Rack and Pinion, your spot on. The F6 is a real Australian gem. Its not so much the power as the abundent spread of torque 565nm from 1950-5200 r.p.m. which gives it the incrredible real world on road performance, Autocar N.Z. have vboxed the 80-120 k.p.h. time at 2.64 seconds, that’s within one tenth of a second of the twin turbo Audi RS6 which is making over 420KW and 650nm and nearly half a second quicker than the HSV 427 which wheels timed at 3.1 seconds !!

The review’s opinion of the suspension is not shared by me, I’ve reviewed it myself and found it to be a great balance between comfort, compliance whlist maintaining tight control in corners, and having excellent balance and sharp turn in.

Many people question whether this is worth $20,000 over a FG XR6T, I’d say yes, the world class brakes are known to be over half the price difference alone and the Std brakes on Falc turbo arn’t really up to hard core sports driving.

A world class real genuine muscle car for $66,000…what’s not to love ?

Disapointed, i agree so much, this is the type of car we want to read about, i mean, there was a period a few months ago when there was about 5, 3 page van reviews gracing the main stories. And yet, this gets a 1 page review, with no acceleration times, or anything?

But yes, that kia sorato is looking very enticing right now!

I agree on the whole disappointing article view that many hold.
For most of it i was confused as to whether it was actually a road test or just a release of info

Great car and a bargain i reckon, as its quicker in normal road condition than 427 hsv in over taking and rolling jumps and sporty and comfy as well

Sorry about the pictures guys, they’re on another hard disk and being uploaded this evening.

Someone asked about the amount of kilometres on the clock. Our test car had a whopping 11,000km on the clock and if I hadn’t seen the figure for myself, I would have assumed it was near new and a baby.

It pulled just as hard as a brand new example, so I was quite impressed with that.

The vehicle was tested before we had our new testing equipment, so performance figures are unavailable for that reason. We might grab the car again and see what we can muster up down at the strip.

For those complaining about the review, what else more could you want me to say? It goes very fast in a straight line, it sounds great but it doesn’t do corners. There’s heaps of room inside and it’s a relative bargain.

If you have any questions, fire them away! I’d be more than happy to answer.

thanks for the clarification paul, i’m keen to see the pictures

Paul Maric, any burnout pics? No no sorry.. pics of responsible driving? Did you notice any flimsy plastics? Any clunkyness in the driveline when driven in manual mode? But otherwise from what i gather you werent able to really push the falcons limits (pictures of drifts would be F-GREAT). Please, next time actually take it out on the track and drag strip and test it for yourself, with a direct comparison with a clubsport or some HSV instead of just talking to others who have done it. Maybe even a video of the exhaust note and acceleration too 100. Otherwise reads like you took it for a 15min test drive with a salesman. This is Australia’s best muscle car yet! Not an econobox. But yeh its an underwhelming review which is probably resulting from limitations outside your control so i am looking forward to a much more comprehensive review!

The F6 is an awesome car but I absolutely hate the fact that it has turbo lag. What FPV should have done is either, supercharge or go with a twin turbo and maybe forged pistons, but some bigger tires would also increase speed…just a little bit. But I’m happy with the rest of the car, especially the looks.

Stig, do you have one of these beasts??

Quote [Lee]: Now just throw a few thousand left hook versions on a ship over here to the USA please.

Lee its good to get a bit of feedback as to what those in Europe and particularly the USA think about our Aussie made cars.
Because there are a fair few people on here who like to think that the Falcon and the Commodore are inferior products and not able to compete on the international stage.
If only those in Detroit shared the same viewpoint as you.

Andrew M, Realist was merely pointing out some of Rack and Pinions glaringly stupid fan boy remarks, the sort of remarks that get people all fired up and angry.

Calais V unfortunately only has projector lights. Frown. The only Holden (not HSV) to sport them is the Caprice. For reference, bi-xenon equipped cars can be identified by the headlight washers that are compulsory, so as to wash away road grime to ensure the headlight cases don’t overheat.

Anyway, to make a brash statement, I don’t think the F6 is perfect, nor the GTS. F6 could be improved with the GTS’ Magnetic suspension and wheel/tyre combination. GTS could be improved with F6′s gearbox. Overall, I’d say the cars really are very evenly matched, both have their flaws, but in terms of the consumer, HSV makes the best V8 option, Ford the best Turbo 6 option. Not everyone wants a turbo car, not everyone wants a V8.

