2009 Lexus RX new model spied in Australia

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By Paul Maric | February 17th, 2009

Spotted at a service station near Toyota’s Melbourne headquarters, the all new Lexus RX350 has been taped up ahead of its Australian launch.

The new look Lexus RX range will feature the RX350 with carryover, 204kW V6 engine, along with the RX450h which will now use a 3.5-litre V6 engine, opposed to the outgoing 3.3-litre V6.

Needless to say, if you didn’t like the design of the outgoing RX range, you probably won’t like the design of the new RX. They look much the same with minor revisions to the headlights and tail lights.

Inside the cabin though, it seems a central i-Drive style system will be put to use to control the navigation and audio controls (seen by the palm curved object in the centre console).

It seems that the steering wheel controls have also changed, now including an additional menu control button. The RX350 pictured seems to be the Sports Luxury version which will also receive radar cruise control, allowing the driver to maintain a consistent distance between their vehicle and the car in front.

http://skyline The Salesman

It looks like they have carried over the Toyota design language into the Lexus. I wouldn’t pick the difference between this and a Kluger from a distance. Why would you spend the extra money if you are not going to stand out as a Lexus owner?
Dan

Soccer mums will love it!!
Golfschwein

Soccer mums will certainly love it. Luckily, they won’t be too discerning about its looks. If they wake up to the fact it looks crook, they’ll buy a cx7 and save a bundle of dosh at the same time.
Dan

Well, it hasn’t changed much from the previous one, so given that it was a top selling model, this one will be a sales success just like the last one.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Greaaaaaaaaaat,what so new ? What has Toyota whoops Lexus developed for it ?

Soooooooo true Salesman.

Looks like its made from the parts bin of others.

What the hell is the go with the trans shift half way up the center console ?

i-drive……now where did they steal that from ?

So is this an over priced Kluger ? Yup
Wheelnut

If you wanted proof that Toyo-lex are scared of both Hyundai and Mazda…. Have a look at who they’ve copied [yet again] in designing this car.
It’s a straight forward cut and shut job as The front end is off a Hyundai Santa Fe and the reare end off a Mazda
CX-7.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Dan Says:
February 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

Well, it hasn’t changed much from the previous one, so given that it was a top selling model, this one will be a sales success just like the last one.

hahahahahahahaha,based on what ? I think you will find BMW have sold more X5s than this ,and cheaper to maintain too!

Knew that this would get our Lexus lover arking ! Please dont tell me your wife drives one Dan…………..
SteveH

If you can’t pick between this and a Kluger from a distance, maybe think about getting your eyes tested. The back on the Kluger is sqaure, whereas the Lexus has a sloping rear hatch. Also, if it looks the same as the last one, how on earth can it be a Hyundai/Mazda rip off? I also doubt a BMW X5 is cheaper to maintain.
Twilight

well… i really like it.

if i had the money i’d buy one, but in black or dark grey.

nice car.
Falcodore

That thing is fugly inside and out!

The dash looks like its been sittin in the sun and melted in the melbourne heatwave and the rearview mirrors look like they were inspired by pigeon poop! And that rear end just looks ungainly.

Wheelnut, the CX7s rear end looks much better, the whole car looks better than this slop.

Come to think of it, Mazdas look better than anything TOYLexus excrete!
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Ignor Dingo,hes been reported and I emailed the CA guys ……
Bret

Dingo, stop stirring shite.
On the Drivel site your opinions on the Territory are quite different. Clearly your comments are aimed at your “audience”.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

SteveH if you care to watch the latest BMW add on the telly it will tell you it won that award,plus this one last year.

Best Luxury Four-Wheel Drive for 2008 was the BMW X5 3.0d, which also won last year. A score of 753 points (739 for the X5 3.0Si) gave the X5 the advantage over the Audi Q7 TDI (745) and FSI (740), with the Lexus RX400h filling third place with 737 points.
Falcodore

^^You gorgot to add, a far better drive than a TOYLexus
Falcodore

^forgot, oops
RoFlmaTiC

Didn’t like the front of the outgoing model but this one looks much better.
Cupid Stunt

Yuk that thing is Toyota bland, could live with the interior just apart form that shifter position. They ought to shove it inder the rear view mirror which is where toyota drivers generally spend their time looking.
Hi Dingo – chill out dude, no need!!
NotTheStig

Lexus thinks that the height of style is just lashings of fake wood.

It may be a reliable glossed up Toyota but it is soooo dreary.

Aspire to one of these and leave your personality at home before entering the showroom…
NotTheStig

LOL !

I have seen the dashboard in other pics now. It is plain comical when you see it from directly behind as it is all mismatching and curves – awful is the only word I can thing of…
Alex

Well I don’t like it one bit but the thing that I simply can’t get over is all that horrible fake wood! For goodness sake Lexus, stop putting wood in your cars, It’s vile!
I also don’t know why Toyota are being so stupid and sticking with hybrid. Do they not realise that a small electric motor won’t stop oil running out?
Get an X5, ML, Touraeg, Q7, Discovery/RRS but don’t buy a Lexus!
Motorhead

It’s hard to put into words how much I don’t want that car.
Casey

Good Sleuth work CA!

