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		<title>By: therealdeal</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20701/chinese-automakers-face-zero-growth-in-2009/#comment-172218</link>
		<dc:creator>therealdeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Prefer something made in India if I must.

Wait till the Indians hit their straps.Very clever people that up until now have been over whelmed as a nation by circumstance.&quot;

U just go ahead and buy a Mahindra, it WILL be worse than say a Great Wall. Both makes are here so why don&#039;t you qualify your statements rather than just utter BS?

Clever people overwhelmed as a nation by circumstance...what does that even mean? That statement could possibly include every developing nation in the world, and certainly China. The Chinese are no less clever and deeply overwhelmed by circumstances, the cultural revolution, the Korean war, the failed great leap forward, has certainly done them no favours. Yet we&#039;re here today with China developing much faster in a majority of fields. There is a reason why your TV at home is not &#039;Made in India&#039;, and if you do not understand why then perhaps you should join the Indian&#039;s whom your addressed as &#039;very clever people&#039; together in denial

$0.02

Yes, all that copying is a joke, though i am no as ignorant to think that it happens across the board. Put it this way, all the Japanese and Korean makers today started out the exact same way, and the people that it disadvantages are certainly not your everyday consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Prefer something made in India if I must.</p>
<p>Wait till the Indians hit their straps.Very clever people that up until now have been over whelmed as a nation by circumstance.&#8221;</p>
<p>U just go ahead and buy a Mahindra, it WILL be worse than say a Great Wall. Both makes are here so why don&#8217;t you qualify your statements rather than just utter BS?</p>
<p>Clever people overwhelmed as a nation by circumstance&#8230;what does that even mean? That statement could possibly include every developing nation in the world, and certainly China. The Chinese are no less clever and deeply overwhelmed by circumstances, the cultural revolution, the Korean war, the failed great leap forward, has certainly done them no favours. Yet we&#8217;re here today with China developing much faster in a majority of fields. There is a reason why your TV at home is not &#8216;Made in India&#8217;, and if you do not understand why then perhaps you should join the Indian&#8217;s whom your addressed as &#8216;very clever people&#8217; together in denial</p>
<p>$0.02</p>
<p>Yes, all that copying is a joke, though i am no as ignorant to think that it happens across the board. Put it this way, all the Japanese and Korean makers today started out the exact same way, and the people that it disadvantages are certainly not your everyday consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut,

On the money as always.

:-)

Or the way Falcon Wagon/Ute drivers think they have a modern rear suspension.

I know an Amish Guy who said, &quot;that&#039;s even too basic for us!!!!!&quot;

New ad slogan : Toyota; You Don&#039;t Have To... but for some unknown reason, You Probably Will&quot;.

Irony; Toyota fans blogging on a car enthusiasts site.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut,</p>
<p>On the money as always.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Or the way Falcon Wagon/Ute drivers think they have a modern rear suspension.</p>
<p>I know an Amish Guy who said, &#8220;that&#8217;s even too basic for us!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>New ad slogan : Toyota; You Don&#8217;t Have To&#8230; but for some unknown reason, You Probably Will&#8221;.</p>
<p>Irony; Toyota fans blogging on a car enthusiasts site.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20701/chinese-automakers-face-zero-growth-in-2009/#comment-110729</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote [JasonP]: Having cheap ripoffs posing as the real thing devalues the original design.

The way an Extreme Terrorist devalues certain religious beliefs, 

Or the way an Extreme fan of a particular [Japanese] make of car often embarases the regular fans.

Or the way Hoons showing off in their &quot;fully schick&quot; [VK] Commodores gives the other Holden drivers a bad name

As always it&#039;s a case of the minority ruining it for the majority</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote [JasonP]: Having cheap ripoffs posing as the real thing devalues the original design.</p>
<p>The way an Extreme Terrorist devalues certain religious beliefs, </p>
<p>Or the way an Extreme fan of a particular [Japanese] make of car often embarases the regular fans.</p>
<p>Or the way Hoons showing off in their &#8220;fully schick&#8221; [VK] Commodores gives the other Holden drivers a bad name</p>
<p>As always it&#8217;s a case of the minority ruining it for the majority</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote [JasonP] Binladen.. If you know your stuff, you can almost always tell it’s a cheap ripoff, &amp; that the product is nowhere near the quality of the real thing.

It would be like someone blogging in your name…..you wouldn’t want the opinions of an illinformed nob to be expressed as if they were your own, would you?

Jason - given that 99.99% of Bin Ladens comments appear to be those of an ill-informed nob.... it would be hard to tell if it was him or not - should someone else use his name.

