ahhhhhaaahhh lol you better hope the alian teams dont win b4 fords do ahahaha
Declan
Stealing a bit of the VF’s thunder. It no longer seems as important now.
Golfschwein
I think this announcement is good for VF.
huwtm
It was never important, no more than grill tail lights and headlights, maybe a little tinkering inside. The idea to get it to the end of it’s life.
MisterZed
Care factor = zero.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
That’s the second automotive site you’ve posted that on within minutes of the release. Just sayin’ lol.
MisterZed
So?
Pro346
You care…
Fredsmith
A LOT
Garrywhopper
And your a gayarse also
Golfmother
Gary floppy back with your filth .
MisterZed
No, I don’t. I just commented because I want to let people know that I don’t care.
DAVIDZ
we dont care about u either
“go home yank”
freeway
What you are saying is kind of like when fellas say they are over their ex and go over it over and over again, until everyone is sick of it and tell them to shut-up about their ex, because clearly the aren’t over the ex.
ELKMoz
Lucky you clicked the article, read it, then posted nothing important.
MisterZed
Nobody who posts a comment on any of these articles writes anything of importance. Does someone writing “great news” give you anymore insight than my post does?
ELKMoz
The article told me that there’s a commodore after the vf. Your post told me that your a troll. So yeah, a little more insight.
huwtm
Here’s my insight, they better shrink the next one, no matter what they base it on, most likely an Opel I would say by his comments. If they keep trying to push the BIG car, they’ll just make things worse. And he did confirm that Holdens are NOT designing in this country. Good on him for that.
ELKMoz
I don’t buy the “nobody buys big cars” argument. SUV’s are insanely popular for some reason and most of those are bigger than the commodore. Besides, Holden makes small cars too.
huwtm
Elk, here’s new, people buy SUV because they sit high, you know, like they are on a ladder and get to peer OVER traffic. One of the major reasons woman love them.
Fairlane
You better tell that to Mazda as they have made the new Mazda 6 the size of the Commodore.
So do you think Mazda should shrink the next Mazda 6 model.Or does that just apply to Australia built vehicles.
huwtm
Fairlane – as you know, they are still using the Smaller version as a station wagon. Unfortunately, Mazda have done that to replace the US 6. How that will work here remains to be seen, but it is a full size car. It isn’t an opinion you know, the size issue, look at the sales figures. They tell the story. It’s all big cars.
JoeR_AUS
Hmm, the Mazda 6 is longer than a Falcon. If the VF is shorter than the VE by 30mm than the Mazda 6 will be larger than a VF. The new Mazda 6 will become the first mid size car larger than a large size car!
JoeR_AUS
Perhaps Holden will take the Buick LaCrosse as it comes with 2.4l, V6 and 4wd to the next generation Commodore
JoeR_AUS
I really doubt you read what people say here other than replies to your nonsensical comments
DAVIDZ
zyk has always been a d/h, way back from aus.cars days
Tom
You also said that on carsales, you obviously care.
Skybreak
Holden employees will care – they will very glad to hear that production, and thus their jobs, will continue beyond 2016. The employees of the other companies that supply goods and services to Holden will also care, and the families of all those people will care.
Holden fans will care. People buying Commodores that have been exported to Brittan, South Africa, Brazil, New Zealand, the Middle East, and America and who might want to upgrade to the newer model will care.
I don’t currently own a Holden (have had two previously) and I care. This is very good news for Australian manufacturing.
Golfmother
So warm and fuzzy , give us a break , fat large SEDANS in the lower end of the market are history , it will be FWD , spun off a yanky or german floor pan selling about 2000 units a month , assembled on OZ .
freeway
Did you read the article?
Golfmother
I once spun off a yanky, his name was Tyrone
Poison_Eagle
Whats wrong with a german floorplan? you seem to lick them.
JoeR_AUS
there is only one zero on here
Slmccarthy
Wanker
Tex
Fantastic news! Let’s hope they slim it down just a little – I think if the Commodore sized down towards the mid-sized segment and remained RWD they could be onto a winner!
