Comments on: GM cancels Holden global RWD platform

By: Duck

Duck — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:34:44 +0000

GM says……….”lets ditch the wonderfully aussie built and designed Zeta platform and go back to our old sh*t Sigma platform.”

By: jasonP

jasonP — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:51:32 +0000

Axe,

Any & all help appreciated!
Not a BMW? I like Mercs, Opels & Audi/VW as well. Hope you’re happy with your German; I would be.

We’re sweet mate, keep posting! :-)

The Realist, 330Ci or 335i, whatever. It’s the one with the twin turbo six that keeps winning engine of the year awards.

:-)

I reckon it would be a good substitute for an M3.

Most of the performance & handling, for less outlay.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:09:25 +0000

The Realist – GM have released a statement outlining their restructuring plans etc… in it it mentions the companies that GM will be Holden onto and Holden is one of them Opel is another..

So given that GM will survive one way or another [the US govt won't let em go bust] in the end Holden will also be there [because our govt won't let em go bust either]

However; my point was that maybe if GM took advantage of the experience and expertise their subsidiaries have to offer and if they used the Global and flexible platforms such as the Zeta paltform earlier they might not be in so much trouble

By: Bavarian Missile (.)(.)

Bavarian Missile (.)(.) — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:37:20 +0000

Thanks Richo for explaining to the “Realist” he obviously needs to get a new name !

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:47:59 +0000

The Realist – Bavarian Missile was not being patriotic through thinking Holden is an Australian company which i know BM is smart enough to know isn’t the case, she was referring to the fact that Commodores and Falcons are made in Australia giving Australian’s jobs etc. Are you really so stupid as to not understand that? And you have the hide to refer to BM’s comments as “ridiculous”

And Bimmer, Beemer, as if anyone really gives the slightest ounch of shit, but just to make you look a bit stupider then you have done by yourself, according to the Encarta dictionary, the words “beemer” and “beamer” are “informal references to the automobile manufacturer “BMW”. No reference is made to your spelling of “bimmer” you bloody idiot

By: The Realist

The Realist — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:25:48 +0000

Wheelnut Says:
January 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
“This is by no means intended to be a shot at Americans its just that if you’ve got the resources which can help improve your products why wouldn’t you use them?”

Broadly I would agree, however there is so much more at stake for GM than worrying about the fate of one of their smaller operations (in Oz). I don’t know the detailed implications of the current crisis or situation within GM, as I am very sure the rest of the arm chair experts here don’t, but some sections of their company are going to be disappointed.

Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . ) Says:
January 18th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
“I will always be Australian enough to say the local product Holden and Ford create will always be worth buying, saving and sticking up for !
After all , Sumo wrestling,Sushi,Humpback Whales and Toyotas just doest have the same ring as, Footballs,meatpies,Kangaroos and Holden cars ;)”

That’s it, keep up the patriotism – Holden and Ford count on that to prop up their miniscule non-fleet sales.

BTW – Holden is an American company, in case you didn’t know. So your uninformed association above is ridiculous. Just like 75% of what you type.

JasonP Says:
January 18th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
“Seriously considering either an R32 or an S3 next time.
friend of mine has an 08 330Ci twin turbo, & loves it.”

335i !!!

JasonP Says:
January 18th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
“I love Beemers too, but Chris Bangle has a lot to answer for………”

BIMMER!!!

JasonP Says:
January 18th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
“Enjoy whatever Beemer you drive, & I’ll enjoy my SS”

It’s Bimmer. Now you’re starting to sound like a journalist from Wheels magazine mate.

By: FORD4EVA

FORD4EVA — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:41:40 +0000

i think everyone is going way over the top they are still going to makerear wheel drive cars just on same platform.Still got a couple of more models in it. VF and so forth

By: jekyl and hyde

jekyl and hyde — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:03:08 +0000

bencong,

bet you bought a silver one,didn’t you.seen more than one going in for a full respray.will go with you on the leather too.you should be venting to a holden service centre manager though,no one here really cares…

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:28:11 +0000

Richio is right… I mean Becong should have been aware of the SV6s short comings etc particularly given that so many journos have made note of the rough idle the lack of sound deadening material not to mention the out-dated automnatic.

