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		<title>By: David OMC</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/19967/caradvice-christmas-ute-muster/#comment-108198</link>
		<dc:creator>David OMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP &amp; AndrewM on checking with a fellow fan and service advisor at a Mazda Dealer he said that over the 6yrs he has been there they have only had 4 cases of box problems.

My mate has a Black SDX dual cab 4x4 Bt and it was a Motor Show spl with leather and BT-50 stitching but the biggest drawback is that he is a big girl and got an auto. 

I tow my camper trailer using 5th gear all the time in the BT and I did in the Bravo and never a prob so I don&#039;t know what those other uses are doing to them.....mechanical abuse I guess.

The only difference between the Ranger and the BT is the front end and the fact that Ford uses Mazdas are a testiment to itself that the ute is good and a huge step forward on the one it replaced with two strong motors...

But like it has been said its personal preference and I and my family own a BT-50 4x4, 2008 2, 2006 RX7 and a soon to be replaced Mazda SP23 in 2009.

Mazda BT50 did win the following on its own without the Aldi cousin:

BT-50
2007 Ute of the Year Australian 4WD Monthly 
2007 Light Commercial Vehicle Award Delivery Magazine 

 from a very loyal Mazda owner.....all digs are typed with tongue in cheek... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP &amp; AndrewM on checking with a fellow fan and service advisor at a Mazda Dealer he said that over the 6yrs he has been there they have only had 4 cases of box problems.</p>
<p>My mate has a Black SDX dual cab 4&#215;4 Bt and it was a Motor Show spl with leather and BT-50 stitching but the biggest drawback is that he is a big girl and got an auto. </p>
<p>I tow my camper trailer using 5th gear all the time in the BT and I did in the Bravo and never a prob so I don&#8217;t know what those other uses are doing to them&#8230;..mechanical abuse I guess.</p>
<p>The only difference between the Ranger and the BT is the front end and the fact that Ford uses Mazdas are a testiment to itself that the ute is good and a huge step forward on the one it replaced with two strong motors&#8230;</p>
<p>But like it has been said its personal preference and I and my family own a BT-50 4&#215;4, 2008 2, 2006 RX7 and a soon to be replaced Mazda SP23 in 2009.</p>
<p>Mazda BT50 did win the following on its own without the Aldi cousin:</p>
<p>BT-50<br />
2007 Ute of the Year Australian 4WD Monthly<br />
2007 Light Commercial Vehicle Award Delivery Magazine </p>
<p> from a very loyal Mazda owner&#8230;..all digs are typed with tongue in cheek&#8230; <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should also add, I tend not to rely on one source alone with advice about my car - hence I found the story credible regarding fifth gear, when both the local mazda and ford dealers raised the issue once i mentioned towing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>should also add, I tend not to rely on one source alone with advice about my car &#8211; hence I found the story credible regarding fifth gear, when both the local mazda and ford dealers raised the issue once i mentioned towing.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Wasn&#039;t suggesting the mazda&#039;s  were poor quailty, however the gear box problems mentioned are a reailty in both the ford and mazda variants, apparently you just need to ask the boys on the national bream fishing comp that are sponsored and supplied with couriers/rangers. This is were I heard about issues with gear boxes and to avoid towing in fifth gear so the issue doesn;t occur. This aside both the ranger and bt are great cars and motor is a vast improvement. End of the day i have a bt, however as i said my old man has a xlt ranger loaded with all options and aftermarket leather/spotties and it looks quite good, bold and chrome goes a treat, however doesnt quite inspire like a f150 type truck would.

CA - perhaps with such interest from seemingly all genuinly interested readers a test of bt, triton, colorado, navara is called for with ranger and d max incuded if you feel the difference between the sister cars is that great?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t suggesting the mazda&#8217;s  were poor quailty, however the gear box problems mentioned are a reailty in both the ford and mazda variants, apparently you just need to ask the boys on the national bream fishing comp that are sponsored and supplied with couriers/rangers. This is were I heard about issues with gear boxes and to avoid towing in fifth gear so the issue doesn;t occur. This aside both the ranger and bt are great cars and motor is a vast improvement. End of the day i have a bt, however as i said my old man has a xlt ranger loaded with all options and aftermarket leather/spotties and it looks quite good, bold and chrome goes a treat, however doesnt quite inspire like a f150 type truck would.</p>
<p>CA &#8211; perhaps with such interest from seemingly all genuinly interested readers a test of bt, triton, colorado, navara is called for with ranger and d max incuded if you feel the difference between the sister cars is that great?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Greenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Greenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of ute muster is this?!  Isn&#039;t it a requirement that the ute be at least 25 years old, have it clearcoat (if any) completely worn through and have at least 1 dent on every panel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of ute muster is this?!  Isn&#8217;t it a requirement that the ute be at least 25 years old, have it clearcoat (if any) completely worn through and have at least 1 dent on every panel?</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think any ute looks good without a bullbar, spotties and a good strong steel dropside tray, before that it just doesn&#039;t function or look much chop, but hey it&#039;s all personal preference. 

