Sales of medium cars surged beyond those of large cars in Australia for the first time in 2012, with the locally produced Toyota Camry leading the charge.

After coming up just short of the large-car segment in 2011 (75,984 versus 78,077), the medium class rocketed past it in 2012. Sales soared 15.4 per cent to 87,674 units, while large cars plummeted to 63,096, down 19.2 per cent from the previous year.

The new-generation Toyota Camry was dominant at the top with 27,230 sales, up 42.1 per cent over 2011. The Camry Hybrid accounted for a quarter of those sales (7107), and would rank second outright in the segment if it was split from the conventional Camry. Backed by a zero per cent finance offer, the Camry Hybrid enjoyed its best sales month in December as 1143 left showrooms – incredibly, humbling the Ford Falcon sedan by 32 units.

The Mercedes-Benz C-Class (6676) claimed second place ahead of the Mazda6 (6558) and Honda Accord Euro (6155) – both of which are significantly cheaper than the premium German mid-sizer.

The BMW 3 Series made it two premium models inside the top five, rising 30.7 per cent in 2012 to 5493 sales, displacing the Ford Mondeo, which dropped 21.5 per cent to 5203 sales and sixth position.

The Subaru Liberty and Volkswagen Passat both enjoyed double-digit percentage growth in 2012, while the Hyundai i45 and Audi A4 slipped in the opposite direction at similar rates, leaving the Volkswagen Jetta just 109 adrift of the top 10.

 

Top 20 best-selling medium cars – 2012

  1. Toyota Camry – 27,230 (+42.1 per cent)
  2. Mercedes-Benz C-Class – 6676 (+3.9 per cent)
  3. Mazda6 – 6558 (+13.2 per cent)
  4. Honda Accord Euro – 6155 (+26.2 per cent)
  5. BMW 3 Series – 5493 (+30.7 per cent)
  6. Ford Mondeo – 5203 (–21.5 per cent)
  7. Subaru Liberty – 4407 (+13.1 per cent)
  8. Volkswagen Passat – 4362 (+27.5 per cent)
  9. Hyundai i45 – 3640 (–25.3 per cent)
  10. Audi A4 – 2746 (–11.6 per cent)
  11. Volkswagen Jetta – 2637 (+58.2 per cent)
  12. Hyundai i40 – 2392 (+507.1 per cent)
  13. Kia Optima – 2267 (+173.8 per cent)
  14. Lexus IS – 2123 (–20.6 per cent)
  15. Suzuki Kizashi – 1020 (–35.9 per cent)
  16. Skoda Octavia – 914 (–41.3 per cent)
  17. Volvo S60/V60 – 904 (–22.9 per cent)
  18. Audi A5 Sportback – 908 (+2.7 per cent)
  19. Volkswagen Passat CC – 848 (+33.1 per cent)
  20. Renault Latitude – 326 (+31.5 per cent)


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  • MisterZed

    How on earth does a rubbish car like a Falcon sell 14,000 cars yet the i45 sells 3,600?

    • Alpha

       So obviously you’ve never been in an FG.

      • Mac

        Possibly hes been in an FG……but he doesnt want others to have things better than what he has .

    • Al Tungupon

      You are a self-righteous bigot. I don’t remember the i45 having dynamics in its vocabulary. And don’t you ever call the hardworking locals at Broadie bogans.

      • MisterZed

        Australia is the only country in the world where a Falcon would outsell an i45. If you put the two cars on the market in any other country the i45 would outsell it, easily.

        • Hung Low

          I highly doubt that, the refinement, engine, ride, handling and exterior of the Falcon is way ahead of the Sonata….um I45.

        • Sdfg

           Wrong, Falcoone outsells i45 in New Zealand.

        • matt

          more crystal ball predictions? you would have no idea…. if the falcon outsells it in the one country its sold in…. logic suggests it would do the same else where…. or is logic abit to much for your i-sheep head?