Rocket
If not it will be a total waste of tax payers money.
freeway
Conversely if they do, it will be an awesome investment of taxpayers money huh Rocket?
All comes down to the wheels that spin under power and a tape measure for Rocket. Holden you have been warned!
Sam
Sounds like a long way to say that the 2017 Commodore will be Commodore by name only. It will be a completely different type of vehicle and unrecognisable as a Commodore.
Roadtard
Sam, Commodore used to be a re-worked Opel. Almost anything could be badged Commodore.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
Must be mid/large size and RWD with major local input.
huwtm
must be mid size – looks like no to minimal local input.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
I was referring to what constitutes the Commodore name plate. I agree though, the next model has to be mid size.
JoeR_AUS
closer to the original Commodores as the VB-VL is smaller than a Mazda 3
Backyard Enterprise
What was the VG?
Mick Dunn
The VP?? ute. One of the utes anyway.
Dave
The VN ute.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
This is great news! The alpha platform would be a fantastic choice. At least Goofmother has something to complain about beyond 2017 : )
Barry
Yes rolfmother and mr ed will be happy.Holden are far from done in Australia,the fight back starts now.
Golfmother
Brilliant stratergy , assemble from bits shipped in from US the chevrolet impala , FWD of course because thats what the market wants and badge it crummerdore , clever boys , always thinking , its slimmer, its smaller its cheap to make , just a bit of suspension tweeking .
Barry
FWD is not what the Australian large sedan market wants.When your Golf in the service centre I recon you drive around in a Hyundai i45.
Golfmother
PASSAT .
Golfmother
Faggat I’m mean I like driving them
Repus008
AH you like driving Vws well you are easily pleased he he he he he he he he he he he he hehe he he he he h
huwtm
The vast majority of cars of all sizes are FWD now. It’s just the way it is. Rear drive will become a niche performance car alternative. It’s simply cheaper to do a FWD, and that’s the bottom line.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
It’s not that people want FWD, there’s no choice if they want to downsize. Affordable mid size, rear driver would sell very well, which is hopefully what the next Commodore will be.
JoeR_AUS
perhaps not but if 4WD is optional than the base model could be FWD, much like SUV’s
Golfmother
Crummer falcoon I like saying these word, and also the word boy toucher durh durh
Golfmother
Wow gary floppy tries to string words together .
huwtm
Impala is the same size as the commodore – fail. If they are smart they’ll go back to Opel and nick one of their designs. As the Americans did with the Buick LaCross
Golfmother
It will be a wait and see game . if the VF is a flop , then the numbers will mean FWD , malabore or impala , maybe the insignia , again FWD .
Poison_Eagle
The question is, U MAD BRO?
Golfmother
Toxic budgie getting excited , of course it will be a small RWD australia only sedan , not , economics dictate it wont be that , with a shrinking large sedan market the yanks are not going to throw more money away unless juliar creates a bogan tax to subsidise the car industry , moight be a down market caddyshak .
Golfmother
I just hope Juliar doesn’t make a woofer tax or I’ll be broke see Im I the top bracket of fagness
Zaccy16
just like the s**t cruze, not made by aussies at all just parts assembled here from korea
freeway
As an exercise Zaccy16, list the parts that are made in Australia? You do know them right?
Save It For The Track
A 4 cylinder turbo motor would go well in a downsized crummer as well. As long as holden used their usual marketing nouse (selling ice to eskimos, daewoos as Aus cars [crude]), such a 4 cylinder should do better than the woeful effort put in by Ford and thei non marketing of the ecoboost in Falcon.
dave
Good news all round. Puts the pressure on Ford…
freeway
I think you will find Ford were out for the evening and missed the news.
Tom
I think this is great news. There have been countless articles over the past month saying that VF will be the last Commodore, even though they never actually confirmed it. I wonder what Golfmother’s reaction will be? He can no longer use his ‘dead in 2016′ line that’s found in many of his comments.
