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2009 Mazda RX-8 Review

By Paul Maric |

Mazda RX-8 Review & Road Test

A facelift hasn’t changed one of the neatest packages on the sports car market.

Model Tested:

  • 2009 Mazda RX-8 Luxury six-speed automatic – $55,520

Options:

  • Automatic gearbox $1645;

plus.jpg Design; handling; engine note; pricing; brakes.
minus.jpg Snap oversteer; missing some features; fuel consumption.

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- by Paul Maric


One of the most iconic cars in sport car history, the Mazda RX-8, has received a minor facelift.

Mazda had previously sold more than 165,000 RX-8s, and wanted to keep the same formula, so the facelift was restricted to modifying the headlights and tail lights, along with the front and rear bumpers.

I was meant to be driving the six-speed manual GT version, but was instead put into the six-speed automatic Luxury version. I was a bit disappointed at first, considering the automatic has 12 kilowatts less of power, but nevertheless, I trucked on, prepared to give the automatic RX-8 a chance.

One of the key things about the RX-8 is that it’s not a car built just for performance and handling, it’s an all-round package. When you open the driver’s door the optional red leather really jumps at you, and it looks quite stunning.

Mazda RX-8 Luxury

The driving position is very low-slung and the feeling of the dashboard is one of confidence and robustness. The suicide doors open in opposite directions to save space – while also looking cool when loading and unloading passengers.

Further to the driving position, it mimics that of a go-kart, hugging the ground for the ultimate centre of gravity reduction and increase in driving feel. I felt as though the steering wheel could move a bit higher, due to the somewhat cramped leg space on the driver’s side, my thigh would constantly rub against the bottom of the steering wheel.

Most of the fun begins when driving though. When you turn the engine over, a characteristic rotary whine can be heard from both inside and outside the cabin. The whine sounds like an old-school supercharged V8 starting up, as if oodles of effort needs to go into turning the twin-rotor engine over.

Mazda RX-8 Luxury

Instantly noticeable is the light, but not overly light, steering at low speeds. It’s only when you start picking up pace that you get a real feel for the car. The light steering at low speeds helps with parking and manoeuvring the car in tight spaces, the tight turning circle also helps immensely.

Anyone who has driven a rotary knows that there isn’t much torque without a turbo. Most people would assume that just 211Nm would be a deal-breaker, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Once above 3000rpm, the 158kW, 1.3-litre RENESIS motor starts singing. The engine note is superb and the higher it revs, the punchier it becomes. Keeping the revs high in the rev range returns sharp throttle response and on demand power out of corners.

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I was initially dreading the automatic gearbox, but it’s one of the best on offer in a sports car. The shifts are flawless and the steering wheel paddle shifters are perfectly placed.

Rev limiter beeps tell you it’s time to upshift and unlike some other automatic equipped sports cars, the RX-8 is happy to downshift high into the preceding gear’s rev band.

The RX-8 also can’t be faulted when cornering. The chassis is incredibly rigid, the tyres extremely grippy and the power delivery superb. The lack of body roll means that you can fly into a corner with speed, knowing the car won’t shift under pressure and begin feeling heavy and uncontrollable.

The limits of the car’s grip seem endless. The lack of power also means that you can confidently slam down the throttle on the corner’s exit without the fear of oversteer.

Mazda RX-8 Luxury

Communication through the steering wheel is very good mid corner. Bumps in the road are felt through the chassis and steering wheel, lending to the car’s impressive design. The brakes held up a hefty torture test down a mountain, pedal feel is also constant and proportional with each application – even when the brakes start warming up.

The stability control doesn’t come into effect unless you start getting overly silly, which is good news for punters after a thrilling ride with no intrusions. But, switch off stability control and the RX-8 breaks into snap oversteer when intentionally pushed.

The RX-8 is the type of car which handles and is composed when within grip limitations, but becomes touchy and quite aggressive when the limits are breached.