          • Sumpguard

            Based on your logic the mazda 3 should be Japan’s top selling car. Not even close.

        • DanielD

          I’ve driven both for a few weeks on end as rental cars. The i45 is a big step forward for Hyundai. That said the steering is completely lifeless and the suspension tune is no where near as good as the Falcon – any Falcon.

        • Blair Waldorf

           having driven both, the i45 really is terrible in comparison to the Falcon. Put the two on the EU market (where neither are currently sold) and i have a feeling the Falcon will wipe the floor with the Hyundai, and i say that as someone who isnt really a ford fan/has never owned one

          • $29896495

            Read a test and saw the video test on one the other day from a different site. Bagged the handling and performance of the i45, also the quality of materials and the performance. They wondered why it was so slow when the numbers for out put were so high.

            Interesting huh.

          • Asdf

             Yes, Wheels tested the i45 in their Oct 2010 edition. 0-100kmh in 9.2 secs for the 148KW 2.4
            Yet the Passat 118tsi did 8.7 secs with only 118KW.

            A extra 30KW of power in the i45 and it’s a sizeable 1/2 a sec slower to 100kmh! Where is that 30KW going?

        • Troll

          dude the i45 is mediocre as….

          we’ve torn one down to study its panel structures and parts and there’s nothing to learn from it.

          Its exterior has all these chrome and the paint job is nice but poor to mediocre built car.

          Anyways stop justifying your i45 purchase on this site, if you’re happy with it then so be it. Bagging ford and being a bigot wont convince people you’re right, more likely to discredit your opinion from here on out… but who cares eh? its a site full of trolls.

      • Mark

        If they’re so hardworking why do we keep having to pay for them. We all work hard yet somehow the locals at broadmedows have to be payed for by everyone else. Reason enough never to buy local.

        • DanielD

          You need to learn about the 13 countries that manufacture cars and how the industry works and then you would know your objections to buying local are nonsensical.

        • Mac

          What do u produce in your work ??…….if you actually are capable of it……..i will make sure i dont buy a damn thing whats passed thru ur grubby fingers……then go and join the dole queue urself !!

    • Mac

      and your saying the i45 isnt rubbish ??……did your brains go out with your latest rubbish bin mate ??……you joker !!!

    • Fairlane

      MisterZed does your Z stand for Zero,reflecting the Zero style comments?

    • F1orce

      Beats me.

    • Zaccy16

      because the falcon doesn’t have numb lifeless steering or pogo stick suspension or a face only a mother could love or a wheezy 4 cyl engine!

    • Michael

      The Falcon is not rubbish, the i45, like all big front drivers aimed at Americans is rubbish

    • CAM09

      The hyundai i45 is rubbish not surprised it only came 9th in the medium segment its way overpriced! They would sell if they were $19,990,Most people would rather a Camry as the figures show! 

    • Bell

      the I45 is one of the worst medium sized cars around, I hate getting them as rentals. Unrefined, slow, sloppy steering and suspension, use too much fuel and too cramped.  No wonder they have been discontinued from Australia

    • Hague

      Kind of ironic saying this on Caradvice, where Caradvice themself compared the Falcon Ecoboost favourably to the Mercedes E Class and BMW 5 series in a recent review.

  • Tim

    I’d love to know the dimensions of the Camry, when compared to a Commodore or Falcon. I doubt it’s much smaller, but the ‘medium’ tag seems to help it.

    • MisterZed

      The Camry is much smaller. It has a very short wheelbase which hasn’t increased at all in about 10 years. Definitely a true medium size car.

      • Alpha

        Is that an attempt at being funny? I’m not sure if it’s humor or ignorance – can you shed a little light?

      • $29896495

        Definitely not a medium size car as the figures show – The Aurion length disparity is bumper bar only. The only thing that makes Camry medium is it’s motor (4 instead of 6) and the PR department, who have been pushing this in advertising. So it’s the big car you have when you aren’t having a big car. 

