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		<title>By: H</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-136049</link>
		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snap! You&#039;re the boss Grammar Nazi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snap! You&#8217;re the boss Grammar Nazi!</p>
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		<title>By: Grammar Nazi</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109477</link>
		<dc:creator>Grammar Nazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M, it&#039;s actually called acclimatisation.

noun: 
adaptation to a new climate (a new temperature or altitude or environment)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M, it&#8217;s actually called acclimatisation.</p>
<p>noun:<br />
adaptation to a new climate (a new temperature or altitude or environment)</p>
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		<title>By: The Realist</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109456</link>
		<dc:creator>The Realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japanese Public Transport is the best I&#039;ve travelled on.

Clean, safe, and almost always on time!

Considering the size of the Tokyo - Yokohama metropolitan area and the approx. 36 million living in this area the efficiency of trains and Shinkansens is mind boggling.

It makes me sick when I&#039;m trying to catch a train from Martin Place and it&#039;s 10 minutes late for no reason...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japanese Public Transport is the best I&#8217;ve travelled on.</p>
<p>Clean, safe, and almost always on time!</p>
<p>Considering the size of the Tokyo &#8211; Yokohama metropolitan area and the approx. 36 million living in this area the efficiency of trains and Shinkansens is mind boggling.</p>
<p>It makes me sick when I&#8217;m trying to catch a train from Martin Place and it&#8217;s 10 minutes late for no reason&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109433</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realcars,
you dont like the humidity here in QLD???
good, tell yourself and friends not to come then ha ha ha ha

Its called climatisation.
I prob couldnt move south due to the colder winters.

I also would miss the cracking thunder storms.
More predicted from tomorrow onwards :)

You gotta love an awesome lightening show accompanied by the smell of the rain washing away the heat....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realcars,<br />
you dont like the humidity here in QLD???<br />
good, tell yourself and friends not to come then ha ha ha ha</p>
<p>Its called climatisation.<br />
I prob couldnt move south due to the colder winters.</p>
<p>I also would miss the cracking thunder storms.<br />
More predicted from tomorrow onwards :)</p>
<p>You gotta love an awesome lightening show accompanied by the smell of the rain washing away the heat&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109426</link>
		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, Heritage Heights is an affordable suburb dotted with MacDonalds Mansions only minutes drive to Bogantown station with sweeping views of Roseghetto to boot.

U can&#039;t go wrong!Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, Heritage Heights is an affordable suburb dotted with MacDonalds Mansions only minutes drive to Bogantown station with sweeping views of Roseghetto to boot.</p>
<p>U can&#8217;t go wrong!Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109416</link>
		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love Queensland and definitely is the progressive State but I can&#039;t stand the unrelenting Humidity.LOL.

Plenty of suburbs near stations here in Bogantown but u have to live with the locals.LOL.

Avoid Roseghetto (as if I need to tell u after recent events)

Must admit a better choice than Blacktown and environs though.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love Queensland and definitely is the progressive State but I can&#8217;t stand the unrelenting Humidity.LOL.</p>
<p>Plenty of suburbs near stations here in Bogantown but u have to live with the locals.LOL.</p>
<p>Avoid Roseghetto (as if I need to tell u after recent events)</p>
<p>Must admit a better choice than Blacktown and environs though.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109290</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut, it&#039;s why i feel sorry for Sydneysiders everyday - their suffering will only get worse (what they need is something like a NSW-version of Jeff Kennett really)

At least the Brumby has some sort of plan...even if it isnt totally funded yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut, it&#8217;s why i feel sorry for Sydneysiders everyday &#8211; their suffering will only get worse (what they need is something like a NSW-version of Jeff Kennett really)</p>
<p>At least the Brumby has some sort of plan&#8230;even if it isnt totally funded yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109253</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sydney&#039;s pollution sparks health warning&quot; headlines from the ABC.
Such a lovely city..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sydney&#8217;s pollution sparks health warning&#8221; headlines from the ABC.<br />
Such a lovely city&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109211</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote [Neil]: Simple fact is the NSW Govt should be investing in new public transport options for the Greater Sydney region so that people all throughout Sydney and it’s surrounding suburbs have the option of Public Transport 

