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		<title>By: Rory McRorts</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/20197/camaro-boasts-10000-advanced-orders/#comment-108964</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory McRorts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;d be in the queue for an &#039;SS&#039; version of this car if they decided to go with the right hooker for Australia.

It&#039;d be a shame to have so much of our automotive talent tied up in the damn thing and not be able to buy one. We&#039;re selling our Commodores for a good price there in the US (Not that they&#039;re selling many) ...maybe they can give us a break on price here ?

I better start saving that deposit now so I&#039;m ready if it lands here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;d be in the queue for an &#8216;SS&#8217; version of this car if they decided to go with the right hooker for Australia.</p>
<p>It&#8217;d be a shame to have so much of our automotive talent tied up in the damn thing and not be able to buy one. We&#8217;re selling our Commodores for a good price there in the US (Not that they&#8217;re selling many) &#8230;maybe they can give us a break on price here ?</p>
<p>I better start saving that deposit now so I&#8217;m ready if it lands here</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>realcars,
im a big motorsport fan myself, and i love the well kept classics,
but my head isnt up my A*se, so i can see that not every one is a die hard &quot;Tim The Tool Man Taylor&quot; grunting style car lover.

If all of us were die hard Brocky poster plastered bedroom fanatics, then no way would we let the Corolla be number one seller in the very same country that holds that great mountain that made a king out of Brocky.

Holden need cars that put together solid runs on the board.
the news flash is that females heavily influence the buying choice.

And above and beyond all that, if you want to talk testicles and all that, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING TALKING MEDIUM AND SMALL CARS.

I myself wouldnt be caught dead spending my loot on anything less than a full sized car.
Generally speaking the people without testicles shop in the small and midsized classes. Those very people dont want a vehicle that screams of testosterone. If you give them a name that does, they will deflect to buy a Corolla or Mazda3

To summarise........
those that buy cars with a Tim Allen style Grunt, dont shop in the small car range, thats why such names as Torana and Gemini would only hit a very small part of the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realcars,<br />
im a big motorsport fan myself, and i love the well kept classics,<br />
but my head isnt up my A*se, so i can see that not every one is a die hard &#8220;Tim The Tool Man Taylor&#8221; grunting style car lover.</p>
<p>If all of us were die hard Brocky poster plastered bedroom fanatics, then no way would we let the Corolla be number one seller in the very same country that holds that great mountain that made a king out of Brocky.</p>
<p>Holden need cars that put together solid runs on the board.<br />
the news flash is that females heavily influence the buying choice.</p>
<p>And above and beyond all that, if you want to talk testicles and all that, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING TALKING MEDIUM AND SMALL CARS.</p>
<p>I myself wouldnt be caught dead spending my loot on anything less than a full sized car.<br />
Generally speaking the people without testicles shop in the small and midsized classes. Those very people dont want a vehicle that screams of testosterone. If you give them a name that does, they will deflect to buy a Corolla or Mazda3</p>
<p>To summarise&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
those that buy cars with a Tim Allen style Grunt, dont shop in the small car range, thats why such names as Torana and Gemini would only hit a very small part of the market.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t like to tell someone with a schmick GTR XU1 or L34 Torana etc that they drive a &quot;bogans&quot; car.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t like to tell someone with a schmick GTR XU1 or L34 Torana etc that they drive a &#8220;bogans&#8221; car.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame about Corolla name plate as I associate it with Bogans.

Cardigan wearing Bogans.LOL. 

If u reckon Torana is a Bogan name then your balls mustn&#039;t have dropped yet i.e you weren&#039;t around when Torana was conquering the mountain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame about Corolla name plate as I associate it with Bogans.</p>
<p>Cardigan wearing Bogans.LOL. </p>
<p>If u reckon Torana is a Bogan name then your balls mustn&#8217;t have dropped yet i.e you weren&#8217;t around when Torana was conquering the mountain.</p>
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		<title>By: Crouchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crouchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The names gemini and torana will never return because as andrew said, people associate them with bogans. The monaro however still has a good name and could easily return i think. Sure beats Tiida (throws up)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The names gemini and torana will never return because as andrew said, people associate them with bogans. The monaro however still has a good name and could easily return i think. Sure beats Tiida (throws up)</p>
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		<title>By: Dlr1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlr1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Andrew M, some names just have the wrong image associated with them and should be consigned to the dustbin for good. Could you imagine Ford renaming the Mondeo the Cortina? Or what about a new 120Why? 