        That’s the amazing thing about the Australian public. Rather than think for themselves, they like to be led. Advertising dollars speaks volumes, then places like CA pick up on the PR as well, rather than step up and say it’s BS. It’s like a snake chasing it’s tail.

        Just like politics.

      • Sydlocal

         You may need to check some of your facts MisterZed. The Camry HAS changed its wheelbase in the last 10 years. Whilst the new one has about the same wheelbase as the previous version, it is longer than the one before that (2002-2006, within your 10 year window) by around 5cm. It also may be a fair bit smaller than a Commodore, but it has a much bigger boot (like many medium sized cars), hybrid aside! ;-)

        • $29896495

          The thing is many cars considered medium because they have been slowly expanding are now full size cars. Passat being one, mentioned on here by some one. Cars are generally considered full size when their width hits 1800. It’s the way it’s always been. Length is over 4.5 metres. The Camry/Aurion is within a cigarette paper – so to speak – of the so called big cars. Check out the dimensions of ALL three big cars in my post below. 

          Just as a matter of interest here are the 300 L/W/H 5066/1905/? not provided.

          • $29896495

            If you don’t understand how little the difference between these cars is, get a ruler out.

      • Karl Sass

        It has a smaller wheelbase because you can’t push the front wheels out to reduce front over hang in a front wheel drive car. The wheels need to be where the engine/transmission is.

    • auto

      Camry – 4815 x 1825 x 1470, 2775 (L x W x H, WB)
      Aurion – 4835 x 1825 x 1470, 2775
      :-) Hope this helps.

    • $29896495

      Thank God you brought it up, Camry is essentially the same size as the Falcon and Commodore.width, these are the dimensions respectively - 1825 / 1868 / 1899 about the same length 4815 / 4967/ 4903 (in the old money roughly half an inch) height 1470 / 1433 / 1471. Advertising it as medium because it has a 4 cylinder is the key. A lot of old cardigans are very gullible. Wheelbase – 2775 / 2838 / 2915

      Maybe Ford should have changed the name of the ecoboost Falcon and pulled the same stunt.

    • Sydlocal

       Easy, go to the Toyota and Holden/Ford website and compare. All the information is there for everyone to see.

  • Antmindel

    This is a very good bunch of cars,and very competitive.

    I am sure the segment will continur to grow…

  • Al Tungupon

    The newly launched 3 Series should start selling very well this year. And Mazda ought to do the 6 MPS again.

  • Shak

    People should take into account the fact that the Medium Car class has a lot more competitors that the large car class. If you look at that in perspective the Large car class itself is still doing pretty well, even though sales are dropping. 

  • Andrew Diablo

    Hyundai I40 and Kia Optima are biggest gainers..(in terms of %)

    • matt

      being their first full year on sale i dont doubt it, kia also introduced a cheaper “si” optima last year too

  • Galaxy

    Falcon vs i45.  All comes down to Fleet and Private sales.  If you look at Camry 1st and daylight second to the C class, shows just how small the category would be if Toyota wasn’t pushing heaps of these to corporate business.  For what it’s worth, I would have more confidence in long term reliability of an i45 compared to Falcon. Had my fair share of company falcodores over 20 years (incl Territory) to know that Ford makes great Aussie road cars but struggles with non-mechanical reliability and durability. 

    • Sydlocal

       A bit like the Commodore. Great highway cruising with very good mechanical reliablity, but they are always blowing tail/brake lights and bits of trim/rubber are always falling off. Plus a Commodore with a properly fitting fuel filler cap is few and far between, especially from VT onwards. At least the strike rate for the VE seems to be a little bit better! Just as well these things have no effect on longevity.

      • Asdfgh

        You can’t blame the car for blowing light bulbs, something is seriously wrong with your comment. The light bulbs connect to the 12V car battery through a switch, it’s only 12V across the light bulb. 

