Comments on: CarAdvice Forum v3.0 launch

By: Austin

Austin — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:03:03 +0000

yeah um Car Advice – a secure password does not have to use numbers, a randomly assigned bunch of letters is as secure to force decryption as a password of mixed case and numbers if the system doing the decryption does not know the form the password is in…someone has put a secure password check on your forum that is prohibitively tough for a use that I would rate as justifying the weakest password I use. It’s an internet forum for christs sake, why would I use a secure randomly generated mixed case and number password for it when I could use an easier rubbish one similar to those for other sites and unimportant things.

By: crouchy

crouchy — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:08:51 +0000

“we’ve discussed the idea of having registered only commentors but it discourages casual visitors from participating.”

This is exactly right. I personally think that there is room in these discussions for pointless and ’silly’ comments and thats what makes them appealing and somewhat entertaining.

People tend not to worry about what is right and wrong and just say what they are thinking…

If you are after a more sensible, moderated discussion then you have the option to join the CA Forum =D

By: lazybones

lazybones — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:02:43 +0000

“we’ve discussed the idea of having registered only commentors but it discourages casual visitors from participating.”

But does that out swing the pointless comments made by some casual posters, not to mention registration should kill dead any spam.

How about a section of EV’s in the forum??

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:26:03 +0000

I understand that Allborz but have a look at the standard of discussion that goes on on other automotive related blog sites where people have to register like the Holden and Ford Forums

There the discussions manage to stay on topic and there are very few comments with personal attacks etc. people are willing to accept other peoples opinions and even offer advice.

However; I guess it depends whether or not if you are after Quality or Quantity

By: alborz

alborz — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:26:50 +0000

That’s correct guys, we’ve discussed the idea of having registered only commentors but it discourages casual visitors from participating.

By: mdt

mdt — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:12:34 +0000

Crouchy, the system of having to log in to leave a comment has been around forever and works well on thousands of other sites. A cookie from the site keeps track of your login so you don’t need to type your username and password every time. You still get to fire off a rapid-fire comment, but nobody can hijack your chosen username and people can be held (more) accountable for what they post.

By: Horse

Horse — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:57:18 +0000

I think the words that create the biggest controversy here are Daewoo and Toyota !

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:34:01 +0000

I know that Horse However; the words which I think CA shoud add to the list create more controversy etc than a number of the usual “offensive” words

Theycould make it so that if the the “code” word such as c@ck or f##k isn’t detected as a “normal” word that comment is also deleted..

It would also stop Grammar Nazi Coerectin poples spilling mistooks

However; these are merley suggestions as to how CA could improve both thier sites

By: Crouchy

Crouchy — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:20:52 +0000

I dont think a comment system where registration is required would work.

The convenience here is that anyone can say what they are thinking straight away. Many casual readers would be detracted by needing to register and sign in…

By: Horse

Horse — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:15:21 +0000

Great, now any time will be a good time to blindly dismiss anything not made in Japan or Europe and endlessly argue about toyota vs the world.

PS I can tell you it isn’t worth trying to automatically detect words, people will quickly figure out how to get around it.

for example

b@ll FuF@@cker

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:45:48 +0000

The one computer one name proposal is also a fairly good idea.. as it would eliminate those who use vaious aliases name just to try and back up thier arguement because no-one else agrees with them

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:20:31 +0000

I agree Tom – the current system that CA uses to moderate comments is somewhat basic.. as it requires someone to take time out and proofread the comments which the system spits out as it has detected an offensive word or series of letters that may happen form an offensive word weven though the the letters are part of a non offensive word.

They could refine it a bit more and make it so that the when a word that is on a particular list of words is detected [on its own] the comment is automatically deleted…

They could also add a few more words which seem to cause the discussion to go off topic and turn into an arguement as one particular party with their holier than thou attitude finds it necessary to launch into a tirade of personal insults and attacks because the majority of bloggers have an opinion different to his.

I think you know who I am talking about and which words should therefore be added…. They are:

D—-
T—–
C—-
A—–
C——
H—-
L—-
etc

This would go along way to improving the site and maybe even restore it to what it was a year or so ago

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:56:36 +0000

I was all for the forums when they started, thought they would be great. They wern’t, the discussion was uninformed and fairly off point, it seems we just like talking in the comments section, but i wish them well this time!

PS, i’ve suggested it before, but how hard would a comments system with registration and a set username be? CA runs a basic wordpress system doesn’t they, and thats a fairly standard feature.