Not a bad looking thing if you’re in to that sort of transport, but not dramatically different from the old either.

I guess as the old saying goes – if you’re on a good thing stick to it.
Neutral

It’s only Toyota can that come out with such boring design. I am surprised how the design department can pass this design and hope that it can compete with the Germans.

One thing I find it strange with Lexus is that how they can come out with the good looking IS at one end and this horrible looking RX at the other end.
Eddy The Expert

Oh its hideous!!!!

*Cough* Pontiac Aztek *Cough*
ScottB

And the tidal wave of bland just keeps rolling on…
Chiko

Why did you blur the backround out? I bet it wasn’t taken at a service station was it? perhaps at those headquaters in Toyota melbourne. hmmmm tresspasing is an offence I’m pretty sure.

Not a bad looking car though,
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Hey Chico maybe the background was more interesting. Only way you can have something look half decent is to have no background.hahaha
Dan

LOL! So many retarded and misinformed comments on here. To be expected of course.

First of all, Lexus from the very beginning of their existence, has never used fake wood in their cars, as opposed to other brands. It is REAL wood. In fact, each car with woodgrain trim contains wood cut from the same tree, so all wood panels within the car match in terms of their ‘marble’ or whatever you call it. I thought I’d better correct you, as you guys always seem to not let the truth get in the way of a good lexus bashing story, as usual.

Wheelnut, if the looks haven’t changed much from previous model, how could they have copied other brand models, when they didn’t even exist beforehand? Again Wheelnut, don’t let the truth get in the way of bullcrap lexus bashing comments hey? And like SteveH has said, I can’t see many similarities between them, so perhaps you should get some glasses Wheelnut? Perhaps if it is so similar to other brands as you claim, given this car has been around for longer (and hasn’t changed much in looks), then perhaps it’s other brands copying Lexus. There you go champ.

Bavaria, it was a top selling model. Based on numbers sold. I see more RX’s out there than X5s, and I live in the area fully populated with rich non working luxury SUV driving soccer mums. They love the RX. So does my missus. I personally am not a fan of any SUV vehicles, but that’s going off topic. I woudln’t say the X5 is cheaper to maintain either. Servicing costs for starters at BMW are much more expensive than at Lexus, and that’s a fact. But hey, again, let’s not let the truth get in the way of a good lexus bashing commentary hey Bavaria?

And Falcodore and others, the fact you don’t like the looks of this car or whatever, really makes no difference, because at the end of the day, you would not be in the position to buy this car in the first place. So essentially, the fact you don’t like it has a care factor of zero. You can now get back to your common ratling falcodore

Personally, I don’t think it’s too bad, not my type of a car. I guess I will make up my mind when I get the launch ceremony invitation. Missus seems to like this new one also, so I guess so will other soccer mums out there, which is really the main market this car is aimed at. Hence my opinion that this car will also be a sales success, like the previous model was.
RoFlmaTiC

“…because at the end of the day, you would not be in the position to buy this car in the first place. So essentially, the fact you don’t like it has a care factor of zero”

SNAP!
Crank

this car is already released in australia! it aint “spy”.

Since i can’t type the url here to prove it. just google:

“pressportal” it’s on the homepage.

personally i like the look of the new model over the old, a decent amount of upgrades. would have preferred a full re-design though.
SteveH

Good comments Dan. Most of the people who jump on the Lexus bashing bandwagon, have never driven one, so have misinformed opinions. As for the ‘bland’ design inside and out, show me an exciting SUV design around nowadays.
Falcodore

If the fact that i dont like it has a care factor of zero then why get upset about it dan. I have as much right as you to comment on these things, if you dont like my opinions then to bad. Dont like bieng in the minority do you Dan.

Whether or not im in a position to buy one is irrelavent, i just wouldnt, theres much better SUVs around than this pile of puke!

P.S What position am i in Dan? Whats my financial status? tell me that.
Dan

Lol. By the sounds of your post I’m not the one getting upset haha. If by ‘minority’ you mean because there are the usual (and vocal) couple of well known Lexus bashers in this thread, then fine, call me a ‘minority’. But ebing the most vocal does not make you a majority mate. And sales data proves it.

I meant something else by ‘position’ but I guess financial can also be a sufficient reason as let’s face it, average Joe doesn’t spend 90K on a car. Judging by your nickname, you drive a falcodore, which would be a fair assumption that you are an average Joe, as average Joe tends to drive a falcodore… But going back to my comment, by ‘position’ I meant that due to your repetive and vocal dislike at this brand of the car, which I’ve noticed for a while now, you wouldn’t buy a lexus anyway, whether good looking or not, so what diference does your opinion make? Bang!

I guess going by that, I wouldn’t buy a pleb taxi falcodore either. Only that I don’t bother making comments about how crappy falcodores are, as there’s no point. Some people like these cars, others like other cars. Some people can only afford certain cars, which automatically makes them the best in their eyes. At the end of the day, who cares. It’s a childish argument. You don’t like it, and you’re not in the position to buy it, then who cares. There’s no need for this car to impress you. Simple.
Falcodore

Have a look at all the people sayin they dont like it, theres more than 2 or 3 so you are in the minority.

