of that would have used its handbrake more than once as well. Even the Japanese RWD drift cars with up to 1000hp use the handbrake to get the car sideways at times. I would also hazard a guess the 1000+hp Pikes Peak cars also use a handbrake at times. Yep, all underpowered grey imports or hot hatches, even the Commodore Ute drift car. You said so above.

            I can see you know the effects of the various controls in a car quite well…… I think it is you who needs to get in touch with reality and stop being so naive. (I think you may just be in denial and can’t admit that you were wrong. You do realise you would be respected more as a man by actually admitting when you make an honest mistake?) Just because the V8 Supercars don’t use handbrakes to go around corners, it doesn’t mean other types of Motorsport etc don’t ie motorkhana, rally etc .

          • pro346

            So its gone from bogans in commodores to pykes peak cars…yeah OK then you were talking about burnouts on the streets not drifting/rally be a lady and admit you tryed it in your rondo…by the way the handbrake in a commodore doesn’t work on the disc it has its own drum not very effective for drifting,you think drift cars use a stock set up??? Racecars and streetcars not the same

          • Sydlocal

            I was only replying to your statement that you don’t pull on a handbrake to do skids. You didn’t specify it was for certain cars only. I am also sure even the drum set up on the Commodore and many other cars that use that system would still be strong enough to lock the rear on dirt roads etc. You do know there are dirt roads outside the city don’t you? There would hardly be a ‘young bloke’ that grew up in the country that didn’t, at least once, pull the handbrake on a dirt road coming up to a corner to get into a skid.

            Anyhow, thanks for fun bit of banter, I enjoyed it!

  • Peanut

    How is Ford going to respond to this.
    If anybody lives nearby them could they go and poke a stick at them and see if anyone is alive there please.

    • Rocket

      Why do they have to respond if the Falcon is better all round anyway.

      • Daniel D

        And sales reflect that! No wait…..

        Falcon is a good car, but if they display anything like a smug attitude they deserve to have Holden trounce them with VF.

        FG is getting old, looking old and is hopelessly under equipped compared to VF. Its also at the lowest sales its ever been. They have to do something, because they sure can’t afford to lose a few more hundred sales a month.

        • Poison_Eagle

          Ford will have to leapfrog this car on all fronts(like BA), not just match it and get complacent like they did with FG.
          Their stated goals for 2014 with economy and aero won’t cut it, let alone just integrating SYNC etc.
          What would be great is an ecoboost sports model with a manual option, with the Toyota 86 as a sort of engineering stretch target, coz if it’s low 30′s, they would be cross shopped.

          • Karl Sass

            You’re right, although something tells me Ford have put them on an impossibly small R&D budget for the task at hand. Hope I’m wrong.

    • insider

      Ford have already responded to this its called the AU falcon .

      • Con

        The AU falcon looks better .

        • Daniel D

          I’ve owned many Falcons, but no, no the AU doesn’t look better.

          The VF is to much like a Malibu for its own good, but its still one up on AU. Mostly because of the standard kit and interior. I grant you though, that the VF is the AU of the Holden lineup when it comes to exterior styling.

          Still only the short lived, fully imported Ford Taurus could challenge the AU in the styling stakes and the Taurus makes the VF look positively stunning.

          • Devil’s Advocate

            Don’t forget the Ssangyong Stavic Daniel. That car even made the styling of AU look good!

          • Poison_Eagle

            People are stupid. The only AU’s that looked ungainly were the AU1 Forte and Futura, and maybe the wagon. The rest were fine.

          • Trevor

            Yet you fail to acknowledge that the VF takes styling cues from the Camaro, which in turn, inspired the looks of the Malibu. You Holden haters still can’t see that the VF’s styling has been for the most part, praised. It isn’t the AU of the Holden lineup, goodness me.

          • mo

            I had an original AU and no it certainly didn’t look better. It had a toothy grin like a sleazy car salesman. And an interior like a fisher & Paykel washing machine.

    • Daniel D

      Its a good question. The wait for the replacement FG is a long way away, when Holden is being this aggressive in trying to keep market share.

      With Falcon sales at a record low of 700 now, how low can Ford let Falcon sales go?

  • Zaccy16

    My opinion a sv6 is a much much better choice than the hopeless base model!

    • JoeR_AUS

      Except for the people who want more economy!