Fuel consumption varies greatly depending upon how much throttle you use. Expect combined fuel use to sit around 12.1 litres per 100km. It seems like a lot for a small capacity engine, but it’s not too easy to drive under 3000rpm.

Mazda RX-8 Luxury

Rear passenger leg room is quite limited – as you would expect in a car this size. But, I believe the rear seats are really there as an excuse for suicide doors. They look great when you’re tasked with moving people in and out of the cabin and give the car the coupe look with four door versatility.

I was a bit disappointed with the Bose sound system. It lacks bass and needs a sub-woofer to get the bass portion amplified.

The stereo is easy to use though, as are the climate controls. But there is a distinct lack of dual-zone climate control, along with automatic headlights and automatic windscreen wipers, which have become the norm in many cheaper cars on the market.

The RX-8 is available in three models, RX-8, RX-8 Luxury and RX-8 GT. They are priced at $49,720, $55,520 and $57,625 respectively.

Mazda RX-8 Luxury

The six-speed automatic gearbox is only available on the Luxury model as a $1645 option.
Although parking is a bit touch and go with the lack of parking sensors, the RX-8 really is a superb package.

It delivers when thrown through a few bends, likewise when putting around the city to take care of shopping. It’s one of those cars which isn’t built for straight line speed, it’s built for continuous thrills when lashed through corner after corner.

The Mazda RX-8 really is one of the best sports cars in this segment. The reliability of a Mazda, along with flowing design lines and a ripper engine note make this low-key car a highly desirable apex slayer.

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Mazda RX-8 Specifications:

  • Engine: 1,308cc Wankel rotary
  • Power: 158kW @ 7500rpm
  • Torque: 211Nm @ 5500rpm
  • Induction: Naturally aspirated
  • Transmission: Six-speed automatic
  • Differential/Driven Wheels: Rear wheel drive
  • Brakes: 323mm/302mm front/rear
  • Top Speed: N/A
  • 0-100km/h: 6.4s (manual)
  • 0-400m: N/A
  • CO2 Emissions: 289g/km
  • Fuel Consumption: 12.1-litres/100km (claimed)
  • Fuel Tank Capacity: 65-litres
  • Fuel Type: 98RON petrol
  • ANCAP Rating: N/A
  • Airbags: Six
  • Safety: ABS brakes with EBD, BA and ESP.
  • Spare Wheel: 125/70D15 space saver
  • Tow Capacity: N/A
  • Turning Circle: 10.6-metres
  • Warranty: Three-years
  • Weight: 1412kg
  • Wheels: 18-inch alloys with 225/40R18 tyres

 
  • Adam

    To me, this car is a bit of a dinosaur. I can’t really see why they would wan’t to persist with this engine.

    Who wants to be constantly over 3000rpm?? Sure it’s fine if you wan’t to give it a thrash, but completely impractical for the majority of daily driving.

    Would rather Mazda somehow work out a rear wheel drive set up for the 2.3 turbo that is used in the MPS, which has stacks more power and torque without the fuel burden.

    • Colhard

      I’ve had a MPS 3, MPS 6, CX7 Turbo and currently own a 6 Speed RX8. You’re dreaming if you think the 2.3 Turbo is more economical. Sounds like the girls commenting on here have no real experience with any of these cars

  • Jimbo

    Adam, I agree 100%. You said exactly what I wanted to say.
    And the RWD+MPS engine is a great idea!

    Also its just personal preference but I had to stifle a yawn reading about this car, not because of writing its just not an exciting car anymore.

  • zahmad

    Agree with Adam as well here…

  • Acfsambo

    People, i think the reason they are sticking with the RENISIS engine is that Mazda already hav a RWD sports car (MX-5) as well as the fact that it is the only rotary sports car on the market. Though i do agree they should turbocharge it or give it a 3-rotor or 4-rotor rotary engine.

  • FRUGAL_ONE

    The good thing about the RX8 it makes the 350 and now 370Z look so bloody good [which it is]

    RX8// U need to top up the oil every 1000km, no torque, needs PULP, expensive to service, expensive to insure etc etc, not a sports-car, poor performance really.

