In the Holden VF Commodore cabin there are just two parts leftover from its Commodore predecessor – the centre console lid and the rear air vents. Everything else is all-new, with Holden designers using “sophisticated” and “rich” buzz words to describe the overhauled design.

“We really wanted to maintain that horizontal, wide, sporty feel,” tells Holden design manager, John Field.

“The price of place in the centre stack is the eight-inch colour touchscreen, and while it’s in easy reach of both occupants, it’s buried into the instrument panel to minimise glare and reflection.”

Field explains that by putting the switches underneath the touchscreen on an angle it takes up less vertical space on the dashboard, and “also keeps the instrument panel very slim and low profile.”

Although all the buttons are illuminated soft white, and there are ice-blue LED detailing, the plastics quality isn’t perfectly matched. On the Calais V show car, alcantara covers the middle area of the dashboard and door inserts, but the soft-touch door trim meld into a hard, textured upper dash surface that feels less than premium.

“Really we were focusing very intently on the customer focus zones, so the touch zones and the visual zones,” says Field. “We put all the attention through … the door trims where the customer can actually touch it.

“[The dash top] being hard plastic is really a more functional area, it’s not something the customers are really attuned to, we don’t think they’re going to be offended by it or upset. It has a nice, low-gloss, soft-touch finish, so it shouldn’t be a real issue for us.

“[Cost is] always a consideration of course, but from the customer point of view it’s not something they’re really that focused on.”

Although Holden wanted to lift plastics quality, focus was also on improving ergonomics compared with the outgoing VE, particularly in the area of heating, ventilation and air conditioning  (HVAC) controls.

With the VE, users need to canvas the digital display shared with the audio controls to see what the settings were. With VF, Holden moved the climate control temperature readout inside each of the rotary switches – one on the left for passenger temperature, and on the right for driver.

“This is really based on customer feedback and ‘best ergonomic practice’ … to put the readout where the control is,” says interior design manager Joe Rudolph.

“As well as that, there are now LED indicators in each of the [directional ventilation] buttons, so that you know instantly the state that the HVAC system is in, and that’s [also] come from global ergonomics best practice and customer feedback both locally and globally.”

Previously, the VE had an up/down toggle to scroll between the different directions of air flow. The VF has four buttons each surrounding the central fan control, for face-level, face- and feet-level, feet-level and demist and feet-level.

Adds design director Andrew Smith (above): “what it means is that you don’t rely on the display, you can rely soley on this [the dial] and know where you are. That’s been one of the complaints that we’ve had not just in Australia but globally … people actually getting lost with HVAC.”

Of the HVAC location, John Field (below) says that “the HVAC controls are visually separated to minimise confusion between the two controls [HVAC and audio], and the centre stack is very fast and laid over to achieve a bit of speed just like they do on the exterior.

“With the instrument panel actually floating over that feature, almost like a shingled roof tile. Apart from giving it a nice, floating, lightweight appearance, it’s also one of those qualities that … desensitises the interface between these upper and lower [climate control] instrument panel components. So it really was a win-win there.”

Other changes compared with VE include a smaller-diameter steering wheel – down 7mm to 370mm – following “feedback that the current [steering] wheel is a little on the large side” according to Field, while electric-adjustment of steering height and tilt was not considered necessary – “I wouldn’t say it was seriously looked at for this project. Perhaps in this market it’s not such a customer want.”

The steering wheel hub looks like that of the Cruze but is actually its own part, but the cruise control and audio control switches are, however, shared. The new transmission shifter is “similar to lots of other forthcoming products coming into our showrooms”.

Traditional Commodore identifiers have been flicked – the bootlid button has for the first time in generations been moved from the glovebox to the driver’s door; the front-side air vents move onto the dash from the driver’s door for the first time since the 1993 VR; and the power window switches have relocated from the centre console to the door trims for the first time ever.

“The relocation of the [power window] switches has opened up a lot of space to put some very useful cupholders,” explained interior design manager Joe Rudolph. “Also we’ve been able to locate storage both behind and in front of the shifter, and that’s really in response to customer feedback as to what they would like from their console…

Apparently, it was fleet buyers who dictated the need to have a bootlid button in the glovebox for security reasons, and Holden no longer thought that approach was valid with the VF. The relocation of the air vents to the dash is a “more efficient way of doing things” according to Rudolph.

Finally, perhaps the biggest complaint about the VE Commodore has been attended to, but not completely altered – the thickness of the A-pillars which reduce driver vision around corners.