Martin
Don’t make it any bigger! Stop the model bloat! As a previous owner of a VE it was perfect out in the country but as soon as I moved back to the city, I realised how oversized it was!
Jober As A Sudge
Commodore moving back to mid-size might save it. They seriously need a better V6 in it than the current job or move to a decent turbo 4 (keep the V8…love that engine)
Monk
Downsizing the car might give the current engine a little more liveliness, depending on weight savings…
johnnygmh
Didn’t we go through this same phase before with the slender Opel (rekord) replacing the pig that was a kingswood back in late 70s?
I believe the current commodore is same size or just a bit larger than a kingswood these days too.
Zaccy16
yep the v6 in the ve is a joke, also they need a better tranny (ZF would work well!)
Pro346
Zaccy I wonder if you have actually driven an sv6 …..you seem to think your 1.2lt polo goes hard dare I say an sv6 would feel like rocket ship to you.
Zaccy16
i have driven one actually, 2010 one that the neighbours have, decent amount of power but unrefined and noisy when doing so and a unintelligent auto ruin the experience, very low quality interior too
Zaccy16
I wasn’t allowed to start the the car I just sat in he seat going brooommmm broom eeeehhhhh etc but I’m sure that how it would have been, neeeeehhh noooorrr neeee norrrrr I’m a policeman!!!!
Sumpguard
Too funny. ROFL!
Dave S
Problem is they cant down size it too much since it would then make the Commodore smaller than some ‘midsize cars’. How would you sell the large Commodore when it is smaller than a Camry or Mazda 6 or a Mondeo?
huwtm
That’s just the point, it won’t be a large car any more!
O123
come on alpha platform. i wish the 2.8 turbo was in the VF
Oosh
Think Opel, not Cadillac, Commodore will go back to it’s global VOLUME platform roots.
It’ll be on whatever the successor to Epsilon II is but this time scraping the cash together for a RWD conversion is far less likely.
JoeR_AUS
The 3.6L makes as much power as the 2.8l turbo, so not really a gain.
Robj
Yes, very good for the economy and keeping much enginnering and talent here also. We need long term planning like this…
huwtm
The talent doing the next car is over seas, didn’t you read the story?
Robj
Sure did;
“General Motors has started working on it. The team here is obviously involved in that as they have been in all sorts of things”
Thee will much local engineering work as has always been…..
huwtm
The second sentence is a throw away, to appease the locals, which judging by you it will. The first sentence is the important one of the two. “General Motors” NOT Holden. In fact you should have learn from the up coming Commodore. it was designed as was the current one, in the US.
huwtm
and all previous Commodores were Opels!
Skybreak
Really? I know the VB Commodore was based on an Opel, but which Opel was the VE based on?
Which Opel car used used or uses the “Zeta” platform that was developed by Holden for the VE and the Camaro?
Please enlighten us.
huwtm
Skybreak, you are making a mistake I’ve made, make sure you’ve read the previous TWO comments.
Just to be clear, Holden advertising the car was designed here, we developed the platform etc, is simply propaganda Do you understand what propaganda is?
freeway
Propaganda is what you just wrote huwtm.
You’ve attempted to rewrite history and used selective quotes to try and validate it. Anyone with a passing knowledge of the Australian car industry would find your “facts” horribly misguided at best or intentionally misleading at worst.
You need to be Fox News Australian correspondent, you would fit right in.
Zaccy16
yep it will be like the cruze, assembled here but a rubbish korean product
Zaccy16
Exactly
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
If that’s true, try taking a Commodore to Korea and finding parts for it.
freeway
It could be, but then again it might not be. I guess the difference is I don’t have the inside knowledge and facts that allow me to make an informed comment like that.
Where at GM do you work?
Barry
Or we can take a rubbish African product {polio}..
Golfschwein
VE was done here, a billion bucks worth, remember?
huwtm
It was designed here like all the Opel Commodores were designed here.
freeway
Tip from huwtm. If you are trying to perpetrate a lie, keep repeating it like it was a fact and eventually some people who cant think for themselves will believe you.