Okay I’m new to this site so I should put my cards on the table, I own the previous model F6, the BF11 Typhoon which came out with the turbine style wheels, the same tyres and brembo brakes fitted to the FG i.e. all were carry over items. Mine has now done 15,500km’s and it just turned two years old, (no problems so far) and yes its an absolute rocket, I’m very happy indeed.

I have to say I take exception to the comment Paul, that the Typhoon doesn’t do corners. Besides owning mine for two years I’ve had a thorough evaluation of the new FG F6 and gave it some really hard treatment over nearly two hours. I’ve also evaluated a HSV GTS and would offer the following observations.

By way of comparison the GTS’s magnetic ride control offers two settings, hard and rock hard, yes if that’s your cup of tea great, it sits flatter in the corners and is easier to drive on the limit due to its more easily managed and progressive power delivery.

OTOH it doesn’t really boggie until you hit 4,000 r.p.m. you feel every bump, corrigation and pot hole in the road and its been timed by numerous testers slower the the FG F6 both in 0-100 and especially in real world on-road performacne at 3.1 seconds for the overtake run, 80-120 k.p.h. v as little as 2.64 in the F6 according to Autocar N.Z. as vboxed. This measurement gives you the real story of how much quicker the F6 is in the real world.

Then there’s the serious replacement cost of its twenty inch tyres to consider in the HSV vs considerably more reasonably priced 19inch hoops on the F6.

The Turbo mill is far easier to live with on a daily basis IMO as its max torque is far more flexible, delivered from as little as 1950 r.p.m. its considerably more fuel efficient 12.1 litres v about 15 in the HSV.

Further its a proven cast iron mill whole longevity is without question.

Autocar N.Z. nominated the F6 as their performacne car of the year and their overall 2008 car of the year and commented on its fine blend of compliance and handling. Further… the Guild of professional motoring journalists of N.Z., as assocaition of professional journalists from throughout N.Z. voted the Falc range overall as their car of the year.

IMO, and clearly I’m not the only one who thinks this, a sports car’s suspension needs to blend suppleness, compliance and absorbancy over everyday secondary roads with sharp turn in, and controlled body roll. Its really not a huge turn-on driving a car on an everyday basis with rock hard suspension and FPV and I believe thinking enthusiats recognise this.

With all due respect, Paul, where I really beg to differ with you is this, yes the FG F6 is a very hard car to drive on the limit in corners with the main reason being its lack of linear power delivery, its either on boost or off, and trust me guys…you’ll know the difference and won’t need to look at the boost guage….

So it becomes quite hard to control the power delivery accuratly mid corner as its either all on or not, (FPV do not help this by their electronic throttle which is basically set up to delivery very quick throttle response with the result that about one third throttle depression, generates about 95% thrust).

Finally here are the performance differences between my BF11 Typhoon and the newest F6 according again to Autocar N.Z.

BF11 0-100 5.35 seconds FG F6 4.82 seconds
80-120 2.95 seconds v 2.64 seconds.

The FG F6 has quite a bit less turbo lag than the BF11 which is a key ingrediant behind the slightly quicker accleration times IMO.

Quarter mile seem to vary depending on who you talk to but there seems to be about 0.3-0.4 seonds in it.

Hopefully this lengthy post and insight is valuable to anyone seriously interested in the F6.

Andrew M No launch control…., but create your own by winding up the turbo and revs to about 3000 r.p.m. while holding it under brakes…(which gets the torque converter and drive-line all loaded up)….then flatten the throttle whilst contemperaneously releasing the brakes, hard on the car, but of my lord, its a lot of fun.

The FG F6 has a more efficently organised set up, with lower pressure loss, (a far larger and thicker inetercooler and shorter turbo pipe plumbing is a major factor here). The net result is the BF11 needs a blast into the boost zone to initally pressurise the system, thereafter tunbo lag is minimal, less than a quarter of a second, whereas I found any lag the FG F6 has, is almost non existent.

Both models use the Garratt GT 3540 turbo with the BF11 running 9 p.s.i. boost and the new Fg F6 13.3 p.s.i., the BF11′s boost pressure can be easily changed by a flash edit and not many are still stock, although I’ve never personally felt the need as its allready ballistic so have retained stock tune and the warranty cover.