One problem.. Sydney/NSW the Pseudo Capital Of Australia is Broke.. Bankrupt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote [Neil]: Simple fact is the NSW Govt should be investing in new public transport options for the Greater Sydney region so that people all throughout Sydney and it’s surrounding suburbs have the option of Public Transport </p>
<p>One problem.. Sydney/NSW the Pseudo Capital Of Australia is Broke.. Bankrupt</p>
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		<title>By: Grammar Nazi</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109210</link>
		<dc:creator>Grammar Nazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every day I am thankful that I have a 10 minute ferry ride to work on Sydney Harbour. Yep, Sydney still takes the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day I am thankful that I have a 10 minute ferry ride to work on Sydney Harbour. Yep, Sydney still takes the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109207</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it sucks to be in Sydney period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it sucks to be in Sydney period.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109191</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Simon, it&#039;s the people in the outer western/north-western suburbs who have to pay more in tolls, not the more wealthy northern beaches/north shore residents

Realcars, It&#039;s fantastic to simply say &quot;move to a home near a station&quot;, if only it were that easy - fat chance of finding a home like that for starters, and then you&#039;ll need all the luck on earth to be able to secure the loan needed to buy the damn place in these financially-tight times. Your bank might &quot;lol&quot; at that small request

Andrew M, I&#039;ve just come back from a few weeks in Sydney and I have to say the worst part about their transport system is the ticketing - it&#039;s a nightmare. Melbourne has a far simpler and more user-friendly system, and in my opinion, one that offers far more value for money that the &quot;every-sydney-train-station-on-the-one-machine&quot; method of the Harbour City

Simple fact is the NSW Govt should be investing in new public transport options for the Greater Sydney region so that people all throughout Sydney and it&#039;s surrounding suburbs have the option of Public Transport</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Simon, it&#8217;s the people in the outer western/north-western suburbs who have to pay more in tolls, not the more wealthy northern beaches/north shore residents</p>
<p>Realcars, It&#8217;s fantastic to simply say &#8220;move to a home near a station&#8221;, if only it were that easy &#8211; fat chance of finding a home like that for starters, and then you&#8217;ll need all the luck on earth to be able to secure the loan needed to buy the damn place in these financially-tight times. Your bank might &#8220;lol&#8221; at that small request</p>
<p>Andrew M, I&#8217;ve just come back from a few weeks in Sydney and I have to say the worst part about their transport system is the ticketing &#8211; it&#8217;s a nightmare. Melbourne has a far simpler and more user-friendly system, and in my opinion, one that offers far more value for money that the &#8220;every-sydney-train-station-on-the-one-machine&#8221; method of the Harbour City</p>
<p>Simple fact is the NSW Govt should be investing in new public transport options for the Greater Sydney region so that people all throughout Sydney and it&#8217;s surrounding suburbs have the option of Public Transport</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109188</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me glad I&#039;m in QLD and yes we don&#039;t need more &quot;mexican&quot; drivers up here. Heaven knows QLD has MORE than it&#039;s fair share of lousy drivers!
So let me get this straight......people who live in the northern (affluent) suburbs pay more in tolls? Isn&#039;t that just like the tax system? If you have more the government will take more from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me glad I&#8217;m in QLD and yes we don&#8217;t need more &#8220;mexican&#8221; drivers up here. Heaven knows QLD has MORE than it&#8217;s fair share of lousy drivers!<br />
So let me get this straight&#8230;&#8230;people who live in the northern (affluent) suburbs pay more in tolls? Isn&#8217;t that just like the tax system? If you have more the government will take more from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109174</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut,
What a stupid idea.
Please dont ever promote the idea that has already been taken by many and move to QLD. ha ha ha ha

PCR,
I agree.
Londons Public transport operates very smoothly for the volume it carries. I also found it very easy to Navigate.
I also find Melbournes Public system fairly easy and flowing to use.
And as a surprise i also found the public system in Bankok easy and flowing to use.
BUT.....
Ive never used Sydneys system to compare