Your assumptions are way off there Dan, so maybe you should just do what all Toyota lovers do and just stick to trolling out statistics to satisfy your own egos because at the end of the day its just another ugly, boring Toyota product.Bang!Bang!

P.S. I dont consider myself to be anymore vocal than you or anybody else here, just have a different opinion to you. Life would be boring if we were all the same.
http://caradvice.com.au Alan

Boys, Boys….Chill.

I wonder if they’ve uprated the towing capacity from the previous miserable 1500kg…….but I guess Soccer-Moms don’t tow boats, do they?
Dan

My assumptions are off? So you would buy a Lexus then? And you don’t have a falcodore?

My point about the ‘majority’ that you are referring to, are like yourself, the usual known resident toyo and lexus haters. Hence my comment about how it makes no difference whether this car impresses you or not, as you wouldn’t buy one anyway, and no matter how good or bad it is, you will always have a negative opinion about it. Hence care factor about your opinion is zero. Hope you understand now where I’m getting at.

Nah, soccer mums can hardly drive on their own, let alone tow anything. Personally I’m not a fan of SUV driving soccer mums :\
Falcodore

Half right Dan, i wouldnt buy a Lexus, too much Toyota styling influence in them (RE: boring,ugly) for mine.

As we’ve agreed before, Toyota have nothing inspirational in their lineup, if they did i would be the 1st to say “about time!”

Not the only time we’ve agreed on something Dan, as you’ll find out if you look at the BMW GT concept thread.
Camski

Crank – You might wanna have a look at the date the Pressportal site’s article has and the date that CA’s article was posted =)

As for the RX, well, i’m KIND of glad you lot don’t like it, might pushup the value on my 330 =P
Mark Greenburg

Wow, big deal. I spotted one (also silver) on FLINDERS STREET in the Melbourne CBD about 1 week ago. The badges on the front and back had tape over them but it was obvious what it was. From the front, I had to look twice to make sure I was actually seeing the new model.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Quote “I see more RX’s out there than X5s, and I live in the area fully populated with rich non working luxury SUV driving soccer mums. They love the RX. So does my missus. I personally am not a fan of any SUV vehicles, but that’s going off topic. I woudln’t say the X5 is cheaper to maintain either. Servicing costs for starters at BMW are much more expensive than at Lexus, and that’s a fact. But hey, again, let’s not let the truth get in the way of a good lexus bashing commentary hey Bavaria? ”

Just cause you see more in your area Dan doesnt mean thats the case everywhere……….I could say the same where I live ,my sons previous school where I live,not 1 Lexus in the carpark at pick up time but plenty of euro stuff X5s included .

So you want the truth Dan on maintaining the X5 ? Quote “Wheels magazine “Gold Star Cars” Awards”
Wheels magazine recently conducted an evaluation to determine which cars offered the best value in their respective classes. Wheels Magazine “Gold Star Cars” report assessed nearly 100 cars on criteria such as purchase price, retained value, insurance costs, fuel efficiency, warranty and servicing. Outstandingly, BMW was voted the winner in eight of the ten categories relevant to BMW, claiming victory with the 1 Series, 3 Series, 5 Series, X5 and Z4.

Anything else I can help you with ?

Lexus bashing ……….how ! Seems there arent too many others on this thread too excited bout this either mate.

Oh and for the record Im not too fond of SUVs in the Cities especially around schools,however I DO love the X6.

Oh and heres some more info for you “BMW has been the pioneer of luxury market unitary design Sport Activity Vehicles for more than a decade, with more than 1.3 million BMW X Series vehicles built to date, 243,000 of which were delivered in 2008 alone. Last year, 27 percent of all BMW vehicles sold around the world were fitted with BMW xDrive, also available on 3 and 5 Series derivatives in Europe and the United States, in addition to the X Series.”

Perhaps you could bring up Lexus numbers for me seeing your area has much more than mine !

So shock me Dan “what does your wife drive”????????? Just out of interest
Dan

Can’t be bothered replying to all that, so I’ll get straight to the point:

“1.3 million BMW X Series vehicles built to date”

Sounds sort of impressive I guess… until you see that just in the US alone, Lexus sold 850K RX vehicles in last 8 years, not to mention the rest of the world. Oh snap Bavaria! I think that renders the rest of your comments as rather invalid
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Thats it…………..so typical !

How does that render the rest of my FACTS invalid ?

Run and hide Dan………….Run and Hide !
Dan

LOL! You based your entire long essay of a post on the fact that apparently there was significantly more X5s sold than RX models. In fact you were proven wrong. Hence most of those comments in there are nothing more than an opinion based on no facts, because facts differ to your opinions. Bang! Pwned!
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Arrrrrrrrrr so you looked it up on the ever popular wikipedia.org ! Is that 84,000 only in the states last year ?Seems like there worst since 2002 ! Popular hey !

Still waiting on your proof that Lexus are cheaper to maintain as well!
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Um Dan you still havent proven anything………geez ! Seems your bullets has just shot you in the ARSE mate.
Dan

Bavaria, please use some logic and common sense will you. It’s not hard. This same shape model has been around since back then, so of course sales drop at every models end of life cycle, even beemers! It will pick up back to the record levels when this new model goes on sale, guaranteed!