        • Sydlocal

          That first bit was an attempt at humour as I see more Commodores with blown tail lights than any other, which is more a reflection on the driver/owner and not the car itself. Although I do know some people (family and close friends) with VR/VS vintage Commodores that are regularlily blowing tail/brake lights, well more often than you would consider normal.  Still doesn’t change the bit about the interior trim and fuel filler cap!

          Anyhow, you can sometimes blame a car for constantly/often blowing tail lights etc as there can be more than 12V going through the electrical system, in fact it should have more than 12V when the car is running. Just because it is a ’12V’ battery, it doesn’t always mean only 12V is going through the electrical system. With the alternator charging etc there can be over 14V going through the system. Then you could have various shorts/voltage spikes from dodgy regulators etc that can easily blow something as fragile as a globe filament. It is not quite as simple as you are making it out to be…

      • Sdfg

         AU and BA Falcoones seem to have a problem with headlights blowing. I often see them driving around at night with a front headlight out. Often the driver is annoyingly using the highbeam to make up for the reduced lighting from a single side. A fairly accurate way to pick out a oncoming taxi at night here is to look for a very bright, offset single headlight.

    • Blair Waldorf

       So if you discount the (very large proportion of ) fleet sales from the Camry sales, the Merc C-Class might (just) be Australia’s best selling medium car, especially if you add C-Class Coupe sales ontop of the sedan sales. That says a lot because i highly doubt people spend much under $70k on a base C-Class with a few options drive away. So if a $70k+ car is our best selling mid-sized car, we must all be doing pretty well…

      • Sdfg

         Basically all the C class’ u see are bottom of the range C200s and I’d say most buyers get free on road costs & a couple of options thrown in as well for a drive away price not much different to the base $57K – of which is probably put under finance or a lease.

        • Fxcvbc

          Agreed, Phil.

      • $29896495

        The Camry shouldn’t be in this list. As for C Class, I would have thought that the price would put it in a different category. Same with BMW 3 series. Passat is a full size car now too, also if it is going in the list the two Passats should be added together which puts it up the list. Audi A5 should be out too. Volvo S60/V60 is also full size.

        A more realist list for main stream medium would be:-Mazda 6Ford MondeoSubaru LibertyAudi A4VW JettaHyundai i40Kia OptimaSuzuki KizashiSkoda Octavia

  • The Real Wile E

    Audi A4 sold half of the 3 series and almost a third of the C class.
    Ouch!
    Audi needs to lift its A4 game with product and especially pricing –  12% down on last year is just not good enough.

  • itsme

    I love how they call camry medium and aurion large car.Same car different engines. Lets see so we could say the same for the falcon.The falcon 4 is medium and the falcon 6 is large.This would be just same as toyota

    • Mr Me

      I know what you’re saying, but the dismal sales of the Falcon this year would mean the numbers would be even lower. Below 14k. I don’t think Ford can live with those numbers.

      If Toyota put the Camry and Aurion sales together it takes them to over 36000 and out does the Commodore.

      With 9k Aurions in 2012 and 27k Camry’s, I don’t think Toyota are too stressed. Ford on the other hand…

  • Drive

    Could CA please comment on why they think Mondeo has taken such a hit in sales?

    • Asdf

       I would imagine it’s something to do with having the least powerful engine in the class combined with the most weight and the worst economy. The much better ecoboost and Diesels are too expensive.

      • $29896495

        Probably yes to expensive, but you also have to take into account the news of the new Mondeo and it’s improvements, mean while, the older model is still being sold here. There are probably a lot of would be buyers who feel put out by that. Or they are waiting for run out deals or 0% finance which never came from Ford.

  • Andrew M

    Its interesting how they listed the break down on the medium car class, would like to see the same for the large car class, im sure it ould be nowhere near 20 entrants.

    Average ou the sales per entry and the large cars would still be beating it.

    Once again take out the Camry which is heavily flogged with cheap finance and to fleets and the next best sells in a year what the commodore sells in a couple of months.