Everyone has their own individual writing style; that is the way they structure their sentences the words they use the grammar/spelling etc.. so even if there are those on here who use aliases or try to impersonate regular bloggers its often easy to tell that its not the real person or as you say - you can tell it’s a cheap ripoff,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote [JasonP] Binladen.. If you know your stuff, you can almost always tell it’s a cheap ripoff, &amp; that the product is nowhere near the quality of the real thing.</p>
<p>It would be like someone blogging in your name…..you wouldn’t want the opinions of an illinformed nob to be expressed as if they were your own, would you?</p>
<p>Jason &#8211; given that 99.99% of Bin Ladens comments appear to be those of an ill-informed nob&#8230;. it would be hard to tell if it was him or not &#8211; should someone else use his name.</p>
<p>Everyone has their own individual writing style; that is the way they structure their sentences the words they use the grammar/spelling etc.. so even if there are those on here who use aliases or try to impersonate regular bloggers its often easy to tell that its not the real person or as you say &#8211; you can tell it’s a cheap ripoff,</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Binladen,

It&#039;s like seeing someone with a fake Rolex or a fake Gucci Purse.
If you know your stuff, you can almost always tell it&#039;s a cheap ripoff, &amp; that the product is nowhere near the quality of the real thing.

It would be like someone blogging in your name.....you wouldn&#039;t want the opinions of an illinformed nob to be expressed as if they were your own, would you?

Having cheap ripoffs posing as the real thing devalues the original design.

The way an Extreme Terrorist devalues certain religious beliefs, Binladen.

Cupid Stunt, I saw her first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Binladen,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like seeing someone with a fake Rolex or a fake Gucci Purse.<br />
If you know your stuff, you can almost always tell it&#8217;s a cheap ripoff, &amp; that the product is nowhere near the quality of the real thing.</p>
<p>It would be like someone blogging in your name&#8230;..you wouldn&#8217;t want the opinions of an illinformed nob to be expressed as if they were your own, would you?</p>
<p>Having cheap ripoffs posing as the real thing devalues the original design.</p>
<p>The way an Extreme Terrorist devalues certain religious beliefs, Binladen.</p>
<p>Cupid Stunt, I saw her first!</p>
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		<title>By: binladen</title>
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		<dc:creator>binladen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing wrong in copying cars. Making cars is like driving cars. U learn first, which is coping how the good drivers drive, so it is L-plate. Then if you are good, after a few years becomes silver, then eventually gold. The back of i-30 looks like benz, so what? The same thing applies to China just like Korean and Japan. Australia is not even L-plate yet, coz Holden is quite happy to lick G.M &#039;s ass which is going to maybe bankrupt anyway. It is time for Aussie to WAKE THE BLOODY UP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong in copying cars. Making cars is like driving cars. U learn first, which is coping how the good drivers drive, so it is L-plate. Then if you are good, after a few years becomes silver, then eventually gold. The back of i-30 looks like benz, so what? The same thing applies to China just like Korean and Japan. Australia is not even L-plate yet, coz Holden is quite happy to lick G.M &#8216;s ass which is going to maybe bankrupt anyway. It is time for Aussie to WAKE THE BLOODY UP!</p>
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		<title>By: JasonP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BM (.)(.)

Yeah, they look real.

You can spot quality from a mile away. I&#039;d assume they&#039;re like an M3? (High performance, &amp; handle well?)

Glad they&#039;re Australian Made. I really value local content.

The Chinese models would be smaller no doubt.

There&#039;s probably a Dual Airbag joke in there somewhere too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BM (.)(.)</p>
<p>Yeah, they look real.</p>
<p>You can spot quality from a mile away. I&#8217;d assume they&#8217;re like an M3? (High performance, &amp; handle well?)</p>
<p>Glad they&#8217;re Australian Made. I really value local content.</p>
<p>The Chinese models would be smaller no doubt.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably a Dual Airbag joke in there somewhere too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . )</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmmmmmmm that didnt work either.......... I tried using the side arrows with a dot in the middle and got nothing when I posted it .Never seen that happen on the site before ?Anyway you get the idea ............;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmmmmmm that didnt work either&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. I tried using the side arrows with a dot in the middle and got nothing when I posted it .Never seen that happen on the site before ?Anyway you get the idea &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . )</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JasonP quote &quot;BM (.)(.) (hope that’s accurate by the way; perfectly symmetrical :-) )


hahaha ,Australain made and there real, China knock off  version 
   hahahaha .............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JasonP quote &#8220;BM (.)(.) (hope that’s accurate by the way; perfectly symmetrical <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>hahaha ,Australain made and there real, China knock off  version<br />
   hahahaha &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . )</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile ( . ) ( . )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too right Realcars.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too right Realcars&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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