Still haven’t proven anything? X5 world sales 1.3M. RX US only sales 850K (plus the rest of the world). If that’s not proof enough, then take your blinkers off! The more you post the more you sound ridiculous!
Dan

Oh, and so you know, your favourite X5 was recalled over faulty brake hoses. Oh snap!! Brakes not working? Oh noez! 164000 units recalled. FAIL!

No safety recalls on the RX ever
ZoomZoom

Dan and how much is the rest of the world? 20,000?
You still haven’t proven Bavarian Missile wrong with your 850k vehicles sold. How can you argue about something but at the same time have no idea what your talking about
ZoomZoom

Dan check out this websites: No RX recalled ever ha!
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/lexus/lexus_rx.htm
367594 vehicles affected!
Your facts don’t quite seem like facts anymore!
Dan

“How can you argue about something but at the same time have no idea what your talking about”

What, like you having trouble understanding why you failed in your miserable attempt to compare a 20K car versus an 80K car? Practice what you preach junior… Got your L’s yet?
Dan

Heaps more recalls over here junior:

http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/bmw/x5.htm

So you haven’t even got L plates yet?? Perhaps you are more qualified to be opinionated about pushbikes huh?
ZoomZoom

BTW i don’t know how bad your maths is but all those recalls aren’t as much as 367594
Dan

“BTW i don’t know how bad your maths is but all those recalls aren’t as much as 367594″

I see 3 recalls of the RX, and 11 recalls of the X5. That’s ok, you have english problems, and math problems too by the sounds of it.
Wheelnut

Dan unfortunately I think you could be right about sales of Lexus RXs picking up when this new hideous model is released

Because like it or not 95-98% of Lexus owners are just like the regular Toyota owners in so much as that even though there ARE other cars out there that ARE better equipped with better performance not to mention better looks and better value for money.. They will buy the new RX because just lite their Toyota counterpatrts they are easily bamboozled by all the BS that the marketing department and the dealers tell them – very few of them do their research or even do fair and accurate comaprisons.

Ojh and then theres the fact that the other cars like the X5 are chepaer to insure repair and maintain
Wheelnut

Dan – Lexus may have had 3 recalls compared to BMWs 11 However; the 3 recalls on the RX seruies involved mroe cars [overall] than the X5.. that’s where the 367.594 came from.. If youre a 6 figure accountant surely you would have been able to work that out.
ZoomZoom

“I see 3 recalls of the RX”
Really just the other minute you saw no recalls. You will also notice that it also affected Toyotas as well as Lexus because as much as you hate it their the same. Your just another Toyota driver and your posts show it. Well while I go improve my english and maths as you say, I suggest you get your vision checked and maybe then you will realise that all this time you had a Toyota in the garage.
I rest my case on that point and so go on and waste your time asking me if i have my L’s or maybe next you will ask me whats my favourite colour. You seem to have such a strong fascination about me. It’s really flattering but unfortunately I don’t think to high of you.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

hahaha quote “Bavaria, please use some logic and common sense will you. It’s not hard. This same shape model has been around since back then, so of course sales drop at every models end of life cycle, even beemers! It will pick up back to the record levels when this new model goes on sale, guaranteed!

Still haven’t proven anything? X5 world sales 1.3M. RX US only sales 850K (plus the rest of the world). If that’s not proof enough, then take your blinkers off! The more you post the more you sound ridiculous!

Um did you read BMW sold 243,000 last year !sales drop hey !Geez mate duck and weave as much as you like but your just showing you cant qualify your statement except that Lexus sold 850k in the US……….BFD

Plus the rest of the world ………..aaaaaaaaand what would that be exactly Dan ???????? Seems your trying to recover,more smoke and mirrors to come I think from Dan.

Quote Zoomzoom
“BTW i don’t know how bad your maths is but all those recalls aren’t as much as 367594 ”

Hey Zoom he is meant to be an accountant. ARGHHHHHHHH

I think thats a nervous arse Zoomzoom,being nailed by a woman and school kid as he calls you is a little embarrassing for him.

Come on Dan wheres that evidence on Lexus being cheaper to maintain and that they have made more ? Jeez as everyone says,this looks like the last one .So why would anyone want the same old bland car.

Zoomzoom I feel he has had limited range of cars in his life,I doubt he has ever owned anything other than Toyotas and A Lexus !
Tentacles

May I just add my point of view, Dan, you are a child, grow up. On every post you seem to strive to create an argument. On this one it gets even worse, acting as if you are all high and mighty because you have an IS250, and think you are better than everyone because of this. Hate to burst your bubble here but that is no exotic car, most people could afford one if they really wanted. It is the bottom of the Lexus range, so it is like a 3 series driver talking down to people because of the badge when many people spend much more on a humble VW. So time to get off your high horse and constructively contribute to the forums instead of searching for a chance to argue.
Dan

“even though there ARE other cars out there that ARE better equipped”

At an extra 50K premium… FAIL!

