just so you know,the astra belt change is now 10yr/150k.only early ts was 60k,then 90k.and the indicator stalk is now right side,unlike focus…

Talking of depreciation throw in the fact that say a Mondeo bought for AU$35,000 sold in 3yrs with 57,000 has lost say $20k. But a BMW 3 series bought for $50K sold in 3yrs with same mileage has lost oooh $20K. I know what I would rather drive. upmarket everytime. (typical UK prices used by the way).

Biggest costs, financing, depreciation and fuel.

Since Hyundai cars have a 5 year warranty then only servicing costs need to be counted not repairs and they could both be VERY high and still not affect the final result.

Again, anyone who judges Hyundai by the old Excel, egt your head out of wherever it is, and go in with an open mind and try the newer cars out. You might be pleasantly surprised!

Cmon Hyundai capitalise on this!!!, slap the big T to put the quality back into their cars..

go jump in that and tell me there are no ties to the old’n days hyundai attitude of packing to together a cheap car.

at least a plus for hyundai is that they sell them for what they are worth unlike toyota

On the other hand, VW perceived quality is somehow ranked very highly. Partly due to their ‘German’ origins. In Europe, though, it is a very mainstream brand; perhaps innovative, like most well resourced German manufacturers. Unfortunately, quality has suffered as cars are mass produced with cheaper components and outsourcing. Their focus seems to have shifted to quantity rather than quality. Kind of like Hyundai’s early attitude to their sales and marketing. I own a current VW, which was bought new, and have had so many quality problems. I know it could be an isolated problem (with myself just being an unlucky one) , but quality surveys and owner reviews indicate there is a more deep seated problem.

My point is, reputations are very hard to break, whether good or bad. Unfortunately, for Hyundai, they will need to continually show they have the innovation and quality for at least a decade, before people’s perceptions change.

NM, sure the i30 is a massive leap forward for hyundai, but with the i30 excluded, richo and sam couldnt be closer to the truth with every word they said.

Yes they are good and reliable cars (no one has said otherwise), but they are basic. Yes they are good cars, but they are certainly no engineering masterpiece.

the i30 is one hyundai that i have not driven as of yet, but i still cant see it as having the engineering qualities to match others such as the Golf or Focus, and no review has hinted they are close in that area.

Im not a hyundai basher either, i respect what they offer and the audience they try and target.
*whisper* i feel what i said is fair because there is a hyundai sitting in my other driveway *end whisper*

A friend has a Getz, still very cheap and basic. The silly bugger went and paid full price for it walking out with a debt of just over 20K!!!!
The hyundai dealer down the road has about 10 Getzs lined up on the foot path with fluro paint advertising them for 9K drive away with very low k’s.
imagine what you would get for a trade….4K??

track the 2nd hand price of a competitors vehicle and im sure you will find they fare a lot better.

anyway, back to the quality/experience stuff…..
another friend has a Barina, and i can safely say the Barina, YES BARINA is much better quality.

I think you will find that the biggest costs the NRMA considers is purchase price (for loan interest) and depreciation. Since Hyundais are cheap then this cost is very low so they win.

ACTUAL running costs would probably be higher then a Corolla.

People will then say they depreciate less so that is good too, Well maybe but if you start low and have higher then average depreciation the $ loss is still low.

Still good result for Hyundai.

Seriously trying to workout running costs whilst quoting a resale value these days is just plain stupid. Also throw into the mix that these figures only account for a small portion of the population as more used cars are sold to private buyers, and then they are starting to look at cam belt services and such and then the tables can be completely reversed. ie Getz has a cam belt at 90k, Astra @ 60k (IIRC same with Barina) whilst Fiesta is 170k & Focus is 240k. Sorry but I just get p’d with reading half a’d surveys that don’t give the correct info to the greater portion of the public who would really benefit from it.