    New model X16 cannot come out soon enough, all the above should/could be solved?

    4 door and rear leg room is good though

    Cheers

    F-0

    • Colhard

      You’re on drugs! RX8 is one of the most inexpensive cars i’ve ever had to service. Ever replaced a dodgy timing chain tensioner on a Rotary? or a Cambelt? Leaking Injectors? Ever needed to adjust rockers? Valve timing?

      I do agree the RX8 would benefit by more power and torque. But, really? make a 350Z look good?! Dream on! RX8 handles better, stops better, is more practical (get four people in a 350z! – let alone luggage), spec is better and the build quality of the RX8 is far superior. The Z has more plastic than Wildenstien and more rattles than a pre-school

  • FRUGAL_ONE

    Seeing your on the Mazda theme, how about a bit of a test/review on say something kinda like similar to made by Mazda CX7? :-)

    Its coming out in diesel i hear.

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Tom

    Yep, the 2.3 out of the next MPS would be brilliant in this car

    But its styling is starting to look old now, nice try with the na rotor mazda, but its just past its time.

    • Colhard

      Yep, would go good – but the 2.3 has the personality of a gumboot

  • Nath

    I had a bit fo a drive of one of these and HATED it.

  • Tim

    F-O, you sound like a bloody broken record already with the CX-7 nagging :D

    On topic though, the RX-8 is a nice car. I have been looking at a few used ones, and they are impressive. Its unique on the roads and looks unbelievable IMO!

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  • FRUGAL_ONE

    TIM^^

    Just imagain after C/A tests/reviews the CX7, i will have nothing to hag about…..*groan* [tm.PP]

    Like somebody else said, RX8 is well past its use by date, i laugh when i see 2nd hand ones for $50k plus LOL

    I suppose we can all dream!!

    PASS

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Mega

    I agree with Adam. A measly 158kw Rotary with uses 12.L/100km of 98ron, burns excessive oil and has no torque. Why bother?

    The 2.3L turbo from the MPS, tuned up a little bit (e.g. 200kw), would give this car a much harder kick. Possibly a 0-100kmh time under 6s (Mazda 3 MPS – 6.1s). With better fuel economy from cheaper 95ron fuel.

    And it would save R&D on the defunct Rotary.

    • Colhard

      Hmmm, I can see why you’d be unimpressed. The rest of the world gets about 180kw and 9,000rpm. Sounds like you get the poo spec model. The first autos were even worse (140 something KW) I average 11.9 l/100km on 95 in my HO version

  • http://caradvice.com.au OSU811

    having driven a manual rx8, they are a great handling, smooth quiet and comfortable car, but just lack the power/ torque to be a proper sports car..

  • Jake02

    i always liked the RX-8, right until the facelift arrived. The original Luxury in yellow (like on the cover of the Wheels COTY 2003 issue) really was an icon for me but this facelift is so fussy and unecessary – the first one was was simple but the lights now are annoyingly shaped. its a facelift for facelift’s sake. Also, Australian versions are very low-rent and expensive. No sat-nav, electric folding mirrors, hi-power version! If they make one, hopefully the next RX-8 will be just like the original – fantastic!

  • Frontman

    Hmmm not a good sports car…….. but a damn fine low cost GT (Gran Tourer for the young ones). Can hapily eat miles at a resonable clip in safety and give the owner just that little bit of individuality which is missing from so many other “Performance/ Premium” cars today. Seems a lot of people have lost the passion for being different.

  • Fasthonda

    Frontman said:”……….give the owner just that little bit of individuality which is missing from so many other “Performance/ Premium” cars today. Seems a lot of people have lost the passion for being different.”

