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	<title>Comments on: Toyota to continue selling current Prius against Honda Insight hybrid</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I emailed Honda who said they do not intend on bringing the Insight into the Australian line up. This goes against all the media hype about it coming to Oz and being a major competitor for the Prius</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I emailed Honda who said they do not intend on bringing the Insight into the Australian line up. This goes against all the media hype about it coming to Oz and being a major competitor for the Prius</p>
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		<title>By: jasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would like to see them in the flesh, but I reckon the new Prius looks better than the new Insight, &amp; certainly hugely more stylish than the current Prius.

I&#039;ve read where aero plays a large part in the styling of these 3 Hybrids, however that doesn&#039;t translate to the Civic or Camry Hybrids.
The Civic seems to have flush alloy wheels though.

Hybrids will really takeoff when they are fully viable for mainstream sedans, wagons, &amp; vans, rather than just similar looking 5 door hatches.

I&#039;d be happy to drive a hybrid, but I don&#039;t need to advertise it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would like to see them in the flesh, but I reckon the new Prius looks better than the new Insight, &amp; certainly hugely more stylish than the current Prius.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read where aero plays a large part in the styling of these 3 Hybrids, however that doesn&#8217;t translate to the Civic or Camry Hybrids.<br />
The Civic seems to have flush alloy wheels though.</p>
<p>Hybrids will really takeoff when they are fully viable for mainstream sedans, wagons, &amp; vans, rather than just similar looking 5 door hatches.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be happy to drive a hybrid, but I don&#8217;t need to advertise it.</p>
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		<title>By: jasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cupid Stunt,

Apparently sales of the current Prius have almost halved in the US, since fuel prices went down, &amp; toyota has mothballed building a new Prius factory in the US.

Seems they will have quite a few of the old model available for sale after the new one lobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cupid Stunt,</p>
<p>Apparently sales of the current Prius have almost halved in the US, since fuel prices went down, &amp; toyota has mothballed building a new Prius factory in the US.</p>
<p>Seems they will have quite a few of the old model available for sale after the new one lobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the real reason beind this. Probably something to do with a yard of old unsold Prius&#039;s lurking toward battery failure and the fact Honda have hoodwinked them.

Loooosers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the real reason beind this. Probably something to do with a yard of old unsold Prius&#8217;s lurking toward battery failure and the fact Honda have hoodwinked them.</p>
<p>Loooosers!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Spitfire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spitfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike says; “If there is a segment, they will build a car and compete…” Well, can we see some sports cars then Toyota? 

Spitfire says; Sports Cars and Toyota are mutually exclusive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike says; “If there is a segment, they will build a car and compete…” Well, can we see some sports cars then Toyota? </p>
<p>Spitfire says; Sports Cars and Toyota are mutually exclusive.</p>
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		<title>By: geni</title>
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		<dc:creator>geni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Toyota reality-distortion field so strong that they think people would rather buy a prius than the new Honda insight? Wouldn&#039;t surprise me, I still can&#039;t work out how Toyota confuses 2000 people a month into buying a Camry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Toyota reality-distortion field so strong that they think people would rather buy a prius than the new Honda insight? Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me, I still can&#8217;t work out how Toyota confuses 2000 people a month into buying a Camry.</p>
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		<title>By: milobob</title>
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		<dc:creator>milobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to add, no wonder they can offer the new insight at a lower price than the civic.. just offer at the old civic&#039;s price!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to add, no wonder they can offer the new insight at a lower price than the civic.. just offer at the old civic&#8217;s price!</p>
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		<title>By: milobob</title>
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		<dc:creator>milobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the heck? Now it&#039;s $35,990 for the Civic hybrid??????????

That&#039;s a 10% increase in price over the past month! Used to be $32,990... and even less before then!!! DAMN YOU HONDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the heck? Now it&#8217;s $35,990 for the Civic hybrid??????????</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a 10% increase in price over the past month! Used to be $32,990&#8230; and even less before then!!! DAMN YOU HONDA.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody noticed the rise in Prado rage lately?

You know a wanker in the latest shape Prado attempting to run over everything in front of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody noticed the rise in Prado rage lately?</p>
<p>You know a wanker in the latest shape Prado attempting to run over everything in front of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually they would probably canabalise sales from the Camry.LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually they would probably canabalise sales from the Camry.LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love the VP commodore rear quarter styling on the &quot;old Prius&quot; not!

Bring back the Corona at least they were rear wheel drive although pretty hard to keep on the road.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love the VP commodore rear quarter styling on the &#8220;old Prius&#8221; not!</p>
<p>Bring back the Corona at least they were rear wheel drive although pretty hard to keep on the road.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Dlr1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlr1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a concept thats no different to what Holden did when they released the AH series Astra a couple of years ago... they kept selling the old TS Astra along side it and tacked on a &quot;classic&quot; badge and sold it for less than the new one. Or even what Nissan is doing at the moment with the D22 Navara. Cheaper or not they still look dated compared to the new model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a concept thats no different to what Holden did when they released the AH series Astra a couple of years ago&#8230; they kept selling the old TS Astra along side it and tacked on a &#8220;classic&#8221; badge and sold it for less than the new one. Or even what Nissan is doing at the moment with the D22 Navara. Cheaper or not they still look dated compared to the new model.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah you&#039;ve got a good point there JasonP. I was just thinking of it from the perspective of &quot;current model&quot; cars that you can still purchase having a higher resale generally than superceded models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah you&#8217;ve got a good point there JasonP. I was just thinking of it from the perspective of &#8220;current model&#8221; cars that you can still purchase having a higher resale generally than superceded models.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Not really Uncle Kevs&#039; fault re the import taxes etc.

in fact part of the reason his Gov&#039;t is providing assistance to the Aussie Car Industry, is because they are still going to drop the import duty to 5% in (I think) 2010.

