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	<title>Comments on: Does speed kill? Revenue Before Safety</title>
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		<title>By: Roskis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roskis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To think this country is democratic and free and ... &quot;unlike the communists&quot; ALL THIS GODDAMN BS SPEED KILLS PROPAGANDA IS EXACTLY LIKE THE STUFF THEY DO IN THE SOVIET UNION AND CHINA etc.

Personally, i&#039;ve seen more accidents in bad weather conditions at low speeds (~40km/hr) than spectacular movie like high speed smashes. In fact, when i&#039;m breaking the speed limit, i&#039;m more alert, more aware and more focused. When i&#039;m stuck in traffic i always find myself dozing off and sometimes even fail to notice the hot women walking infront of my car. C&#039;mon those politicians need money and if they can&#039;t increase the taxes, they sure as hell will find other ways to steal money from the people.

Cops are corrupt. Politicians are pricks. Time to stand up for ourselves and not pay the fines we get. If we all fail to pay the fail the legal system won&#039;t be able to deal with such a massive number of prosecutions and thus politicians should be forced to reconsider their evil plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think this country is democratic and free and &#8230; &#8220;unlike the communists&#8221; ALL THIS GODDAMN BS SPEED KILLS PROPAGANDA IS EXACTLY LIKE THE STUFF THEY DO IN THE SOVIET UNION AND CHINA etc.</p>
<p>Personally, i&#8217;ve seen more accidents in bad weather conditions at low speeds (~40km/hr) than spectacular movie like high speed smashes. In fact, when i&#8217;m breaking the speed limit, i&#8217;m more alert, more aware and more focused. When i&#8217;m stuck in traffic i always find myself dozing off and sometimes even fail to notice the hot women walking infront of my car. C&#8217;mon those politicians need money and if they can&#8217;t increase the taxes, they sure as hell will find other ways to steal money from the people.</p>
<p>Cops are corrupt. Politicians are pricks. Time to stand up for ourselves and not pay the fines we get. If we all fail to pay the fail the legal system won&#8217;t be able to deal with such a massive number of prosecutions and thus politicians should be forced to reconsider their evil plans.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmm yeah i agree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm yeah i agree</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silv, 
yes, being hit at 50km/hr would probably cause less damage than being hit at 60km/hr but,
so would 40km/hr, 30km/hr, 20km/hr...
The point being, it becomes a matter of where to draw the line, i.e. what is safe for the conditions.

As to the matter of crossing the road, the ability of the driver has little involvement in the case... as long as all the drivers have passed reasonable test requirements.
The fact still remains that there is little statistical evidence showing that it is speed reductions which have saved lives, ergo the necessity for speed monitoring and punishment by law enforcement.
If there statistically is any evidence for a reduction in road deaths, there are also many other areas which are more likely to be the primary factors, as mentioned above.
All said, I&#039;m not asking for an increase in road speeds, just the focus to be shifted from &quot;are you over the speed limit?&quot; to &quot;are you driving safely?&quot;.
I think that&#039;s the real truth to the story here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silv,<br />
yes, being hit at 50km/hr would probably cause less damage than being hit at 60km/hr but,<br />
so would 40km/hr, 30km/hr, 20km/hr&#8230;<br />
The point being, it becomes a matter of where to draw the line, i.e. what is safe for the conditions.</p>
<p>As to the matter of crossing the road, the ability of the driver has little involvement in the case&#8230; as long as all the drivers have passed reasonable test requirements.<br />
The fact still remains that there is little statistical evidence showing that it is speed reductions which have saved lives, ergo the necessity for speed monitoring and punishment by law enforcement.<br />
If there statistically is any evidence for a reduction in road deaths, there are also many other areas which are more likely to be the primary factors, as mentioned above.<br />
All said, I&#8217;m not asking for an increase in road speeds, just the focus to be shifted from &#8220;are you over the speed limit?&#8221; to &#8220;are you driving safely?&#8221;.<br />
I think that&#8217;s the real truth to the story here.</p>
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		<title>By: Silv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does anyone cross the road? To get to the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does anyone cross the road? To get to the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>silv, i think you should turn the question around
why are you walking across the road? you should never walk across the road when there is a car coming.... that would solve the worlds problems!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>silv, i think you should turn the question around<br />
why are you walking across the road? you should never walk across the road when there is a car coming&#8230;. that would solve the worlds problems!</p>
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		<title>By: Silv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re walking across the road and you&#039;re hit by a car, would you prefer to be hit at 50km/h or 60km/h?

Whilst that report might tell people what they want to hear, it could hardly be considered impartial or scientific. Low on facts, high on emotive generalizations.