    I agree with your observation.
    I’m not a fan of the RX-8 but I am a little puzzled some people want to see the MPS3 Mazda engine in the RX-8.
    The RX-8 has been developed from the ground up as a sports car,albeit not a powerful one.The Mazda 3 is a small family car -it won’t have the dynamics of it’s larger rotary engine brother.
    There is nothing special about the 2.3 L turbo.Where would the uniqueness of the RX-8 be with a run-of-the mill engine?I realise that the 2.3L would have more torque & power,but Mazda’s top of the line sports car would need an engine more substantial than the one from it’s little brother.

  • Mega

    Fasthonda^^

    While I agree there is something distinctly unique about a rotary, there may not be much space in the future market for this sort of niche product. Look at the S2000 – unique ultra high revving four pot, and Honda decided to phase it out.

    Now to most people constrained on a budget, an engine is an engine. If you could have a cheaper, torqey & more powerful engine with better emissions (e.g. the 2.3l turbo), why ever not? Its a sportscar after all.

    Unfortunately it is impractical to be a purist. It just seems to me that Mazda have missed an excellent opportunity to cut on costs and make a better car in the process.

  • http://ozmazdaclub.com Ozmazdaclub

    The RX8 is a great car and you have to understand and enjoy the motor for what it is…..rotaries were always a motor that needed to be revved and its like having a two stroke under the bonnet but with the new 16x rotor that Mazda are working on for the new RX8 in 2010 this should lift the power/torque and reduce the fuel economy….yes its down on power as for what it replaced the twin turbo RX7 which was a rocket….but then they got to $80k and the sales dropped dramaticly. Mazda have a nisch market with the rotary and only previous owners would appreciate and understand and love them for what they are…….long live the RX8 and Mazda unique motor the Rotary.

    • Colhard

      The version we get in NZ has more power than the twin turbo RX7

  • Devil’s Advocate

    Fast Honda says: “There is nothing special about the 2.3 L turbo.”

    Nothing special about the L3 Turbo? I would call being one of the first mass produced, mainstream direct injection turbo engines in the world special. Plus it has been in Wards top ten engines in 2006-8.

    I would also like to know why some are complaining about the oil consumption? IT IS A ROTARY, they do it by design to assist with lubrication and sealing etc. As has been mentioned, many people buy rotaries for the experience of owning one. They are something different and quirky and are not for everyone. For the people who like them, they are rewarded with something unique in the automotive world, including uncanny smoothness and an ability to effortlessly rev to the stratosphere. How is it any different to anyone owning a hot-rod or the like?

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  • Devil’s Advocate

    FastHonda says: \”There is nothing special about the 2.3 L turbo.\”

    Nothing special about the Mazda L3 Turbo? I would call being one of the first mass produced, mainstream direct injection turbo petrol engines released in the world special. Plus it has been in Wards 10 best engines from release in 2006 to 2008.

    I would also like to know why there are so many people complaining about oil consumption. IT IS A ROTARY, they burn oil by design for lubrication and sealing etc. As mentioned, people buy rotaries for the experience of owning one. They are different and quirky and are not for everyone. People who like them are rewarded with a unique motoring experience unmatched in the automotive world. This includes uncanny smoothness and the ability to effortlessly rev to the stratosphere. Sure they require a little more TLC than a conventional modern engine, but how is it any different to someone with a hot rod or the like?

    • Colhard

      The Nissan Maxima VQ V6 was in Ward’s for over 10 years. It’s a great engine. Great doesn’t mean sporty. Mazda’s 2.3 is great in the right application but it does not feel sporty

  • Falcodore

    As the article says, the RX8 isnt about pure power. Mazda knows that 0-100 times arent that important in the real world, its about how the car flows from corner to corner (MX5,RX8) and ‘in gear’ acceleration (3MPS).For example, the MPS will do 80-120 in 3 secs which is great for overtaking. Much more important in the real world as far as i’m concerned.

  • Falcodore

    ^^Great for when you come across those slow, dumb Toyota drivers that always seem to be in the way. ;)

  • RotarMac

    Devil’s Advocate bzzzzzzz wrong! VW beat Mazda to it many years before with their dirct injection 2.0L turbo.