Australia has one of the lowest rates of import duty on cars, in the Western World, the reasoning is that it forces our local manufacturers to be more competitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Not really Uncle Kevs&#8217; fault re the import taxes etc.</p>
<p>in fact part of the reason his Gov&#8217;t is providing assistance to the Aussie Car Industry, is because they are still going to drop the import duty to 5% in (I think) 2010.</p>
<p>Australia has one of the lowest rates of import duty on cars, in the Western World, the reasoning is that it forces our local manufacturers to be more competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s agrovating to see vehicles sell for much less in the US compared to Down Under, especially when the AUD was nearly on-par with the USD and a G8 retailed for less than a base Commodore here.

Agrovating yes, but a rip-off. Not always. Automakers are able to shift a much larger number of vehicles, giving them better economies of scale and the ability to reduce production costs. In addition to that, Australian imports are taxed fairly highly, especially luxury vehicles (thanks mr. rudd). 

I still believe we were bieng gouged with the Commodore though, especially when they announced $29, 990 drive away pricing towards the end of last year and they sell more here  than in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s agrovating to see vehicles sell for much less in the US compared to Down Under, especially when the AUD was nearly on-par with the USD and a G8 retailed for less than a base Commodore here.</p>
<p>Agrovating yes, but a rip-off. Not always. Automakers are able to shift a much larger number of vehicles, giving them better economies of scale and the ability to reduce production costs. In addition to that, Australian imports are taxed fairly highly, especially luxury vehicles (thanks mr. rudd). </p>
<p>I still believe we were bieng gouged with the Commodore though, especially when they announced $29, 990 drive away pricing towards the end of last year and they sell more here  than in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RoFlmaTiC,

You reckon?
Don&#039;t you think that if you paid say $24000 for the prius you bought today, that being able to buy the exact same car in a couple of months time for $20000, would harm your resale?

Surely if you were selling in say a years time, that a buyer would rather pay just a little extra for a brand new one (of the old model), rather than yours with a years worth of mileage on it?

Yes the new model would diminish the prices of the old model, but by still selling the old model at a new price thousands cheaper than it was, means your 2nd hand one would have to be worth even less.

True what you say re the price difference from US to Oz.

My own favourite car sell for much less over there than here. It sucks &amp; it&#039;s wrong, but cas sell for what the market will bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoFlmaTiC,</p>
<p>You reckon?<br />
Don&#8217;t you think that if you paid say $24000 for the prius you bought today, that being able to buy the exact same car in a couple of months time for $20000, would harm your resale?</p>
<p>Surely if you were selling in say a years time, that a buyer would rather pay just a little extra for a brand new one (of the old model), rather than yours with a years worth of mileage on it?</p>
<p>Yes the new model would diminish the prices of the old model, but by still selling the old model at a new price thousands cheaper than it was, means your 2nd hand one would have to be worth even less.</p>
<p>True what you say re the price difference from US to Oz.</p>
<p>My own favourite car sell for much less over there than here. It sucks &amp; it&#8217;s wrong, but cas sell for what the market will bear.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 of the UGLIEST MOFO CARS ON THE ROAD TODAY...
Bloody hybrids are going to ruin the enjoyment of just driving a car....the days of car driving for pure pleasure are very numbered...sad sad sad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 of the UGLIEST MOFO CARS ON THE ROAD TODAY&#8230;<br />
Bloody hybrids are going to ruin the enjoyment of just driving a car&#8230;.the days of car driving for pure pleasure are very numbered&#8230;sad sad sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see your logic JasonP.

The resale prices would have diminished following the release of a new model regardless of whether or not the previous model continues to be sold. If anything I believe that continuing to offer the previous model would sustain 2nd hand vehicle prices.

And as for your point relating to the price of the prius in USA vs Australia, the fact that we pay inflated prices for our cars when compared to the price in USA should not come as a surprise to you nor anyone. Look at the price of any car that is sold in both the USA and Australia and you will see a pattern. And that pattern is certainly not confined to any single auto manufacturer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see your logic JasonP.</p>
<p>The resale prices would have diminished following the release of a new model regardless of whether or not the previous model continues to be sold. If anything I believe that continuing to offer the previous model would sustain 2nd hand vehicle prices.</p>
<p>And as for your point relating to the price of the prius in USA vs Australia, the fact that we pay inflated prices for our cars when compared to the price in USA should not come as a surprise to you nor anyone. Look at the price of any car that is sold in both the USA and Australia and you will see a pattern. And that pattern is certainly not confined to any single auto manufacturer.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;ll be great for resale values for current prius owners.

Pay $38k for a car that sells in the US for $24k, then have your model slashed in price to position it as a cheaper altenative to the all new one.

And others have slagged Aussie car builders for gutzing their prices, hurting second hand values in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;ll be great for resale values for current prius owners.</p>
<p>Pay $38k for a car that sells in the US for $24k, then have your model slashed in price to position it as a cheaper altenative to the all new one.</p>
<p>And others have slagged Aussie car builders for gutzing their prices, hurting second hand values in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If there is a segment, they will build a car and compete...&quot; Well, can we see some sports cars then Toyota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If there is a segment, they will build a car and compete&#8230;&#8221; Well, can we see some sports cars then Toyota?</p>
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