Comments on: Toyota Australia adds VSC to Corolla

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:45:20 +0000

Quote [Steve C]: This is something they should have done years ago. But then again, when you’re at the top, why bother changing anything.

Steve – as the saying goes It’s easier to chase than it is to lead..
Because when you are chasing [the leader] you have something to aim at. Whereas when you are leading you’re always having to be on the alert as sometimmes you are unable to see who is behind you..

Sure you may be able to see a competitor in your rear view who you think is your closest rival but there may actually be someone in your blind spot.. who shoots past you when you least expect it.

Toyota Corolla is still the leader; however; over time its competitors [VW Golf] have caught up and are right on Toyotas tail. So now Toyota are on the defensive trying to save their positon as No.1 – they may be able to do it but for how long?

By: SteveC

SteveC — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:52:52 +0000

Safer? LOL.

This is something they should have done years ago. But then again, when you’re at the top, why bother changing anything.

What would be interesting is if they scrapped all that safety crap that weighs a car down and say “Buy our car and we’ll send you to driving school”

People will actually learn to drive again. WOW! What a concept.

SteveC

By: Cupid Stunt

Cupid Stunt — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:02:12 +0000

Paul – Your’e partly correct – Astra History as follows (In Europe at least) (source Cars Directory as confirmed by other websites and NOT Wiki which is crap): -
Astra history
There have been five main versions of the Astra:

1979–84 Vauxhall Astra Mk 1/Opel Kadett D/Chevrolet Kadett
1984–91 Vauxhall Astra Mk 2/Opel Kadett E/Daewoo Le Mans/Daewoo Racer/Daewoo Cielo/Daewoo Nexia/Pontiac LeMans/Passport Optima
1991–8 Opel Astra A/F/Opel Kadett (South Africa) F/Vauxhall Astra Mk 3/Holden Astra TR/Chevrolet Astra
1998–2004 Opel Astra B/G/Vauxhall Astra Mk 4/Holden Astra TS/Holden Astra Classic/Chevrolet Astra (Brazil)/Chevrolet Viva (Russia)
2004–present Opel Astra C/H/Vauxhall Astra Mk 5/Holden Astra AH (uses the GM Delta platform).

By: Al Juraj

Al Juraj — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:07:37 +0000

That’s one down. Now add a V6 and 5-speed auto across the 4-cylinder range.

By: FCAI Facts

FCAI Facts — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:42:00 +0000

I believe Mazda charge or charged a similar amount for the optional VSC on the Mazda3 but no one complaining about that or the fact that base model came with optional VSC aswell.

Alot of these comments seem heavily hypocritical to me and remember, Toyota never sold any 2 star crash rated tin can Barina either.

By: FCAI Facts

FCAI Facts — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:36:51 +0000

Att : Wheelnut, your comment is not even close.

2008 FCAI published statistics show 47 000 Corolla’s were sold in Australian in 2008

23 000 were fleet and 24 000 Private which equates to about about 47% fleet and 53% fleet.

Your cliam of 80% fleet is just ridiculous.
Please do get it right.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:34:52 +0000

Jeckyl,
true, but ford only charges an extra 300 for more door pillows in their base model.

maybe a figure of around $1000 would seem not so rip-me- off-ish

By: jekyl and hyde

jekyl and hyde — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:13:56 +0000

andrew m,

thats what i thought too.but read the rest.side and curtain bags,knee bag.good package.pity its factory fit only.what will toyota bring in?

sorry about the thai bit toyota lovers,got my wires crossed there.as bm said,they are made everywhere.

noise and ride would be the biggest winge that tradional large car buyers complain of when trying out a smaller car.not many good ones out there…

By: SamR

SamR — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:00:44 +0000

Yoho Says: “Not the best car in its class, that goes for the Mazda 3 and the new one looks sensational.”

The new Mazda 3 is a good car but the front “smile” grill is hideous. Looks completely ridiculous.

By: Yoho

Yoho — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:38:35 +0000

Definately built in Japan. I’ve even went to the factory tour in Nagoya and seen it in action.

Not the best car in its class, that goes for the Mazda 3 and the new one looks sensational.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:50:18 +0000

1500 bucks for ESP/DSC/VSC?????

When Ford added DSC to the utes, the base price only went up a bit over a quarter of that. Talk about a rip job.

its not that ford may use a “cheaper” system either, because fords stability feature has been proven to be more efective than toyotas

By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:09:38 +0000

I realise that VW my point was they make them else where as well.

By: VW Freak

VW Freak — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:37:22 +0000

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) Says:
January 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pm

“Rollers are made in Japan, USA, UK, Canada , Malaysia, China (Tianjin), Taiwan, South Africa, Brazil , Turkey, Philippines, Thailand, Venezuela, Pakistan, India and Indonesia.”

All current model ZRE152R Corollas brought into Australia are made in Japan.

Tyson Says:
January 20th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

“And would people stop whingeing about the fact that toyota has released a safer corolla?”

Safer? Nah, they’re not any safer. All VSC and TC will do is stop the everyday sheep from doing powerslides and burnouts! :p

By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:57:07 +0000

Rollers are made in Japan, USA, UK, Canada , Malaysia, China (Tianjin), Taiwan, South Africa, Brazil , Turkey, Philippines, Thailand, Venezuela, Pakistan, India and Indonesia.

So if Corolla’s track record for saftey is that bad based on what the stats say below {we all know Toyota lovers like their stats}why are they making you pay for the safety they should have anyway? One word M O N E Y …

In Australia, Corolla models built between 1982-2004 were assessed in the Used Car Safety Ratings 2006:

* (1982-1984) — significantly worse than average level of occupant protection
* (1986-1988) — worse than average
* (1989-1993) — worse than average
* (1994-1997) — average
* (1998-2001) — significantly better than average
* (2002-2004) — average

By: Tyson

Tyson — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:25:15 +0000

Lol Corola Thai made…. The only Thai Made Toyota on the Australian Market is Hilux, The rest come in form Japan at this time….

And would people stop whingeing about the fact that toyota has released a safer corolla? If even for a premium what price do you put on your family or your own life?

By: milobob

milobob — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:37:24 +0000

my only gripe about the lancer is the hard plastic in the interior, but on all other accounts it seems to be a much better car to drive. Next stage for Mitsu is to provide cars with soft squishy plastics :P

Anyway, on topic, Toyota has made itself a brand name (reputation), and just like any other industry, you pay for the name, they know it, I know it, which is why they get away with charging more for less. Though I have to say mercs and bimmers (+ probably lexii) are worse in that respect (markup is considerably more).

By: realcars

realcars — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:21:38 +0000

Late nineties/early 2000s they imported one model of Corolla then resumed local production with successive models till present?

By: realcars

realcars — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:13:55 +0000

WILL PEOPLE EVER WAKE UP TO TOYOTA PRICING RIPOFF?

By: realcars

realcars — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:12:58 +0000

Don’t get angry Fellas just buy a Lancer.LOL.

You get the lot ans it actually looks like a car and not a Toy.

With Toyotas randon pricing the base LANCER ES is at least 5k cheaper than a base model Corolla anyway and made in Japan as an added bonus.

By: VW Freak

VW Freak — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:51:42 +0000

Oh, and another thing too Toyota, how in the hell do you justify $1500 for the safety pack now it includes VSC and TC?!? The safety pack used to be $750, which for the extra bags was reasonable value. But another $750 for tweaks to the ABS system?!? What a rip-off!!!