    Which ever way you want to look at it the RX8 is just way to slow in a straight line for a sports car. It needs power not only for the strights but to punch ourof tight corners in higher gears. That’s rewarding.

    The rotary is a great engine. Yes they burn oil but so do diesels lol. Seriously though what Mazda needs to do is turbo charge this engine. That’s the missing ingrediant. Intant 300HP and lots more usable tourque in a coupe weighing around 1300-1350kg would make an awesome package. Unless they go some masive quad rotor like in their old LeMans racers then small capacity N/A rotors just dont produce enough mumbo.

    But how good is the actual rotary for racing? Well Mazda is still the onnly Japanese manufacturer to have won LeMans 24 hours race outright in 1991 with it’s N/A (that’s right turbo) Quad Rotor 787B race car. The following year rotaries were band from racing in the LeMans 24. Ask Mofat how fast the old turbo RX-7 was. The touring car authorities of the day would weight penalty the RX-7 because it was unbeatable during the touring car season leading up to Bathurst. Just like they did to the GT-R’s later on before banning them too. I once heard an interview where Mofat took the car overseas for some big race and he blitzed them. He was ask wow what did you do to the car since it was Racing in Aus and he said nothing, it’s amazing what 40Kg of penalty weight does.
    Then look at all the fastest street cars in the country over the 1/4 (still running full chassis and untubbed) all rotaries.

    The only problem rotaries have is reliabilityh when pushing massive power. They just require more frequent maintanance. But they’re oh so smooth, smoothest engines ever and love to rev like nothing else on this planet.

  • Devil’s Advocate

    bviously RotarMac you didn\’t read my post properly. I said \”…being ONE OF…\”. I did that on purpose as I knew the VW/Audi group TFSI was released before it in 2004 in an Audi A3 hatch. However I would hardly call 2004 many years before the release of the L3 Turbo. When released, and even now the L3 Turbo is still one of a very small number of DI Turbo engines.
    Also, bzzzzzz RotorMac, you are also wrong!!! Moffat never raced a turbo RX-7 in touring cars. He had a big enough battle to try and get peripheral porting and a 13B, let alone a turbo. Not to mention the RX-7 he raced had a CAMS induced 20kg, not 40kg, weight penalty over the homologated weight of 930kg. When he raced at the Daytona 24hr in 1985 he put it on pole position. Greg Hansford and Kevin Bartlett, who were there with him, asked what he had done to it due to the speed difference. All Moffat said was \”funny what 20kg can do\”. :-)
    One last thing, sports cars don\’t HAVE to be fast in a straight line. Look at the MX-5. It is universally regarded as one of the best \”pure\” sports cars in the world and it is not that quick. There are \”sports\” cars over $100k that aren\’t as much fun to drive as an MX-5 and in the end isn\’t that what it is all about??!! :-)

  • thomas

    Personally I question the relevence of the rotary engine,,,

    But then I drove an RX8 40th anniversary edition. “Only” 211nm? Feels like 300! Seems that like Honda, Mazda know that clever electronics can substitute for cubes. The way the engine stretches out, slingshots you from corner to corner…. Siiiiigh.

    I got back into my 350z and honest to god it felt like a tractor :-(

  • Paully

    I own an RX-8 and have done about 20,000 kilometres. I have regularly checked the oil and not once topped it up. I choose to use 98 octane fuel, even though it will accept E10. It was cheaper to comprehensively insure than other cars I was considering at the time of purchase (at $1400 per year). Servicing at the purchasing dealer has been acceptable as well (to keep the extended warranty valid). A louder exhaust is on my wish-list and everyone comments on how different it is, in a good way! But I probably wouldn’t get another one as I find it a chore worrying about where I drive and park it. A Forester Turbo is next.

  • HAL

    honestly, the way some of the regular commenters on this website sit there and bag every car they dislike from an authoritative, holier-than-thou position, most of the time never even having driven the car they are criticising, really does get irritating to read after a while.

