It’d be a shame to have so much of our automotive talent tied up in the damn thing and not be able to buy one. We’re selling our Commodores for a good price there in the US (Not that they’re selling many) …maybe they can give us a break on price here ?

I better start saving that deposit now so I’m ready if it lands here

If all of us were die hard Brocky poster plastered bedroom fanatics, then no way would we let the Corolla be number one seller in the very same country that holds that great mountain that made a king out of Brocky.

Holden need cars that put together solid runs on the board.
the news flash is that females heavily influence the buying choice.

And above and beyond all that, if you want to talk testicles and all that, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING TALKING MEDIUM AND SMALL CARS.

I myself wouldnt be caught dead spending my loot on anything less than a full sized car.
Generally speaking the people without testicles shop in the small and midsized classes. Those very people dont want a vehicle that screams of testosterone. If you give them a name that does, they will deflect to buy a Corolla or Mazda3

To summarise……..
those that buy cars with a Tim Allen style Grunt, dont shop in the small car range, thats why such names as Torana and Gemini would only hit a very small part of the market.

Cardigan wearing Bogans.LOL.

If u reckon Torana is a Bogan name then your balls mustn’t have dropped yet i.e you weren’t around when Torana was conquering the mountain.

The Monaro nameplate was atleast an aspirational model in the range and can still work with a niche vehicle

if they light those names up again, they will severly limit their target audience.

I mean, how many females in todays society would cream themselves over the chance to purchase a gemini?? and the same can be said for the rest of those names you mentioned.
To most people (females especially) a gemini is a clapped out old bomb, and a torana is a hoons/bogans car.

more people would turn at those names than would turn to them.
If those names returned, they would only be niche products.
Holden needs each to be a volume product. Even the previous Monaro was a niche/novelty product. they were snapped up in the beginning, but was cut because the sales died off, and now the resale = bugger all on them even though advertising called them an instant classic

However; how many times do you read that when a company is in troulbe the [out of touch] company directors make the valiant decision and get rid of their own jobs first?

The Camaro would then most likely be called the Monaro
The Insignia will most likely be called the Torana
The “?” car will most likely be called the Gemini

Because one of the reasons the [retro-tech] Camaro Mustang and Challenger are so popular is because of their link with the past and their motorsport heritage etc. Therefore; people who grew up with posters of Mustangs or Monaros on their walls are now able to buy one – fulfilling a childhood dream

When we get it expect GM-H to call it the Monaro as it has a greater following in Australia than the Camaro. So the Camaro is due for release in 2010 we probably won’t get it until 2012.. there could be a few subtle cosmetic changes

Is he serious? Its taken them this long to work out that people dont want V8s anymore.. and the worst thing is that V6 is hardly the most advanced, fuel efficient engine getting around haha. In america it seems that buying a V6 is the equivalant of buying a hybrid anywhere else….

Why doesnt this s*** surprise me?

Nice looking car btw.

If American car companies could buy labour at market rates, and did away with their non-performing executives, they would be very competitive and relevant. They have good ideas and build quality cars.

The Autoworkers Union and the executives are in cahoots – they know they’re onto a good thing and they’re trying to bleed the company dry while they can. One way to shock them into reality would be to make sure they knew this was the last government handout they would receive, so sink or swim, your choice.

Because what could happen when GM are bankrupt is that they could simply sell off all their property etc in the US and move overseas under a new company. I mean GM don’t actually make cars although they do own a number of car manufacturers.

GM have released a statement outlining their plans to restructure their business and streamline operations. In it they say the maing companies they will keep are Cadillac Chevrolet Opel and Holden..

Therefore; they could restructure their operations so RWD projects are predominantly built in Australia – taking advantage of Holdens RWD expertise etc.. and FWD cars could be built predominantly in Europe taking advantage of Opels FWD expertise.

They could even use the money from the US bailout for a range of projects overseas in preparation for pulling out of the USA – Infact given that they just approved Holdens plans to build a new small-medium sized car at Elizabeth indicates that that’s what they could be planning to do.

Its even more likely given that the US Automotive Workers who are getting paid upto $45p/hr + penalties etc have refused to take a $20p/hr pay cut – which will help keep GM in business [a bit longer] and keep their jobs.

If we [have to] get the CTS I hope it includes the top of the range 400Kw AWD model