(Imagine tubes bout an Inch or so wide, long enough with a fan inside it fitted through the grill)

Would that be feasible??

Expert Cupid? Ex sounds like a “has been” and spert is a drip under pressure

I’d buy one tomorrow too, just to ensure Opec build less gold palaces with their oil revenue!!

Who knows, 30 years from now the volt will probably be fart powered. Behold the bio-volt, gets 100kms out of a single curry…fantastic!

Yes, green energy will cost money, people need to be prepared to fork out more, however they are not. And that’s the problem.

Hydrogen is here, but the most popular form of propulsion using hydrogen is converting the Hydrogen to electricity via reverse electrolysis. So basically your electric battery is replaced with a hydrogen tank & fuel cell. Or in some cases water tank & fuel cell. In both cases the wheels are driven by an electric motor.

There are alternatives like directly burning the hydgrogen in a combustion engine (I think the BMW H7 does this) but its less efficient and has more moving parts.

So developing the electric car forms the foundation for your hydrogen fuel cell car.

Green energy is never going to be simple, but we need to start somewhere. And my point still stands about investment. If Origin are to be believed the average house consumes 15Kwh per day. In Victoria that could be completely offset via a 3.5Kw PV Solar array. Costing about 35K, this cost goes down the further north you go because the array can be smaller. Imagine if just new homes alone done this, the impact would be sizeable. Why don’t we?? Cost simple, hence my point of Investment. And now the government has means tested the rebait because too many people were buying solar. How retarded is that.

I don’t understand, why is that? Hydrogen technology is already there, mostly/fully developed. All that is missing is the easy and economical way of exctracting and supplying hydrogen, and the infrastructure. Perth did a short trial with hydrogen public buses a while ago. The company I work for actually supplied the hydrogen for the trial (a bi product from one of our coal carbonizing projects). It worked fine, other than the extra costs involved with maintenance etc. which would obviously be less if the technology was more widespread. Electric cars are a waste of time compared to the hydrogen vehicles. They have a shorter range, are slower, and are less practical. I would rather be able to travel 1000 kays in my hydrogen car, and stopping to refuel with hydrogen in a matter of minutes, than only able to travel 100 kays, and wait 12 hours to recharge. And since all that electric and hydrogen cars need to be economically (and environmentally) viable is clean renewable power, once you accomplish that, hydrogen is a more logical choice.

“All this in a country which gets so much free energy. The problem is not the technology its the will and investment.”

It’s not as simple. Renewable energy is actually a lot more expensive than coal and others. Unfortunately the way the market is at the moment, people do not want to pay triple or quadruple more for electricity. With the way green technology is at the moment, it costs a lot to implement. My company has built a windfarm not so long ago. It’s a similar issue to when you build hybrid vehicles. THose turbines have a useful life of 25 years, after which they need to be replaced. Believe it or not, for the amount of power they produce in their life time, large portion will cover the initial power needed to produce them in the first place. There is not enough efficiency in green power production at the moment, to make it economically viable for it to produce 100% of our electricity supplies. The energy is there, but we cannot capture it economically enough as yet unfortunately.

“To all the nay-sayers like Dan, you do realise that most power utility companies offer green electricity for purchase. Some even offer 100% green.”

Mate, I work for one. We offer ’100% environmentally friendly’ electricity as an option, out of the windfarm. But we also have two coal fired power stations. I’ll probably be repeating what I wrote above, but coal power is actually cheaper. The ones who offer 100% green, are the ones who only have a windfarm or tidal or whatever plant, which mind you, don’t operate 24/7 due to varying weather conditions. What’s ironic is that, all that power is mixed into the grid anyway, but you just pay bills to your provider, and the provider buys any deficient electricity from other providers if necessary. Don’t believe you are always getting 100% green power mate

Think about it, if it was as easy and as viable as just chucking a few windfarms and solar panels all over the place and get away from coal and gas, it would have been done by now. Lots of work still needs to be done unfortunately.