    I took this car for a drive on the weekend after test driving the Ford XR5 Focus (which I just loved by the way). The RX-8 was awesome fun for totally different reasons to the XR5. Sure, you had to keep the revs right up there, but boy, once you got the hang of it it was like driving a bloody go-kart. Hilarious, you couldn’t wipe the smile off my face. And the uniqueness of it was worth it alone.

    As with every car that gets built, it all comes down to personal choice. Hell, you can pick on details of every car, but so what. If rotary isn’t your thing in particular, then great for you. It doesn’t mean that Mazda are wrong or living in the past – they just believe in continuinbg to service a niche part of their history, good on them. Some people (obviously over 165,000 of them), love it.

    I still may go the XR5 for practical reasons, but I tell you, if kids weren’t on the way me and my missus would be signing on the dotted line for one of these puppies ASAP.

  • pious

    HAL, I resemble that comment!

    That said, love the RX-8, I reckon it is classy inside and out, even with that horrible red, and the mazda box is as good as any, really (well it would wanna be – you definately change gears a lot in these things!). Apparently they burn the oil when they are new, but that is little drawback for such a nice, nimble car, which is deceptively quick as well. My only concern would be how much longer they can stay with that shape, though they have had the mx-5 forever now, so they might stick with this for a few years yet.

    • Colhard

      They always burn oil – it’s how the seals are lubed. It uses beggar all and oil is cheap

  • HAL

    hey Pious. If I’m totally honest I am probably guilty of the very thing I was making a point about too.

    So, further to out discussion the other day, I think I’m going to go with the Focus XR5. lack of cruise control is as annoying as it gets, but you can get it after-market and it’s not enough of a qualm to detract in anway from that absolutely awesome volvo T5 engine. I may be easy to please, but damn it was fun. I see now why you love you S40 so much.

  • pious

    Good man! It is the low down torque that makes it so sweet (to get this on topic, something the RX8 just doesnt have). In the volvo, it is great in auto but I would’ve loved the manual more. The engine has been around for 5 years plus now, I think it used to be used in the c70, and the s60 AWD before it went to the s40T5, so it is pretty safe, and there are some pretty warranty safe mods as well if you look at the volvo forum. Now you might keep your Norwegian sensibilities intact by saying you bought a ford, but I will know better (woo-har-har…)

  • rx8 gt owner

    all the negative post on the rx8 were related to the power and torque figures, i wonder how many people actually drove one or own one of these? i picked up the new rx8 gt in sparkling black in 07/2008 and am extremely happy with it ever since. i get looks everywhere i go and the smoothness of the rotary sound always put a smile on my face. for the price i paid i could’ve get another car that are alot quicker but the uniqueness of the rx8 is what won me in the end….if you can afford the car then i’m sure you can afford to top up the oil :p

  • Optimiser

    Totally agree with “Rx8 Gt owner”. You need to own an RX8 to really appreciate how good a car it really is.

  • Crosshead

    I bought an RX8 automatic in December 2008 and haven’t been able to take the smile off my face since. Yes, I test-drove the manual first but for the sort of city commuting I do 90% of the time, the auto kills the manual. With a super slick 6 speed auto, the performance difference in real world driving is negligible. It’s a vast improvement over the previous automatic RX8. And it’s actually more economical than the manual to boot. I also just love the uniqueness of the RX8. For a 5 year old design it still looks great and and my brilliant black car still gets looks from passers-by. There really is nothing else like a rotary, but if you’re afraid to be different, then just don’t buy one.

  • ChineseDriver

    This car is a pretty girl who you want to have one night stand with, but you don’t want be her boyfriend, or husband.