“with better performance”

320i versus IS250… IS250 = better performance, FAIL again wheelnut

“and better value for money.. ”

HAHAHAHAHAHA, Right. It is universally known that any Lexus model presents a better value for money over its competitors, simply because it is like 30K cheaper than competition. What have you been smoking? All car journos will agree with me on that one mate. FAIL!

“very few of them do their research or even do fair and accurate comaprisons.”

Wow, very few sounds like a statistics term. Mind quoting a reference to that? Because for now it’s inadmissible haha. Besides, the fact that Lexus has such high customer retention is a big credit to them, and would be to any other car manufacturer. Using myself as an exaxmple, I checked out all competition before I settled on mine. You FAIL Wheelnut!

“Ojh and then theres the fact that the other cars like the X5 are chepaer to insure repair and maintain”

You know, I did an insurance quote few hours ago out of curiosity, the X5 was 300 bucks more expensive to insure. Also servicing is more expensive at BMW as well. FAIL!
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Yeah Zoom I know he doesnt get his facts straight does he,he once stated that Chrysler owned Mercedes………till Wheelnut put him straight on that.

He is focusing on you Zoom to take the focus of himself being wrong………….simple as that !
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Well Dan Wheels did a survey that proved otherwise. Your opinion is just that.

Insurance…………….depends on where you live your age and your insurer.

I go through Shannons but dont bother ringing them Dan cause you have to prove your a car enthusiast. Not sure if they insure Lexus owners.hahahaha
ZoomZoom

Couldn’t agree with you more there Bavarian Missile.
Dan

“Dan – Lexus may have had 3 recalls compared to BMWs 11 However; the 3 recalls on the RX seruies involved mroe cars [overall] than the X5.. that’s where the 367.594 came from.. If youre a 6 figure accountant surely you would have been able to work that out.”

More were sold, makes sense. The fact that there were only 3 issues wrong is where you should focus, as opposed to 11 with the X5. FAIL!

“You seem to have such a strong fascination about me. It’s really flattering but unfortunately I don’t think to high of you.”

Mate, I’m taking the piss. You don’t drive, hence your opinions are worthless to me, hence I think nothing of you. Hope that explains it.

“Um did you read BMW sold 243,000 last year !sales drop hey !Geez mate duck and weave as much as you like but your just showing you cant qualify your statement except that Lexus sold 850k in the US……….BFD”

Who cares what was last year. Last year’s sales are still part of the tolal number you have given me, which I also compared the X amount of RX’s sold. Hence it makes no difference how much was sold last year, as that is already accounted for in those comparison numbers. And I can’t be bothered looking up how much rest of the world sold. But given US is only one country, there’s still the 80 or so other coutnries where there have been sales at. Denial is a natural thing for you isn’t it?

“Come on Dan wheres that evidence on Lexus being cheaper to maintain”

Simple phonecall to a BMW dealer and Lexus dealer asking for a quote on a 100K service. Or 60K service. Whatever. BMW was much more expensive.

“Zoomzoom I feel he has had limited range of cars in his life,I doubt he has ever owned anything other than Toyotas and A Lexus !”

Ironically, I owned an E46 330ci as a daily before the IS. The bangled look lost me though. I think you have had linited range of cars also Bavaria, your blinkers prove it.

“Hey Zoom he is meant to be an accountant”

What’s the difference between 3 recalls, and 11 recalls? Hmmm… A first grader can work that out…

Tentacles, when did I mention in this thread that I own the IS250? In fact, it’s those muppets here that constantly bring it up, for whatever reason I don’t know.
Wheelnut

You like using yourself as an example quite alot don’t you dan… Its almost as though:

if you didn’t know about it – read about it or hear about it.. then it didn’t happen – can’t happen or it won’t happen.

If it’s not in your garage or your backyard or your living room then its a heap of sh!t

If you didn’t do it – can’t do it or wouldn’t do it..
then it can’t be done or shouldn’t be done… but if you can do it or have done it then everyone else should do it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion… so long as its the same as yours. isn’t that right Dan?

You are but one of the [approx] 21.5m people in Australia. and believe it or not Dan not everyone thinks the same way as you.. that’s what makes us individuals and NOT clones
Dan

“Insurance…………….depends on where you live your age and your insurer.”

LOL! Yes genius. But all factors being the same, ie same location, same age, same insurer, differnt car, I got a differnt quote, in RX’s favour. Would be curious to see what the Wheels mag came up with and how.

“I go through Shannons but dont bother ringing them Dan cause you have to prove your a car enthusiast. Not sure if they insure Lexus owners.hahahaha”

Another FAIL! Both my 180 and IS are with Shannons.
Dan

Wheelnut,

You like using yourself as an example quite alot don’t you… Its almost as though:

if you didn’t know about it – read about it or hear about it.. then it didn’t happen – can’t happen or it won’t happen.

If it’s not in your garage or your backyard or your living room then its a heap of sh!t

If you didn’t do it – can’t do it or wouldn’t do it..
then it can’t be done or shouldn’t be done… but if you can do it or have done it then everyone else should do it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion… so long as its the same as yours. isn’t that right Wheelnut?

You are but one of the [approx] 21.5m people in Australia. and believe it or not Wheelnut, not everyone thinks the same way as you.. that’s what makes us individuals and NOT clones
Wheelnut

Dan – Lexus may have sold more RXs than BMW sold X5s..

