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	<title>Comments on: 2009 Opel Ampera, new Euro Volt</title>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/21184/2009-opel-ampera-new-euro-volt/#comment-112883</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah Holdens effort would probably be a Daewoo Nicad.

Can&#039;t wait for electric cars. Its gonna be a great second car dfor doing the local taxi runnabout stuff. I currently do about 240k&#039;s of urban city stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah Holdens effort would probably be a Daewoo Nicad.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for electric cars. Its gonna be a great second car dfor doing the local taxi runnabout stuff. I currently do about 240k&#8217;s of urban city stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/21184/2009-opel-ampera-new-euro-volt/#comment-112796</link>
		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if the commodore will adopt headlights like that for the global design, effectively making it look like a falcon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if the commodore will adopt headlights like that for the global design, effectively making it look like a falcon.</p>
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		<title>By: lazybones</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/21184/2009-opel-ampera-new-euro-volt/#comment-112782</link>
		<dc:creator>lazybones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Year, as for the will we get the chev Volt or Euro Volt. I think the chev already looks very euro. Especially when compared to the original concept:-

caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/volt_003.jpg

Maybe the yanks are starting to realise they&#039;re incapable of designing beautiful cars :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Year, as for the will we get the chev Volt or Euro Volt. I think the chev already looks very euro. Especially when compared to the original concept:-</p>
<p>caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/volt_003.jpg</p>
<p>Maybe the yanks are starting to realise they&#8217;re incapable of designing beautiful cars <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: lazybones</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazybones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what im keen to find out about these electric cars is how many kw’s of electricity does it consume to travel 60k’s???&quot;

Bizzare, i was talking a friend about this just the other day. Partly prompty by an episode of the series &quot;Future Car&quot; on descovery. 

With the new Mini-E we can at last see some good pound for pound comparisons of EV&#039;s vs traditional combustion. EV&#039;s use energy in a much more efficient way, where a combustion engine can only use about 25% of the available energy in the fuel. Then you&#039;ve got regenative breaking, and other smarts to make it go further.

Based on coal fired electricy creating 1.39Kg of Co2 per Kwh, and comparing the Mini-E with the 1.6ltr Clubman. The overall Co2 emissions to travel 100kms would be 15.5kg for the Mini-E and 16.6kg for the Clubman.

If you then opt for a small 1Kw PV Solar array, you could completely offset about 15000kms per year in the Mini-E. IE Zero emissions travel vs 2.5 tonnes of Co2 created by the clubman. 

But there is a catch, 1) I&#039;ve done my figures with only 1 coffee consumed 2) The clubman seats 4 people vs 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what im keen to find out about these electric cars is how many kw’s of electricity does it consume to travel 60k’s???&#8221;</p>
<p>Bizzare, i was talking a friend about this just the other day. Partly prompty by an episode of the series &#8220;Future Car&#8221; on descovery. </p>
<p>With the new Mini-E we can at last see some good pound for pound comparisons of EV&#8217;s vs traditional combustion. EV&#8217;s use energy in a much more efficient way, where a combustion engine can only use about 25% of the available energy in the fuel. Then you&#8217;ve got regenative breaking, and other smarts to make it go further.</p>
<p>Based on coal fired electricy creating 1.39Kg of Co2 per Kwh, and comparing the Mini-E with the 1.6ltr Clubman. The overall Co2 emissions to travel 100kms would be 15.5kg for the Mini-E and 16.6kg for the Clubman.</p>
<p>If you then opt for a small 1Kw PV Solar array, you could completely offset about 15000kms per year in the Mini-E. IE Zero emissions travel vs 2.5 tonnes of Co2 created by the clubman. </p>
<p>But there is a catch, 1) I&#8217;ve done my figures with only 1 coffee consumed 2) The clubman seats 4 people vs 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crouchy - maybe Andrew M has lost patients with posting well thought out arguments on here because people just ignore them and stick strictly to their pre-conceived notions about a product and/or company. Can&#039;t blame him...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crouchy &#8211; maybe Andrew M has lost patients with posting well thought out arguments on here because people just ignore them and stick strictly to their pre-conceived notions about a product and/or company. Can&#8217;t blame him&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Car Tuning</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/21184/2009-opel-ampera-new-euro-volt/#comment-112733</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Tuning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t see myself driving an electric car sooner or later. they might have a cute design but they look like girl cars and with those performances don&#039;t know which speed fanatic would go for an ampera or volt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t see myself driving an electric car sooner or later. they might have a cute design but they look like girl cars and with those performances don&#8217;t know which speed fanatic would go for an ampera or volt.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Building a good electric car cannot be that difficult as I believe there is a small Melbourne based company that turns Getz into all electric and the range was better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building a good electric car cannot be that difficult as I believe there is a small Melbourne based company that turns Getz into all electric and the range was better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electric only drive would have to be more efficient than the combination drive as in the Prius.

No gearbox and smaller petrol engine designed to run at constant speed/load etc and electric drive motor is more efficient anyway.

Also simpler electronics as no split between petrol and electric drive.

I would have thought Toyota would have chosen this route to start with although battery tech may have been limitation back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric only drive would have to be more efficient than the combination drive as in the Prius.</p>
<p>No gearbox and smaller petrol engine designed to run at constant speed/load etc and electric drive motor is more efficient anyway.</p>
<p>Also simpler electronics as no split between petrol and electric drive.</p>
<p>I would have thought Toyota would have chosen this route to start with although battery tech may have been limitation back then.</p>
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		<title>By: Frenchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frenchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this car, but I hope GM are looking at different models and styles to employ this technology to; wagon, hatch, a sedan that sits five adults, coupe, SUV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this car, but I hope GM are looking at different models and styles to employ this technology to; wagon, hatch, a sedan that sits five adults, coupe, SUV.</p>
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		<title>By: o</title>
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		<dc:creator>o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it looks liek it will be a volt with just a new front and rear.i was hoping the ugly sides would go.Still it makes sense for holden to import/build the ampera and call it the volt as the insignia is coming the astra has a 40% chance of coming .At the moment holden is at a cross roads and it has about 3 choices.
1.get rid of the euros and adapt the chevy design language with differnet grill.
2.keep the current with euro and korean
3.keep the euro and create chev as a seperate brand.
ATM id say holden will do number 2  as the sketch of the new torana has euro cues,I would say that the VF commodore will have a more insignia style gril land tailights to align itself for when/if the insignia/astra arrivee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it looks liek it will be a volt with just a new front and rear.i was hoping the ugly sides would go.Still it makes sense for holden to import/build the ampera and call it the volt as the insignia is coming the astra has a 40% chance of coming .At the moment holden is at a cross roads and it has about 3 choices.<br />
1.get rid of the euros and adapt the chevy design language with differnet grill.<br />
2.keep the current with euro and korean<br />
3.keep the euro and create chev as a seperate brand.<br />
ATM id say holden will do number 2  as the sketch of the new torana has euro cues,I would say that the VF commodore will have a more insignia style gril land tailights to align itself for when/if the insignia/astra arrivee</p>
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