    Sales in Australia are really spread to a point where no vehicle in particular actually dominates on monthly sales like the Commodore and Falcon did in their hay days

    • Duff_beer26

      Remember too, we have something like 67 different brands in Aus where the market is about 1.1M. The USA have 38 brands in a  market of about 14m. My point is, I don’t think we will ever see a car dominate ever again, like the Holden and Ford once did.

      Remember Holden and Toyota both had cheap 0% finance (or close enough to 0%) and both are heavily flogged to fleets; The Toyota more so.

      The more interesting would be the statistics showing sales to private customers. I believe that’s where the Mazda 3 dominated.

      It’s funny you know, I love my Mazda 3 SP25… but in hindsight I think the Honda Euro is a better car. They had massive sales on the Euro and even though it’s an older car, things like sound deadening in the doors to reduce sound coming in and the seats are far far better than the 3.

      If I had my time again, I’d be in the Honda. Both are expensive as buggery to maintain and service so that doesn’t bother me too much.

      • Asdf

         The list of brands in the “2012 New Car Sales Figures Total” shows there are only 50 brands in Australia  – and that 50 includes brands like Saab and Hummer which are long gone.

      • Andrew M

        You may be right with the sound deadening, ive never driven both back to back.

        What I do know is the Mazda 3 is a far more enjoyable and responsive vehicle to drive, especially the SP25.
        I would also argue that the Mazda would be cheaper to fix and maintain, and there wouldnt be a wait on parts which is very typical of Hondas.

        I also dont rate Hondas interiors, when they age the gain a lot of rattles and squeaks which other brands get picked on for.

        When I counted brands i only tally just under 60, but the point still remains on how spread sales are.

        Cheap finance has done the trick without a doubt, its obvious people want cheap credit to be able to live out of their means.

        The car showrooms are starting to do what got people into trouble in the property market. cheap and easy credit with the debt sold on. Lets hope they are regulating it a bit better……but probably not

  • The Real Wile E

    This is a volume meter not a smart buy meter.
    No point getting too excited. by the numbers.

  • Michael

    The large car class consists only of the Falcon, Commodore, Aurion, Accord, Maxima, E Class, 5 Series, A6, XF and GS. making it the smallest mainstream class in Australia, and only the Falcon and Commodore sell in significant numbers, so it’s no surprise less large cars are sold than other classes.

  • Sally Forth

    One thing of interest from the sales table are the poor sales of the i45, i40 and Optima. No matter how much Car Advice and all the fan boys who post here promote them, they just don’t sell in any significant quantity. You have to agree that if the significantly more expensive Mercedes, BMW and Audis outsell them, then these Korean cars are just not appealling to the average buyer.

  • Asdfgh

    The Falcons are good for 1 million + kms, as evident in the taxis. With all these arguments about quality, reliability and durability, I haven’t seen a single Camry with half as much kms on the clock. What’s the difference if a car is built in Broadmeadows, Altons or the bogan suburbs of Japan or Thailand?

    • Sydlocal

       What about the Prius taxi in Cairns that passed well over 1/2 million a few years ago and was still going strong, it was even still on its original battery pack? Taxis last because they are hardly ever turned off and the engines are warm nearly all the time. Most cars used as Taxis do significantly more kms than the same sort of car used privately, regardless of brand. That is because the majority of engine wear occurs during a cold start, which the average punter does more often over a set number of kms than a taxi. I am sure you will find a few Camrys/Prius in North Queensland (the taxi of choice) with similar kms to many Falcon Taxis. There have been even some cabbies I have spoken to say they Camrys etc give then less trouble than their Falcons used to. In fact, since Ford stopped making the ‘Taxi pack’ in the factory, there have been a few more brands kicking around, especially Camrys/Prius. Go to Nth Qld and you would be lucky to see a single Falcon Taxi.  Note, I am not a Camry fan and would rather have a Falcon over one, however I don’t let that cloud my judgement on the facts.