However; if their build quality was as “superior” as we are led to believe then only 36 cars should have been effected and not the 367,594 [if that].

It just shows that inorder to be number one Toyota/Lexus are now more focussed on Quantity rather than Quality which is what their reputation was supposedly built on.
Tentacles

Dan, I never said you had talked about your car on this thread, I have seen you talking about it on others though. Regardless of who talks about your car when, you have no justification for talking down to people when you are not so high and mighty yourself, that is all I was trying to get across.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Is that it Dan…………..your best come back ?

You said you were looking at buying a E46 M3 before the IS mate,so if you did have a 330 before hand and thought the rear end lost you why look at the same model,I thought you said before on another post you liked the look of the E46 ? Im confused……….

Once again you are ducking the maintenance issue,your opinion only ,I provided proof from a survey conducted,something Toyo and Lexus drivers hang their hats on normally! You still have shown nothing.

245,000 last year for BMW 84,000 for Lexus in the USA………cant be bothered….pfffttt you cant find them !

Mate Im sure Ive owned more luxury cars and performance cars in my last 25 years of driving than you will. Porsche 911,Mercedes 300CE,6 BMWs,2 FPV GT, 2 XA GTs ,A9X Torana,Brock Commodore,2 early SS Commodores,Volvo V70 2.5 T. There are more but not performance cars or Luxury…Now about those blinkers !
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Here you go Dan a link just for you. Happy reading DUDE.

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/Road_Tests/Gold+Star+Cars+2008.html
Wheelnut

Youre right Tentacles; Dan regularly mentions that he owns a Lexus IS250 and that he is an accountant who earns a 6 figure salary [often without being asked] inorder to justigy himself and make him appear better than the rest of us.

I think its a form of insecurity / inferiority not to mention shows how ego-centric / materialistic people can be

Like some peope keep saying to themselves “I own a Lexus IS250.. I own a lexus IS250.. I own a Lexus IS250″ inorder to TRY and convince/re-assure themseleves that they made he right decision etc so they can feel good about themselves

If you have to keep doing that – then you’ve probably made the wrong decision
ZoomZoom

“Mate, I’m taking the piss. You don’t drive, hence your opinions are worthless to me, hence I think nothing of you. Hope that explains it.”
Whatever. I don’t recall ever saying that I don’t drive. Point is that I do and my opinion seems to be tarnishing the image of your beloved car. It must be hurting now because its the only reason you are posting the crap you say.

Wheelnut:
“I own a Lexus IS250.. I own a lexus IS250.. I own a Lexus IS250″ inorder to TRY and convince/re-assure themseleves that they made he right decision etc so they can feel good about themselves”
LMFAO, so true
SteveH

Just read through the posts and had to laugh. How is Dan any different from you guys paying out on him? He is defending a brand that he obviously likes from the usual bashers that hang around here. I would be curious to know how many people bagging Lexus have actually driven one? And as for Lexus people never bothering to look at other brands as they ‘must have a Lexus’, once again, how is this different from any other brand loyalists out there?

Good on ya Dan for having a crack.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

SteveH,my reply to you is here somewhere,hang on Ill find it.

Quote “SteveH Says:
February 17th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

Quote “I also doubt a BMW X5 is cheaper to maintain.”

Reply “Wheels magazine recently conducted an evaluation to determine which cars offered the best value in their respective classes. Wheels Magazine “Gold Star Cars” report assessed nearly 100 cars on criteria such as purchase price, retained value, insurance costs, fuel efficiency, warranty and servicing. Outstandingly, BMW was voted the winner in eight of the ten categories relevant to BMW, claiming victory with the 1 Series, 3 Series, 5 Series, X5 and Z4.

Why would we drive one Steve,you first have to attracted to a car through looks dont you,havent found one I like yet.

Paying out on Dan………hahaha dont make me laugh,the guy starts a fight on most threads,go read some of his comments on Mazdas Holdens,Hyundais,Kias………
Ezz

Hey Dan…should have already got your launch invite in the mail. I did even though I got rid of the POS IS200 over a year ago.

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http://www.google.com Deags

Bet all of ya can’t afford it. Every free dress day I would come in uniform then I won’t have to pay and by year 12 I would save like 20 dollars mate and then all of you will come to me and say:” Can aye have 20 barks to get a Lexus Arr-Exx three-hundread mate?” and then I would say no because you spent your money on that old VE Commodore Aussie piece of crap and you have noo money. Ha! Ha!
Baji

Woah! Quite a read eh?

New lexus Rx. Doesn’t look too bad, doesn’t look that great either. It’ll probably sell okay. Personally, it doesn’t do it for me. There’s nothing really there that sets it apart from the competition. Thats the problem i have with toyotas and lexus. I don’t love them, but i don’t hate them. They do what they’re supposed to do and thats about it. They don’t really have that something ‘special’. I could roam around the toyota/lexus dealer all day and still walk out with just a ‘meh’. At the end of the day, the RX is still a good SUV, but its really down to personal opinion.