In QLD they are setting up a few sattelite cities. Some already started, some have the planning approved.
I suppose we have a fair size bigger chunk of land up here though.
You still got acerage estates down there an hour from the CBD Guys?? 
Darn it!!!!! now Im selling it (Bangs Head)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut,<br />
What a stupid idea.<br />
Please dont ever promote the idea that has already been taken by many and move to QLD. ha ha ha ha</p>
<p>PCR,<br />
I agree.<br />
Londons Public transport operates very smoothly for the volume it carries. I also found it very easy to Navigate.<br />
I also find Melbournes Public system fairly easy and flowing to use.<br />
And as a surprise i also found the public system in Bankok easy and flowing to use.<br />
BUT&#8230;..<br />
Ive never used Sydneys system to compare</p>
<p>In QLD they are setting up a few sattelite cities. Some already started, some have the planning approved.<br />
I suppose we have a fair size bigger chunk of land up here though.<br />
You still got acerage estates down there an hour from the CBD Guys??<br />
Darn it!!!!! now Im selling it (Bangs Head)</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109168</link>
		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hills we build and they will provide outlook has certainly let these people down.

Here&#039;s a tip if u don&#039;t want to be stuck in grid lock getting to work everyday buy in a suburb that has a train station.LOL.

And yes the &quot;Shire&quot; is the best place in Sydney because there are more decent people in the one place than any other part of Sydney plus the advantage of trains,proximity to the sea,national parks etc,etc.

I live in Bogantown but would move to the Shire in a heartbeat if I could afford too.

And yes Ray Anglo middleclass majority not a bad thing either and I am a wog just like u.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hills we build and they will provide outlook has certainly let these people down.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a tip if u don&#8217;t want to be stuck in grid lock getting to work everyday buy in a suburb that has a train station.LOL.</p>
<p>And yes the &#8220;Shire&#8221; is the best place in Sydney because there are more decent people in the one place than any other part of Sydney plus the advantage of trains,proximity to the sea,national parks etc,etc.</p>
<p>I live in Bogantown but would move to the Shire in a heartbeat if I could afford too.</p>
<p>And yes Ray Anglo middleclass majority not a bad thing either and I am a wog just like u.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray, the Cronulla riots wasn&#039;t about &quot;white superiority&quot; as the media loved to suggest.

It was about respect for Shire residents homes and their surrounding environment by those visiting &quot;the Shire&quot;.

Also, I would hardly call the Lebanese (as a whole) a minority group in Sydney, the true minority group in all of this was in fact the small number of violent male offenders (both Australian and Lebanese). Nearly all of whom have subsequently been brought to justice by your &quot;white supremacists&quot; in power. Go figure.

Anyway, in reference to the article, the simple reason that Shire residents don&#039;t pay tolls yet is because we don&#039;t have any toll roads yet (duh!), and the simple reason is because the Shire is a &quot;safe&quot; political electorate.

South-West Sydney doesn&#039;t get special treatment because they are a Labor electorate. They get special treatment because they are a &quot;swing&quot; electorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray, the Cronulla riots wasn&#8217;t about &#8220;white superiority&#8221; as the media loved to suggest.</p>
<p>It was about respect for Shire residents homes and their surrounding environment by those visiting &#8220;the Shire&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also, I would hardly call the Lebanese (as a whole) a minority group in Sydney, the true minority group in all of this was in fact the small number of violent male offenders (both Australian and Lebanese). Nearly all of whom have subsequently been brought to justice by your &#8220;white supremacists&#8221; in power. Go figure.</p>
<p>Anyway, in reference to the article, the simple reason that Shire residents don&#8217;t pay tolls yet is because we don&#8217;t have any toll roads yet (duh!), and the simple reason is because the Shire is a &#8220;safe&#8221; political electorate.</p>
<p>South-West Sydney doesn&#8217;t get special treatment because they are a Labor electorate. They get special treatment because they are a &#8220;swing&#8221; electorate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Campagnolo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109153</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Campagnolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah the Shire is the place to be and the people are civilized!\&quot;

