So many Toyo-philes like to think that the rules etc are restrictive discouraging or whatever designed to ensure that its a two horse race but that isn’t the case.

Then they bring up the “story” about the GT-Rs being “thrown out” of the sport 0 to try and support their claims.

The claims come mostly from those who don’t know much about the sport; or even follow V8s

toyota WOULDNT need to produce a road going aussie built rwd v8 for V8sc to accept them.
Toyota could easily run on someone elses platform. The ford and holden V8s arent exactlly production cars either, so i doubt many would care about the toyota not producing a RWD’r thing.

Ill say it again…………
THE RULE THAT V8SC IS STAYING FIRM ON IS A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF YEARS COMMITTMENT AND ALSO A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF CARS IN ORDER TO ENSURE A MANUFACTURER SUCH i.e. TOYOTA DOES NOT WALTZ IN AND PUMP MEGA BUCKS INTO A SMALL SET UP, DOMINATE, AND THEN LEAVE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE NEGOTIABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO TECHNICLLY MAKE A BLUE PRINTED TOYOTA V8SC

Ive said that^^ that many times, yet no one seems to listen and keeps skipping to their own conclusion

Toyota never submitted a proposal once they found out that they would not be allowed structure a team the way they wanted.
Its a team structure thing that is keeping toyota out, not technical issues. toyota wont enter unless they have an unfair advantage, and since V8sc isnt allowing the unfair advantage toyota wants, toyota wont enter

The alterations won’t be that expensive.. Toyta/Lexus already have a couple of RWD platforms they could use and a V8 engine which is capable of producing 620-700bhp don’t they

Doesn’t matter as the Race car resemble s little dimilarity to the Road car

However all Toyota would basically have to do is put the RWD platform – the one under the AS-IF for example; under the Aurion…. problem solved and maybe image enhanced

Is that because like in F1 you can predict who is going to win even before the race starts…. Will it be Master Bates 1st & Simon Evans 2nd or Simon Evans 1st & Master Bates 2nd?.

In an Interview a couple of years ago Freddie Gibson who was manager of the all conquering Winfield Racing Nissan GT-Rs said “even if the rules weren’t changed after 1992 its very unlikely that we would have continued to race them because it was simply becoming too expensive for us to keep the cars on the track…. I was also having trouble finding sponsors” – and they were the championship let alone the Bathurst winners.

Why…. because just to satisfy the rules that are designed to discourage anyone else form entering,

Have you even read the V8SC rules and regulations etc – I have and nowhere does it specifically state that only Ford and Holden can compete.

I mean the rules and regulations in F1 are just as discouraging aren’t they? – you can enter provide that
the engine sounds like a swarm of bees the car looks like a p—s with wings and wheels; not to mention that it disintegrates as a result of even the slightest “love-tap” from another competitor.

Get over yourself JJT all forms of motorsport have various rules and regulations as to how a car must be buitl and what its performance must be etc – it helps ensure close competition.. which is exactly what we have in V8 Supercars

No longer can /does one particular team dominate the sport with race win after race win championship after championship like HRT did years ago… there are a number of competitive teams/drivers.
Whereas in F1 its either Ferrari 1st McLaren 2nd or McLaren 1st Ferrari 2nd and then Daylight 3rd…. so predictable!

Why … because just to satisfy the rules that are designed to discourage anyone else form entering, it will mean Toyota will have to invest billions of dollars to alter thier entire production setup which co-incidentally would go against Toyota’s global trend just so they could enter a series in Australia with a market 1/15th the size of the US … somehow, i just don’t think so !!

Besides, without the exposure of V8SC series they outsell Holden and Ford combined and then some regardless !!

Appears to me Holden and Ford’s weekend advertising is having little or no effect.

Apart from that, exposer to F1 and NASCAR brings about much more global recognition then the V8SC series ever will.

Oh yeah, and nodoubt that as soon as Toyota starts getting way from them as they undoubtedly will, you can be assured Holden, Ford and thier dwindling amount of supporters will start having a panting attack and rally for applied restriction on the new competitor … they done it to Nissan and they just done it to Toyota in NASCAR.

That ain’t sportsmanship, just rotten sore-losing behaviour !!

At this point in time, i would must prefer Toyota continue thier investment in the Australian Rally Championship which quite frankly is more entertaining then watching a two horse trek.

And before i conclude, the Australian (and global) industry is guaranteed to be undergoing radical changes over the coming years and that will most likely result in radical changes to our local manufactuering culture aswell which ironically will bring about a natural change in the V8SC series as we know it today.

Basically, the series will eventually take a hit and the rules currently in effect will probably end up going against local production especially if the Falcon goes FWD / AWD sooner then later.

At that point, V8SC management will have no choice but broaden the appeal of the competition allowing entrants such as Mazda, Honda, Toyota, VW and so forth to enter without massive expenses of altering thier local fleet just to compete in the V8SC.

Once again – time will be more effective in making natural changes, just have to sit and wait …. Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tock !!

However; as Toyota don’t appear to have any plans to build an Australian made RWD Familyt Sedan which would meet the criteria even though they had a perfect opportunity to do so with the Aurion and would have been a welcome addition to their international line up.

And I doubt TC will make any changes to the rules which could be detrimental to the sportinorder to suit one particular manufacturer or team – Project Blueprint has ensured fairer closer competition which subsequently results in the sports success

If it aint broke don’t fix it or f–k with it.

Thing is Toyota were willing to accept the rules and reguulations etc from F1 which so far has resulted in a string of unbelievable lossesYet they were also willing to accept the rules and regulations from NNASCAR which has resulted in unbelievable success

Holden has also done the same as they recently announced the withdrawl of funding from selected teams.

I think ford may kick themselves over excluding 888 from the loot though. if there is one team that will turn toyota, its 888, because if there is one team toyota will join its 888.

Mark my words, if toyota decides to enter, it will be with 888.
Toyota would want instant results, and a 888 workshop would ensure that regardless of the manufacturer.

V8sc will adjust the rules as necessary upon submission of a realistic proposal. they arent worried about what technical issues need to be overcome, its just that toyota wanted to walk in and support one team and pump all their money into it giving them an unfair advantage.
Thats the bit toyota didnt like.