“The A-pillar trims themselves are new, and we did in fact manage to shave a few millimeters [4mm], as much as possible, off the front…” tells John Field.

“It’s a small improvement.”




  • O123

    its amazing what holden can do with such a small budget yet the malibu would have had a budget in the billions and its interior looks rubbish.

    • Zaccy16

      just like the Colorado! so much more money spent on it compared to the bt50/ranger and its rubbish!

      • Aaronorris

        You, my friend, are a tool.

        • Chris Buckley

          Well, it’s not rubbish…but when you compare it to it’s competitors… it’s pretty terrible, particularly the interior. 

    • Ari

      As a Toyota man I am really impressed with what Holden have done with the VF and it should turn around the fortunes for Holden, great to see

      • Assman

        Anything would impress over a Toyota

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQN7ATJHCD6PBUTSTK6GQYOE7Y R10 RRK

        As a Toyota man…LOL, that’s the bottom of the pile mate, of course anything would raise your eyebrow !

        That’s a great car overall, but I can only assume it’s not in the same class as Merc, Audi or BMW. A good VW Passat or VW Phaeton competitoor me thinks !

      • $29896495

        There are a lot of GM stooges commenting

    • Saborna

      No fan of GM cars and dont like this new model. Interior layout look hideous. GM have never ever since 1948 produced a decently finished car. Holden fans and fleet operators may love it , but not for me. Had one as company car and it was traded it after nine months due to too many ongoing problems - as was the rest of the fleet.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQN7ATJHCD6PBUTSTK6GQYOE7Y R10 RRK

        They are domestic/ general fleet cars. I have owned a Vauxhall Astra (UK) as dull and boring the car was it was one great workhorse. 

  • Shak

    All in all, as a whole package the new interior combined with all that new standard tech really has lifted the game for large cars and Holden as a whole. 

    • Assman

      Lifted the game for Holden. That’s it. Still at the bottom of class.

  • Zaccy16

    Design is a huge improvement but still low quality, how hard can it be to use quality plastics? vw can do it in the polo which is half the price of this!

    • Shak

      How can you tell? That is a journos impression. Get in one yourself and then judge. 

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JQN7ATJHCD6PBUTSTK6GQYOE7Y R10 RRK

        I think Zaccy is correct. You don’t need to sit in a car to inspect the quality of the plastics, this can be often visible with experience. Whilst there are some cheap interior plastics, overall it seems on the good side to me !

        This is a good VW Phaeton or VW Passat competitor but would not touch the E-class, 5er or A6 !

    • Declan Collins

      Wow Zaccy when did you sit in the car?

      If I read the Journo right, the materials in use are premium except right up the top of the dash. Why in the world would you be stroking there anyway? 

      Do you have a stroke fetish? Do you walk around your house stroking every wall and lining?

      You must have an impressive paint job to make you feel comfortable at home.

      • Sumpguard

          I think we all know what Zaccy strokes.

      • Zaccy16

        that wasn’t the journo talking it was the holden man!

        • Declan Collins

          Regardless, point stands.

          • Assman

            Who names their kid Declan? High on something? Suggest a name change.

          • Declan Collins

            Seriously go that low? must drive a volkswagon.

          • Barry

            Declan parents probably come from  Ireland.Unlike yourself Assman,Declan has made some excellent comments on the VF Commodore in the last few days.

          • Darryl

            What’s yours? I assume that’s your nickname not your real name.

    • Captain Nemo®™

      Zuppy the Polio has some of the cheapest and nastiest plastics in the world.   And as others have said when did you sit in the new VF?

      • Zaccy16

        you must have never been inside a polo because the interior quality as said by all motoring journos is best in class, real brussed aluminium, whole dash board made out of one peace of soft touch plastic etc…

        • Captain Nemo®™

          Had a few loan Polios all made of cheap nasty African plastic.  Don’t believe everything journos say, Polio is still a nasty POS.

          • Ghj

             How come you never bring this up with the journos in the articles that about Polo that say the plastics are good? In fact, I rarely if ever, see you commenting on any article, rather you lower yourself into pointless personal slurs against Zaccy.

          • Zaccy16

            Exactly! Captain doesn’t believe every motoring journo that has ever drove the polo! It was wheels car of the year, drive car of the year, world car of the year etc etc…

          • ZaccyexactlyIQ16

            Exactly exactly exactly exactly!!!!!!

