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	<title>Comments on: 2008 HSV Clubsport R8 Tourer First Steer</title>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didnt they colour-code the rear chrome strip, at least it would look different to the other Holdens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didnt they colour-code the rear chrome strip, at least it would look different to the other Holdens</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/19901/2008-hsv-clubsport-r8-tourer-first-steer/#comment-135862</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well its compared to prestige cars double or triple the price and dont forget its a wagon, luxury car and sportscar in one and it keeps money and jobs here, what else would you want. Its got chevy reliability, and in90% of cases better than the european cars in that regard, and the hip pocket would be less hit than a Euro car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well its compared to prestige cars double or triple the price and dont forget its a wagon, luxury car and sportscar in one and it keeps money and jobs here, what else would you want. Its got chevy reliability, and in90% of cases better than the european cars in that regard, and the hip pocket would be less hit than a Euro car.</p>
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		<title>By: VR4</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/19901/2008-hsv-clubsport-r8-tourer-first-steer/#comment-108325</link>
		<dc:creator>VR4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great looking wagon, but still does not beat the Mitsubishi Legnum VR4 wagon for bang for buck. A couple of simple mods and the Legnum would beat it, and your&#039;ve still got an extra $40K+ in your pocket.

I see what you all are saying about the tail lights, LED&#039;s would look way better.

Anyway very nice wagon Holden!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great looking wagon, but still does not beat the Mitsubishi Legnum VR4 wagon for bang for buck. A couple of simple mods and the Legnum would beat it, and your&#8217;ve still got an extra $40K+ in your pocket.</p>
<p>I see what you all are saying about the tail lights, LED&#8217;s would look way better.</p>
<p>Anyway very nice wagon Holden!</p>
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		<title>By: Escort_Ghia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Escort_Ghia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no Allan D the calais is like the fermont of commodores its the statesman and capris that are long wheelbase its the calis that hsv you as a base car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no Allan D the calais is like the fermont of commodores its the statesman and capris that are long wheelbase its the calis that hsv you as a base car.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan D</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/19901/2008-hsv-clubsport-r8-tourer-first-steer/#comment-107663</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah it would have made more sense given that it’s a Clubsport and the LED lights are a distinguishing feature between HSVs and the VE Calais from which they are derived&quot;

Isn&#039;t the clubsport and GTS derived from a Berlina? Calais has long wheelbase?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah it would have made more sense given that it’s a Clubsport and the LED lights are a distinguishing feature between HSVs and the VE Calais from which they are derived&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the clubsport and GTS derived from a Berlina? Calais has long wheelbase?</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It needs unique tail lights like the sedans.

Otherwise a good looking wagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It needs unique tail lights like the sedans.</p>
<p>Otherwise a good looking wagon.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myke - I&#039;m sorry mate, my guess is it wouldn&#039;t sell well at all even with diesel. The last large Vauxhall the Omega (Aussie your Commodor) sold reasonably well but won the award for Britain most heavily depreciating car. Folk here for the same money about £24K would rather drive a 320 BMW or an A4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myke &#8211; I&#8217;m sorry mate, my guess is it wouldn&#8217;t sell well at all even with diesel. The last large Vauxhall the Omega (Aussie your Commodor) sold reasonably well but won the award for Britain most heavily depreciating car. Folk here for the same money about £24K would rather drive a 320 BMW or an A4.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IZ,
it used to be that the manuals were always more efficient than the Autos, but not anymore.

the extra couple of ratios on the autos would go a long way to help too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IZ,<br />
it used to be that the manuals were always more efficient than the Autos, but not anymore.</p>
<p>the extra couple of ratios on the autos would go a long way to help too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut, a lot of those cars are still far more tasteful than this, but yes, many of them I do agree with. You are wrong though about the Alfa Romeos (beautiful and great to drive), the Maserati (one of the coolest cars in the world, and if you disagree, that just shows how cool you must be), The Volvo XC90, it&#039;s certainly not cool, but it isn&#039;t distasteful because it&#039;s very purposeful and isn&#039;t mean to do anything other than transport seven people around in comfort and safety. Citroen C5 and C6? The C5 isn&#039;t cool, but it isn&#039;t distasteful and it is very handsome, and the C6 is cool, I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re on about! And what about the Porsche Cayenne? No, just kidding :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut, a lot of those cars are still far more tasteful than this, but yes, many of them I do agree with. You are wrong though about the Alfa Romeos (beautiful and great to drive), the Maserati (one of the coolest cars in the world, and if you disagree, that just shows how cool you must be), The Volvo XC90, it&#8217;s certainly not cool, but it isn&#8217;t distasteful because it&#8217;s very purposeful and isn&#8217;t mean to do anything other than transport seven people around in comfort and safety. Citroen C5 and C6? The C5 isn&#8217;t cool, but it isn&#8217;t distasteful and it is very handsome, and the C6 is cool, I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re on about! And what about the Porsche Cayenne? No, just kidding <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alloys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alloys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the point of this overpriced car ? What is it really ? Its not a sports sedan, not really a wagon, not an SUV, and is far from cheap or economical. You may a s well buy the sedan if you have enough poor taste to want a Holden or a HSV. I must say it is by far the best looking of the entire VE range. But apart from that its a nothing car. The load space is ridiculously small for a so called wagon and the fuel bill would ( real world economy, not the Holden propaganda figures) kill your bank account if you had it loaded with people and luggage, albeit not much luggage with the small space. And that poor quality and very dated  VE interior is looking worse evry time they try to make it look better. Power window buttons on the centre console is woeful and the less said about that so called handbrake the better ! Overpriced vehicle with no real identity or purpose.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the point of this overpriced car ? What is it really ? Its not a sports sedan, not really a wagon, not an SUV, and is far from cheap or economical. You may a s well buy the sedan if you have enough poor taste to want a Holden or a HSV. I must say it is by far the best looking of the entire VE range. But apart from that its a nothing car. The load space is ridiculously small for a so called wagon and the fuel bill would ( real world economy, not the Holden propaganda figures) kill your bank account if you had it loaded with people and luggage, albeit not much luggage with the small space. And that poor quality and very dated  VE interior is looking worse evry time they try to make it look better. Power window buttons on the centre console is woeful and the less said about that so called handbrake the better ! Overpriced vehicle with no real identity or purpose&#8230;..</p>
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