      • Zaccy16

        no realy, from my experience and my uncles experience the 3.0 sidi uses more fuel than the 3.6 because the 3.0 lacks torque and has to be revved more so is more strained and uses more fuel doing so when the sv6 is more relaxed

        • JoeR_AUS

          The fuel tests for Comb, Urban, Extra all are better for the 3.0L

          8.9 to 9.5, 12.3 to 12.9, 6.9 to 7.6 for the VE

          but if you start to push the 3l to drive like the 3.6 it will use more fuel.

          • Sydlocal

            But those figures are from a lab under very strict conditions JoeR, not the real world. There have been many examples over many different types of cars over the years where the larger engined/more powerful version under certain circumstances actually returns better fuel economy than the smaller version. Zaccy16 does have a point.

          • Zaccy16

            thats what i mean, on paper the base engine is better but in practise its the opposite

    • Trevor

      Why is the base model hopeless? You have no legitimate criticism. Let’s see how it drives first.

      • Zaccy16

        they have always been, it looks very underdone

        • Trevor

          It’s interesting that you say underdone, yet the Calais and SSV were too ‘chintzy’ for you. You’re honestly have nothing interesting to add to any discussion about Holden, whatever they do you criticise. Every time you bag a Holden ask yourself the question, would I like it if it had a Mazda or VW badge on it?

    • JamesB

      The SV6 is like a poor man’s SS. It isn’t that quick anyway nor significantly more economical than the V8. It should have turbo at least.

      • pro346

        Quicker than most hot hatches..14.5 ish on the 1/4 mile is quicker than many so called sports cars

        • Sydlocal

          Sports cars don’t have to be ‘fast’ in a straight line, light weight and nimbleness are more important criteria. Why are people so obsessed with straight line ‘drags’ from 0-100?

          In the real world of roads with corners etc and not a drag strip I would like to see an SV6 keep up with hot hatches like the Opel Astra OPC, Megane 265, Focus ST, WRX and even the old torque steering Mazda3 MPS. Many of these at overtaking speeds (the hot hatches above go 80-120 from high 2-3.5 seconds) would keep an SS honest, let alone an SV6. Even the slowest from 80-120 of that list, the original Mazda3 MPS, was quicker than a HSV of the same vintage (pre-E series) in that speed bracket. Not a chance of that now though!

          Stringing together a nice set of corners is WAY more fun than just flattening the throttle from a standing start and driving in a straight line, until you get to full on drag cars that is! Life isn’t all about 0-100… :-)

          • pro346

            None of the cars you mentioned are sports cars….they all sound like hot hatches p.s proper sports cars don’t 62/38 weight distribution and aren’t based on fwd shopping trolleys . Wrx is a little different though

          • Sydlocal

            I NEVER said they were sports cars, you are only clutching at straws. I was responding to your comment about hot hatches as well as the separate bit about it also being quicker than many sports cars. I agreed with you WRT the sports car bit, but straight line speed isn’t a main criteria of a sports car so it wouldn’t be surprising if a sports car can’t do the 1/4 mile faster than an SV6. The Toyota 86 would be a good example of this. Slower over the 1/4 mile than an SV6, but I bet the SV6 wouldn’t be able to keep up with one over the great ocean road for example. You could even say something similar about a Mazda MX5, now you can’t say that isn’t a sports car…

            I hope you don’t think an SV6/SS is a sports car?

        • JamesB

          14.5 quarter? Where in the world did you get that? It barely did 15 in a recent test.

      • werg

        SV6 is about %25 more economical than V8 and $6000 cheaper. That’s reasonably significant.

      • F1orce

        Actually if you count for size of the motor, the V6 is better at making power per litre.

        • JamesB

          Well, that’s because the V8 is a pushrod. A DOHC 6-litre will make way more power than that.

  • Mikey

    I’m surprised that Range Rover haven’t complained about Holden using the “Evoke” name

    • Andy Whitby

      Because technically it isn’t Holden it’s GM, and you don’t sue GM unless your sure your going to win, or your going to have bad time. Peugeot tried HSV for their 307 badges, HSV basically said come at us.

      • Rocket

        Not much point suing GM as they are broke most of the time anyway.

    • Henry T

      I read in another artical that apparently holden had the name first in 2006 for a paint colour….

    • peddy.d

      It’s spelt differently under Range Rover dude, it’s ‘Evoque’

      • Exar Kun

        That didn’t stop the Hyundai Elentra being called just the “Lantra” here for a long time because Mitsubishi had used Elanta as a Magna model many years earlier.

        • peddy.d

          true true, funny you bring up those examples, my family’s had 2 magna’s and I’ve now got the current Elantra, all have been great cars too!