          • Captain Nemo®™

            Gjh i comment because Zuppy is wrong 99% of the time with his comments. Anyone that drives a VeeDud has no right to bag any other make of car. Scrolling through his previous comments shows he is kind of obsessed with GMH particularly Commodores. And maybe Zuppy can tell us why when a journo heaps praise on a non VeeDud car he still feel the need to bag them with his uninformed comments. 

          • Captain Nemo®™

             Disagreeing with journos usually results in your comment being deleted especially on VeeDud stories so why bother. 

        • Avirga

          I’m a technician for vw the quality is up to s..t

          • Avirga

            I work on euro car a lot there not as good and reliable as people think.Often have more problems than local built cars

          • $29896495

            Interestingly even the Germans are noticing the drop in quality of VW and its affiliates. The German car show Drive It are pointing out the change a lot now when they test a VW. 

          • New

            and the servicing for VW is huuuuge $$$$

    • Pro346

      Why bring up VW this is a Holden story:-)

      • Luke Brinsmead

        Exactly

      • Force-15

        Because it’s CarAdvice. People are always hell-bent on pointing out the superiority/inferiority of Volkswagens here.

    • Aussie and Proud

      Excuse me so you have sat in the car ………. no ……………you are a tool
      Why do you and your other tool mates always bag Aussie cars particularly Holden’s

      • Zaccy16

        i actually haven’t been bagging the vf completely, if you read my previous comments i said it was an improvement over the rubbish ve but still not there yet

        • Zaccy16

          Exactly!!!!!

        • Chad

          you know what you remind me of is the average american….one of the latest JD Power studies stated the Americans perceived VW,s to be the best built cars in the States, then you turn to the study on actual reliability of, I think it was just over 40 cars brands, the VW came in at 35th I think it was. You are just a sucker to their good advertising campaign. their cars like so many other euro are no better than offerings from the rest of the world. Including the latest commodore

          • $29896495

            That same reliability report gave GM a bad review as well. Speaking of falling for advertising campaigns – Holden have people snowed in this country too. People will believe just about anything that comes from GMH, with out question.

        • $29896495

          I get your point Zaccy, it is a much better looking dash and centre console than the previous car, which was designed to match the Astra at the time, and now looks really ordinary.

  • JD

    Wow stunning, and classy for a commodore.

    • Barry

      If I didn’t know what car I was looking at.I would of said Mercedes or Bmw or Lexus.

      • CrappedInMyDoor

        That’s going a bit far. Looks like a Nissan murano interior from 5-6 years back. No wow factor.

      • Golfmother

        Stop choofing barry its only a crummerdore , miles behind lexus or euro interiors .

        • Damian

          I find your comment to be rather distasteful, given that for Calais V money, you’d be lucky to get into a BMW 318i or Mercedes C180.  Any Euro that is comparable to the Calais V in performance and size is priced north of $100k.  It doesn’t take a huge amount of objectivity to see the Holden’s value equation. 

          • Golfmother

            You kidding , no mention of its economy in your story , and thats want people look at .

            Its still overweight and too large , and the bogan image scares prestige buyers away .

          • Chad

            their is nothing over weight about the new one, the current sv6 is lighter than the current BMW 535i and the new one is lighter again, to large? driving long distances or taller than 6′ they are perfect. As for to bogan image i think its just people beginning to think they are to good for australian cars, if china buys our resources, australians get a little wealthier and look what they turn into..Australians should wake up to them selves

          • $29896495

            You don’t need a giant car to do those things such as comfortable long drives or if you are over six feet. BMW 5 series is very big, by the way.

            But just a point to this argument that you and others have raised, So for urban travel you have a different car, and you bring out the Commodore or what ever every time you want to take a country drive? Not practical for most people. 

          • Damian

            If you want economy, buy a Prius.  If you want a combination of practicality, power, dynamics and value for money, the Falcadores make a very compelling case for themselves. 

            The whole argument of ‘too large’ has no traction given that everyone’s needs are different.  The BMW 5-series, Mercedes Benz E-Class and Audi A6 are pretty much on par with the Commodore in terms of size and weight.  Nobody seems to complain about these vehicles being too big or heavy?

          • $29896495

            OK Damien, they’re to big. But really the point is the Falcon and Commodore are volume cars, the cars you mention are elitist cars. V

            Volume big car the sales are going down and the mid size cars the sales are going up. You don’t need to be genius to figure the pattern out. Now for the manufacturers to survive they have to answer the market.

            By the way, SUVs are a furthy  they have taken the place of station wagons for the most part.