      • $29896495

        That’s an interesting point about Ford stopping the Taxi pack. Just thinking about it  and don’t think I’ve seen the latest Falcon dressed as a cab. Surely that would have lost a lot of sales. Makes you wonder?

        • Michael

          Ford didn’t want to be associated with taxis anymore, there are some FG taxis but most Victorian taxis are BAs

        • Sdfg

          In NSW and a few other states, nearly all the taxis (which in NSW are Falcoones) are purchased from the ex fleet sales.
          So there’s no point in Ford offering the taxi pack when the taxis aren’t being bought brand new.  I didn’t see any FG taxi’s here in Sydney for about two years or so after the FG was released as the ex-fleet FGs hadn’t reached the auctions yet.

  • Tom

    Why is the VW Passat a medium car and the Skoda Superb a large car?

    • Blip

       Superb has bigger leg room in the rear.I think it may also be slightly wider.

    • $29896495

      The Passat isn’t medium despite it being included.

  • MisterZed

    It’s built by bogans in Broadmeadows… good enough reason?

  • Barry

    Do your research Mr Ed.The i45 engine is a handgrenade.My next door neighbours 30,000 km engine is kaput.

  • Mac

    Its best that you sell up here (if you actually have anything to sell up) , and then move to korea………….and there you will be in good company while you tell your mates there how good their cars are , and also while you explain to them your total disregard for anything australian , while you explain to them your version of whats supposed to be a bogan  while they privately laugh at you behind your back bacuse of how they sucked in another foreign buyer to the detriment of their home country. The production lines for the hyundais would have to be the closest thing to an intestine , and it takes no explaining what comes out at the end…..its not cars…..its your precious i45 . What a waste of steel to be turned into  i45s . Your attitude towards this country should disqualify you from your centrelink payments !!!!

  • AussieJ141

    What makes them bogans dimwit? GET A LIFE

  • DanielD

    No

  • horsie

    Zed. you have taken your usually pathetic comments to a new level of stupidity. please just go away and leave the comment to the adults

  • Michael

    Jus like the i45 is built by the Korean version of bogans in Seoul

  • MisterZed

    Sure. Proof please.

  • Sdfg

     What about how the 149Kw engine in the 2.4 i45 with a 6 speed is slower than far less powerful cars like the 122KW Mazda6 which only has a 5 speed auto.

  • Hung Low

    Hyundai recall news headlines are not published on this site. Like the new one last week on the steering!

  • Barry

    How about the steering issues in the i20 and i30,heard about them.We have all been praising the Korean car makers for years.The engine in i45 is too small for a car of that size.

  • DanielD

    Define bogan. Then show direct association with every employee of Ford at Broadmeadows.

    Proof please..

  • MisterZed

    If you think your beloved Falcon is so great, why don’t you go out and buy one?

  • joe

     Hi Mac.
    Before going around and dishing some poor guy.. please do some research first.
    In terms of worldwide market, it is correct that i45 sells a lot.
    You can check the statistics on OICA. If my knowledge is correct, Ford Falcon is almost exclusively made and sold in Australia and NZ only.
    Last time I checked, Hyundai produced 6.1million cars world wide.
    Ford Australia sold 90K cars? And thats including all the imported vehicles.
    So… I’m not entirely sure whose really laughing.

  • Barry

    The person that told me the story Hung Low about the steering has refused to pay the Hyundai service centre.They say he keeps running into the curve,that why the car keeps steering to the left.

  • joe

    Just for reference, 6.1 million cars for Hyundai was 2011 stats from OICA. 2012 should be more.
    Fords 90K cars are the one found in CA for 2012.

  • $29896495

    If you are going to quote total figures for Hyundai, you have to do it for Ford to, not just Australia. 