If i were to choose an SUV to ride in as a passenger? I’d take the RX. If i had to drive? Definitely the X5.
http://www.google.com Deags

Bet all of ya can’t afford it. Every free dress day I would come in uniform then I won’t have to pay and by year 12 I would save like 20 dollars mate and then all of you will come to me and say:” Can aye have 20 barks to get a Lexus Arr-Exx three-hundread mate?” and then I would say no because you spent your money on that old VE Commodore Aussie piece of crap and you have noo money. Ha! Ha!
Dan

“It just shows that inorder to be number one Toyota/Lexus are now more focussed on Quantity rather than Quality which is what their reputation was supposedly built on.”

Whatever. You’re entitled to your opinion, even though it’s wrong. So many muppets out there with strong opinions about a cars they’ve never been in. If beemer were so good quality thre wouldn’t be hundreds of thousands of them recalled either would they? SO you are paying more money, for a car with three times more recalls. Fail!

Tentacles, I’ll say it again in case you haven’t read my prior post properly. I mentioned I had one in one of the threads. From then on, other muppets who I won’t name (take a guess) constantly bring it up. One thread I mentioned it. If you reckon there were more, please post links to more than the one thread to prove it.

“You said you were looking at buying a E46 M3 before the IS mate,so if you did have a 330 before hand and thought the rear end lost you why look at the same model,I thought you said before on another post you liked the look of the E46 ? Im confused……….”

Look, seriously get some glasses. No idea what you’re on about. Yes, I’ve had the E46 330ci, which I liked lots. When there was a time to upgrade, all BMW were offering were the current ugly ‘bangled’ ones. E46 M3 isn’t ‘bangled’ is it? But I needed a newer car, so new 3 series BMW was out of the question, as I hate its looks, they look aweful! Does that explain it clearly enough or will you be confused again about it next week?

“Mate Im sure Ive owned more luxury cars and performance cars in my last 25 years of driving than you will.”

LOL! Ok… I find two things funny (and sad at the same time) with this. One. In regards to your 25 years of driving bit. Congratulations, you are nearly 50 and obviously have matured physically… however mentally, I’m not so sure. Coz if you were, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Bling bling yo! Two. you are ‘sure’ that I will not own sweet cars in the next 25 years myself? What are you a prophet? That is one dumb statement you made right there.

“Dan regularly mentions that he owns a Lexus IS250 and that he is an accountant who earns a 6 figure salary [often without being asked]”

LOL! Prove it! Post links to other threads where I have? Only one I mentioned it. Form then on, you guys keep bringing it up, not me. Like in this thread. I have no idea why you would constantly be bringing it up, I guess you are jealous, that’s the only way to explain your fascination with me.

“Whatever. I don’t recall ever saying that I don’t drive.”

Dude, you’re 16. Not even on P plates. You sure drive with an instructor, but that’s not actually driving is it. When you get a clue and experience (and learn to spell), come back junior.

“I got rid of the POS IS200 over a year ago.”

LOL! It indeed was a POS! Slower than anything. And you actually bought one??? Should have bought the 2J bro!

“the guy starts a fight on most threads,go read some of his comments on Mazdas Holdens,Hyundais,Kias……… ”

Haha, just like what you do in Toyota and Lexus articles. Go read some, it’s always you who starts them.

“Good on ya Dan for having a crack.”

Cheers! It’s all fun. Plenty of facepalm moments! There seems to be the same people over and over again, in the whole grand scheme of things, their opinions aren’t worth much on here. It is pathetic though. Constant toyo and lexus bashing. I think they must be very insecure. Each time I see a toyo and lexus article, I know what to expect even before I click on it. Ah well, not everyone can have a life I suppose…
Tim

Bavaria, you are a troll.

Have a good day.
john a

the world according to dan,god help us all
SteveH

I have read the Wheels ratings and don’t see any mention of the Lexus. They musn’t rate the Lexus, but thats their opinion. I will say again that I would think the Lexus would be cheaper to maintain, ie Service costs. Using Wheels’ own rating system, they say that the more frequently a vehicle needs to be serviced, the greater the inconvenience for the owner as they lose time taking the vehicle in and picking it up. Lexus come and collect the vehicle from you, leave a loan car and then drop the car off at the end of the day. Also, to my knowledge, Lexus offer a 4 year warranty, whereas BMW is only three.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Steve theres nothing to say Lexus wasnt judged,the IS250 was in the medium Luxury cars, came 3rd.

Warranty,yeah Hyundais have 5 years.So !

Dan you really need to start to learn when your beaten mate,you stated quote “I think you have had linited range of cars also Bavaria, your blinkers prove it.”

I provide you a list of cars I have had in my life but then you come back with ,

“you are ’sure’ that I will not own sweet cars in the next 25 years myself? What are you a prophet? That is one dumb statement you made right there.”

For a start Im not 50,secondly most of those cars including the Porsche I had before I was 25 , Im guessing your older than 25 ……………Still think Ive had a limited range of car Dan,thought not!

Heres a link that may interest you,see how smart you are!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/CarAdvicecomau/23632716504#/pages/CarAdvicecomau/23632716504
Dan

“Bavaria, you are a troll.”

Agreed!