The Monaro nameplate was atleast an aspirational model in the range and can still work with a niche vehicle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Andrew M, some names just have the wrong image associated with them and should be consigned to the dustbin for good. Could you imagine Ford renaming the Mondeo the Cortina? Or what about a new 120Why? </p>
<p>The Monaro nameplate was atleast an aspirational model in the range and can still work with a niche vehicle</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wheelnut,
names like gemini, torana and monaro will never be main stream names again.

if they light those names up again, they will severly limit their target audience.

I mean, how many females in todays society would cream themselves over the chance to purchase a gemini?? and the same can be said for the rest of those names you mentioned.
To most people (females especially) a gemini is a clapped out old bomb, and a torana is a hoons/bogans car.

more people would turn at those names than would turn to them.
If those names returned, they would only be niche products.
Holden needs each to be a volume product. Even the previous Monaro was a niche/novelty product. they were snapped up in the beginning, but was cut because the sales died off, and now the resale = bugger all on them even though advertising called them an instant classic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wheelnut,<br />
names like gemini, torana and monaro will never be main stream names again.</p>
<p>if they light those names up again, they will severly limit their target audience.</p>
<p>I mean, how many females in todays society would cream themselves over the chance to purchase a gemini?? and the same can be said for the rest of those names you mentioned.<br />
To most people (females especially) a gemini is a clapped out old bomb, and a torana is a hoons/bogans car.</p>
<p>more people would turn at those names than would turn to them.<br />
If those names returned, they would only be niche products.<br />
Holden needs each to be a volume product. Even the previous Monaro was a niche/novelty product. they were snapped up in the beginning, but was cut because the sales died off, and now the resale = bugger all on them even though advertising called them an instant classic</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Sutcliffe - I agree that GM Ford and Chrysler could do away wiht a number of Executive positions and still be able to operate [more] efficiently.

However; how many times do you read that when a company is in troulbe the [out of touch] company directors make the valiant decision and get rid of their own jobs first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Sutcliffe &#8211; I agree that GM Ford and Chrysler could do away wiht a number of Executive positions and still be able to operate [more] efficiently.</p>
<p>However; how many times do you read that when a company is in troulbe the [out of touch] company directors make the valiant decision and get rid of their own jobs first?</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s it I think if Holden allowed car enthusiasts and Holden fans to name a couple of their upcoming models - just as they did with the previous model Monaro.. they would sell in greater numbers 

The Camaro would then most likely be called the Monaro
The Insignia will most likely be called the Torana
The &quot;?&quot; car will most likely be called the Gemini

Because one of the reasons the [retro-tech] Camaro Mustang and Challenger are so popular is because of their link with the past and their motorsport heritage etc. Therefore; people who grew up with posters of Mustangs or Monaros on their walls are now able to buy one - fulfilling a childhood dream</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it I think if Holden allowed car enthusiasts and Holden fans to name a couple of their upcoming models &#8211; just as they did with the previous model Monaro.. they would sell in greater numbers </p>
<p>The Camaro would then most likely be called the Monaro<br />
The Insignia will most likely be called the Torana<br />
The &#8220;?&#8221; car will most likely be called the Gemini</p>
<p>Because one of the reasons the [retro-tech] Camaro Mustang and Challenger are so popular is because of their link with the past and their motorsport heritage etc. Therefore; people who grew up with posters of Mustangs or Monaros on their walls are now able to buy one &#8211; fulfilling a childhood dream</p>
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		<title>By: Crouchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crouchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 door, RWD sports car? Monaro? Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 door, RWD sports car? Monaro? Please?</p>
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