There’s little discernable difference in torque but the current model carriers its torque spread higher in the rev range 565nm (1950-5200 r.p.m.), BF11 550nm (2000-4250 revs) realy 15 extra nm’s is neither here nor there but combine that together with the extra 40Kw it does make for a more explosive top end, whereas the bottom end and mid range are almost identical although as mentioned the current model has faster spool-up.

BF and BF11 Typhoon’s can currently be purchased for around or a little more than half the price of the current model F6 and in my opinion are an extremly good buy as especially with the BF11 you have the current models tyres, rims and excellent world class
Brembo brakes the enhanced FPV sports suspension and the same exclusitivity. Oh and BF11′s have the proper badges and name “Typhoon”

In the real world on the road there’s little to differentiate the BF11 and FG F6, with perhaps the BF11 giving you a fraction of a second longer to spool up, personally speaking I prefer this as it gives my brain that fraction of a second it needs to engage “go fast mode”, whereas the boost in the new FG F6 seems to be all over you.

Interestingly even BF11 Typhoons equipped with the world class ZF six speed auto have on road acceleration 80-120 of 2.95 seconds which is quicker than either a HSV GTS or the rather outrageously $155,000 priced W427 which according to Wheels has been timed at only 3.1 seconds, go figure….proving newest and most expensive isn’t always best.

I didnt think they had Launch control.

you are obviously talking about building boost up on an Auto at the start though

very nice car
but the only thing i dont understand is where the extra 40kw over the xr6t goes they both do 0-100 in the same amount of time personally id rather buy the xr6t and drop 20k on suspension and engine

Alex lol, HSV has a blind spot where ever an F6 is visible in the world. To HSV this does not exist.

I agree that it is a fantastic performing car… good job Ford Australia.

However, as some said.. and pretty much formulaic..
For 70K AUD and with its performance and spec sheet.

This car isnt designed to last, assuming it is driven close to its potential on a regular basis. Money is spent on installing performance parts for short term use.

There is a reason why 300+ kW vehicles that Euros/Japanese makes are all sub 120K+ AUD… or around 80K USD… using high end steel, extra weld spots on the hard points etc.

But still, drive this car with high regards then it should be fine… but then again wouldnt you just buy a GE6?

Still nice! But a 220kW STi or an EVO or even the 135i are better alternatives… because those cars are better built and the compromises for performance (smaller size etc) are logical. Heavy cars with a $hit load of power is way easier to acocmplish…

ah yes but if u look at the resale of this car the manual will hold its value over a auto car cause everyone wants an auto personally id rathr a manual n autos are not faster than manuals if so y didnt the corvett have auto insted of manual main reason manual holds up beta with power and is a performance car feel and u also have more controll over a manual then a auto but i love my auto for crusing round and especialy in traffic

Well, that’s the first time I’ve ever read a motoring journo review a performance car and complain that the stability control intervenes too LATE.

With all due respect, Paul, you need to give this car to somebody who knows how to handle a car at pace and have them review it again. Have you ever wondered why race vehicles do not have DSC/ESP and are faster for it? And why the world’s best performance cars have DSC intervene later rather than earlier? The Ford system is set up for people who actually want to experience and enjoy handling their vehicle on the limit, not enjoy having the electronics handle it for them.

And this… “the heavy-ish steering gives ill-confidence on approach to a corner. It feels as though all the speed built up approaching the corner is wasted as soon as it comes time to turn in.”

That’s weird, because in every handling and lap time comparo produced by other publications, the F6 spanks any HSV you care to name. The front end handling of the FG’s is particularly praised as opposed to the rear end predictability of the HSVs.

It’s nice to see a caradvice review where a writer is not afraid to criticise a car, however in light of the facts, your comments have brought your qualification to review this type of vehicle into question.

f6 (zf auto) 0-100 – 5.01s
vw (dsg) r36 – 5.6
f6 kerb weight 1778kg
vw r36 kerb weight 1681 (97 kg advantage)
f6 4.0 liter TURBO six, emission standard – steam machine equivalent
vw r36 3.6 liter NORMALLY ASPIRATED six euro 4 emission standard
f6 boot size 505ltrs(full size spare alloy wheel)
vw r 36 boot size 541ltrs(full size spare alloy wheel)
Interior space – the same really.
vw r36 $67,990 (includes 10% import tax)
f6 $66,590 (includes billions of dollars sunk in keeping “local” car industry afloat)
I`m not a internet nerd making love with figures but…
I`ve got to drive my friends f6 sedan (he`s an air conditioner installer) and i`ve got to drive my friends r36 (he`s a dentist – figures) and i`ve got to say just one thing the ford is a taxi with a turbo.I don`t live in denial, the f6 is fast alright and it is faster than the r36 in rolling acceleration (mind you though the r36 still has oh so sweet mid range response) but that`s it in every other aspect the r36 is the better car, and so what it has hard ride, harden the flock up and get them roads fixed.
And why is the f6 limited to 190km/h? Yeah I admit it I did it on Calder fwy.