BTW: Becong; Andrew M was saying that both the Falcon and Commodore utes are better than the Japs not the sedans/
Mind you the Japanese don’t actually make Utes they make Pick-ups [Hilux Triton Navara]

By: Richo

Richo — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:43:25 +0000

Zorro – care to read my other posts, particularly those where i say the FG is a much better car then the VE commodore.. seriously all i was saying is that bencong sounded like he was making stuff up, because all the things he mentioned are things you would pick up on a test drive, so why did he buy it? It’s not like he bought it and then had alot of reliability problems which can obviously happen to people and you wouldn’t know about it on a test drive, but when you buy a car and then complain about the way it looks, quality of the interior, engine noise etc, these are all things you would notice before you bought it

By: Zorro

Zorro — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:47:31 +0000

1st there was Dingo who wouldn’t allow a bad word about Toyota to go un-challenged.

Now we have Richo that says people are full of sh-t if they dare express a view of Holden that he doesn’t approve of.

CA, can’t you ban these guy’s so we can get on with intelligent discussion??

By: Richo

Richo — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:33:57 +0000

Bencong – couple of points, first of all you would think you would have picked up on these things before you bought it, second you say you could never previously see fault in GM products, presumably meaning you have bought them before, yet the best commodore they have made so far (whether you like commodores or not its pretty clear that the VE is the best one they have made) is the one where you suddenly realised they are crap… things not adding up!

By: bencong

bencong — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:18:03 +0000

had a ve sv6 for 7 months what a peice of crap noisy rough engine a 5 speed auto that realy had no idea what was required,cheap and nasty interior most uncomfortable seats rock hard leather.good panel fit ruined by a heap of paint blemishes.not a nice car at all.i was one of those people that truely beleived that holden was the be all and end all of motor cars i could never see fault in any gm product,so i must say thank you to gm for making me see the error of my ways by making something so awfull that i could no longer live with this delusion.i agree with a previous comment most wouldnt know if they drove a fwd.oh and andrew m most upmarket jap stuff run rings around the commodore in the interior stakes except aus made toyotas.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:01:56 +0000

Frugal one,
i agree,
when holden makes a few changes to their ute, it will be the one not to go past.

you left out a few upgrades needed too by the way.

how about you add better engines firstly before putting it on LPG,
and how about better tranny too,
oh and how about a better interior???? that wouldnt go astray,
oh and then rid the terrible blindspots put into the commy ute in the interest of keeping style higher on the list than practicallity???

the commy ute isnt built with one ounce of practicallity in it.
i cant see them changing that formula overnight.

but in saying that I’d rather be getting round in a commy ute over a crapper Japper, thats when interior standards and comfort go right out the window

By: axe

axe — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:42:11 +0000

Its ok mate, will help you out of the gutter anytime :)

I said I drive german not BMW, try reading toots :)

By: JasonP

JasonP — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:02:28 +0000

Axe,

Can’t wait for your next deeply insightful critique.

OK, I’m a Bogan, cause I drive a Commodore.

Oh well…..

:-)

As long as you keep the streets well swept, we’ll all be happy.

:-)

Have always bought whatever I liked, & thanks for your permission to continue to do so.

Enjoy whatever Beemer you drive, & I’ll enjoy my SS.

By: jon

jon — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:58:51 +0000

Haha, my comments were a deliberate shit stir and gee it worked, get a life losers. like if i give a toss whether Holden or Ford goes front wheel drive, like seriously most of the people driving them wouldn`t even know.

By: axe

axe — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:46:45 +0000

Gee Jason, just relax mate, last time I looked it cost about $570.00 to register a company and nominate yourself as managing director.

318? Nahh, not even close, feel better tho :)

Global product development vice-chairman Bob Lutz, OK whatever. Buy whatever you like guys, I relly couldnt give a $@#$ :)

By: Frugal--One

Frugal--One — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:42:44 +0000

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Who cares what GM does in USA

These are the facts -

Commodore, #1 seller in Oz for 13 years straight.

Well exported and accepted around the globe.

The market has spoken!

Crickey, when they build the cab-chassis Ute again WIRH-A-BENCH-SEAT and DEDICATED-INJECTED-LPG i will put my hand up for one [Bye to Falcon!]

Cheers

F-0

By: Richo

Richo — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:46:35 +0000

aww stuff it one more for good measure:

Avalon