Eg VE is German. Australian engineers and facilities dont really exist. Coverup by CIA.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
Huwtm, that’s not accurate, the Zeta architecture was designed in Aus from the ground up. Completely different to the Opel BASED architecture of previous Commodores.
huwtm
Freeway and other Holden fanatics: Look, believe what you want. For years they perpetrated the myth of Holden design with elevations of Opels on the wall and the local boys standing proudly admiring it. And the head line reads, “designed in Australia, for Australians, by Australians”. The same as the fantasy of the current car, not platform, but car. GM design is based in American, anything done here is tinkering at best. Wake up and smell the coffee. You might be right up the posteriora of GMH, but the fact that the current car was first shone in the states should also enlighten you. GM’s publicity machine must be the best in the world, they propagate a lie and you 70 IQs believe what you’re told. I guess the same way you vote. It amazes me how you are willing to read so much extra into a blatant sentence. Read it again!
Poison_Eagle
So what if they were an amalgam of Europe/ US parts? They’ve always been nicely engineered and relaxing to drive. Good cars. If thats not your style, fine. Not everyone has to buy a European car. Judgemental twits like you are a powerful counter argument for that, huwtm. P.S Settle down.
huwtm
Poison you are your nick aren’t you – you’re to stupid to understand that I’m not being judgemental of the car.
I’m pointing out and giving people the opportunity to show how easily led they are by advertising, that if examined, wouldn’t pass the standards practices for accuracy.
I’m am also judgemental of dolts like you though. Grow up and think before you write.
Poison_Eagle
Perhaps if you’d written it more clearly it wouldn’t be so easily misunderstood. Yes Holden’s blatant ‘Australian’ angle borders on false advertising for most of its range, and 99% of customers are unaware of pre VE’s European origins. But VE can legitimately bask in the Australian image (except for the imported engines, Falcon 6 has the edge there). Don’t like being challenged do you. Chill out. We’re all car lovers here:)
freeway
US contributions of course, US exclusively? Evidence please.
huwtm
You’re a real ZEALOT aren’t you. I think you should re-read the article and think this time.
Chris Buckley
Freeway…It’ll be a GLOBAL Car built here.. just like the Cruze was designed elsewhere and slapped together in Australia. The VE Platform is dead after the VF. The next “Commodore will be in Name Only”…. i.e it Could be a re-badged Cadillac for all we know…GM are saying the next Commodore will be as Australian as The Captiva in sourcing and no doubt they will hold onto the basition of publicity that it’s built here…but built is where it ends. It’ll be the equivalent of shipping an Ikea Kitchen here in a box to be assembled locally.
Andrew Whitby
Cough cough cough GENERAL MOTORS IS HOLDEN ! Like the next generation cruze, the Chevorlet SS and the Commodore, Holden Design is one of 3 Major Design centres in the GM empire that designs builds and manufactures cars. Design work is pasts around the centres so design can be carried out 24/7 around the clock 7 days a week.
Its no longer who made the car for what country these days in the globalised world.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
Look at the bigger picture huwtm. We were facing the very real prospect of having no automotive industry in Aus post 2016. We have a high standard of living and high labour costs. Going from a clean sheet Aus only design, back to a heavily modified international platform is a worthwhile and necessary compromise considering the economics of the situation. You also need to appreciate the complexity in designing, engineering, evaluating and tooling up for manufacturing a vehicle. For example, the VT was originally an Opel Omega B, but it was virtually completely redesigned for the local market (by Holden in Australia) and sold very well for it. It was widened, lengthened (some models) and modified to be able to be turned into a ute (among many other changes). It may not be a ground up design, but significant works was still done by Holden in Australia. Also many of those OS design teams have Holden personal in them anyway, that’s how platform sharing works, designed to suit as many markets as possible.
huwtm
Look it wasn’t almost completely redesigned. All of that is irrelevant. I’m not saying close the plants , I’m bringing enlightenment if you like. wake up, you can trace all Holdens, not just Commodores to overseas origins from the very first. I’m not saying because of that, don’t throw them together here, I’m saying to you people stop listening to BS advertising. Like Holden’s Australia day ad. Wake up and look around, don’t be led.