So &quot;civilised&quot;, its residents decided to act on their &quot;white superiority&quot; mentality by way of violence against minority groups. All that was missing were the white hoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah the Shire is the place to be and the people are civilized!\&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8220;civilised&#8221;, its residents decided to act on their &#8220;white superiority&#8221; mentality by way of violence against minority groups. All that was missing were the white hoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Motorhead</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109138</link>
		<dc:creator>Motorhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labor know their heartland is elsewhere &amp; don&#039;t care about the north &amp; west as their will never be a vote in it for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labor know their heartland is elsewhere &amp; don&#8217;t care about the north &amp; west as their will never be a vote in it for them.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109130</link>
		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid enough to move to the &quot;Hills&quot; then u deserve what u get.LOL.

Yeah the Shire is the place to be and the people are civilized!

The South West i.e Campbelltown and hinterland are the best located areas in Sydney only prob is there are too many ignorant Bogans.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid enough to move to the &#8220;Hills&#8221; then u deserve what u get.LOL.</p>
<p>Yeah the Shire is the place to be and the people are civilized!</p>
<p>The South West i.e Campbelltown and hinterland are the best located areas in Sydney only prob is there are too many ignorant Bogans.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: PCR</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20241/sydneys-tolls-discriminatory/#comment-109128</link>
		<dc:creator>PCR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, very interesting thread. Living close to the city (because I work there) is my solution for now, but I have been wondering (for some time) what the &quot;real&quot; solution is for Sydney / NSW. 

Surely the answer is the public transport system being well and truly overhauled so that it is is touch and go whether you are better off driving or being driven (or better still the P/T system is quicker). The real economic dynamics of this are plain to see based on the above. Property values will rise in outer lying suburbs as they become more sensibly attractive.

It&#039;s clear however that the current NSW government (and the opposition) are never going to do what is necessary, and that&#039;s a wholesale re-design and implementation of a real public transport system which is &quot;designed&quot; for growth and efficiency and to make it attractive to live more than 10 km&#039;s from where you work without being stuck in traffic. Of course then the next logical issue is that the roads don&#039;t need to grow as much or as fast as they are pressured to now. It&#039;s a simple change of attitude and focus, but it takes a real b*lls approach. It won&#039;t be completely achieved in 1 parliamentary term either, so that&#039;s a problem.

Visiting London last year (2008) I was amazed at how efficiently I travelled from an outlying suburb (Tunbridge Wells) to the CBD and around the CBD and back again on public transport in peak hour in one of the busiest cities in the world. BUT, the return train fare was over 23 pounds Stlg and that&#039;s significant (yeah it&#039;s a lot cheaper if you buy weekly tickets or Oyster cards etc). Get&#039;s one thinking though, if the UK can do it, why the hell is it so hard in NSW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, very interesting thread. Living close to the city (because I work there) is my solution for now, but I have been wondering (for some time) what the &#8220;real&#8221; solution is for Sydney / NSW. </p>
<p>Surely the answer is the public transport system being well and truly overhauled so that it is is touch and go whether you are better off driving or being driven (or better still the P/T system is quicker). The real economic dynamics of this are plain to see based on the above. Property values will rise in outer lying suburbs as they become more sensibly attractive.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear however that the current NSW government (and the opposition) are never going to do what is necessary, and that&#8217;s a wholesale re-design and implementation of a real public transport system which is &#8220;designed&#8221; for growth and efficiency and to make it attractive to live more than 10 km&#8217;s from where you work without being stuck in traffic. Of course then the next logical issue is that the roads don&#8217;t need to grow as much or as fast as they are pressured to now. It&#8217;s a simple change of attitude and focus, but it takes a real b*lls approach. It won&#8217;t be completely achieved in 1 parliamentary term either, so that&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p>Visiting London last year (2008) I was amazed at how efficiently I travelled from an outlying suburb (Tunbridge Wells) to the CBD and around the CBD and back again on public transport in peak hour in one of the busiest cities in the world. BUT, the return train fare was over 23 pounds Stlg and that&#8217;s significant (yeah it&#8217;s a lot cheaper if you buy weekly tickets or Oyster cards etc). Get&#8217;s one thinking though, if the UK can do it, why the hell is it so hard in NSW.</p>
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