amazingly a stripped out version is cheaper! are you listening porsche?
I’d much rather that Porsche obsess themselves with the fitness and skill of their cars’ potential drivers than spend thousands, maybe even millions on how to shave one gram from the vehicles. All this R&D will be nonsense when the pilot is fat, heavy and unskilled anyway. They may as well include training and exercise programmes instead of removing car features yet charge customers even more.
Someone’s going to have fun with these.
This is so awesome I would look into importing one of these and keep the steelies on it, radio out. Be great if it wasn’t JDM only.
Or just strip it out yourself and add a few aftermarket goodies……hell a lot cheaper than importing one yourself!
406mm front brakes? I’d see it when I believe it. Thats just overkill for such a small car…
You’re correct in a way. It is overkill without any modification, but it’s meant to be the base for track/race performance aftermarket modification. So after the owner installs a turbo/supercharger, it wouldn’t be such overkill anymore.
I remember reading in Motor magazine, a local tuner called Tekno managed to get 230kW/350Nm using a turbocharger and achieve 0-100 in 5.4s with the 86. I would want big brakes for that kind of performance.
The 86/BRZ is designed to be driven with a NA engine. The concept is following the classic British sports car purist formula of lightweight chassis, high rev NA engines, balanced front-rear proportions with front engine/RWD & low center of gravity. Forced induction would just upset the natural balance, put sudden torque to the rear wheels, & added weight to the front with turbo, plumbing & IC.
The natural tuning formula is to further lighten the chassis, maintain the natural front-rear weight proportion & tune the engine for even higher revs – NOT by adding a turbo!
Sorry to say but you’re wrong about it following the “classic British sports car formula”. It’s following the “classic Japanese affordable and customisable drifter formula”.
Even before the car went on sale, Toyota already invited a whole bunch of tuning houses in Japan as well as America to come and take measurements of every parts of the car. Some even came with a laser scanner.
Now both Toyota started selling the stripped down version with stronger engine. Of course that means they anticipated the use of forced induction.
I don’t understand why you think turbo or supercharger would upset the balance. With the car stiffen up, suspension upgrade, etc. it’ll simply become a faster version of itself. Sure it’ll be heavier but the power increase will overcome that easily.
For the average drivers though, the stock 86/BRZ is of course more than enough.
Never heard of “classic Japanese affordable and customisable drifter formula”. I’m referring to the car manufacturer’s philosophy here – in this case, Toyota & Subaru, and not some enthusiast’s take on modding. Besides, affordability and customizing/drifting are mutually exclusive – drifting is an expensive and very specialised sport!
Subaru had the turbo technology but for the 86/BRZ, Toyota wanted to go the NA route. Toyota wanted to use Subaru’s boxer engine for a low center of gravity and using Toyota’s dual fuel injection system to achieve 100hp/liter. It had a very high compression ratio of 12.5:1 which is incompatible with forced induction. On the other hand, Toyota also design the chassis to be lightweight as possible. If Toyota or Subaru intended to use forced induction, it would considered AWD since Subaru already had the AWD engineering. However, Toyota wanted to use RWD to keep things simple.
Turbo power delivery is unlike NA – turbo has a slight lag before a power rush occurs – in NA engine, power is built up through revs. A power rush means breaking traction in a RWD car & upsetting the balance through a corner.
People here see too much “Fast & Furious”
Wow… You managed to ignore all the relevant points in my post.
Fast & Furious is based on Japanese import, customised car culture which is what the 86/BRZ is all about.
You’re only talking about turbo lag. Pretty sure I also mentioned SUPERCHARGER.
Someone forgot to tell Tekno that 12.5:1 is not suitable for turbo..
Every sports cars are designed to be as light as possible.
Why would they consider AWD if they want forced induction?? What’s that got to do with anything? The Supra was a RWD turbocharged sports car. Besides, it’ll compete with the WRX, why on earth would Subaru consider that? lol
Might I remind you that you’re in an article about STRIPPED DOWN VERSION of the BRZ!! These cars were designed and made with customisation in mind. Why do you think it comes with a stronger engine and bigger brakes? Where do you think the extra power’s gonna come from?
Indeed. That size disk plus a caliper still to go on would have a hard time fitting under the rims that are pictured.
Awesome, just bring it here……
Holden/ford should do this also here……
Spot on,a GT Rspec striped out would be an awesome vehicle and they would sell.
Bit surprised they included a roll-cage for this car. Bit of over kill i think.
I like it though.
Roll-cages are a very, very good thing to have on a race track. Everyone who’d buy this RA model would most likely have to fit a roll cage anyway, so Subaru took the liberty of fitting one themselves. Smart idea, I think.
Isn’t a roll cage illegal to use on public roads here?
Full cage as shown here yes. Can have a half cage, however (as you see in RS Porsches).
Thanks for clarifying that. I wonder why it’s illegal though, isn’t it a safety device?
I think it has something to do with accessibility, and limited vision through the windows.
I think it’s a stupid law, and they should be allowed. A full cage and racing harness would massively increase the safety of a car.
its because unless you are wearing a helmet you can hit your head on it in a crash.
Toyota been doing it with 86 from start. Toyota go further with unprinted front and rear bumper and stripped out inside. Yes it’s cheaper as well.
I want this with everything stripped out and manual except air conditioning. It’s the only thing you’ve got to have.
Those steeled look tough
So yeah the Toyota 86 and Subaru shares genes. That is a slap in the face for Subaru cause the 86 is a half-assed sportscar not even worthy of a capital S. I don’t even want this tweeked version of the BRZ.
I am sure everyone on the waiting list will thank you.
Does anyone know what the delivery time is for a Subaru BRZ?
I don’t understand how ugly steel wheels can be incorporated to car that’s supposed to be more lightweight than the standard one. They’re heavier than mags.
I think the idea is that they will be replaced with racing wheels anyway so why waste money on alloys.
For those wondering RA means “Race Altered”
Someone might want to check the facts on this article- 406mm front brakes will not fit under 16in wheels because 406mm = 15.98in. Where would the caliper go?
Definitely wouldn’t be 406mm. I have 330mm and they’re monsters already.