By the way, sticking two inches down the middle does not mean you designed the car. Making alterations to a shell is where the engineers come in. I guess the designers could’ve designed the two inch strip. But the Original Opel shell was not altered. I guess changing a grill, needs some one who can push a pen as well. But as you’ve seen with this current car, the strokes of that CAD pen came from the states. That has nothing to do with keeping an industry going, other than giving people something to build, So how is stating that and bursting your bubble going to interfere with the construction of vehicles?.
Here’s some more history for you, which isn’t Holden. Ford have been building cars in this country longer than GM. By the late sixties Ford Australia were turning the Falcon into a truly Australian designed car. Not one with an imported shell with mods. The designs for the Falcon and it’s completely unique engine have been solely Australian. So if you are going to start crowing defending a company, defend them. American owned but technically more Australian than Holden. (Till the next all new car anyway)
freeway
I’m a Ford guy, but really you have a skewed view of Holden and GM in general.
The Falcon has had and still does have contributions from the US and Europe in design, engineering and all parts of it. Thats not to say it isn’t uniquely Australian and indeed can be argued to be more Australian (VE excepted), but really its not 100% dinky di because the company that makes it is American and the people who had a lot of influence over its design and engineering are from all over world, including some talented Australian engineers.
But you know what a lot of talented engineers in GM got started at Holden and they did a heck of a lot more then tweak German cars as you constantly imply.
Stop trying to rewrite the history of Holden by selectively talking about the bits that paint the picture you only want to tell.
huwtm
It’s not skewed, I mentioned the US company, but primarily what I was saying is that the Falcon 6 is the most Australian car we have. it was primarily designed here. The six cylinder engine is totally unique to Australia. The Falcon body itself, is also unique to this country,(bland as it is).
It’s not re-writing history, it’s fact. If I’m wrong PROVE me wrong, not just with your own words. Show me that there is no original design else where on this planet that was lifted for use here. Which is the point that I’m making. Modifying something is NOT creating!
By the way, I’m not implying I’m stating. I’m not being selective either. Go look, all the info is out there if you care to find it. But as far as I’m concerned, I’ve made my point.
Chris Buckley
Actually Freeway- The Commodore of the 80-90′s was an Opel…The Inline 6 of the 80′s was an RB unit from Nissan and the Ecotec 3.8 was a Buick V6…. the VE’s 3.6 HFV6 was a Global engine with flavours of it used in SAAB, Isuzu and Alfa Romeo. Falcon Platform is one of a Kind, Engine is one of a kind. The Falcon has had little contribution from the US other than Ford Australian designers molding the Falcon to match the International Design Language of Ford. No doubt they sign off on it in the US. Something that can’t be said for GM-Chev is a corporate design language… the Captiva, Commodore, Cruze and Barina have virtually nothing in common save for the Grille (in Chev anyway- )… Thats all my opinion in any case. That said- check Wikipedia… as Huwtm said, all the info is out there. We’re not putting on a spin on it.
Captain Nemo®™
You say the “designs” for the falcon have been solely Australian.
Ummm except for the XD looks almost identical to the euro Ford Granada Mk2 which came out in 77 a full two years before XD.
Front, side profile & even the vent in the C pillar all look like they were copied from the Granada. Even has the same big cubby hole in the dash as a Granada.
huwtm
Yes that was a corporate copy, but NOT the same body. All the same design cues built around a Falcon shell. Also the following car echoed the Taurus. Again though, designed here and built on a Falcon platform. Not a shell imported from another division.