“Steve theres nothing to say Lexus wasnt judged,the IS250 was in the medium Luxury cars, came 3rd.”

Comparing a low range 3 series versus top of the range IS is a bit skewed don’t you think? In fact, it is so inconsistent, when Wheels compared the 3 series versus the IS in previous occasions (on the same level, not base vs top of the range) the result was in favour of the lex. Apples with apples.

SteveH is correct. It is well known that the Lexus servicing is the best, most easy and hassle free out of all the brands. Free pick up of the car from home or work, they leave you with another complimentary Lexus to use in the meantime, full tank of fuel, use as much as you want. Once finished, they drop off your car back to you and collect their vehicle. 15,000 km / 12 month service increments are a plus also. Not to mention that servicing costs are lower as well. I owned a 330Ci beemer, so I’ve been on both sides of the fence. Lexus absolutely owns beemer int he service dept, as experienced first hand.

“Dan you really need to start to learn when your beaten mate”

LOL! Your lack of maturity shines heaps right there. Almost on par with the 16 year old kid. 45 or 50 yo, same thing. I do genuinely feel sorry for you though, how you need to justify yourself by bragging about cars you’ve owned, as if that automatically makes you less of a troll. Well, you’re wrong, you still are. And by the way, I see all sorts of Porsches going for cheap these days. It’s not like I can’t afford one. I just don’t want one. And you still got blinkers on by the way!

“Heres a link that may interest you,see how smart you are!”

Car Advice facebook page??? I can’t see any IQ tests on there, what are you on about??
Dan

“ZoomZoom -> “petafile”?? Seriously, were you attempting to call someone a pedophile in a debate about cars? Ok, two things: a) how old are you? and b) learn to spell. Its rally not that hard or scary. Hell, buy a dictionary! ”

He’s a 16 year old very immature kid who is on L’s at the moment (he confirmed that a week ago), who happens to be very opinionated about things he has no idea about, bascailly. I just ignore his comments, but sometimes it’s just hard not to laugh at him.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Tim has been reported for the name calling Dan and seems when your agitated you do the same,what was that about maturity?
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Yeah sure you are Dan,your sitting there wondering how did she get a New 911 when she was 21 ?hahaha

You dont like Wheels results cause there not the ones you wanted,once again just for you “BMW was voted the winner in eight of the ten categories relevant to BMW,”

Report assessed nearly 100 cars on criteria such as purchase price, retained value, insurance costs, fuel efficiency, warranty and servicing .

How many did Lexus win ?
SteveH

Just interested when they calculate the retained value on BMW’s, do they take into account the exorbitant option costs? I would be interested to see the retained value on a BMW with no options whatsoever. (Do they exist???) Also, hanging your hat on a Wheels test is no great thing. Didn’t they award car of the year to the Holden Camira and Mitsubihi Nimbus at some stage?
Dan

LOL! SteveH is right. It’s not like Wheels have got it right all the time. Didn’t they also award the VN a COTY back in the day? They even praised the good old EA as an excellent car also. But yes, the Camira example was a classic. Wheels also did a comparison test not so long ago, and judging the same criteria, the lex won. Based on those, their opinion is rather questionable, and not consistent either. But hey, if you want to believe in fairies, go ahead Bavaria.

Bavaria, I can also claim I got a brand new Porsche for my 18th birthday. But I can’t be bothered. So there. If you think I’m in any way jealous of your immature and unrealistic bragging, where I really couldn’t care less if you also had a pony when you were 10, then I’m sorry to disappoint you but I am not in any way impressed (does the term ‘facepalm’ mean anything to you?), but you are making yourself look more and more ridiculous with every new post.
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

quote “john a Says:
February 19th, 2009 at 1:13 am

the world according to dan,god help us all

Absolutely!
Dan

LOL! Are you out of pointless come backs? Or are you also going to mention you have also bought a learjet at the age of 22 Bavaria? Because, we are so impressed with your ‘credible achievements’ you know…
Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Dan ,Ill be a lady and let you have the last word cause it seems you cant stop !hahahaha
Dan

Finally, job’s done.

Back on topic, just to recap. Car looks great. Lot’s of soccer mums (the target market) will love it. It will be a sales success like the previous one.
ScottB

*grin* Nope, car looks like crap, like something that melted in a microwave.

But I agree with you on the sales point. It will sell well. Its a conservative looking car for a conservative market and there are large numbers of people out there that have a burning need to buy an SUV despite the fact that an actual car would serve their needs better.

Besides, there’s no shortage of cashed-up twits with their taste up their arse. ;-D
Dan

“there are large numbers of people out there that have a burning need to buy an SUV despite the fact that an actual car would serve their needs better.”

I both agree and disagree with you there. There’s large amount of twits who buy these cars for no other reason than to have an SUV but not going off road. Some aren’t even designed to go off road, like the 2WD territory. Then there’s people who have a family and need the space, where a sedan or station wagon would not do the job as well as an SUV would. They also feel more secure in an SUV, which can be debatable though.
http://www.google.com Deags

Hey, I have perfect spelling and I’m doing a 3-year VCE, unlike you uneducated Aussie bogan. And also, stop buying Australian cars, start buying imports.