  • Mrsuntail

    I’m looking to buy a RX8 and power seems to be the main complaint from people. Ive had alot of different cars, 1959 fc holden, Datsun 260z Triumph Stag with 3.9 L rover V8 that ran 14.3 quaters all night long, a Mazda Familia turbo, even a Leyland P76. The best was definately not the fastest. My fav was the Datsun 260z, great PACKAGE for my needs and habits. Also 14.7 quater for the Rotar may not be godzilla quick or even SS commodore quick, but its still close to what a genuine GT falcon would pull, except that it actually stops and turns (added bonus) Mazda have not ever tried to be about flat out speed. Its always been about delivering what Datsun, MG and Triumph used to deliver. A sports car that you can live with.To me the RX8 seems like the modern day 260z 2+2. Not heaps fast, not heaps pretty but you can convince your wife its ok to have one. :)

  • Colin

    Dont buy, if you have sell it soon (especially when you noting the performance start dropping off).
    Mine suffered from the engine flooding (google ‘rx8 engine flood’ for those who have not heard). Try swaping parking spots with inner city living and find he next morning that your car is being towed back to the dealer [again, and again]. They will fit an alarm, but not as standard as it “does not market well”. Performance drop of is generally an early sign of rotor drop – so save up for a $16k engine [plus fitting]. Mazda will try and tell you it is because of Australian fuels – but HELLO thats where I live and brought the car – duh.

    Looks great – plastic interior better, but still not good. Engine is great disappointment, does not live up to the looks even it going to 9k red line is fun.
    Plus anyone notice the average age of people buying – nothing against this, but not good for the ego :)

  • Bob Damm

    It’s rare that I comment on these forums but I am passionate about cars, and about my RX-8. I changed to this from the MPS 6.

    The RX-8 still remains the smoothest driving car acceleration wise I have ever driven. The MPS 6 although it was loaded with torque, you paid for this in the heavy loaded clutch and VERY touchy acceleration. In fact, the few that have driven my MPS6 struggled to get a smooth experience out of the car. It took practise.

    MPS 6 was RAW POWER. RX-8 is less torque, higher revs, and let’s be honest with ourselves about the fuel. I use 14.5L of 98 RON to go 100km on average. I am sad to say that I am not a lead foot, nor am I a granny. I am middle of the road. Now as for fuel on highway. Expect it to drop to 10.5L/100km on the highway.

    Oil consumption? Yes, it uses oil. Rotaries are meant to. You add 500ml for every 1500km driven, more if you’re a revhead, less if you’re grandma. This equates to a total cost of $35 in oil between 10000k services. So jesus christ stop your bitching about it guys. If you can’t afford $35 for 6 months of driving perhaps the RX8 isn’t for you?

    • Nath

      Hi Bob,

      I’m considering getting one of these cars, which oil would you recommend using? I’m also considering a 350Z. Have you driven both? Would like to hear your opinion.

  • http://www.johnbanks.com JB

    I bought a second hand RX8 three weeks ago. Its my 5th car. I agree with Bob Damn. A little oils cost nothing. I pay $25 just to get mine cleaned inside and out!

    My mate has a CLK 500. Its 50% more power, 30% more torque, and (we will find out) 5% faster at the top end. BTW cost $100,000 more too.

    But his wife really want to take mine for a drive. Love it!

  • AM

    Hey,

    I’ve heard a lot of for and against for these cars and just after some more info. I’m looking at buying a second hand 2004 model with around 70,000 on the clock. My main concern is the overwhelming info I seem to find on the engine stalling. Is this a big issue from everyone’s experience. I still want to buy this car cause damn they are fun to drive and still look beautiful but don’t want to be spending thousands to keep it running.

    Appreciate any feedback – AM

  • Neo Utopia

    I am considering buying an RX-8 in place of a GTI for more of an entertaining drive. If I only do about 100 kilometres per week in it then I wouldn’t care about how much fuel or oil it uses, just the practicality of having a sports car which can accommodate some largish things like furniture and weekend travel stuff in the back. Any thoughts from anyone?

  • JamesG

    I dont want to make anyone cry but has anyone see the fuel economy figures for the RX8?

    RX8 auto – 12.1L/100km and manual 12.9!

    My 1700kg XR6 Turbo 6-spd auto does 11.7. (Well, I lie, my car generally hovers around 9.9 in Canberra traffic)

    The RX8 is for people who dont look at the numbers and want something funky and different and quirky.