But more than anything, It has been a lot of years since then, and with the current shape, it is unique. Not the best looking car, but by no means the worst. Sticking the Falcon on a Fairlane tray hurt it’s visual balance.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
I have done significant research into the history of Holden, Ford and GM over the years. If you’ve read my commentary here you’ll know I often praise the Falcon. I know Ford were assembling model T’s in Geelong before Holden, who had their origins in building completely Australian bodies onto imported Chev chassis’ in the days of body-on-frame construction. You need to look at the differing historical mantras of FoMoCo and GM. Fords mass production ‘any colour you want so long as it’s black’ ideology differed from GM who created a range of model lines for both higher and lower income brackets as well as customising their cars to suit local conditions and tastes. They did this by buying Holden (who already had experience with GM chassis) to design and manufacture a local car (similar story with Opel for the German market). In fact Ford’s plant in Geelong is designed to resist snow because Henry Ford refused to allow new designs to be drawn up, so they copied the North American one.
Although it is impossible to put a fully complete picture of the history of both companies on a CA post.
I may have poorly worded my comment in saying ‘completely’ redesigned the body, but it was significantly changed. However you need to understand the VT and VE are two COMPLETELY
huwtm
reasonable job of trying to relate part of the history ( I’m not going to get into any more discussion on the location of the design for the current face lift or the previous model ). I take it you know about the bodies and their overseas origins starting back at the very first, so I won’t waste every ones time going into it.
Speaking of the AU, Local Ford were made to change the design to incorporate the edge philosophy. Unfortunately they didn’t change enough, you can see the different design styles in the car. That and trying to link it to the Taurus, made it a visual mess. Then they over priced the Taurus and frankly it was just to big and ungainly for Australia and America in fact. That experiment just went down the toilet. The local crowd didn’t have enough money to do a quick revamp like head office so we were stuck.
Much like what is going on with GM and the car the face lifted Commodore is based on.
Mercuryana
If they put a diesel in a wagon ill be the first to buy.
F1orce
Kinda excited for this..
42 = The Answer
This is fantastic news for the industry, speculation ended until at least 2020!
Golfschwein
I think this is very good news. I’d love nothing more than for Holden to sell six to seven thousand of these a month. I think they can do it. Better still, I’d love for it to be clever enough, good enough, exciting enough and NICE ENOUGH for it to deserve such success. It has to be all of those things to bring people back to the brand. With a worldwide effort on GM’s part, it can probably be done.
Zaccy16
exactly, it needs to be a whole new car not a remake of the cruddy ve, if its quality is up to global standards (the ve’s is rubbish), better packaging, replace the cruddy base torque less unrefined sidi v6 and it would be a much much better car, knowing holden and gm it will be another rebadged daewoo like the cruze!
Zaccy16
Exactly
nugsdad
on what basis is the VE rubbish?
Shak
I think we all know that most people dont buy a car based on merit anymore. If they did then cars such as the Hilux and Corolla would not sell in the numbers they do. It is a similar story with the locals. All of them drive better, handle better and have better value than most imported Sedans and SUV’s and some of them get better economy as well. People are buying cars based on the perception it will give them, and the prestige factor. They are buying for popularity and not based on what they actually need.
Frenchie
Its also price point and what you want the vehicle to do. Do I buy a large 40K Commodore for me and my partner? Or do I buy that Golf GTi for my family of 5? Maybe I get a Prado for an extra 15K never leave the bitumen, use it to drop the kids off school (if I had kids) and to pop into the local cafe because I’m to lazy to ride my bike as it is stuck on the bike rack at the back! No wait I’m retired so I drive a car under 20k that is cheap and nasty because it will end up in the through the front of a shop and they’re bound to take my licence away from me!!!
Pro346
Maybe it will be torana sized like the tt36 concept hey had out a few years ago? Sounds good!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Karl-Sass/100000921334936 Karl Sass
That was on the Alpha platform, here’s hoping!
Shak
Alpha is looking most likely if they want to bring the Costs of the platfom down, and also if they want to keep the Commodore RWD.