        • Barry

          Perhaps not to that level.But even you must acknowledge Golfmother the interior is a missive step up.At least semi premium,something like Vw.

      • $29896495

        Come on Barry? That’s going a bit far!

      • Poison_Eagle

         I am waiting to see it in person before drawing any conclusions. For example, with an Audi, one of the interior drawcard is the way the buttons feel when you press them. I hope Holden has mastered this. It looks good so far though.

  • Guest

    Wow, I am actually surprised at how good the interior of this Commodore looks. I was expecting just a small tweak here and there, but a near-complete overhaul of the VE has just worked wonders. 

    • $29896495

      It’s got to last four years.  We’re actually over due for replacement cars from both manufacturers.

  • http://twitter.com/NRD80Y NRD80Y

    Electric handbrake!

  • Poison_Eagle

    Looks like some great details in the interior, no panel gaps, good textures etc. One thing I like is the seat ventilation button under the vents, which I presume means seat cooling! If its just heating then fail, but I doubt it.

  • Sumpguard

    This is very well styled sedan. The interior is very classy.

        Well done Holden. If this is a prelude to the ALL new commodore in 2017 we are in for a pleasant surprise.

    • AJ

      Heated seats as well…

      • Shak

        Which is a first for the Commodore i believe. The Cruze has had them for a while though. 

        • Andrew M

          Yeah I was just thinking the other day when the skin peeled off my face when I got into the car that I need heated seats too ;)

          • $29896495

            yeah a real necessity on a 45 degree day.

          • Tony Abbotts No 1 fan

            Does that logic also apply to cars having heaters?

            Moron 

          • New

            Exactly. Great for QLD…. what about cooling seats like some of the other Euro brands?

          • Tony Abbotts No 1 fan

            Obviously you have never used them in winter when it’s 0 or below, you wouldnt be so cynical then.

            A moronic comment   

    • $29896495

      Yep 4 cylinder FWD rename of the Malibu or something like that.

  • nugsdad

     This is now a world class car, it has always had it’s typical Australian
    strengths and now with a level of sophistication.  The interior is
    fantastic.
    Say what you like but why wouldn’t you buy this for $50k
    sell it two years later for $25-$30 and get a new one. The Alternative
    is go German, Starts at $90k option it up with wheels tyres and a radio,
    pay $120k hang on to it for 4 years ( you got bored with it after 18
    months) and trade it in then for $40k.
    Calling this a bogan car is an
    egotistical comment with no basis, but the german brands love it so you
    pay twice as much for their offerings and get half the car.
    Seriously
    lets support Australia. When I go to Korea at least 90% of the cars on
    their roads are Korean, lets show some national spirit.

    • 12354wd

      Surely you need more than some photos and comments from the designer for you to decide whether it’s world class or not?

      By the way, German cars, as with all cars, do come standard with wheels, tyres and radio.  It would be quite hard to sell a car without wheels and tyres.

      • $29896495

        Yeah its a big parrot call that one. It’s at least the standard of the yanks. Which to be perfectly honest, isn’t saying much. If all goes according to the US web sites we’ll now be having a massive amount of recalls too.

      • nugsdad

        sarcasm is the highest form of wit

    • Avirga

      I am largely involved with new European cars and you couldn’t have said it better that’s exactly what happens

  • http://profiles.google.com/macca007 Shane Mc Grath

    Wow, Not the usual Commodore look. As with most of them at first it takes a bit of getting used to when you see them, After a while then it sinks in and you love the look, This is the same.
    Those tail lights are fresh, But I am sure it will look decent on the SS and above.  Can’t wait to see what HSV can do with the clubby. May just be tempted to upgrade from my VY SS with all the new tech in this new car.

  • DAVIDZ

    No folding back seat, FAIL
    No bench 3 seater Ute, FAIL
    No powertrain improvements, FAIL
    Far too expensive, FAIL
    But still better than say a i45 orphan :-)

    • JD

      DAVIDZ’s comment, WORTHLESS

      You sound like a VW fanboi

      • Golfschwein

        And he’s putting it everywhere.

      • Dansubs

        He sounds like he is home from school.

    • Golfschwein

      Got a pool? Go for a swim, or something.

    • Dansubs

      Thats your fourth cut and paste of exactly the same (un)informed comments. You missed one story by the way on this site, much in the way you missed the point of posting an opinion is to be first informed and then express it. Clearly you are not as things such as powertrains, the prices and the utes details have not been revealed.

