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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20794/gm-cancels-holden-global-rwd-platform/#comment-112259</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GM says..........&quot;lets ditch the wonderfully aussie built and designed Zeta platform and go back to our old sh*t Sigma platform.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM says&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;lets ditch the wonderfully aussie built and designed Zeta platform and go back to our old sh*t Sigma platform.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axe,

Any &amp; all help appreciated!
Not a BMW? I like Mercs, Opels &amp; Audi/VW as well. Hope you&#039;re happy with your German; I would be.

We&#039;re sweet mate, keep posting! :-)

The Realist, 330Ci or 335i, whatever. It&#039;s the one with the twin turbo six that keeps winning engine of the year awards.

:-)

I reckon it would be a good substitute for an M3.

Most of the performance &amp; handling, for less outlay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axe,</p>
<p>Any &amp; all help appreciated!<br />
Not a BMW? I like Mercs, Opels &amp; Audi/VW as well. Hope you&#8217;re happy with your German; I would be.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re sweet mate, keep posting! <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The Realist, 330Ci or 335i, whatever. It&#8217;s the one with the twin turbo six that keeps winning engine of the year awards.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I reckon it would be a good substitute for an M3.</p>
<p>Most of the performance &amp; handling, for less outlay.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20794/gm-cancels-holden-global-rwd-platform/#comment-111596</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Realist - GM have released a statement outlining their restructuring plans etc... in it it mentions the companies that GM will be Holden onto and Holden is one of them Opel is another..

So given that GM will survive one way or another [the US govt won&#039;t let em go bust] in the end Holden will also be there [because our govt won&#039;t let em go bust either]

However; my point was that maybe if GM took advantage of the experience and expertise their subsidiaries have to offer and if they used the Global and flexible platforms such as the Zeta paltform earlier they might not be in so much trouble</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Realist &#8211; GM have released a statement outlining their restructuring plans etc&#8230; in it it mentions the companies that GM will be Holden onto and Holden is one of them Opel is another..</p>
<p>So given that GM will survive one way or another [the US govt won't let em go bust] in the end Holden will also be there [because our govt won't let em go bust either]</p>
<p>However; my point was that maybe if GM took advantage of the experience and expertise their subsidiaries have to offer and if they used the Global and flexible platforms such as the Zeta paltform earlier they might not be in so much trouble</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile (.)(.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Richo for explaining to the “Realist” he obviously needs to get a new name !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Richo for explaining to the “Realist” he obviously needs to get a new name !</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20794/gm-cancels-holden-global-rwd-platform/#comment-111527</link>
		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Realist - Bavarian Missile was not being patriotic through thinking Holden is an Australian company which i know BM is smart enough to know isn&#039;t the case, she was referring to the fact that Commodores and Falcons are made in Australia giving Australian&#039;s jobs etc. Are you really so stupid as to not understand that? And you have the hide to refer to BM’s comments as “ridiculous”

And Bimmer, Beemer, as if anyone really gives the slightest ounch of shit, but just to make you look a bit stupider then you have done by yourself, according to the Encarta dictionary, the words &quot;beemer&quot; and &quot;beamer&quot; are &quot;informal references to the automobile manufacturer &quot;BMW&quot;. No reference is made to your spelling of &quot;bimmer&quot; you bloody idiot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Realist &#8211; Bavarian Missile was not being patriotic through thinking Holden is an Australian company which i know BM is smart enough to know isn&#8217;t the case, she was referring to the fact that Commodores and Falcons are made in Australia giving Australian&#8217;s jobs etc. Are you really so stupid as to not understand that? And you have the hide to refer to BM’s comments as “ridiculous”</p>
<p>And Bimmer, Beemer, as if anyone really gives the slightest ounch of shit, but just to make you look a bit stupider then you have done by yourself, according to the Encarta dictionary, the words &#8220;beemer&#8221; and &#8220;beamer&#8221; are &#8220;informal references to the automobile manufacturer &#8220;BMW&#8221;. No reference is made to your spelling of &#8220;bimmer&#8221; you bloody idiot</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut Says: 
January 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm 
&quot;This is by no means intended to be a shot at Americans its just that if you’ve got the resources which can help improve your products why wouldn’t you use them?&quot;

Broadly I would agree, however there is so much more at stake for GM than worrying about the fate of one of their smaller operations (in Oz). I don&#039;t know the detailed implications of the current crisis or situation within GM, as I am very sure the rest of the arm chair experts here don&#039;t, but some sections of their company are going to be disappointed.

Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . ) Says: 
January 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm 
&quot;I will always be Australian enough to say the local product Holden and Ford create will always be worth buying, saving and sticking up for !
After all , Sumo wrestling,Sushi,Humpback Whales and Toyotas just doest have the same ring as, Footballs,meatpies,Kangaroos and Holden cars ;)&quot;

That&#039;s it, keep up the patriotism - Holden and Ford count on that to prop up their miniscule non-fleet sales.

BTW - Holden is an American company, in case you didn&#039;t know. So your uninformed association above is ridiculous. Just like 75% of what you type.