    • Colhard

      My RX8 averages 11.9l/100km (6 speed HO) – do the maths 1L/100km over a year is beggar all $$. RX8 is a sports car XR6 is a taxi. You need a Typhoon to outpace a 180kw RX8 in a straightline and if there’s a corner go park back in the taxi stand. Horses for courses – can’t fit 5 in a RX8 and can’t tow the boat. For most RX8 owners it’s the 2nd car – something different and great fun

      • Turbodewd1

        RX8 0-100 6.4s – respectable.  Base model XR6 Turbo – 5.5s but costs $10,000 less.  Loving the taxi.  My XR6T is getting 10.4L/100kmh around town.  Very sturdy, very safe and flawless cruise control.

  • ABMPSV

    Mazda RX8 which was refreshed last year is dead. Mazda stop making it because did not make the Euro5 norms and the Euro6 is even harder to achieve. MAzda’s CO2 was 299g/kg.
    There will be a replacement for RX8.

  • Jester

    POSSIBLE replacement from 2014 only – so for now until stocks last the current RX-8 is or may be the last petrol powered rotary for ever.

  • 9500rpm

    Interesting discussion above. I own a 2009 RX8 GT, and will try to provide a balanced view of the car. I have owned or driven extensively a number of performance cars over the past 15 years, including Golf GTI, BMW 325, Toyota MR2, Toyota Celica, Lexus IS250 and Audi TT, so have some basis for comparison.
    First the downsides – real and imagined. The biggest, and in many ways only big negative is the high fuel consumption – no denying that 13 litres per 100km is thirsty. Yes it burns also uses a bit more oil, but really that is a non-issue as others have noted. Stalling / flooding? Never done it myself so I can’t figure out where that comes from. Low torque? Yes, you feel this a bit at very low revs, and it means that the RX8 does 0-100 in a relatively “slow” 6.5 seconds. But if you find drag racing in a straight line gets a bit boring after a few goes, this is no big deal.
    The positive are much more interesting. The real fun begins with the rotary spinning at 3500+ rpm … it piles on the power smoothly and urgently all the way up to 9500 rpm – nothing else feels like it – just amazing. Add this to the razor sharp and perfectly balanced chassis, and you find you you can sweep through curves with precision and speed way beyond the capabilities of much more powerful cars. Once you figure out how to tap into the rotary’s distinctive power curve and the fantastic chassis, the RX8 car delivers the best fun you can have on the roads at non-criminal speeds. The distinctive looks and surprising practicality (including back seats that, while snug, can actually accommodate adults) are the icing on top.
    I can honestly say that the RX8 is my favourite car so far. Second was GTI. TT was fun but incredibly impractical. My wife has a Lexus but I hate it -feels sloppy so I drive it only when I have to.
    I have test driven both Nissan 370z and a Boxster, and could afford either without a problem, but I have no desire to “upgrade” – love what I have.

    • Edi

      Well said there 9500rpm, the name say it all.

  • Swank

    Weird little car that belongs in Japan, period.

    • Colhard

      You sound like a taxi driver – falcoon or commondore?

  • M.

    If you have ever driven one on a winding mountain road you will understand. I am lucky enough to have had 5 years of living around great roads with mine.
    9 hours of winding roads and you get out fresh as a daisy with a huge smile on your face.
    Very few cars can boast that.
    There is exactly the right amount of power if you have the right gear and the mind blowing rev range gives a flexibility found in no other production engine.
    A Boxster or Caiman might be better under those circumstances but not much and for a damn side more money.

  • Turbodewd1

    The RX8 is horrific.  Fuel consumption poor.  Rear passenger space is no good.  They look funky and handle well but interior room is barely there.  Not for taller gents, thats for sure!  Not worth pricetag.  If you dont care about wasting money and funkyness and handling is up your alley then this may be for you.  Just dont look at any of the numbers related to this car – ouch!