gREAT car, not many on the road, autobox crap and weak, but only slightly chipped to 445bhp

fast enough…total posers car…but cant see the sense in the LS3 with some sticky strips…however i;ll go to the paint shop and for about 200 quid get strips put on mine..

thanx aussie for a blindin car though…ps, get a parking sensor fitted to the front..it works great interfering with police lidar 20/20 speed guns

Can you also get the bathurst and Vaxhaul badges from Walkinshaw? No… thought so!!

So it ain’t the same..

Its in the subtle ommisions of information and quotes such as “In a move that will no doubt cause some controversy here in Australia” and “it’s difficult to understand why Australians weren’t offered a similar package” the writer is quite clearly trying to get an emotive based response to this article.

Look back over the many articles in car advice, the articles that get the most comments are negative news stories against Holden, Ford and Toyota. The more comments the more people coming back again and again to view the site… advertising.

I agree there is no particular brand bias at Car Advice, they are just clever, they know how to get hits, that is 100% what this article was designed to do, Car Advice i’m quite sure won’t deny this. If you read my original post, I had no particular gripe with the article, I just wanted to point out that you can get a car of this exact specification in Australia, which is true whether its an officially sanctioned product or not. I only got “heated” when George danced his way around the subject as much as possible rather then just accepting yes you can get the car here, and yes you CAN ORDER ONE THROUGH A HSV DEALER! If George didn’t jump up and down trying to defend what is basically a minor point anyway, there would have been no argument. All he had to say was “You can get a car exactly like this in Australia, just it isn’t covered by HSV’s full factory warranty”. Instead he decided to go on and on and on and on about through the comments which really made himself look distinctly unprofessional if nothing else. Also plain wrong, he said Walkinshaw has a “stake” in both companies but nothing more, which is completely wrong because Walkinshaw’s holding company owns both brands entirely. They are as much the same entitiy as Big W and Woolworths, Coles and Kmart, etc

Again, how naive do you want to be?

The fact you keep on about this stupid idea you have got yourself fixated on makes me wonder you need help.

Even in the face of numerous people disagreeing with you, you still can’t accept you’re just plain wrong.

CA and George for that matter, have shown NO brand bias that I have seen, nor was it even remotely evident in this article that he was trying to create “Drama” as you put it.

Time to grow up now and move on…

Also theres no need to be a wanker and pick up on a minor typo and be all sarcastic about it, i mean really you just made yourself look a lot more stupid then my typo made me…

would you like to tell the audience which particular hdt commodore’s YOU THINK are ugly??? maybe you have a bit of anti holden/hsv about you after all…

If you don’t agree with what CA’s written, don’t come to the site. Actually it might be easier if CA just doesn’t review holdens. Then all the Cubs would be putting in their two cents all the time and trying to justify why anyone would spend good money on a glorified commodore.

Yet in the article CA did about the 415kw twin turbo VE built by APS they told CA readers that its a really easy and cost effective way to enter the 400Kw+ club – they didn’t seem to care about voided warranties in that story.

George you don’t have to recommend people have the enhancements done to their car but you should at least have told them that it is possible to have them done by a performance workshop that is recognised by HSV – just as Brabus is by Merc-Benz

Afterall the site is called Car ADVICE is it not..? you can tell people about something however whether or not they follow that advice is up to them

Richo – Its not that we won\’t win this HSV-WP arguement it\’s more like we\’re not allowed to..

Walkinshaw Prefomance in the UK have been fitting Super Chargers to the VXR8 for a long time now.

I get everything you are saying, you can get the same specced vehicle here in Aus through HSV and their referral agreement with WP.

It is NOT, however, a Factory Bathurst Model, no matter which way you spin it.

Simply buying an XY Falcon and then buying all the bits to make it the same as a GTHO does not make it a GTHO. I’m sure you get this.

Same goes here, except the car is new. The GTS 40th edition is a limited run waste of time, and maybe, if this car wouldn’t steal sales from the overpriced W427, the Bathurst Model should have been OUR GTS 40th Anniversary Edition.

No semantics, No bitching, no nothing. This vehicle, no matter how many COPIES you make, IS NOT available in Australia. Oh, and the stupid little badge is what so many people pay all that money for – it’s called exclusivity…

Sorry, but I enjoy this site and the posts normally, but this one just s**t me enough to have a say.

And before you say it, I dont know George or anyone on the CA team, I just think you’re wrong.

I am going to recap everything for you.

YES, you can order these parts from WP and produce something similar to the Bathurst Edition model.
NO, in reference to your first comment – this does not mean the car is available in Australia.
YES, the vehicle can be shipped directly to WP for these or similar performance parts.
NO, these parts are not sold or provided by HSV, they merely refer customers to WP in an agreement as they are partly owned by the same individual.
YES, you can send a new HSV to ANY aftermarket performance shop straight from the factory – I can confirm this from personal experience.
NO, any WP modifications are not covered by a factory warranty just like any other aftermarket shop.
YES, Tom Walkinshaw has a stake in both HSV and WP.
NO, WP and HSV are not the same entity – Tom Walkinshaw is merely a common stakeholder.
NO, it is not appropriate to recommend readers option WP parts onto their vehicles in order to reproduce the Bathurst since it would void their factory new car warranty.
YES, it is appropriate to question why a similar model isn’t offered in Australia considering the similarities with the dissappointing 40th GTS and obvious price gap.
YES, HDT Commodores – as ugly as they may be – are sold as new in Australia through a third party firm, similar to TechArt and Brabus.

Any other questions?

next your going to be saying that HDT Brock commodores where not available in Australia because the work wasn’t done by Holden rather it was done by Brock in a seperate facility and by a company not directly owned by Holden

And your just wrong anyway, because you CAN go to a HSV dealer and order a car to that exact specification. You just can, i don’t understand why you cant just admit this.

Yes you can take a second hand HSV to a walkinshaw performance centre and get the work done there as well, but you can also have the work done before the car is even delivered to the HSV dealership which is delivering it to you.

This is not assumptiong, its fact, i don’t understand why your trying so hard to say that Wheelnut and I are wrong.. frankly i dont understand why your even on here arguing, you’ve got your website hits, all your doing now is reducing the credibility of your employer…