  • BMFan

    I wonder why no Aussie made car has HID lights? It would’ve been a nice feature on the Calais.

    • Christian

      Um Toyota do

    • Andy Whitby

      The Caprice does, however did you know that the headlights in both the Falcon and Commodore have to be altered before being sent overseas as they are too bright to pass DR’s. When driving my mum’s 3 series back to back with my (VE) SS-V I prefer my headlights, the penetrate the distance better, in my opinion.

      • Sydlocal

        The Falcon/Commodore have always had first class lighting compared to other cars of similar vintage, especially on high beam penetration as you experience Andy. It is obvious they are designed specifically for our conditions.

        • jrj

          “our conditions”? Is it darker at night in Australia?

          • Shak

            Long country drives between cities with often poorly surfaced and poorly lit roads. Throw into the mix the occasional ‘roo or Possum jumping out into the road and you start to see the value of headlight technology which takes all of that into account. Many Euro and Jap cars have exceptionally bright headlights, but they often dont project too far and in a narrow spread to compensate for the majority of their driving which is city based.

          • Andy Whitby

            Well yes in fact, there is fewer large cities and large distance s in between, so less light polution. Ever driven out of the city on a dark night ? I find that lights on the locals don’t need to be supplimented with driving lights for rural driving like alot of imports do.

          • sdfh

            Fewer large cities and large distances in between compared to where? Canada?
            Link me to some research that shows Australia has darker night time than other countries.

          • Andy Whitby

            Why do you think they put the telescopes and radio-telescopes here ? Because the scientists like to come down under for a holiday ? Nope, because there is lest light and RF pollution.

          • hfg

            Right, so Australia is the ONLY country in the world with radio-telescopes?

          • Daniel D

            Given there is less ambient light due to the scarcity of artificial light generated in rural and remote Australia, yes it is darker.

            Oh and the locals have tuned their headlights to pickup the local wildlife at a good distance. Spotting kangaroos isn’t really a design requirement for Japanese or Korean cars for example.

            Mazda headlights are generally appalling on high beam compared to the locals.

          • Sydlocal

            I have noticed that Daniel. My wife’s GG Mazda6 has quite good low beam with a really good spread and cut off, but the high beam is a joke as you can hardly pick the difference. Unlike the locals that have brilliant high beam penetration.

          • shfgh

            Right, because of course, Australia is the ONLY country in the world that has animals and a large distance between cities…..

          • Sydlocal

            Well other than Antarctica, Australia is the most sparsely populated country in the world in terms of people per square km and also has the most isolated city in the world (Perth)…..

          • hfgh

            Yet when you go into “rural and remote Australia” basically everyone is driving Japanese diesel Utes4WDs.

          • Sydlocal

            What has that got to do with what we were talking about ie the local cars having really good lights? You would also find many of those utes/4WDs would have spot lights as well. Then again you are only making an argument for arguments sake!!! :-)

    • Captain Nemo®™

      HID lights can be a pain in the a$$, If you’re like me and you like to keep your car clean the headlight washers can leave a freshly washed car looking like it has been crying after one use. Also the difference between a good set of halogens and HID is not that big

  • MK

    What does the gills do?

    • Phil

      allows the engine to breathe when driving through water ;-) Nah, it’s the Revlon effect, purely cosmetic.

  • Dennis

    Wow allot of positive comments… GFYS

  • barry

    Holden cant do much more now,apart from building up the stock prior to the model release.
    Its all new with sharp pricing,quality interior,and a whole new exterior look.Not 100% sure about the 380 backside,will have to see in flesh.

    • y

      Can’t do more apart from building up stock? Wouldn’t doing more be actually selling the stock before it builds up? Businesses make money from SELLING stock not storing it.

      It’s not all new, it’s mostly old, just some minor cosmetic changes on the outside, new interior with a few extra gadgets.
      Look closer at the photos to see that it is not a “whole new exterior look”. The rear of the wagon is basically identical to the VE. The side of both sedan/wagon is also near identical to VE with the same door panels and side windows used.

      • Joof

        Or if you read Barry’s post properly, he suggested building up stock “Prior to the Model Release”. Ie; before it goes on sale.

        And why can’t you use a name, does the anonymity of random letters (here and above) make you feel better about being rude and argumentative to others?

  • Guest

    Holden Epica?

  • JD

    At first i hated the design, but the look is starting to grow on me.