As promised guys, here are the Phillip Island lap times. The driver is an experienced racer and the company who gave us the results has a car in that list.

M3 Coupe: 1 minute 49.8 seconds
Audi RS 6 1 minute 51.0 seconds
Mercedes SL 63: 1 minute 51.7 seconds
Audi TT S: 1 minute 53.4 seconds
Mercedes C 63: 1 minute 53.6 seconds
FPV F6: 1 minute 53.8 seconds

Im guessing the car that the company owned was the M3 coupe.
surely they would have gotten the quickest lap time out of their own car.

It would be interesting to see the price tag along side each of those cars.
If i get bored enough ill try to arrange them. someone feel free to beat me to it though

Also where is the HSV in that list Paul??
surely thats not the only 6 vehicles they have lap times for

J.J.T is Dingo……………reported

Regarding the DSC callibration, I concurr its late intervening, but nonetheless its nice to have as a back up, I’m used to driving and controlling 550nm of torque with the BF11 Typhoon which doesn’t even have DSC at all.

Someone brought up the R Spec Typhoon which as I’m sure most of you will remember was a limited run of 300 vehicles set up with considerably firmer suspension, which I think it was Wheels or Motor used to shave more than a second insoem cases two off the lap times of various tracks.

There’s nothing “sweeter than a repeater” so look out for a FG F6 Rpec Mk11 in 2010.

Of course an Audi R8 or equilivent is undoubtably going to track betetr and be better balanced, you’d hope so considering the price, but for $66,000, we”re very very fortunate to have such an extremly capable vehicle as the Fg F6, in my opinion.

With the world financial crisis continuing unabated, it may not always be that way, so as they say, enjoy while you can.

Quote [John A]: wheelnut.i think most europeans like the concept of our falcon and holden so much gear at a realistic price.most euro cars are rather bareboned unless you go to the options list then they become overpriced.the only thing that the europeans dont like about the big aussies is the shocking build quality and cheap looking interiors..

that’s what yu think.. However; there are a number of European cars with interiors that are just as cheap looking not to mention the same level of build quality [and reliability] as the Commodore or Falcon – both of which has undoubtedly improved over the past 10 years.

James said: “Still nice! But a 220kW STi or an EVO or even the 135i are better alternatives… because those cars are better built and the compromises for performance (smaller size etc) are logical. Heavy cars with a $hit load of power is way easier to acocmplish…”

Yep its easy, you’re right because you have done it hey? Let me see which other auto maker has produced a large family sedan, with good fuel economy, 6 cylinder block that can handle well over 1000HP and runs 12 seconds over the quater stock with air con on to boot… ummmm who else has done this coz its easy? ummmm THATS RIGHT … NO ONE! The STi and new EVO is great till you put a little extra power through their weak iron blocks and guess what happens? BOOM! Yep you’re right, great cars! Mitsi went backwards when they ditched the tough iron block for alloy, but when the environmental dogooders force you to make cars that warm up faster thats the price you power.

Andrew M

FG F6 3 seconds quicker around a track than BF Typhoon, which track was that ?

Unsurprisingly as a BF11 Typhoon owner I’ve read everyting I can get my hands on regarding the FG F6 and cannot recall anything like the performance differential you mentioned. So if you could validate that I’d appreciate it.

The FG F6 is a quicker machine no question, especially at the top end which is where the extra 40KW comes into play, but I seriously doubt three seconds, unless of course your talking about a really long track like Bathurst.

550 nm v 565nm is only a 3% torque improvement and that’s the most telling reason why the FG isn’t all that much quicker, especially with the same carry over brakes and 19 inch rims as the BF11 Typhoon.

Whether a punter buys a late model BF or BF11 Typhoon for a little over half the price of a new Fg F6 or the new one, believe me, either way, you’ll be VERY VERY happy.