Of course we are all above average drivers, who never make mistakes, we can drive as fast as we want cause we have the skills. It&#039;s all those other people that aren&#039;t as skilled as us that are the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re walking across the road and you&#8217;re hit by a car, would you prefer to be hit at 50km/h or 60km/h?</p>
<p>Whilst that report might tell people what they want to hear, it could hardly be considered impartial or scientific. Low on facts, high on emotive generalizations.</p>
<p>Of course we are all above average drivers, who never make mistakes, we can drive as fast as we want cause we have the skills. It&#8217;s all those other people that aren&#8217;t as skilled as us that are the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: scott cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article.  one could be forgiven for wondering why in a southern oz state they are building high speed motorways and then emplacing speed cameras.  i dont quite get the logic there fellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  one could be forgiven for wondering why in a southern oz state they are building high speed motorways and then emplacing speed cameras.  i dont quite get the logic there fellers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, guys!

Does speed kills? It&#039;s a yes and no.

However, here&#039;s an article that gives us ideas on how we/the government can reduce the number of kills.

Check it out..

http://www.socyberty.com/Issues/Let-Youngsters-Play-Their-Racing-Game-for-Free.28880

I would like to know your opinion about the ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, guys!</p>
<p>Does speed kills? It&#8217;s a yes and no.</p>
<p>However, here&#8217;s an article that gives us ideas on how we/the government can reduce the number of kills.</p>
<p>Check it out..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socyberty.com/Issues/Let-Youngsters-Play-Their-Racing-Game-for-Free.28880" rel="nofollow">http://www.socyberty.com/Issue.....Free.28880</a></p>
<p>I would like to know your opinion about the ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: cate</title>
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		<dc:creator>cate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 08:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my goodness thank you so much for this!!

I agree completely but it feels like no one else does!

what you say is absolutely right that people are trying not to get caught, taking more risks, and just getting frustrated by the congestion low speeds cause - 

But even moreso than all that, i have always been very doubtful that speeding is even a big cause of crashes at all.

Of course in a number of cases people are speeding when they crash, but this does NOT mean that they crashed BECAUSE they were speeding. It is just so simplistic.

People crash because they arent good drivers, because they arent watching the road etc etc.

This should be plain obvious when we take a look at motorists in europe. I know germany for one doesnt have any speed limit at all. It is pefectly normal for cars to be driving around at 220km/h - and yet their road toll is lower than ours!!!

if the government is really desperate to make roads safer, and also make more money, they should do what germany does, and just make it REALLY expensive to get a driver licence and have more rigourous testing.

That way they make more money, drivers are of a higher quality, and there is less congestion and pollution!!

solves a lot of problems doesnt it?

It cant really be denied that these days, any encouragement for people to use more public transport is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my goodness thank you so much for this!!</p>
<p>I agree completely but it feels like no one else does!</p>
<p>what you say is absolutely right that people are trying not to get caught, taking more risks, and just getting frustrated by the congestion low speeds cause &#8211; </p>
<p>But even moreso than all that, i have always been very doubtful that speeding is even a big cause of crashes at all.</p>
<p>Of course in a number of cases people are speeding when they crash, but this does NOT mean that they crashed BECAUSE they were speeding. It is just so simplistic.</p>
<p>People crash because they arent good drivers, because they arent watching the road etc etc.</p>
<p>This should be plain obvious when we take a look at motorists in europe. I know germany for one doesnt have any speed limit at all. It is pefectly normal for cars to be driving around at 220km/h &#8211; and yet their road toll is lower than ours!!!</p>
<p>if the government is really desperate to make roads safer, and also make more money, they should do what germany does, and just make it REALLY expensive to get a driver licence and have more rigourous testing.</p>
<p>That way they make more money, drivers are of a higher quality, and there is less congestion and pollution!!</p>
<p>solves a lot of problems doesnt it?</p>
<p>It cant really be denied that these days, any encouragement for people to use more public transport is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Herbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 07:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the world was made up of monkeys then how the hell would anyone hold a cup of tea properly?

the answer is they couldnt because we would be too unco-ordinated. and if you just cant tell the difference then it doesnt matter because thats all i want to know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the world was made up of monkeys then how the hell would anyone hold a cup of tea properly?</p>
<p>the answer is they couldnt because we would be too unco-ordinated. and if you just cant tell the difference then it doesnt matter because thats all i want to know</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 06:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite simply the best article I have read in a motoring website .. ever.

Thank you for giving me some faith knowing there are those out there who know the real issue and are willing to speak their mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite simply the best article I have read in a motoring website .. ever.</p>
<p>Thank you for giving me some faith knowing there are those out there who know the real issue and are willing to speak their mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To whom it may concern, 
 may I please have permission to (at least briefly)
 take my eyes off the speedometer so that I may
 watch the traffic around me. I want to live&quot;.

Yours sincerely
C.Watts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To whom it may concern,<br />
 may I please have permission to (at least briefly)<br />
 take my eyes off the speedometer so that I may<br />
 watch the traffic around me. I want to live&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely<br />
C.Watts</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the enforcrement &quot;by stealth&quot; &amp; hiding speed cameras etc that the police use nowadays, i find solice using my own stealth methods: RADAR DETECTOR!   If it&#039;s good enough for them....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the enforcrement &#8220;by stealth&#8221; &amp; hiding speed cameras etc that the police use nowadays, i find solice using my own stealth methods: RADAR DETECTOR!   If it&#8217;s good enough for them&#8230;.</p>
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