JasonP Says: 
January 18th, 2009 at 7:12 pm 
&quot;Seriously considering either an R32 or an S3 next time.
friend of mine has an 08 330Ci twin turbo, &amp; loves it.&quot;

335i !!!

JasonP Says: 
January 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm 
&quot;I love Beemers too, but Chris Bangle has a lot to answer for………&quot;

BIMMER!!!

JasonP Says: 
January 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm 
&quot;Enjoy whatever Beemer you drive, &amp; I’ll enjoy my SS&quot;

It&#039;s Bimmer. Now you&#039;re starting to sound like a journalist from Wheels magazine mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut Says:<br />
January 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm<br />
&#8220;This is by no means intended to be a shot at Americans its just that if you’ve got the resources which can help improve your products why wouldn’t you use them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Broadly I would agree, however there is so much more at stake for GM than worrying about the fate of one of their smaller operations (in Oz). I don&#8217;t know the detailed implications of the current crisis or situation within GM, as I am very sure the rest of the arm chair experts here don&#8217;t, but some sections of their company are going to be disappointed.</p>
<p>Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . ) Says:<br />
January 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm<br />
&#8220;I will always be Australian enough to say the local product Holden and Ford create will always be worth buying, saving and sticking up for !<br />
After all , Sumo wrestling,Sushi,Humpback Whales and Toyotas just doest have the same ring as, Footballs,meatpies,Kangaroos and Holden cars <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it, keep up the patriotism &#8211; Holden and Ford count on that to prop up their miniscule non-fleet sales.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Holden is an American company, in case you didn&#8217;t know. So your uninformed association above is ridiculous. Just like 75% of what you type.</p>
<p>JasonP Says:<br />
January 18th, 2009 at 7:12 pm<br />
&#8220;Seriously considering either an R32 or an S3 next time.<br />
friend of mine has an 08 330Ci twin turbo, &amp; loves it.&#8221;</p>
<p>335i !!!</p>
<p>JasonP Says:<br />
January 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm<br />
&#8220;I love Beemers too, but Chris Bangle has a lot to answer for………&#8221;</p>
<p>BIMMER!!!</p>
<p>JasonP Says:<br />
January 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm<br />
&#8220;Enjoy whatever Beemer you drive, &amp; I’ll enjoy my SS&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Bimmer. Now you&#8217;re starting to sound like a journalist from Wheels magazine mate.</p>
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		<title>By: FORD4EVA</title>
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		<dc:creator>FORD4EVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think everyone is going way over the top they are still going to makerear wheel drive cars just on same platform.Still got a couple of more models in it. VF and so forth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think everyone is going way over the top they are still going to makerear wheel drive cars just on same platform.Still got a couple of more models in it. VF and so forth</p>
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		<title>By: jekyl and hyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>jekyl and hyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bencong,

bet you bought a silver one,didn&#039;t you.seen more than one going in for a full respray.will go with you on the leather too.you should be venting to a holden service centre manager though,no one here really cares...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bencong,</p>
<p>bet you bought a silver one,didn&#8217;t you.seen more than one going in for a full respray.will go with you on the leather too.you should be venting to a holden service centre manager though,no one here really cares&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richio is right... I mean Becong should have been aware of the SV6s short comings etc particularly given that so many journos have made note of the rough idle the lack of sound deadening material not to mention the out-dated automnatic.

BTW: Becong; Andrew M was saying that both the Falcon and Commodore utes are better than the Japs not the sedans/ 
Mind you the Japanese don&#039;t actually make Utes they make Pick-ups [Hilux Triton Navara]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richio is right&#8230; I mean Becong should have been aware of the SV6s short comings etc particularly given that so many journos have made note of the rough idle the lack of sound deadening material not to mention the out-dated automnatic.</p>
<p>BTW: Becong; Andrew M was saying that both the Falcon and Commodore utes are better than the Japs not the sedans/<br />
Mind you the Japanese don&#8217;t actually make Utes they make Pick-ups [Hilux Triton Navara]</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zorro - care to read my other posts, particularly those where i say the FG is a much better car then the VE commodore.. seriously all i was saying is that bencong sounded like he was making stuff up, because all the things he mentioned are things you would pick up on a test drive, so why did he buy it? It&#039;s not like he bought it and then had alot of reliability problems which can obviously happen to people and you wouldn&#039;t know about it on a test drive, but when you buy a car and then complain about the way it looks, quality of the interior, engine noise etc, these are all things you would notice before you bought it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zorro &#8211; care to read my other posts, particularly those where i say the FG is a much better car then the VE commodore.. seriously all i was saying is that bencong sounded like he was making stuff up, because all the things he mentioned are things you would pick up on a test drive, so why did he buy it? It&#8217;s not like he bought it and then had alot of reliability problems which can obviously happen to people and you wouldn&#8217;t know about it on a test drive, but when you buy a car and then complain about the way it looks, quality of the interior, engine noise etc, these are all things you would notice before you bought it</p>
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