BM,
Ive already hunted around and found 0-100 times and prices on most of those listed.
The reason i was asking for 0-100 times and prices is because i found exactlly what i suspected.

the cars used in the comparison seem to all be around half a second quicker to the 100k mark than the F6.

Now if the track time ranges from about 3 seconds slower to .2 seconds slower for the F6, then how come the lap times dont show a bigger gap considering the F6 is handicapped with take off speed aswell???

for example, the M3 gets to 100ks 10% quicker than the F6, yet the M3 is only 5 % quicker around a track than the F6.

on top of that, you are looking at double the price of an F6 and up for any of those on the list.

why not compare lap times of a HSV around a track???
I mean HSV quote the GTS at around the same time to 100 clicks as the F6, so why not let that show if the F6 can handle or not.

James G
ha ha ha ha ha ha
i suppose it is a weird way of giving a compliment

Yeah Buck but depends who was driving hey,I think John Bowe was the test driver for the FG F6 on that day they got an extra 3 seconds out of it.

Im thinking Ford should step it up and twin turbo it that will get rid of the Turbo lag. This was auto too wasnt it ? Got to be a manual for me,sorry ! Only ever driven the BA Phoon and I have to say it was bloody awful,at the time we were looking at ditching the BA GT and had heard how good the Phoon was.I drove the auto and was bored off my tits with it! Im use too my grunt low down {although the Boss 290,also lacks in that area}I know they improved the trans but Im yet to find a manual that can shift as fast as I want to !

Andrew, babe I hear what your saying but remember also the Euros have got their performance cars chassis’s tuned to perfection,I mean M3s have been around for 20 years now and have sold thousands of them around the world.FPV have been going for what,5 years and sell only to the local market! Not bad going I think considering the time difference around the track.

Best thing is I bet its faster than the IS-F is snigger snigger

It will be intersting to see what Ford do as HSV are expected to release a Twin-Turbo version of the new direct injection V6 in the upcoming Commodore which [if the engine in the TT-36 Torana Concept is anything to go by] should be able to produce the same amount of power as the Ford – if not more. Yet HSV tend to keep things rather close to thier chest.. we will have to wait and see

Even if HSV do release a twin turbo version of their direct injection V6, which I’ll believe when I see, they’ll only be seven years behind Ford, LOL.

Besides, FPV have already said ther’e a lot more development left in the inline six and now that production is to continue beyond 2010, I’m keen to see hor far they take this iconic engine.

BF11 Typhoon 9 p.s.i. boost = 270KW
FG F6 13.3 p.s.i. boost = 310Kw

The Audi twin turbo RS6 is running 23 p.s.i. boost.

Simple extrapolation suggests if you wound up the booost to 23 p.s.i. on a MK11 FG F6 R Spec to 23 p.s.i. it would make 400.21KW

Bring it on, I say.

A stiffer suspension setup and better tyres should sort out the handling issues of an otherwise mad car.

hey wheelnut what i was trying to say is that holden and ford are loaded with kit as standard ,if you want a euro with the same amount of gear you will pay a fortune,however i standby what i said about build quality and reliability in holden and ford it is not up to euro standard.having said all that im fully aware just because its euro it doesnt automaticly mean its perfect.

Hotfuzz, u have some sort of racist problem. First of all i know many “wog’s” who drive cars such as WRX’s and Supras/ skylines. They generally dont like bogan mobiles. even thoguh im a dead red supporter i believe this is a world class car with little fault. but the handling could be improved. Anyway good job ford but the W427 is creeping up on this car.

FORD Performance Vehicles (FPV) will have a more powerful V8 engine next year, but it will still be locally assembled.

With Euro IV emission controls set to come in on July 1 next year, FPV will finally retire the existing 5.4-litre Boss V8.

What is not clear is whether the 2010 engine will be an advanced version of the current unit, which an FPV insider previously told GoAuto had exhausted its development capability, or a significantly new engine.

Two engines being developed by Ford US could form the base of the new FPV powerplant.

One is a dual-overhead-cam direct-injection V8 and the other is a 6.2-litre single-overhead-cam V8 that could be converted locally to a dual overhead cam set-up.

Either engine could be available in XR8 Ford models, which will also need a new or updated V8 to meet the mid-2010 emission standards.

It is not yet clear if these two Ford US engines would be available in time for the mid-year FPV deadline.
Either engine may require additional performance components to meet the sorts of power and torque figures being sought by FPV.

