Comments on: ESP celebrates 15 years

By: Frontman

Frontman — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:16:03 +0000

Horse I hear understand your concerns, but if the system has been tuned correctly as a person who can drive properly “road conditions” you should never actually feel the nanny noose tighten. If you read my comments in one of the FOrd tests on CA about them saying the system reacted too late compared to the Holden system I stated exactly that. It is set up to let drivers play, but catch if you do over cook it.

By: WVB

WVB — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:16:20 +0000

Ahhh, ESP, developed to keep PS3/xbox gamers alive in the real world.
But now that we have it, it’s here to stay because like a using crutch with a broken leg, people soon won’t be able to handle a car without it.

I believe if manufacturers have some sort of mandate to pick up ‘filtered down’ old ‘S class’ technologies (airbags, ABS, radar cruise, cyl cut technology etc) then ongoing compulsory driver education should also be mandated these days aswell.

As for the ESP off button, legislation will probably come in stating the hazard lights come on when the ESP is off!!!!!!!

By: Casey

Casey — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:27:43 +0000

As enthusiasts we enjoy and understand what it means to turn ESP off, which is all well and good when the situation allows, but for the majority of poorly skilled, under-trained, A to B type drivers ESP is a necessity as far as I see it.

I agree with the article, and some other readers, ESP should be included standard on all cars, but just leave the switch on the dash for the rest of us

By: Fasthonda

Fasthonda — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:28:52 +0000

Alex said:
“……… However, I do believe that every car that has it should have a button to turn it off.”
I agree.Some cars however,do have an off button but the ESP re-activates when a certain speed is reached.
On my car,the ESP can be switched off and only comes back on if I push the button or if I have re-started the car.

By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:53:19 +0000

I know where Horse is coming from though,some of today’s gadgets are nanny controls,some however are life saving.Im sure thats all he meant by it.

By: The Salesman

The Salesman — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:49:28 +0000

Horse,
So when you are behind the wheel you car brake wheels individually, take power away from a wheel that is spinning and transfer it to a wheel that has traction, etc, all in less than a second. WOW. I wonder what it would cost to train every driver on the road to be as good as you.
This system saves lives. I have personally experienced it in action on the Mt Cotton driver training circuit and on the skid pan and I can tell you it is nothing short of amazing.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:26:57 +0000

Horse, that’s silly. I would be very surprised if you were younger than sixty.

ESP could be the best thing on a car since the starter motor. It is just a fantastic piece of technology. However, I do believe that every car that has it should have a button to turn it off.

By: Howie-VL

Howie-VL — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:15:17 +0000

Mitch while I know what you mean, I agree with Horse. I prefer having full feeling of the car. But I suppose most vehicles now have a button so you can turn it all off for when you want to have fun in your car, and just turn it back on for regular street use.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:38:59 +0000

I hate it when people think they are better than a computer that does thousands of calculations a second

By: Horse

Horse — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:21:06 +0000

I hate ABS ESP and Traction Controll
I would rather learn to drive.