Why is it, according to this online radio podcast of same vehicle (well it’s the same except for 1 letter, that doesnt change much), you seem to take what appears to be the complete opposite view?

http://www.carsguide.com.au/si.....episode_25

It seems to you were easily influenced by the opinions of the radio host who obviously has no passion (or knowledge) for cars that have more power, speed, attitude, character and all else that motor enthusiasts love, than his Prius (i’d assume that’s what he’d drive)..

Paul – sure, care advice is gaining popularity and your name is appearing every so often in the more mainstream media portals, but how about you show some consistency in your journalism?? don’t become like the others, stay true to yourself, god knows the Oz hi-po market needs the support.

So true mate, so true. Cant wait for next year, hopefully with the more powerful V8 coming out, the f6 can have some more power upgrades n some room to have fun =)
Great time to be a ford/fpv fan

the f6 310 is a very fast car. i would no bcoz mum father has 1.now he has read up on this car and he gound out that the car is under rated if u didnt no that. the car reali has over 330KWs. if this car had fatter tyers it would b a very quick car as the tyres dnt reali grip on in the car now as the car has to much power.

My question is how long does it take for one to drive the F6 before the rattling and stuff become noticable? Less than 5 – 8 years?

I agree completly with you. The F6 is a truly remarkable vehicle, we really should be incredibly glad we still have access to this sort of genuine muscle at what is a very reasonable price for the outstanding performance on offer.

I have a neo blue BF11 Typhoon ZF six speed auto with the same turbine style rims as the current F6 and really love it. It blows away any HSV I’ve ever met, has huge reserves of useable torque and power and despite saying 270KW / 550nm on the plate, I know from the Ford Forums most guys are getting low / mid 240′ KWs at the rear wheels which with typical 17% drive-line losses, indicates about 295KW @ the crankshaft, again FPV were understating the real power figure.

I’ve had a good drive of the new FG F6 and its absolutly ballistic, trouble is its only about 0.3-0.4 seconds quicker than my puppy so its hard to justify to the missus the $30,000 change-over price, in fact I find it hard to rationalise it myself.

Anyway, much as I love my Phoon I’m also really looking forward to the possibility of the GTHO and am hoping they go with the supercharged 5.0 direct injection V8 engine Jag are using which makes 375Kw and 620nm.

They’ll need to use the higher torque ZF box rated to 700nm or detune the torque slightly to get under the 600nm limit of the ZFHP26 unit.

With a new high tech diesel coming for the Territory, modernised Euro4 compliant inline engines and liquid LPG injection, and the above developments, 2010 looks like a big year for Ford & FPV.

Bring it on, I can’t wait.

Meantime I will have to MAKE DO with my BF11 Typhoon…such a hardship…LOL.

I hope your right as finally FPV can take the brakes off the F6. They tuned the F6 motor to run on as little as 91 Octane, lowered the compression ratio and are still understating the true power output at 310KW.

Torque too has been held back by the 600nm limit on the ZF HP26 gearbox limit.

Lots of guys are typically already getting around 280KW at the rear wheels in factory stock tune which with theoretical drive line losses widely acknowledged at not less than 17%, indicates the deliberatly de-tuned engine is already really making about 337KW.
at the crankshaft.

You see, up till now FPV don’t want to acknpwledge that their inline turbo six is making more power than a V8, that’s marketing sucicide when 62% of sales are the V8.

The truth is a simple re-tune to run on 98 Octane only and recalibration of the ECU has them making about 350KW at the crankshaft and well north of 600nm, but of course they need the higher powered V8, (to avoid a marketing gaff) and higher torque ZF box before the true potential of the F6 MK11 can be realised, hopefully sometime in 2010.

With Euro IV emission controls set to come in on July 1 next year, FPV will finally retire the existing 5.4-litre Boss V8.

What is not clear is whether the 2010 engine will be an advanced version of the current unit, which an FPV insider previously told GoAuto had exhausted its development capability, or a significantly new engine.

Two engines being developed by Ford US could form the base of the new FPV powerplant.

One is a dual-overhead-cam direct-injection V8 and the other is a 6.2-litre single-overhead-cam V8 that could be converted locally to a dual overhead cam set-up.

Either engine could be available in XR8 Ford models, which will also need a new or updated V8 to meet the mid-2010 emission standards.

It is not yet clear if these two Ford US engines would be available in time for the mid-year FPV deadline.
Either engine may require additional performance components to meet the sorts of power and torque figures being sought by FPV.

It should be noted that recently released Jaguar 5.0-litre direct-injection V8, available in naturally aspirated or supercharged form, is an upgraded version of the existing AJ engine and is different to the new Ford 5.0 V8.

FPV general manager Rod Barrett remains tight-lipped about the all-important powerplant, but did confirm the replacement engine was under development at the company’s Campbellfield headquarters.

“We are pressing on, we have got engines here at the moment and we are currently developing our new engine which will be Euro IV on July 1,” he said.

“This (existing) engine will go and there will be a new engine for us.”

Mr Barrett said the engine would be unique.

“I think you will be surprised when you see the engine come out,” he said.

“The engine will be hand-built over at FPV as it is now. That doesn’t mean the componentry can’t come in from somewhere else as it does now, but it will still be assembled at the engine plant.”

The big question among Ford fans is not so much about the identity of the new engine, but if it will be able to match the performance of the HSV V8 engines.

GoAuto asked Mr Barrett if the new V8 would rectify the perceived weakness of the Ford V8 compared to the HSV equivalent.

He said: “Yes. I’m excited about our new V8.”

When asked whether the engine would allow for more development – more power and torque – Mr Barrett said: “To stay competitive we have to keep developing the engine.”

It would also allow for fuel economy gains, Mr Barrett said.

“We got seven per cent out of F6 and five per cent out of the V8 when we went to FG so we will continue to look at fuel economy as we go,” he said.

While FPV does also have a strong six-cylinder, the V8 is the most important engine with sales split 62/38 per cent in favour of the eight.

“We are still very much a V8 car company,” Mr Barrett said.

July 10 is the bgining of a new era for the falcon V8 and the death of HSV V8s being number 1 n havin to ride on the bitch seat!!!!