It should be noted that recently released Jaguar 5.0-litre direct-injection V8, available in naturally aspirated or supercharged form, is an upgraded version of the existing AJ engine and is different to the new Ford 5.0 V8.

FPV general manager Rod Barrett remains tight-lipped about the all-important powerplant, but did confirm the replacement engine was under development at the company’s Campbellfield headquarters.

“We are pressing on, we have got engines here at the moment and we are currently developing our new engine which will be Euro IV on July 1,” he said.

“This (existing) engine will go and there will be a new engine for us.”

Mr Barrett said the engine would be unique.

“I think you will be surprised when you see the engine come out,” he said.

“The engine will be hand-built over at FPV as it is now. That doesn’t mean the componentry can’t come in from somewhere else as it does now, but it will still be assembled at the engine plant.”

The big question among Ford fans is not so much about the identity of the new engine, but if it will be able to match the performance of the HSV V8 engines.

GoAuto asked Mr Barrett if the new V8 would rectify the perceived weakness of the Ford V8 compared to the HSV equivalent.

He said: “Yes. I’m excited about our new V8.”

When asked whether the engine would allow for more development – more power and torque – Mr Barrett said: “To stay competitive we have to keep developing the engine.”

It would also allow for fuel economy gains, Mr Barrett said.

“We got seven per cent out of F6 and five per cent out of the V8 when we went to FG so we will continue to look at fuel economy as we go,” he said.

While FPV does also have a strong six-cylinder, the V8 is the most important engine with sales split 62/38 per cent in favour of the eight.

“We are still very much a V8 car company,” Mr Barrett said.

July 10 is the bgining of a new era for the falcon V8 and the death of HSV V8s being number 1 n havin to ride on the bitch seat!!!!

To true mate, I just hope this new V8 is on par with the f6, that way theres a better chance of the ho returning, yeh i said it, the gt-ho!!!! Will be interesting to see if they make the gt supercharged as standard, or just leave it for the ho, which they probably will. But the fpv V8s have to make at least 335 kws and somewhere around 580nm at 4200 rpm? Thats sounds good in my books, n its dohc/soch so itl sound so awesome making that power to. Up the mighty ford/fpv V8!!!!

Sorry in the 12 second zone lol. GO FORD N FPV!!!! Cant wait for the new V8!!!!!

lol yeh i really feel sorry uv just gotta drive ur Typhoon around, good that must hurt lol. Yeh it will be a big year, cant wait, go the blue oval!!!!

Yeah BK although I would have liked to see Coldbum there instead.Qualifying system sucks ,I can see them ditching it!

OSU811, “GREAT CAR!!! When its new at least. my only reservations would be, my confidence of fords build quality long term, when the rattles and loosening of the car starts to happen.”

My question is how long does it take for one to drive the F6 before the rattling and stuff become noticable? Less than 5 – 8 years?

Rack and pinion Says:
January 31st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Yeah i agree……very brief review for such a great car. But thats typical really. People are only interested in crap cars like daewoo holdens and boring plain transport like toyota’s. Ford are the oly ones that really make something different like the F6 G6E Turbo and XR6 Turbo and because it doesnt have a Holden badge on it it gets one page. Imagine the review if this was a HSV F6…….it would be the best car evr and the review would be a real wankfest for Holden bogans !!! Oh i forgot…….its not an old pushrod 7 litre v8 so ………….

So true mate, so true. Cant wait for next year, hopefully with the more powerful V8 coming out, the f6 can have some more power upgrades n some room to have fun =)
Great time to be a ford/fpv fan

Paul Maric – You say that you reviewed this car and according to this article you praise it highly.

Why is it, according to this online radio podcast of same vehicle (well it’s the same except for 1 letter, that doesnt change much), you seem to take what appears to be the complete opposite view?

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/car-news/carsguide_radio_episode_25

It seems to you were easily influenced by the opinions of the radio host who obviously has no passion (or knowledge) for cars that have more power, speed, attitude, character and all else that motor enthusiasts love, than his Prius (i’d assume that’s what he’d drive)..

Paul – sure, care advice is gaining popularity and your name is appearing every so often in the more mainstream media portals, but how about you show some consistency in your journalism?? don’t become like the others, stay true to yourself, god knows the Oz hi-po market needs the support.

my 285kW grange with 510Nm keeps up with this plus its 4 speed auto and it got over 200k on lock still like new 6 years on.