    • duh

      Sportwagon gets foloing back seat if you want that
      bench seats are from the 70′s and dont work with passenger airbags 
      they aren’t talking about powetrains yet 
      prices are still not released so how do u know its to expensive? 

      • DAVIDZ

        YOU BETTER INFORM FORD ABOUT THE FALCON 3 SEATER BENCH SEAT UTE WITH FULL FRONTAL AIRBAGS THEN……

        • Darryl

          Writing in caps does not make you clever. I don’t see the Falcon ute at the top of the sales charts. You better snap one up then, before they go to ute heaven.

    • Captain Nemo®™

       Well you can cross number 1 off your list Car point has more photos and there is clearly a folding back seat.

    • Darryl

      Shut up

  • Fairlane

    Well done on the interior Holden looks classy

    Still Aussie car haters will find something to winge about,I say stuff them.

  • Golfschwein

    Well, this looks terrific inside and out. With as yet unannounced drivetrain improvements, it could put the Commodore back on the reckoning table for a lot of folks. It will me.

    • Declan Collins

      I was seriously considering picking one up in 2 years time, but now, I don’t think I can wait that long.

    • guest

       I was dreading the re-style – but this is much better than I expected. It looks quite good and the interior is very classy. It has some nice gadgets too.

  • Mdaw4156

    is there to be vf caprise

    • guest

       Yes, it was spotted in one of the images released where they were modelling the VF “Sport” model which we now know as the SS. Only a small portion of it seen in the background, but it’s clearly the Caprice.

  • Gibwater

    Where can I take lessons on how to operate the touchscreen whilst trying to drive at the same time? Cars are not offices.The controls need to be quick,and obvious.If not,they’re too distracting,and even possibly a hazard. However,the interior presents well,though the old console looks out of its depth. 

  • F1orce

    It looks great!

    • BeemerMan

      Remember its only a parts bin of recycled parts from other models. Will rattle and fall to bits in no time. Good ‘ol, “she’ll be right mate”.

      • F1orce

        But the interior looks of high quality..

        Soft touch, well designed and executed.

        • SuperChar

          I agree F1orce, I reckon is looks alright on the inside.  Let’s hope it does live up to the expectations and quality is up there.  I would hate to be a Holden salesperson in the next few months trying to flog off the old models though.

      • $29896495

        He does have a a point!

  • Kieran

    I was looking at replacing my VE wagon, in which I have had a number of near misses because of cars, cyclists and pedestrians obscured by the overly thick A-pillars.
    However, the VF’s 4mm of the A-pillar trims is just not good enough.
    To improve the appalling visibility, the Commodore needed higher strength steel in much slimmer A-pillars.

    Guess I will be looking elsewhere for a vehicle I can actually see out of properly.  

    • Shak

      Or you know, you could’ve have maybe taken one for a drive before you bought one and noticed this. 

    • Darryl

      HQ? Slim A pillars there, just don’t roll it.

    • $29896495

      The yanks have had big complaints about it too. Trouble is it’s a big car, something has to support it when it falls over. Maybe when they’ve re-badged the Cruze or Malibu to a commodore you’ll find it better.

  • Noely

    I’m sorry but I wanna say I’ve seen this interior before, 2013 TOYOTA Crown which debutet at the end of 2012. and the head light also.

    • $29896495

      true to

    • Poison_Eagle

       Crown is a bit more adventurous in the styling department, groovy pink colour and all.

  • Tom

    Ford will have to thoroughly re-work the whole exterior aesthetic, interior fitment and/or materials, for the nameplate to have any future hope of survival, much less prosperity – *and* as unfortunate a fact as it is. Because, under the skin, they’re mechanically brilliant and greatly superior to their blood enemies…

    I’ve always preferred a more traditionalist philosophy to building cars… but Falcon is now decidedly provincial in some key respects.

    When the VF hits the market in the next few months, I just hesitate to think of what might happen…!

  • Hung Low

    Great improvement, it has definitely exceeded my expectations. The steering wheel looks great as ever but I do see an issue with the Nissan style controls under the display for user friendliness whilst driving, especially when dealing with apps etc. The Calais is a great representation of the Commodore and they need to thin out that cruddy Omega image.

  • Save It For The Track

    Save the electronic park brake BS for the Calais. There should be a proper handbrake in the SS at least.

  • Elitist

    Ive had friends who worked for these companies testing their parts to destruction and they tell me they always opt for the cheaper solution that is to last for 4 years and no more.
    One of these friends now left and is working for pro drive.