    The base model bumper is similar to that of the Audi ‘A’ models where the DRL’s are meant to be

  • BellyButtonSays

    If they get some good reviews from the media then Holden should expect a sales boost.

  • Sturmgewehr

    Im confused, since when has a manual been more expensive than auto?

    • Marka

      It isn’t; your comparing an auto evoke(base model) to a manual SV6 (higher spec model) – same mistake i made

  • WanttoLike

    I really do want to like the new VF…. but where is Stop/Start, Brake Energy Regeneration, Aerodynamic changes, Coasting Function etc. Dropping 40/70kgs just isnt quite enough. I know they are always limited by GM but why does everything always feel like its done in half measures.

    Also why is rain-sensing wipers only availabe on the Calais?

    • Sydlocal

      What do you mean by ‘coasting function’ WanttoLike?

      • hsfg

        Some modern autos will decouple when it senses the driver is off the throttle but not braking (so the car with coast further without needing more fuel) or when there is only very light throttle (as very low throttle is often only enough to overcome the drag of the engine and gearbox spinning).
        If you go down a slight downhill road and put a car in N, you can see the benefit as it will hold the speed whereas leaving it in gear and lifting off, it loses speed and using light throttle to keep the speed while in gear uses more fuel.

        I don’t know why one would fuss about this stuff though. It’s a HOLDEN! That’s why it’s cheap. No point putting extras like rain sensors on base models or they wouldn’t be base model.

        • Sydlocal

          Having or putting a car into neutral going down hill/when backing off will actually burn MORE fuel with most cars these days hsfg. If you let the car coast the engine is burning fuel to keep the engine idling. The majority of cars, regardless of if they are manual/auto, diesel/petrol will actually cut the fuel all together when you back off or take your foot off the throttle when going down hill. Even the old 1994 BMW I used to own a few year ago did that. You would also find a light pressure on the throttle to hold speed whilst still burning fuel, wouldn’t be a lot different to that of an idling engine because the drivetrain would be relieving a lot of the load placed on the engine so the difference, if any, would be negligible.

          The only auto de-coupling I know of is when you are stopped at the lights with your foot on the brake. De-coupling like you mentioned would mean they wouldn’t be able to take advantage of what I was describing, let alone how dangerous that would be having a car go into ‘angel gear’ every time you backed off or went down hill. Reminds me of our old bus bomb that did exactly that when electric overdrive was engaged. Scary!

          • sfghg

            Did you try testing that with your old BMW? BMW’s instantaneous fuel usage gauge would show a light throttle to hold speed on a slight downhill using maybe 5L100km whilst coasting in N would be about 3L100km.
            I’ve tested it in several cars on slight declines and coasting in neutral always gives a lower consumption than light throttling., particularly at higher speeds.
            You can’t maintain speed down a slight downhill when backing off the throttle and using the fuel shut off. There’s too much mechanical drag and you’ll only get a few moments of zero fuel usage, then you’ll have to power again. Also the fuel shut off only works at certain rpm, usually over about 1500rpm and a lot of coasting, particularly in automatics is done at revs lower than that, so the car keeps burning fuel anyway but still has the extra mechanical drag of the spinning drive train.

            See below for excerpt of Porsche’s PDK press release:
            “The ‘coasting’ function available with Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) enables you to save even more fuel where the situation allows. The engine is decoupled from the transmission to prevent deceleration caused by engine braking. In this way, optimum use is made of the vehicle’s momentum, allowing it to coast for longer distances.
            For example, you may want to slow down from 65 to 40 mph in anticipation of the change of speed limit ahead. As soon as you release the accelerator pedal, PDK deselects the current gear automatically and you begin to coast in neutral until you have reached your desired speed. The moment you engage the accelerator or brake pedal, PDK selects the appropriate gear smoothly and seamlessly within a fraction of a second.”

          • Sydlocal

            Depends on how steep the hill is don’t you think? I know quite a few hills where even with no throttle the car will still speed up! It does vary a lot with the conditions and I don’t doubt at all what you are saying about partial throttle under the conditions you mentioned.

            Thanks for the quote on the Porsche stuff, very interesting. :-)

          • y

            Well I only described a “slight downhill” but I think it’d be more efficient to coast in N on any steeper downhill rather than in gear as long you were willing to accept the car speeding and let it make full use of it without braking. If you do start braking, you’d be better off back in gear which would be why Porsches PDKs go straight back into gear when you touch the brake.

            Benz and BMW hybrids also decouple the transmission under coasting but they additionally shut off the engine.