  • Mac

    Joe…..if i want to dish some poor guy then i will . Yes the falcon is produced for oz and nz mainly because its RHD bulit only , due to some stupid decisions from head office in detroit, thats not the fault of ford oz or of its falcon .. Obviously if something is built in RHD and LHD then its market will be far bigger . ….as for whose laughing ,……..i am because my falcons old and new will continue going strong while the short life cycle of the hyundais will guarantee plenty of cheap steel to recyclers in the future !!

  • joe

    So lets say for example Hyundai’s 5 years warranty does not mean any thing? I dont mean I dont like Ford or have anything against them. To be honest I think they make brilliant cars. But I also think Hyundai makes good cars too. If not comparable to any cars in the same category. I dont understand why would any one have anything against them.

  • Mac

    Hyundais 5 year warranty doesnt mean much either , because anyone can offer a long warranty……but its likely that there will be a higher rate of claims made against that warranty, and i bet hyundai will be sweating on many of these proud sucker owners to miss a service interval over the 5 years so then they really have them sucked in . I shall be looking with interest at such time that north korea and sth korea start blasting each other  , at which time any korean trolley on wheels will be on hold for the war effort……..maybe permanently !!……..remember ,the war hasnt been resolved….but been in ceasefire for these decades . Not if …..but when…..

  • Drive

    So many people are bent on arguing about Hyundai Vs Ford. They both make some good cars but only one creates Aussie manufacturing jobs. While I want to support the Aussie manufacturing industry I can understand why many don’t when their automotive needs are not being met by the local products. This is the problem. Toyota is the only one selling cars that the public really want (going off 2012 purchasing statistics). Ford and Holden need to start copying the likes of the Camry and better it in quality and specification if they want to increase market share.

  • $29896495

    Well we all know I think that the Koreans fudge their power out puts to make themselves sound good. The numbers they say they have and their power and gearing hey should be rockets, but strangely as you pointed out, they aren’t. Just the opposite.

  • Zaccy16

    exactly, the koreans are very optimistic with their figures, i have a 2005 mazda 6 and it has a 2.3 4cyl that producers 122 kw and in the real world it feels faster and sounds much less strained then the 2.0 and 2.4 in the 140 and 145

  • MisterZed

    Have you ever been to Broadmeadows before?

  • Hung Low

    Seriously mate, as if any global company such as Ford is going to stake it’s reputation and liability by having an open door policy for any person to work in its factories. Generalising people by where they live is as almost as stupid as saying that Hyundai owners are all bogans, and the favourite bogan car is a late 90′s excel.

  • Rocket

    Maybe they should move the factory to Toorak and put Jaguar badges on them to please you? Is your real name Justin Spanner?

  • Zaccy16

    reply to hung low, yep a 90′s commodore or excel are definitely favourites for bogans!

  • Zaccy16

    you can’t talk you have a korean rubbish i45!

  • Zaccy16

    i have a mazda 6 and a polo tsi dsg, both much better than a pogo sticked suspension i45!

  • Zaccy16

    Much more exciting than a i45! The Mazda and vw are both fun to drive and the polo has great turbo torque

  • Kingchiddy

    Don’t worry mate, The mazda 6 and polo are very reliable cars in my opinion. Don’t trade em.

  • Pro346

    Yes because everyone that works at ford lives in broadmeadows???? Clearly you have no life experience…..misterzed

  • Mac

    i have falcons zed , near new and old also , which will never be sold but restored in time ……..had a couple commodores in the past also . …..so back to your question , why dont i buy a falcon ? ………what a stupid question it is !!…….. In this country where we have the choice of buying a dumped on us cheap item , or  the choice of contributing back into our own economy (after all its our own economy what employs us !!)……i think you have a gripe with the local makers over one particular car you had in the past …….so you think theyre all rubbish now . I suggest you drive a new falcon before passing judgment , or at least read a review . …..dont worry , i wont ask you to admit anything then , but atleast theres a chance of you shutting up !!

  • Sumpguard

    One of my business associates has a current model falcon and he has had it back to the dealer numerous times.