    Just let these cars die and lets have VW, Fiat, Peugeot etc setup here and give aussies jobs they can be proud of.

    • jekyl & hyde

      you forget where you are (and maybe you need to go back there). how long to you think a dsg auto tranny lasts in a vw?

      you real life alternative’s ( no proudness there) could be the likes of great wall,mahindra,chery,proton…

      • Elite

        What are you saying your more Australian than me?
        Funny how people are tough on the net.

    • Weegena

      We all know that if bmw could just import at a straight exchange rate that they would be comparable in price to falcadores.any one with any sense of value would buy the safer car.
      The design changes like electronic brakes are copied straight from the French.
      The dash is copied from hyundai. The flowing design holden is so proud of is there to make it easier to build for right and left hand markets. The Koreans copied it from Mercedes.
      Even if people don’t like this car or that brand because of whatever reason a sense of fair play dictates a live and let live attitude. This is Australia not tyrannical north Korea

  • Luke Brinsmead

    Mmm…suede. The interior is ok…for an Aussie car.

  • GXP317

    window switches where they belong finally!

  • GregR

    With a few exceptions – virtually all the comments made in this, and other recent items, appear to be authored by school kids. The language and grammar being typical of those who seem to spend their day ‘glued’ to a mobile phone. 
    If you are indeed ‘grown-up’ guys, try to spend less time insulting each other (just like teenage girls do) and concentrate on offering a coherent opinion of your own and overlook anything anyone else might say. The adult subscribers would be interested in your views BUT we are not interested in having to cope with ‘slanging-matches’. So my request is grow-up and stick to the point.
    For what it is worth, my opinion is thus – whether it be a pure-blooded GM, an Opel, a Vauxhall or a Holden this car is, as it should be, an evolved improvement of the current model. I hope it is successful for Australia’s sake and the folks who work at Holden. 
    Finally I would offer up a point for discussion viz.,there has been lots of ‘chuntering’ about abandoning larger engined cars in favour of 4 cylinder models; but I would like to see more manufacturers developing 2litre 6 cylinder engines. There are those of us who would be happy to economise by ‘downsizing’ but are reluctant to relinquish the smoothness of a multi-cylinder engine. Any views?

    • Golfmother

      Waste of time 2 litre 6cyl , worse torque than the current V6 crummers , no turbo 4cyl is the way to go , tons of torks with economy ie eco boost .

      Have driven my fair share of BMW  sixes and i can tell you they are the masters and their 2 litre was creamy smooth , but gutless .

      In this tank turbo 2.8l 6 or a 2litre turbo 4 .

      • GregR

        Well GM its many years since I did any competitive driving but I guess that if you are choosing an engine for track use you will use different criteria to make a choice. In the main I drive open cars and, over the last three or four decades, the one which stands out for me was the 320ci of 2001 (it actually had a 2.2 capacity). Admittedly that was in the UK and I lived in rural Cornwall at the time, however the driving pleasure I derived from throwing that around the lanes has never been bettered by subsequent larger engined versions. Its all a matter of personal choice after all. My point was that I find 4pot engines ‘clunky’ and with the top down the sound of ’6′ is almost as good as my late 420SL. It’s always ‘horses for courses’. I had a Triumph Vitesse back in the sixties, which had a 2litre six and although not the most reliable car, even though new, it rattled a great deal but I valued it at the time. I had a 911 once and was told that Porsche were considering a small capacity flat six not sure if it ever materialised. Unlike some of the posters here I am not a technocrat just someone who likes cars. However although I may not know the technical specifications of a ‘bees-bum’ I know what cars and engines please me. Hey.Ho.

        • Golfmother

          Pretty sure the 320i we had in oz in the 80′s was 1990cc , might be wrong , next up 2300cc .

          After owning a 535i and a 735i  it was certainly a lot different to drive a 320i , but silky smooth sounding .

          The vitesse motor was it the TR6 motor ? , nice smooth job too .

          Cheers

  • peddy.d

    ok i don’t know why anyone hasn’t picked this up yet but one of the pictures in this article shows the interior of what looks to be the SS V (SS logo is printed on the top left side of the dashboard). And it looks like the actual car in grey is behind that designer smiling in the photo. Looks like VF SSV will be more understated with a rear lip spoiler, and the rear headlights are blacked out like the current series. Looks not bad IMO

    • nugsdad

       good pick up

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    As a Toyota man…LOL, that’s the bottom of the pile mate, of course anything would raise your eyebrow !

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