          • Sydlocal

            …or if you are speeding up on that steep hill with foot on the throttle why not change down a gear? Then you can still cut fuel use all together as well as not risking overheating the brakes. Going down hill in neutral is just downright dangerous and puts unnecessary stress/wear on the brakes.

            Also can you tell me how keeping a car in neutral with the engine idling burning fuel to keep it turning over is more efficient on that steeper hill than keeping the car in gear where has cut the fuel flow ie burning no fuel at all?

            You would also find the Benz and BMW hybrids would be still turning a generator/electric motor so you get some free ‘charging’ of the batteries. This would give an engine braking sensation. If they just freewheeled in angel gear they wouldn’t be very good at hybrid technology then wouldn’t they? Why not harness the energy that would otherwise be going to waste?

  • Karl Sass

    At first glance I mistook the Evoke interior for the SV6 because of the bolstering on the seats. A huge improvement inside and great value. I think the Calais V looks the best, especially the rear lights on the sedan. The only 2 disappointments is the Evoke exterior styling and no manual in the wagons. I was speaking to a Holden dealer yesterday and he said VF will be in the dealerships in late June, seems a long time if they’re already running out of VEs?

    • Golfschwein

      Evoke would look nice on 17s, Karl. 16s are the new 13s. I agree that the new seating is a massive improvement.

      • Karl Sass

        You know I was thinking exactly the same thing regarding the 17s. My guess is that fleets don’t want to go any bigger due to replacement tyre costs. The VE Omega seating looks like it has virtually no bolstering. My dad just bought a MY10 sportwagon today as a second car but I can’t make a direct comparison because it has leather seats. I was keen to try it on E85 until I realised that was the MY11 onwards. Oh well, just waiting to see the rest of the VF specs and a review, I’m curious to see the lpg models economy too.

        • Golfschwein

          Yep and, hey, there’s always the options list. If 17s are the only things you tick at order placement, it’s probably a pretty good deal.

          • Karl Sass

            True, I guess the type of customer who cares about 16 inch wheels would be the type to buy the SV6 anyway. Time will tell.

  • Ramjet

    So how much more free advertising is Holden going to get out of this 6 month release of the VF? It will be picked to pieces before anyone gets to buy one!

    • Daniel D

      Two months to go Ramjet. Then we start on Holden Malibu followed by new Mazda 3, followed by 2014 Falcon.

      Tend to find lots of stories about cars on here.

  • gtrxuone

    The Evoke ute will be a big seller for the fleets.Most punters would prefer the Ss ute but the Sv6 is 6 grand cheaper.Ss Sportswagon looks great value.
    Point of interest no Lpg prices listed and what models available in Lpg.

  • MarksmanR

    The pictures of the new orange SSV looks surprisingly good!

    • Golfschwein

      The orange is a dazzler. It’s pure orange, like a navel. Not burnt, not apricottish, not brownish, not reddish…just orange. Like it.

  • Joey

    In 1994, the Calais was more expensive than it is now!

  • ZAP

    I like how Car Magazine’s say “this will be the last rear wheel drive commodore” when GM has a new rear wheel drive platform named “Alpha” which is clearly available ?

    • Shak

      Well all of these rumors are just that at the moment. Rumors. GMH MD has already said work has started on the VF’s replacement, and that it will be riding on a Global GM platform. There have also been comments in the past to the tune that, RWD is the soul of a Commodore, and that if you dont have RWD, then you dont have a Commodore.

      So the fact that GM top brass have al come out and said there will be a second, global line at Elizabeth, producing a car with the Commodore name, and the RWD is essential to any car with the Commodore name…well you join the dots.

  • 2BFrank

    + on road cost ,not as cheap as you think .

    • Chad

      Very true and very sneaky of Holden.

      • Shak

        Whats so sneaky about it? All car marques do this. They all show retail prices initially but when they advertise they have to show driveaway pricing. This is just an indicator for approximate pricing nationwide, as driveaway prices will vary between states. Its basically standard industry practice.

  • Cardiff

    Had sv6 for 3 years went to trade dud price so bought a chrysler 300 instead smacks holden
    Glad I did

  • Oswald O’Bogan

    It’s still a Holden until it approaches a corner where it turns into a shopping trolley.

    I’ll enjoy smoking the Ockermobiles in my 5 yr old AMG- while enjoying the massive depreciation disparity.

  • Darren

    i have tried to get a SSV redline ute for the prices advertised but cannot get near the $50,000 price tag more like $53,000 so who is lying?