We actually don&#039;t like the Rangers (I haven&#039;t driven them but the boys don&#039;t like them), F-250s (high breakdown rate and boat like steering, but great load capacity and comfortable on long distances) and Patrols (always seem gutless when we get them for some reason). They are used for the same purpose as we use speced up hilux SRs (a stupid fleet decision not to get SR5s despite the same final specced up price) and landcruisers (no new landcruiser purchases due to our new airbag requirements) in Australia wihout as much difficulty. Only major problem that has come out has been the clutches on the hiluxes not coping with the weight of gear and toyota won&#039;t cover them, so looks like the short term future is patrols unfortunately...wish they&#039;d hurry up and put airbags in the landcruiser to get the fleet purchasing back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think any ute looks good without a bullbar, spotties and a good strong steel dropside tray, before that it just doesn&#8217;t function or look much chop, but hey it&#8217;s all personal preference. </p>
<p>We actually don&#8217;t like the Rangers (I haven&#8217;t driven them but the boys don&#8217;t like them), F-250s (high breakdown rate and boat like steering, but great load capacity and comfortable on long distances) and Patrols (always seem gutless when we get them for some reason). They are used for the same purpose as we use speced up hilux SRs (a stupid fleet decision not to get SR5s despite the same final specced up price) and landcruisers (no new landcruiser purchases due to our new airbag requirements) in Australia wihout as much difficulty. Only major problem that has come out has been the clutches on the hiluxes not coping with the weight of gear and toyota won&#8217;t cover them, so looks like the short term future is patrols unfortunately&#8230;wish they&#8217;d hurry up and put airbags in the landcruiser to get the fleet purchasing back.</p>
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		<title>By: Escort_Ghia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Escort_Ghia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shame its just a truck though hay forza m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shame its just a truck though hay forza m</p>
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		<title>By: Forza M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forza M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>st-x navara smashes all of these buckets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>st-x navara smashes all of these buckets</p>
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		<title>By: phaeton</title>
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		<dc:creator>phaeton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was the Triton ?

D-Max is built in the Thai Isuzu factory while the Colorado is built in the Thai GM factory. 

Hopefully next year you guys can score the VW Robust which will be a giant killer in all areas.

Merry Xmas CA Guys :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was the Triton ?</p>
<p>D-Max is built in the Thai Isuzu factory while the Colorado is built in the Thai GM factory. </p>
<p>Hopefully next year you guys can score the VW Robust which will be a giant killer in all areas.</p>
<p>Merry Xmas CA Guys <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
the wear and tear in 5th gear is related to continual towing in 5th.

I too prefer the looks of the Ranger.
A work truck should look tough. Colorado, Ranger and Navara are the only ones that havent gone &quot;sissy&quot; and curvy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
the wear and tear in 5th gear is related to continual towing in 5th.</p>
<p>I too prefer the looks of the Ranger.<br />
A work truck should look tough. Colorado, Ranger and Navara are the only ones that havent gone &#8220;sissy&#8221; and curvy.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To refer to Jp&#039;s comment about the Ranger&#039;s looks....its personal choice and the front of the Ranger is too wank Yank looking and the BT-50 is more classy looking especially in black with all the chrome to boot..


I had no problems with the gearbox in my previous Bravo 4x4 and it took as around Aus twice in 6yrs and the second time towing a camper trailer...I had no probs in 5th cruising at 100k/ph

My new BT-50 towed a 18ft Caravan Syd-Bris and it didn&#039;t even raise a sweat.

I have owned Mazda&#039;s for over 25yrs rotaries included and never had one cause me trouble even a T4100 turbo which clocked up over 600,000k&#039;s with regular services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To refer to Jp&#8217;s comment about the Ranger&#8217;s looks&#8230;.its personal choice and the front of the Ranger is too wank Yank looking and the BT-50 is more classy looking especially in black with all the chrome to boot..</p>
<p>I had no problems with the gearbox in my previous Bravo 4&#215;4 and it took as around Aus twice in 6yrs and the second time towing a camper trailer&#8230;I had no probs in 5th cruising at 100k/ph</p>
<p>My new BT-50 towed a 18ft Caravan Syd-Bris and it didn&#8217;t even raise a sweat.</p>
<p>I have owned Mazda&#8217;s for over 25yrs rotaries included and never had one cause me trouble even a T4100 turbo which clocked up over 600,000k&#8217;s with regular services.</p>
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