Ox
My guess is a rebadged Chevy Impala with 4wd for performance modles.
matt
impala is probly a touch bigger then commodore, with the malibu doing pretty poor in the states, id say the next commodore/malibu… will be just that, badge engineered, maybe the commodore name will be adopted in the states. I think ford is outa here in 2016, leaving next to no parts supplier base in australia for holden to build their own unique car anyway, oh joy assembeling flat packs.
Shak
Read between the lines folks. He said whatever model they built would have the Commodore NAME attached to it. That does not necessarily mean it will be a true Commodore in spirit.
Zaccy16
exactly, it could be a front wheel drive hatchback for all we know! ( i doubt it though)
Zaccy16
Exactly exactly exactly etc etc
Sumpguard
Exactly .
Save It For The Track
Good points of current VE to keep. RWD, traction/stability control setting. Bad points to improve – size of A, B and C-pillars, air conditioning at times not up to task (especially stationary for lengthy periods in hot weather), reliability of engines, fit and finish and panel gaps, paint thickness/quality, problems with steering wheel audio/trip meter controls etc.
Rocket
Rather a VH, VG or VJ Valiant.
Golfmother
YER with 318 fireball those were the days .
The Real Wile E
One swallow does not make a summer
Jezza
Trolls gonna troll. My inner bogan excited for Sunday!
gtrxuone
This is great news for all involved at Holden and for Australia.A level of excitment is building to Sunday.
What an outstanding effot the Ve was,the billion dollar baby.A whole new look and platform,but now its time to move on.
The Australian governments over the last 25 years have broken down the tarrif walls.And open our market to free competition.They have gone to far the other way and have allmost destroyed our local industry,adding the high AU$.
As reported in the fin review recently.Government assistance to our local industry is small compared to countrysb like Germany and the Usa.
davie
A positive announcement. For Holden to make this they are showing they obviously have a game plan. And the plan will be a shared worldwide platform.
Assuming that Zeta is discontinued (for size and weight reasons), the platform can be one of only 2 options:
1 – custom RWD platform shared with other RWD instances in GM (cadillac, corvette,)
2 – modular FWD/AWD platform (similar to Volkswagens MQB)
Either way – the level of base technology and light weight materials will be much greater than today. There is simply no other way that the business case would have been approved.
GT
Great News! I wish they they would just go one step further and confirm it’ll be on Alpha already. Now the media will continue to blindly speculate on rebadged Malibus and 4 cylinder Camry competitors…
Considering a fifth of current sales are high-profit V8 RWD variants, I don’t see them switching to FWD and AWD when no added expense would be needed to use Alpha instead of Epsilon.Over to you Ford.
TG
Hopefully this new one will be designated VD.
Repus008
people must remember if the car industry in this country goes under and the dollar drops we will pay big money for imported cars and the industry here will be gone holden and ford make great large cars
Barry
Also Repus the importers will send there worst cars here.Like Volkswagen already do.
The price of the imported cars will skyrocket.
huwtm
True in part, but people aren’t buying large cars so what should they do? Not many any way.
Sumpguard
50 bucks says the 2017 Commodore is considerably smaller. I recall a prototype modern torana a few years back. That’s where I think the commodore will head.
Meanwhile I read that this VF will be a technical showcase with heads up display and various anti-crash techs.
I’m looking forward to the reveal.
huwtm
I think you are right about 2017. Sounds like most of the electrical stuff, are just toys. But heads up can be good if it’s in there.
Gibwater
Australians love the ‘Commodore’ name? They buy it because its there.They may hate the name.Holden have had better names out. If the 2017 Holden is smaller and has front wheel drive,four cyl,etc then its release should coincide with a new name,and leave the Commodore legacy with the last VF. Part of the Falcons problem is probably its name……its been around since 1960.Its a stale name and low sales are reflecting this.
Cant wait to read the comments
Oh dear, egg on face of the many who said they had it straight from the horse’s mouth that the VF would be the last Commodore to be built here………….
huwtm
You obviously didn’t here the news or read the reports properly. GM, said FWD 4 cylinder from the GM line up. Commodore as you know it is essentially gone.
